Rant on.
i'm personally get very tired of the bad advice given by some folks here who obviously have no idea what they are talking about, and probably don't own a 914 or have never even seen one, much less driven one. You know who you are! I will not name names. Newbies, do a search before you post your questions, and take into consideration that not everyone here is a "guru", including me. I state only facts that I believe are true, recheck my facts before I do a final post, and delete the ones I think might be questionable or make me look like a complete dumbass! I give advice on the stuff I know to be fact, and request knowledge of things I don't know about from those I respect. Other than that, I try to keep my mouth shut and talk about Fat Tire, but you guys have tripped my trigger!!!!!!!!
Bullshit artist beware! I'm gonna bust your balls every chance I get!!!! No Mercy!
Rant off
Ive never driven my 914 , am I a noob?
Boy, that's . . . um. . . . . . great Curt.
hmmmmmmmmm.
WTF R U talking'bout, Willis?
QUOTE (Air_Cooled_Nut @ Jan 4 2005, 06:54 PM) |
WTF R U talking'bout, Willis? |
Name names and specifics, otherwise your rant means nothing.
If you guys don't know what I'm talking about, then I ain't talking to you.
Matt, you'll drive it one day. Just keep at it. You a noob? Naaa!
Ohhhh, muck.
Sorry, I must have logged onto my ricer board by mistake.
I'm not gonna name names. They know who they are!!!
I apologize for anything slits may have said.
QUOTE (vsg914 @ Jan 4 2005, 07:03 PM) |
Matt, you'll drive it one day. Just keep at it. You a noob? Naaa! |
Damn, I hope it wasn't me
if you are not man enough to name names then send them an email in private with your complaints. there is no use making this public statement to people you aren't going to clue in.
QUOTE (vsg914 @ Jan 4 2005, 09:06 PM) |
I'm not gonna name names. They know who they are!!! |
Ive got some advice
Beat the dog
kick the wife
Start drinking heavily,
Start doing blow and heroin
Start smoking
Its all bad advice, there I admit it LOL
yikes working the nigh-shift does things to ones senses
QUOTE (URY914 @ Jan 4 2005, 07:22 PM) |
Damn, I hope it wasn't me |
I'll bet the variation on the wieght of Fuchs had something to do with it. I remember someone was peeved off by an answer about that. I'm just glad my advice is always 100% accurate!
I hope it wasn't me. I only talk or answer what I have experienced. Sorry if it was me. Thanks Mark
This "problem" is as old as the Internet itself, and has gotten much worse since 1988, when I first started to waste time on it. The barrier to simply saying what's on your mind, or parroting garbage, is simply too low. The solution now is the same as it was then, if someone is wrong, correct them. Explain why they're wrong. Cite references if you can.
There is nothing more irritating to me than someone shouting "You're wrong!" at me w/o saying what's wrong and offering the right answer. We all learn if someone else publicly corrects a mistake (which can be done politely). Of course, the "right" answer is often wrong in itself, which can start a lively discussion (ahem), which is what this forum and others like it are all about.
QUOTE (drew365 @ Jan 4 2005, 07:37 PM) |
I'll bet the variation on the wieght of Fuchs had something to do with it. I remember someone was peeved off by an answer about that. I'm just glad my advice is always 100% accurate! |
Oh, and you misspelled "weight"...
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I only talk or answer what I have experienced. |
um,,,,,,,,,,,,,need a midol?
that time of the month?
take a shot of scotch,,
point made. i've read some stupid advice lately.{chopsticks}
but,,,,,um take a valium.
see you in the morrow!
BRIAN
What if we do this: when the admins send the new members their password, the message should warn them that if the newbies give advice later determined to be wrong by any member, then the closest member will go to their house and kick their ass.
That should fix things. The last thing we need here is folks feeling free to participate in the discussions without a fully researched and verified opinion.
WTF?
Oh shit, I'm busted, sorry guys, I am the newbie with no clue. I appologize and will remain silent from now on.
QUOTE (lapuwali @ Jan 4 2005, 07:52 PM) |
Oh, and you misspelled "weight"... |
reread my first post. It was a warning to the new guys not to believe everything they read here.
