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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Hand throttle for carbed cars GB $120 maybe less $99?
Posted by: Mikey914 Feb 1 2014, 08:29 AM
Here's the deal-
I had been buying these from a member in Germany. He has decided to stop making them. I've decided to tool up to make these as he has opted to discontinue.
I have a carbed car and these are basically a choke / and way of setting your throttle to a base RPM as desired on the fly.
Since these have a value I've decided to pick them up. It's a pretty simple set up, the only real cost is the stamping for the lever section. I have a few ideas that may reduce the cost to the $99 area, but I have to see how they work.
I will have these in about 6 weeks, so who's interested? Cost is also a function of how many people want them. If I can do 30 units I will guarantee $99 price point.
So who's in?
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Posted by: somd914 Feb 1 2014, 08:32 AM
I'm interested. Let's see where the price falls.
Posted by: eyesright Feb 1 2014, 09:28 AM
I want one, maybe two, possible three.
Would heater cable levers work? I bet you could scrounge for many of these. Would the labor of clean-up/refurbish be cheaper than new manufacture...?
Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 1 2014, 09:39 AM
One complete and one extra front mount if possible.
Posted by: barefoot Feb 1 2014, 01:36 PM
Here's the deal-
I had been buying these from a member in Germany. He has decided to stop making them. I've decided to tool up to make these as he has opted to discontinue.
I have a carbed car and these are basically a choke / and way of setting your throttle to a base RPM as desired on the fly.
Since these have a value I've decided to pick them up. It's a pretty simple set up, the only real cost is the stamping for the lever section. I have a few ideas that may reduce the cost to the $99 area, but I have to see how they work.
I will have these in about 6 weeks, so who's interested? Cost is also a function of how many people want them. If I can do 30 units I will guarantee $99 price point.
So who's in?
Aren't there lots of similar lever assemblies already around used for throttle or choke control on garden tractors & mowers and such ??
Posted by: Mikey914 Feb 1 2014, 02:09 PM
The lever is the most expensive part. The rest I can make for about $40, I do make the correct black knobs, so the arm assembly is the biggest cost. If anyone can source them for me I could make these for even less. I had thought about looking at other levers, but had to get a better look at what's out there.
But yes, it would save some cash.
Posted by: euro911 Feb 1 2014, 02:28 PM
I went ghetto ...
Actually, this is similar to what I installed in my '67 bus to adjust the dizzy while driving 
Posted by: anderssj Feb 1 2014, 02:55 PM
I'm interested . . . may help for the 48-state tour 
Posted by: JmuRiz Feb 1 2014, 04:33 PM
Question, can they be used with a rennshift?
If so, I'm interested, as I know it'd be awesome to have on my other carb'd car.
Posted by: Harpo Feb 1 2014, 05:55 PM
I also have a aftermarket shifter so I'm interested but concerned about compatibility
Thanks
David
Posted by: jcambo7 Feb 1 2014, 06:04 PM
What would having an aftermarket shifter do with it?
Posted by: ConeDodger Feb 1 2014, 06:30 PM
What would having an aftermarket shifter do with it?
Not a thing, but let's string them along for a while...
Posted by: jcambo7 Feb 1 2014, 06:33 PM
What would having an aftermarket shifter do with it?
Not a thing, but let's string them along for a while...
Oh ok...so I have rennshifter too. Do I have to return to stock to use this?
Posted by: ConeDodger Feb 1 2014, 06:56 PM
What would having an aftermarket shifter do with it?
Not a thing, but let's string them along for a while...
Oh ok...so I have rennshifter too. Do I have to return to stock to use this?
Yes. And send that useless Rennshifter to Original Customs to be used on the DE/TT car.
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Feb 1 2014, 07:09 PM
Are we talkin' a poor mans cruise control?
Posted by: jcambo7 Feb 1 2014, 07:12 PM
Are we talkin' a poor mans cruise control?
Pretty much.
Posted by: jcambo7 Feb 1 2014, 07:12 PM
Stupid iPhone double posted
Posted by: Socalandy Feb 1 2014, 07:17 PM
I'd buy one set
Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 1 2014, 08:23 PM
I'd buy one set
Andy do you not have an OG piece for your 914-6 ??? LMK t will be a bit more but OG
Posted by: KaptKaos Feb 1 2014, 09:35 PM
Let me know the costs, please.
