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Posted by: skline Dec 30 2004, 10:43 PM

I look at my car from the back and the drivers side wheel is straight up and down, the passenger side is tilted in at the top. Do I add or remove shims to bring it upright?

Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 30 2004, 10:44 PM

add shims for positive camber IIRC

my car has no shims and -2 deg camber IPB Image

Posted by: skline Dec 30 2004, 10:51 PM

Well, mine has 3 in there and it is visibly tilted inward at the top. I am not liking it either. I dont recall it being like that before moving the car around.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 30 2004, 10:56 PM

QUOTE (skline @ Dec 30 2004, 09:51 PM)
Well, mine has 3 in there and it is visibly tilted inward at the top. I am not liking it either. I dont recall it being like that before moving the car around.

bent? i could be wrong....IIRC shims = + camber

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Posted by: Duffster Dec 30 2004, 11:01 PM

I'm not sure that this much application, as that Shalom has pretty good wheel well cut outs, but FWIW I'm running about 4 degrees negative to clear the fatties on the rear of mine. If you wind up with those red thangs on it, you'll want some negative camber... limited of course by how much you feel like grinding off the inner fender wells IPB Image

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 30 2004, 11:33 PM

QUOTE (skline @ Dec 30 2004, 08:51 PM)
Well, mine has 3 in there and it is visibly tilted inward at the top. I am not liking it either. I dont recall it being like that before moving the car around.

that's not gud!

add shims for +, remove for - ...

usually, if you have a lot of shims and still - camber, your trailing arms are bend !!!
ask me how i know ...

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Posted by: skline Dec 31 2004, 12:02 AM

Can they be bending right now? I have the boxed trailing arm stiffeners welded on but I would swear it is getting worse.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 31 2004, 12:05 AM

QUOTE (skline @ Dec 30 2004, 11:02 PM)
Can they be bending right now? I have the boxed trailing arm stiffeners welded on but I would swear it is getting worse.

IPB Image did they warp when you welded on the kit?

how could it be getting worse? check your bushings for wear, check the suspension ear for ovaling

Posted by: skline Dec 31 2004, 12:10 AM

My other concern is my front spoiler, I cant even get my shoe under the front lip of the spoiler. The toes go under but it hits on the instep of my foot. It couldnt be more than 3 inches from the ground to the spoiler. That seems a bit low to me. It looks pretty cool but being fiberglass, it wont last long going in driveways. I need to bring it up to at least 4 or 5 inches. Anybody want to come help me set it up so I can get clearance?

Posted by: jim912928 Dec 31 2004, 11:38 AM

If you think your camber is changing noticeably...I'd check your bushings. If they are the original they might be disintrating in chunks as we speak since they are now being stressed. Maybe they also got too hot/hard/brittle after the welding and they are breaking away?

Posted by: Mueller Dec 31 2004, 11:43 AM

make sure your rear springs are seated correctly, one side might not be in position after raising and lowering the car????

Posted by: ! Dec 31 2004, 12:03 PM

I have extra shims if you need them....the boxed arms are REAL easy to warp unless they were in a jig when welding. I fuched them up on the Rocket....had to do it twice.

As to the front spoiler....."I" used a stiff rubber lip and cut the fiberglass up a bit.....I am always doing a kamikaze on speed bumps, steep driveways and curbs......

BTW...you can get the shims when ya come up for the trailer.....

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 31 2004, 01:44 PM

QUOTE (skline @ Dec 30 2004, 10:02 PM)
I would swear it is getting worse.

double check your suspension console and make sure it's not cracked ...
they start sagging when they crack.

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Posted by: Jeffs9146 Dec 31 2004, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE (skline @ Dec 30 2004, 10:02 PM)
I would swear it is getting worse.

double check your suspension console and make sure it's not cracked ...
they start sagging when they crack.

Andy

Check your suspension ear! It could be ovaled out!

Jeff

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Dec 31 2004, 02:00 PM

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Posted by: Chris Julian Dec 31 2004, 02:04 PM

Scott, double check the large castle nuts. If you recall I had this issue (loose nuts- he he) a while back and it kicked the tire out (or in @ the top) by close to 1/2".

Chris