Like I said, they know who they are and I will not name names!!.
This is not about an indiviual or a group. It's about those who post without thinking about the consequences of what they post. I would die inside if I posted something that caused someone to fuck up their car.
Don't believe everything you read.
There's bad advice in "real life" too. I think most people are pretty good at separating out the BS.
I thought it was a good idea...help spread confusion...make BIG mistakes....like me! And don't blame Howard for the confusion about the track fees at the WCC 2005, he has a lot on his plate.....
Jeewiz
Hi Jim!
Jesus. Lighten up Francis..........
Speaking as a noob , I haven't seen anything suggested that
would cause me or more importantly my cars harm.
I hate to bring up my marital "debates", but similar to these experiences
on communicating, without any details you are
just misfiring. Is there any make up sex equivalent on this
BBS??? (only real reason for arguing).
If not ....then what is the purpose of calling out a mystical
evil presence? (member 666)
I've seen your post on OU getting jobbed by SC, and they are filled
with humility, very big on your part.
Keep form, sack up, and provide an example, at least.
Cheers, Newbie Californian and SC football fan.
(quoting a infamous SCalifornian " can't we all just get along?")
QUOTE (vsg914 @ Jan 4 2005, 08:19 PM) |
reread my first post. It was a warning to the new guys not to believe everything they read here. Like I said, they know who they are and I will not name names!!. This is not about an indiviual or a group. It's about those who post without thinking about the consequences of what they post. I would die inside if I posted something that caused someone to fuck up their car. |
Damn it Capt'n... What'd ya say this time?
(Go Utes)
So how about just posting the noob's initials??? Doesn't have to get too personal.
Give us a hint. Does it start with a D & end with an R???
I knew I shouldn't have said anything about converting to a SIX.
Seriously, near everything you hear today, no matter where you go, is "bad advice".
You really have to be careful before you do anything that might have unfortunate consequences.
KT
ok...im gone.... ive made 5000 bad advice posts.....
gawd.... do i gotta walk the plank? JK...i speak only about what i have done, and speculate on otheres
im betting this is over the chopstick thread
Don't make me angry...You won't like me when I'm angry.
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When I said to douse the car in gasoline and throw Molotov Cocktails at it, I wasn't being serious...
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"Who's the bigger fool, the fool or the fool who follows him?" |
QUOTE (914Timo @ Jan 4 2005, 11:55 PM) | ||
James, I like your comments. This one and earlier. Have you really start to "mess" with internet at 1988?? |
QUOTE (lapuwali @ Jan 5 2005, 12:05 AM) |
As for the quote, who said that originally? It's from a very well known movie. |
So prestone isn't the best antifreeze for a 914?
what did I say
WOW.... and I thought I needed laid
I apologize for advising Slits to make fun of Aaron.... I never thought it would go that far
This kind of reminds me of what I told the wife when we first started going out and have told her several times since.
"I'm too fuching stupid to get hints and I'm not a mind reader. If you've got something to say...say it. No point to getting bent out of shape, when I don't even know that something is pissing you off."
My wife doesn't play stupid mind games and it's the reason we have a good marriage.
That said I hope it wasn't me....
Damn Mark that's good advice so, it can't be you. I'm gonna try that line on my wife.
Dave
FAT TIAR is caca
.......b
I'm a newbie and I only look at pictures
QUOTE (aircooledboy @ Jan 4 2005, 08:00 PM) |
What if we do this: when the admins send the new members their password, the message should warn them that if the newbies give advice later determined to be wrong by any member, then the closest member will go to their house and kick their ass. That should fix things. The last thing we need here is folks feeling free to participate in the discussions without a fully researched and verified opinion. WTF? |
Print across the top of each screen.....
ADVICE and OPINIONS are like ASSHOLES.....everyone has one and we have them all here....
"Never met a white man more in need of a blowjob........"
Identify the movie and character......win a date with A-aron Admin at the In & Out.............
good morning vietnam - robin williams
c'mer aaron...
Good Morning Vietnam. Was i first? Was i first?
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Identify the movie and character |
close, you can have aaron though, i'm done...
okokok so i don't get the date, can't recall the dude's name.
gotta get back to the bad advice section of the board anyway.
