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Posted by: DrifterJay May 27 2003, 08:34 AM

I am a total newb...Just learning im 17 ok..Hey, im curious as to what the possible power output of the original 1.7....(Carbureted and Fuel Injected) Anyone ever tried and built up a monster of these...or is it usually just thrown away for a bigger motor? Cause if I could get at least 110-120hp I would be stoked...but im not sure on that probability..
-Jared

Posted by: Bleyseng May 27 2003, 08:42 AM

Ray Greenwood has a 1.7L that dyno's about 102hp. Its still got the Djet but different a cam (WebCam), and FI mods to tune it.
I am guess you can get about 95-100hp with carbs and a higher lift cam.
Geoff

Posted by: DrifterJay May 27 2003, 09:00 AM

Thanx..do you think its worth it?
Jared

Posted by: Bleyseng May 27 2003, 09:06 AM

Its easier to buy a good used 2.0L and install that plus having a 2.0L in the engine bay makes your car worth more.
It cost the same to rebuild a 1.7l (try and find the domed pistons!) as a 2.0L. The 2.0l heads are the key to the hp/torque increase. Why spend $3k+ to rebuild a 1.7L? Unless you race and are class restricted.

Geoff

Posted by: DrifterJay May 27 2003, 09:15 AM

Well..This is what im doing, I finish High School in two weeks and leave for basic training in 4.. Basically in 6 months im stationed in Barstow California..Hell..(at least I dont have to worry about rust for 4 years..) This car is to be my daily driver. Its a 72 914 with a 1.7 in it now. My starting budget will be around 10 thousand..What do you suggest I do? I want to autocross on the weekends..but the motor needs to last for 40,000 miles hopefully. A lot to swallow..I would like to know what you would do..I want to do one thing at a time. Jared

Posted by: seanery May 27 2003, 09:20 AM

You have 10g's to spend on it now?
There is a 2.0 on ebay right now
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=317&item=2928815226

Put a 19mm m/c on, new brake pads, James Adams' Rennshifter, new tires, 2.0 fuchs, new adjustable shocks and springs, Mueller's roller bearings....That's a good start.

Posted by: DrifterJay May 27 2003, 09:24 AM

I wish..no..When I finish tech school I will have most of the money from basic and tech saved..plus my 3500 bonus..Jared

Posted by: Bleyseng May 27 2003, 09:25 AM

The motors last for 150k unless you don't do the proper maintance. Valve adjustments, oil changes are key.
If you have a 10k budget why not buy a excellent conditon 914. Doesn't cost that much to add stuff to AX a car.
The money adds up when you repair a car. Rust, paint, engine rebuild, brakes, etc...
Geoff

Posted by: anthony May 27 2003, 09:34 AM

Yes, sell your current car. Buy a really nice 2L 914 for around $6K and then you'll have $4K in your pocket for upgrades, repairs, and maintenance.

Posted by: Lawrence914-6 May 27 2003, 09:34 AM

Hi Jared,

I guess you're either headed to Fort Irwin, or the Marine camp out in western California. Have you been to Barstow before?

My suggestion: Wait. If you're really going to have 10k saved by the time you get to California, keep your current 914 running, but don't do serious mods to it. Then, when you get out west, give Brad or Mike Z a call, and they can help line up a very nice, fully optioned, 73/74 2.0 for that kind of cash. And it will be ready for autocross.

-Rusty

Posted by: Qarl May 27 2003, 09:57 AM

Drifter:

Listen to what the others are saying. California is a 914 gold mine. Yes, you may be attached to your current car, but you can find some nice gems in Cali, and not spend all of your money fixing your current car.

Regards,

Karl

Posted by: DrifterJay May 27 2003, 11:35 AM

Thanx for the imput guys...and I also live in Cali...
Jared

Posted by: vw505 May 27 2003, 11:48 AM

ya , i think my next set of orders will be to cali jacksonville florida kind of sucks . its cheep to live here but there nuthing to do . plus i think i could get my 74 on the road faster there than here .

Posted by: vw505 May 27 2003, 11:49 AM

have you looked at a set of 96mm p&c's and a web cam?