Posted by: Mikey914 Feb 1 2014, 11:52 PM
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=174660&hl=hand
These work with aftermarket shifters with modification, DEC has a picture.
I have already machined the rod and the the plates. The lever is the last piece. This is one of the projects I just needed to wrap up.
Posted by: Racer Chris Feb 2 2014, 08:29 AM
Mark,
We need to talk.
I've been working since the middle of last year to produce an inexpensive hand throttle kit.
Planned release is this spring.
Posted by: brant Feb 2 2014, 08:34 AM
I need one
Posted by: Kansas 914 Feb 2 2014, 11:54 AM
I need one - if for no other reason too warm the beast up so it will idle - stupid carbs.. 
So - YES - I am in for one.
Posted by: Mikey914 Feb 3 2014, 01:02 AM
Kind of nice to be able to set it up enough to warm up. I haven't done much AX but I bet it's nice to not have to have the motor spool all the way up from idle.
Posted by: DEC Feb 3 2014, 07:00 AM
Hi Mark,
Nice to see that you make further with these parts
Posted by: GeorgeRud Feb 3 2014, 12:48 PM
I'd be interested in one for my conversion car.
Posted by: Jonathan Livesay Feb 3 2014, 01:07 PM
One for a 914 and one for a 912.
Posted by: hcdmueller Feb 3 2014, 01:42 PM
I need one.
Posted by: euro911 Feb 3 2014, 01:45 PM
Posted by: ConeDodger Feb 3 2014, 01:52 PM
Love that these are true to the original design. I wouldn't have it any other way on my car.
But now that I am going to a Motronic controlled six, I don't need one. Good luck Mark...
Posted by: FlatIV Feb 3 2014, 02:00 PM
I would like one, please.
Posted by: Mikey914 Feb 3 2014, 02:14 PM
Looks pretty good so far18 units if I count correct looks like $99 is obtainable.
-Mark
Posted by: Kansas 914 Feb 4 2014, 06:12 PM
I wonder how this will install with a center console...
Posted by: bdstone914 Feb 4 2014, 06:44 PM
I wonder how this will install with a center console...
The lever fits in the slot in the front part of the shifter housing. Should not be a problem with a center console.
Bruce
Posted by: PotterPorsche Feb 4 2014, 06:44 PM
Anyone have a picture of what it looks like installed. i'm on the fence
Posted by: Jonathan Livesay Feb 4 2014, 06:56 PM
I wonder how this will install with a center console...
The lever fits in the slot in the front part of the shifter housing. Should not be a problem with a center console.
Bruce
Well that's a problem for the 912, I didn't think that out. That is where the heater control lever goes. Maybe an extension piece to mount it on the tunnel just behind the shifter? Kind of like where the heater control is on a 914?
Posted by: Kansas 914 Feb 4 2014, 07:36 PM
I wonder how this will install with a center console...
The lever fits in the slot in the front part of the shifter housing. Should not be a problem with a center console.
Bruce
Well that's a problem for the 912, I didn't think that out. That is where the heater control lever goes. Maybe an extension piece to mount it on the tunnel just behind the shifter? Kind of like where the heater control is on a 914?
Since I am running headers and have no heat that would be perfect.
Posted by: Brian_Boss Feb 6 2014, 03:49 PM
If the final product is as accurate a reproduction as the one from your German guy, I would definitely take at least one.
FWIW, I wouldn't mind a higher price if that's what it took to make it original looking.
Brian
Posted by: Mikey914 Feb 7 2014, 12:17 AM
If the final product is as accurate a reproduction as the one from your German guy, I would definitely take at least one.
FWIW, I wouldn't mind a higher price if that's what it took to make it original looking.
Brian
understood,
This should look and function like factory, and as you can see other members have made adaptations for their applications.
Posted by: morgan_harwell Feb 10 2014, 07:42 PM
I will buy one set.
Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 5 2014, 01:14 AM
Progress on the 1st batch, just need to finish the rods.
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Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 6 2014, 01:35 AM
Rods should be done the 24th
Posted by: Qarl Mar 6 2014, 07:36 AM
Let me know the costs, please.
If you're still talking orders, I'm in.
Qarl
Posted by: maf914 Mar 6 2014, 10:51 AM
Mark, I am in for one kit. As usual, thanks for offering this group buy.