Some of this Aaron shit is getting old.
Unless he is gay and likes it, this crap is hurtful and stuff you expect from childish highschool punks.
I thought most of us were more mature. Guess I was wrong.
I think Aaron can take the verbal abuse. I'm not sure Corona can...
Jen
QUOTE (Mark Henry @ Jan 5 2005, 09:48 AM) |
Some of this Aaron shit is getting old. Unless he is gay and likes it, this crap is hurtful and stuff you expect from childish highschool punks. I thought most of us were more mature. Guess I was wrong. |
QUOTE (Jeff Bonanno @ Jan 5 2005, 08:45 AM) |
okokok so i don't get the date, can't recall the dude's name. |
Yep...I don't know the whole deal...but a garage banter is one thing...this is an open forum.
You can call me an asshole once and it's funny...Many times and then other people start calling me asshole...well lets just say I could go postal.
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Adrian Kronauer. (sp? Something like that.) |
QUOTE (Jenny @ Jan 5 2005, 08:51 AM) |
I think Aaron can take the verbal abuse. I'm not sure Corona can... Jen |
I thought everyone acknowledged that this place is like a hang out, a garage, where everyone is sitting around talking. Most friends will bash on each other for something stupid, like on Aaron because he is gay. Notice I said we bash on Aaron, not bust on him... That's saved for Slits.
If you can't take the shit, hang out with the guys that don't throw it, like on the Bird Board, or buy a 911 and join the little pee pee club. The whole reason I like this place is because it is laid back. You can screw around, no one gets mad.
Okay, and name the movie with this quote originally....
Cry me a river, build me a bridge, and get the fuck over it.
No, I don't know, so let's all agree on an answer, I don't want anyone getting upset because it is the wrong answer.
QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 5 2005, 09:22 AM) |
We don't think Aaron is really gay (not that there's anything wrong with that). |
QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 5 2005, 09:22 AM) |
http://www.ci.corona.ca.us/media/wmv.cfm |
Thank you Mark for understanding, but you put it in an open forum, so you were answered in an open forum.
Now back to the subject at hand...........
Each of us has a different experience level and responds to questions based on that level. Most of us have enough common sense to know when advice is "bad".....use that common sense and follow your gut feeling.
If this whole thread is about the "chopsticks" thingy....then the answer about just running the engine has some validity even though I have not personally experienced it. Since combustion temperature is around 1400 - 1600 degrees F, a cocktail stirrer nor chopstick would survive very long. A worst case scenerio would be a hardened depost in the combustion chamber and the phosgene gas emitted as the "plastic" burns.
In turning an engine over, the plastic would be broken into small pieces that should pass out of the combustion chamber, with the worst case scenerio being a piece stuck between the valve and the seat. This could result in the piston hitting the valve, but at the low revolutions, it would serve to bust the plastic rather than bend the valve or crack the piston.
I would, personally, fish it out or disassemble the engine.........
I'm done.......................
QUOTE (mikez @ Jan 5 2005, 09:27 AM) | ||
But he is the "Master of His Domain".... |
Hmmmmm, doan know if I should be offended or not....
If I don't like you, I would like to reserve the right to advise you to start your engine whilst containing chop sticks.
I can play chopsticks does that count as bad advise
You get what you pay for, and free advice is just that.
While I don't totally disagree with you Curt, it is an open forum, so bad advice is just a freely given as good, and unfortunately the bad advice has the same right to be posted as good.
It falls upon the solicitor of any technical advice to consider the source, and the basis for whatever opinion is given. If you take bad advice and lunch your engine, it's your own fault.
We've all done dumb stuff with wrenches in our hand (or nearby). It's what you do after you make a dumb mistake. Ok, you stepped in it, do you clean it up or smear it around everywhere??
If this thread is in reference to what we can all now call "The Chopstick Incident", I recieved a PM more or less blasting me for posting my opinion, regardless of my own technical experience. Good for him! I'm a grown up and I can stand behind my opinions just as much as someone can feel justified helping someone ruin an engine.
This is just my opinion though, and I've been wrong before. Go ahead fire that puppy up and see what happens
QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 5 2005, 09:22 AM) |
http://www.ci.corona.ca.us/media/wmv.cfm |
Ok... for the record. I AM NOT GAY.
