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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Made me a engine mounting bar
Posted by: URY914 Dec 31 2004, 09:51 AM
The stock cast iron late model bar weighs in at 14 pounds. I made this one from 1" round tubing for the bottom section and 3/4" square tubing from the top section. And I added a 1" angle at the middle where the engine bolts to it.
This weighs 5 pounds!!! I saved 9 pounds!!! ( I'm pretty good at math) 
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Posted by: michel richard Dec 31 2004, 09:55 AM
Looks very good.
How deep is it, i.e. how far down will it hang once it is on the car ?
Michel Richard
Posted by: URY914 Dec 31 2004, 09:59 AM
It will have the same clearance as the stock bar.
Being that this weight is at just about the lowest point on the car it may not have a big effect as it would if you were to take 9 pounds out of the roof. But hey 9 pounds is 9 pounds!
Paul
Posted by: spare time toys Dec 31 2004, 10:05 AM
It may raise the CG a few micro inches. 
So one you get all the pounds off the car will you look at high tech fabrics for the lowest weight driving gear known to man? 
Posted by: Dominic Dec 31 2004, 10:09 AM
Let me know when you start selling those 
I'd be interested.
Posted by: watsonrx13 Dec 31 2004, 10:22 AM
Well done Paul...
Posted by: URY914 Dec 31 2004, 10:29 AM
Maybe I should apply for a patent now.
(fenderliners come to mind )
Posted by: synthesisdv Dec 31 2004, 10:32 AM
That is awesome. 
Always wondered why nobody made one before. That iron crossbar looks like it came off a locomotive.
Posted by: URY914 Dec 31 2004, 10:42 AM
That first pic wasn't too good, heres one outside.
Thanks everyone.
Paul
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Posted by: trekkor Dec 31 2004, 10:59 AM
Thanks for posting that qualty work! 
KT
Posted by: nebreitling Dec 31 2004, 11:01 AM
where do i send my paypal?
seriously, how 'bout a limited run of these things? i'm in.
Posted by: Mueller Dec 31 2004, 11:04 AM
| QUOTE (synthesisdv @ Dec 31 2004, 09:32 AM) |
| That is awesome. Always wondered why nobody made one before. That iron crossbar looks like it came off a locomotive. |
great job !!!!
there is a guy in So-cal that was making them that wanted something like 150 each....
at a Dunkles swapmeet any guy was selling lite weight versions for $10...not sure if he sold any or not, I should have bought one...his "brand name"? weltshiester
Posted by: jandro62 Dec 31 2004, 11:28 AM
about the high tech fabrics - just don't use aircraft fabric. We tried to see if it would could be used instead of bodywork on a formula car - it failed the test when someone through a bolt through the fabric stretched over the frame!
Posted by: Mueller Dec 31 2004, 11:31 AM
| QUOTE (jandro62 @ Dec 31 2004, 10:28 AM) |
| about the high tech fabrics - just don't use aircraft fabric. We tried to see if it would could be used instead of bodywork on a formula car - it failed the test when someone through a bolt through the fabric stretched over the frame! |
ah.....dope and fabric...brings back "memories" of A&P school......LOL
Posted by: 736conver Dec 31 2004, 11:37 AM
Looks good
That looks similar to the engine bar I was making with my buddy. We knew there was a weight savings there so we started to fab some ideas up. I had the idea and he's a professional welder. We're still in testing stages to make sure its durable and race worthy.
Posted by: airsix Dec 31 2004, 12:09 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Dec 31 2004, 09:31 AM) |
| ah.....dope and fabric...brings back "memories" of A&P school......LOL |
I think you mean "memory loss".
You might say people who've never smelled dope on silk are missing something but it would probably be more accurate to say that those of us WHO HAVE are the ones "missing something" (ie. brain cells). If I added up all the bad stuff I've been exposed too (before I grew up and used my brain) I'd qualify as a walking superfund site.-Ben M.