Posted by: duktail Mar 9 2014, 10:57 PM
Mark, Please count me in for one assembly. Thanks
Posted by: colingreene Mar 9 2014, 11:12 PM
id like one.
Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 9 2014, 11:47 PM
Looks like the rods will be ready a little earlier. I'll keep everyone posted.
-Mark
Posted by: patrick3000 Mar 11 2014, 01:05 AM
Another order, I'll take one and thanks!
Posted by: Qarl Mar 29 2014, 08:31 AM
Another order, I'll take one and thanks!
Bump for 914rubber!
Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 29 2014, 11:10 AM
Just waiting for the rods to come out of plating. Should be this next week.
-MArk
Posted by: scrz914 Mar 29 2014, 06:11 PM
One order for me if there are any left.
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Mar 29 2014, 07:28 PM
I'll take one. I don't need it for warm up but a semi cruise control sounds great.
Posted by: brant Apr 16 2014, 08:18 AM
Mark. Any updates?
Posted by: David Stowers Apr 16 2014, 09:57 AM
I'd like to have one of these if I'm not too late please
Posted by: eric9144 Apr 16 2014, 01:58 PM
FWIW I have one of these from Mark (914rubber)--it's very 'true' to the original and you will not be disappointed!
Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 16 2014, 03:06 PM
Have a few parts still in finishing for the 1st batch, the rest will be about 2 Weeks behind. 1st group is 12-13 units.
Posted by: morgan_harwell Apr 24 2014, 07:39 AM
I'm looking forward to receiving one of these hand throttle sets.
I think about it every morning I fire up my 914 and then place a wood block (a very high precision tool) between the brake and throttle pedals to hold the engine at a high enough RPM to keep it from stalling. The CIS engine always starts instantly (neet, neet, VROOOM!), but will not idle until it warms up a bit. After about 2 minutes, I remove the very finely crafted wood block, put it back into the driver's door pocket (don't want it tumbling about on the floor while driving (ask me how I know)) and procede out of the garage and on my way.
edit 1/26/2015:
I installed one of these hand throttles this past weekend. Install went smoothly.
My 2.4L CIS engine is an early one out of a 1973 911T, which was not equipped with an Auxillary Air Regulator the later CIS injected 911s got. If I remember correctly, 1973 911s also came with hand throttles.
To start the cold CIS engine now: depress throttle pedal slightly, pull back new hand throttle lever, release throttle pedal, turn ignition key and "neet neet VROOOM!", and the cold engine now idles by itself without stalling . I have since retired the very finely crafted wood block into the wood stove.
Posted by: malcolm2 Apr 24 2014, 07:55 AM
Are we talkin' a poor mans cruise control?
I remembered seeing a picture of what might have been a very early car, maybe a 6, and it had the black lever.....
I wondered what that was.For the Fuel Injection Folks, can someone post some pictures?
Is that really what it is for, Cruise Control. Seems a bit dangerous, doesn't it?
EDIT: Post 58 cleared that up a bit. So they could be used on FI cars. I was envisioning the rod going to the carb, but it goes to the gas pedal.....
Posted by: Qarl Apr 24 2014, 07:57 AM
No it's a throttle control for warming the carbs up at startup. Connects to the accelerator linkage and by pulling the black handle just sets a tiny bit of throttle to raise RPMs during warm up.
I would definitely NOT use this during driving. Very unsafe.
Posted by: JmuRiz Apr 24 2014, 08:42 AM
I know, I shouldn't have brought up the joke
I'd LOVE to have one on my 356...it's rather finicky until it warms up.
I'm excited to buy one for my 914 when they are ready.
Posted by: Mike D. Apr 24 2014, 04:21 PM
I would like one.
Is that 30 yet?!?
Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 25 2014, 10:11 AM
Yes we are there.
I have a group of 30 coming out and another 40 underway. I just have not had enough time with changes at the day job. I will however be making a big announcement in the next 3-4 weeks.
-Mark
Posted by: JmuRiz Apr 25 2014, 11:28 AM
Hopefully it's good news for you...
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 25 2014, 11:54 AM
No it's a throttle control for warming the carbs up at startup. Connects to the accelerator linkage and by pulling the black handle just sets a tiny bit of throttle to raise RPMs during warm up.
I would definitely NOT use this during driving. Very unsafe.
It's as safe as you want to make it. Using it as cruise control on a high speed crowded freeway? Unsafe. Using it as cruise control in the middle of the desert on interstate 40? No problem.
Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 25 2014, 01:27 PM
Just thinking Perhaps this should be sold with a disclaimer. Not intended for automotive use. It's a replica of an old part for ornamental purposes only. DO NOT INSTALL ON YOUR CAR as we will not be liable for your misuse of our product.
In this day with those type of questions being asked. It's best to state it's not intended for installation on your vehicle.
If you do so we will not be liable for your intentional misuse of our product.
Posted by: euro911 Apr 25 2014, 05:10 PM
All the custom motorcycle components we used to manufacture were sold with a liability disclaimer "For Show Use Only, Not For Street Use" ... 
Posted by: David Stowers May 10 2014, 01:04 PM
Any news on availability?
Posted by: Mikey914 May 30 2014, 11:20 PM
Got the majority of the parts back from finishing. Minor hickup, somehow thet got finished in silver, I may take some back and release the 1st group 10 pcs in silver.
Did get all the parts cut this week, punching forming and welding next week.
As promised a few pics
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Posted by: GeorgeRud Jun 24 2014, 04:11 PM
Any updates?
Posted by: jmill Jun 24 2014, 04:32 PM
I'm in. If I'm too late for the first batch I'll wait for the second.
Posted by: jim_hoyland Jun 24 2014, 07:49 PM
Mark,
Add me for 1. Looks like an interesting project. Will my Rennshift require modification to make the correct fit ?
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 25 2014, 11:32 PM
Got All of these back from plating and chroming, will be assembling next week!!!!!!!
Finally
Posted by: jim_hoyland Jun 26 2014, 04:44 PM
I wonder how this will install with a center console...
The lever fits in the slot in the front part of the shifter housing. Should not be a problem with a center console.
Bruce
Would that mean a Rennshifter would have to be modified to accomodate the lever ?
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 27 2014, 03:16 PM
I believe so. There was some input on the last GB thread for the ones that came from Germany.
We will be PMing everyone this next week as these are being assembled now. Should be Wednesday as I'm on the road til Tue afternoon.
Thx
Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 3 2014, 11:26 PM
Of course these took longer that I'd like them to, but we are finally assembling these and will be ready to ship this next week.
Here's what I did today.
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Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 3 2014, 11:27 PM
We actually had the levers chrome plated, so they will hold up nicely.
Posted by: X911IC Jul 3 2014, 11:44 PM
Mark, I would like one if available, Thanks Neil
Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 4 2014, 06:31 PM
Mark,
Will this work on a rH drive ?
Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 6 2014, 08:56 AM
Mark,
Will this work on a rH drive ?
The rod, hanger, and joint would be the same. The base that holds the armature may need some modification. I could probably make one custom as I made the bases. You need a right?
-Mark
Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 6 2014, 10:31 AM
Mark,
Will this work on a rH drive ?
The rod, hanger, and joint would be the same. The base that holds the armature may need some modification. I could probably make one custom as I made the bases. You need a right?
-Mark
I am asking in behalf of a friend; will let you know later. As it is, I have an order submitted for a regular LH drive car ( mine)
BTW: nice work making these. A lot of attempts went down before you came through.
Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 7 2014, 01:31 AM
Yes, it took awhile. There was a lot of cutting, forming, punching, turning, threading, plating and assembly. But finally got them done!
Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 14 2014, 08:25 PM
Got my kit today; need instructions... nice work, all the parts appear in good order.
Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 14 2014, 09:03 PM
DEC did a nice write up.
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Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 14 2014, 09:42 PM
Nice pics,; would like to see a little more. Perhaps someone can explain what they did and the problems that arise. I still have to figure out how to cut that slot in the base of my Rennshifter.....
Posted by: JmuRiz Jul 15 2014, 11:44 AM
Just ordered mine...I wish installing this stuff was as easy as ordering
Maybe one of these years I'll get around to installing...
It should be great, like a motorcycle choke...wish the 356 had one.
Posted by: PancakePorsche Jul 17 2014, 11:41 PM
Here's the deal-
I had been buying these from a member in Germany. He has decided to stop making them. I've decided to tool up to make these as he has opted to discontinue.
I have a carbed car and these are basically a choke / and way of setting your throttle to a base RPM as desired on the fly.
Since these have a value I've decided to pick them up. It's a pretty simple set up, the only real cost is the stamping for the lever section. I have a few ideas that may reduce the cost to the $99 area, but I have to see how they work.