Slits came up with this when i was ragging on him.....
Heh...it does get old but never goes away...thanks for looking out for me though
funny thing is....people ive never met throw it out there too
we (the socal group) throw insults back and forth all in jest. ask howard how many dinosaur jokes i threw at him and slits while at howards place.
if you know me...i dont care about the insults , if you dont....meet me first before joining the bandwagon
How do you people expect me to build my evil empire if no one is going to listen to my advise?
We should have two hats made up so we know where people stand:
Hat one-Chopsticks with the classic red circle and red slanted line through the chopsticks, denoting 'NO CHOPSTICKS'
Hat two-A pair of chopsticks holding a T-IV engine, denoting 'LUNCH YOUR ENGINE'
What do you think?
Yummy. Pass the soy sauce:
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QUOTE (jimtab @ Jan 4 2005, 08:34 PM) |
And don't blame Howard for the confusion about the track fees at the WCC 2005, he has a lot on his plate..... |
I think every day there is a little bit more whining and complaining taking place on this BBS. And every day there is a little bit more push to be more politically correct and nice, etc. Remember the good old days when this place was run by an Asshole and it was "anything goes"? I think there was a lot more technical content back then too.
(Yes that was whining.)
GO WORK ON YOUR CARS, PEOPLE! Do something productive.
QUOTE (jkeyzer @ Jan 5 2005, 10:20 AM) |
GO WORK ON YOUR CARS, PEOPLE! Do something productive. |
QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Jan 5 2005, 10:10 AM) |
we (the socal group) throw insults back and forth all in jest. |
The strange thing is the "Chopstick Incident" guy has never re-posted to that thread.
So the conundrum has added a mystery to the story! Add some sex (straight) and we can send the script to Hollywood. It is possible that sex has already entered the story line, as the guy may have F'd his engine.
QUOTE (914RS @ Jan 5 2005, 11:12 AM) |
We should have two hats made up so we know where people stand: Hat one-Chopsticks with the classic red circle and red slanted line through the chopsticks, denoting 'NO CHOPSTICKS' Hat two-A pair of chopsticks holding a T-IV engine, denoting 'LUNCH YOUR ENGINE' What do you think? Yummy. Pass the soy sauce: |
WOW the things I miss when not on this site.
Great reading here.
Hope this doesn't make someone hesitate before posting an answer to somones question that might be perfectly valid but the would be poster second guesses him/her self becuase of this thread.
I think that when posting a question/problem you need to give time for replies so you can see what different people come up with and make up your own mind as to what you will do.
Please don't come to my house and kick my butt, I was only trying to help.
Damn, now I'm getting bashed with avatars....Is there no mercy?......guess I'll have to move to Canada to get away from all this
And to all the Slo-Cals (including Santa Barbara) with my greatest regards
If we ignored you...you'd be pissed too....so STFU.....
QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Jan 5 2005, 02:10 PM) |
Heh...it does get old but never goes away...thanks for looking out for me though funny thing is....people ive never met throw it out there too :wacko: we (the socal group) throw insults back and forth all in jest. ask howard how many dinosaur jokes i threw at him and slits while at howards place. :) if you know me...i dont care about the insults ;) , if you dont....meet me first before joining the bandwagon :) |
QUOTE (SLITS @ Jan 5 2005, 11:23 AM) |
And to all the Slo-Cals (including Santa Barbara) with my greatest regards |
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Slits came up with this when i was ragging in him |
QUOTE (Eric_Shea @ Jan 5 2005, 01:23 PM) | ||
Maybe it was due to the fact that you were "in" him? |
yeah, yeah. Just come out and admit it... we'll still like ya. Hell, we put up with Slits
OK, I confess.......
I told a guy to use condoms with a hole in the end....
I apologize to all of you that were infected....