Posted by: spare time toys Dec 31 2004, 12:12 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Dec 31 2004, 12:31 PM) | ||
ah.....dope and fabric...brings back "memories" of A&P school......LOL |
That and some of the home builts I have helped guys here at work with.
Posted by: seanery Dec 31 2004, 12:20 PM
looks great paul 
Posted by: Lawrence Dec 31 2004, 12:45 PM
Paul... Nice job. Very cool. 
Oh, btw... There is a guy on Rennlist looking for an engine mount bar for his EV conversion.
He might be interested in yours!
-Lawrence
Posted by: DJsRepS Dec 31 2004, 01:05 PM
Looks great would that fit side shift and tail shift. There is a difference, It dont look like 9 lbs lighter to me nice workmanship. I figured you were doing a V8 is why you made one.
Posted by: URY914 Dec 31 2004, 01:15 PM
| QUOTE (jandro62 @ Dec 31 2004, 09:28 AM) |
| about the high tech fabrics - just don't use aircraft fabric. We tried to see if it would could be used instead of bodywork on a formula car - it failed the test when someone through a bolt through the fabric stretched over the frame! |
Did the topic change and I missed it? Where did high tech fabrics come from?
Posted by: URY914 Dec 31 2004, 01:19 PM
| QUOTE (nebreitling @ Dec 31 2004, 09:01 AM) |
| where do i send my paypal? seriously, how 'bout a limited run of these things? i'm in. |
I don't have enough time to work on my own car much less make parts for others.
I've done f/g door skins, front turn signal lenses, engine bars and outside door handles.
I better install it and see if its breaks before I start taking orders.
Paul
Posted by: URY914 Dec 31 2004, 01:21 PM
| QUOTE (736conver @ Dec 31 2004, 09:37 AM) |
| Looks good That looks similar to the engine bar I was making with my buddy. We knew there was a weight savings there so we started to fab some ideas up. I had the idea and he's a professional welder. We're still in testing stages to make sure its durable and race worthy. |
I was thinking of filling the area between the upper and lower members with sheet metal and cutting holes for the shift rod and cables but this was easier.
Posted by: URY914 Dec 31 2004, 01:23 PM
| QUOTE (Lawrence @ Dec 31 2004, 10:45 AM) |
| Paul... Nice job. Very cool. Oh, btw... There is a guy on Rennlist looking for an engine mount bar for his EV conversion. He might be interested in yours! -Lawrence |
I now have an early and a late style bars in my collection, I' be happy to unload one.
Posted by: URY914 Dec 31 2004, 01:26 PM
| QUOTE (DJsRepS @ Dec 31 2004, 11:05 AM) |
| It dont look like 9 lbs lighter to me nice workmanship. I figured you were doing a V8 is why you made one. |
Next time I'll post a picture of it on the scale for you.
It's for a TypeIV.
Posted by: cooltimes Dec 31 2004, 02:37 PM
Looks good. I always wondered why the Porsche engineers made the motor mount bar so hefty. Has anyone ever noticed any torque or stress twisting on any of the 914 factory bars?
Also. Good catch Rusty. Bet it would work out nicely for that EV 914 Ben A. is building.
Posted by: rick 918-S Dec 31 2004, 03:51 PM
nice piece man. 
I thought you were going to post a picture of a roll of bailing wire or some nylon rope! Now that would be funny!
Posted by: nein14 Dec 31 2004, 04:33 PM
Great Job!! Iam in for one if you are going to make some up. any thought to one out of aluminum?
Posted by: URY914 Dec 31 2004, 05:46 PM
| QUOTE (nein14 @ Dec 31 2004, 02:33 PM) |
| Great Job!! Iam in for one if you are going to make some up. any thought to one out of aluminum? |
Sure, if I could weld aluminum!
Paul
Posted by: Gint Dec 31 2004, 07:53 PM
Looks great Paul. Nice work.
'Nuther 1000 pounds or so and you'll smoke 'em all!
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