I will have these in about 6 weeks, so who's interested? Cost is also a function of how many people want them. If I can do 30 units I will guarantee $99 price point.
So who's in?
I would like one of these if still available. Please advise. Thank you
Posted by: Kansas 914 Jul 18 2014, 07:31 AM
I have a Weltmeister short shift kit that has a plate under the base of the shifter. It raises the shifter about 1/2". I wondered if I will have clearance issues with the rod to the pedal?
Posted by: jim_hoyland Jul 18 2014, 07:42 AM
I have a Weltmeister short shift kit that has a plate under the base of the shifter. It raises the shifter about 1/2". I wondered if I will have clearance issues with the rod to the pedal?
Doesn't the throttle lever assembly attach directly to the body and the plate goes over it. Looks like you'll need a slot cut into the plate for the lever to move ?
Posted by: Kansas 914 Jul 18 2014, 07:58 AM
Doesn't the throttle lever assembly attach directly to the body and the plate goes over it. Looks like you'll need a slot cut into the plate for the lever to move ?
Hi Jim,
I think you are exactly right.
Posted by: euro911 Jul 18 2014, 08:21 PM
Do you still have a stock shifter in your possession, Jim?
Measure off of the bolt holes in the OEM to see where you'll need to slice the Renn ...
Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 19 2014, 11:00 AM
Here's the deal-
I had been buying these from a member in Germany. He has decided to stop making them. I've decided to tool up to make these as he has opted to discontinue.
I have a carbed car and these are basically a choke / and way of setting your throttle to a base RPM as desired on the fly.
Since these have a value I've decided to pick them up. It's a pretty simple set up, the only real cost is the stamping for the lever section. I have a few ideas that may reduce the cost to the $99 area, but I have to see how they work.
I will have these in about 6 weeks, so who's interested? Cost is also a function of how many people want them. If I can do 30 units I will guarantee $99 price point.
So who's in?
I would like one of these if still available. Please advise. Thank you
Still available, and I plan to continue to stock them, but end of the month the GB us over, I'm actually selling a little below cost, so the new price will be $160 after. Get them while you can save a few bucks.
Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 17 2014, 11:26 AM
Pics added
Listed 3 "extras" in the classified but thought I should add to thread too.
2 still available at GB price
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Posted by: colingreene Dec 17 2014, 02:39 PM
Can I get one? I need it very badly.
Posted by: alruff@comcast.net Apr 6 2015, 03:45 PM
I'm a little late, but if they are still available I would like 2.
I have 2 914 race cars that need throttle warm-up help.
Alan
Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 6 2015, 11:20 PM
Yep in stock and on the website here-
http://shop.914rubber.com/914-6-hand-throttle-replica-for-carbed-cars-or-AX-914HT.htm?categoryId=-1
Posted by: wes Apr 7 2015, 05:28 PM
I got mine today (thanks Mark) and thought I saw something on the installation with the console though can't find it now. Has anyone done it with a stock console?
Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 7 2015, 05:46 PM
It requires some modification. I intend to do mine in a few weeks.
Mark
Posted by: wes Apr 7 2015, 05:58 PM
Is the mod on the parts I bought or the console? I was thinking that someone mounted it on the side of the console somehow or?
Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 7 2015, 06:02 PM
You can easily modify the board on the bottom, it just takes a little time and patience.
Posted by: wes Apr 7 2015, 07:25 PM
Are you thinking cut through the board just ahead of the shift boot and screw the L shaped bracket to the bottom of the board, as that was my first thought by making a metal plate for the lever to slid through and bolt up to.
Posted by: Mikey914 Apr 7 2015, 08:02 PM
I need to remove the center consoul and install the hand throttle. Cut a clean ski in the carpet. See where it interacts with the board. Drill 1/4 holes where the slit will start and stop, and probably take a dremmel toot to connect the dots making my slot. I would like to make a finished "trim ring" to make the edges nice. I'm thinking ill modify a section of engine deck lid welting seal to do so.
Posted by: Kansas 914 Apr 7 2015, 08:07 PM
You can easily modify the board on the bottom, it just takes a little time and patience.
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Posted by: wes Apr 7 2015, 08:43 PM
I like it, so it still is attached as without the console!
Posted by: Racer Chris Apr 7 2015, 10:02 PM
You can easily modify the board on the bottom, it just takes a little time and patience.
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