Twystd1
QUOTE (9146986 @ Jan 5 2005, 11:25 AM) |
The strange thing is the "Chopstick Incident" guy has never re-posted to that thread. So the conundrum has added a mystery to the story! Add some sex (straight) and we can send the script to Hollywood. It is possible that sex has already entered the story line, as the guy may have F'd his engine. |
anyway...
i talked to john (opera guy) to see if he had fixed the problem. he has been busy and hasnt had time to fix it
QUOTE (Twystd1 @ Jan 5 2005, 12:35 PM) |
OK, I confess....... I told a guy to use condoms with a hole in the end.... I apologize to all of you that were infected.... Twystd1 |
Ten years ago that was a top Secret, you had to know someone, other than Mike Z photo.
At least thats What I was told then...
Dunno....I miss Hugo's humor....he made me look nermul....
QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 5 2005, 02:08 PM) |
Hey, I think I see the chopstick! |
QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Jan 5 2005, 10:23 AM) |
Sorry, I am at work right now. Can't do anything productive. |
QUOTE (jwalters @ Jan 5 2005, 03:29 PM) |
Damn Howard--that is some kind of good looking daughter you got there-- |
QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 5 2005, 02:08 PM) |
Hey, I think I see the chopstick! |
QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 5 2005, 04:59 PM) | ||
don't think you quite have the hang of this insult thing. i'm fair game, my family is not... |
always welcome here ron, she actually likes you
.....but what about the hats?
QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 5 2005, 05:58 PM) |
always welcome here ron, she actually likes you :D |
Anyone figure out what this was all about? If it was the chopsticks gimme a friggin break.
When you read something on the internet it isn't like a mandate from God/Buddha/Allah/
Advice on this board should be taken just like advice from a talk show. Consider all of your options carefully then beat the $hit out of something with a chair!!
"Why can't we all just get along?!"
My best,
Mike D.
My friend nikki's response to bad advice:
"Oh boohoo, my pussy hurts!"
QUOTE (Brando @ Jan 5 2005, 06:43 PM) |
My friend nikki's response to bad advice: "Oh boohoo, my pussy hurts!" |
QUOTE (Sparky @ Jan 5 2005, 06:20 PM) |
Anyone figure out what this was all about? If it was the chopsticks gimme a friggin break. When you read something on the internet it isn't like a mandate from God/Buddha/Allah/<insert diety of choice>. Unless of course text magically starts appearing on your screen. Advice on this board should be taken just like advice from a talk show. Consider all of your options carefully then beat the $hit out of something with a chair!! "Why can't we all just get along?!" My best, Mike D. |
QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 5 2005, 03:59 PM) | ||
don't think you quite have the hang of this insult thing. i'm fair game, my family is not... |
QUOTE (Brando @ Jan 5 2005, 06:43 PM) |
My friend nikki's response to bad advice: "Oh boohoo, my pussy hurts!" |
QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 5 2005, 05:58 PM) |
always welcome here ron, she actually likes you |
OT (on topic) As far as "Bad Advice" I read much more then I post. I have some real life history with the 914. I know many of the club members did not own 914s in the 70's as I did. I am a fan from the beginning. While reading here almost nightly, I will come across a post that I now the answer to the confusion. BUT, one of the knowledgeable club members seems to beet me to it, and post the correct reply. There are a number of very active and knowledgeable members who always participate.
I would not be concerned with bad advise here, the members I am speaking about, and you know who you are, really keep the quality of this site valid. Thanks to them the 914Club places on top for information on my favorite automobile.
With all the links and advice from club members to information, repair and history, the posts after word really drills down the topic to great recommendations.
So, if you research deep into a topic here, in my op-ion you will receive the right advice.
I need to go back to reading so I can try to fine a post that you guys haven't correctly answered yet.
This is addicting, but.......... I love it!
QUOTE (jwalters @ Jan 5 2005, 09:13 PM) |
Oh man no--no insult--that was a compliment---come on guy--sorry ifn I offended you--I was poking fun at the picture you posted.. |
QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 5 2005, 06:58 PM) |
always welcome here ron, she actually likes you |
QUOTE (SLITS @ Jan 6 2005, 10:29 AM) | ||
sigh.................... |
Damn Howard, if I didn't know you so well I would believe...................................
Holy moley!
QUOTE (Howard @ Jan 6 2005, 11:43 AM) | ||||
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yowza! Is she with you Howard?
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