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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Tucson (southern AZ) work party?

Posted by: porkchopexpress Mar 3 2014, 12:27 PM

Saturday March 15th, my best friend (timothy_nd28: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=8154) is coming out to Tucson to help me get my 72 1.7l 914 project up and running. He will be in town for about 5 days and here is our agenda:
1. Install L-Jet FI
2. Install new windshield
3. Install a new carpet kit
4. Install stainless steel fuel lines
5. A few other miscellaneous updates.

Our goal is to get the car finally running after rescuing it from a local scrapyard in 2012.
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Wondering if we might find some Tucson (and/or southern AZ) World members who would be interested in coming over to lend a hand, some experience, and camaraderie.

Plenty of food and beer would be provided. And to top it off, Tim has offered to bring and personally install his LED gauge back-lighting kits for the first few who show up.

Please PM me if interested!
Cheers!
JP

Posted by: 914GT Mar 3 2014, 01:30 PM

I'd be interested but I'm having knee surgery next week, so don't know how well I'll be able to walk around or driviing by the weekend. What area of town will you be at? I am on the far east side. If you are nearby you are welcome to come by and see the full ground-up rotisserie 73 build I have been working on. It is almost finished.

Posted by: AZ914 Mar 3 2014, 02:53 PM

I'll come help if Tim can put LEDs in my gauges.. just kidding (kind of wink.gif ). I could probably come by on the weekend and lend a hand, not that I'm worth a shit, lol! Keep me updated on when and where.

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Mar 3 2014, 04:16 PM

QUOTE(AZ914 @ Mar 3 2014, 12:53 PM) *

I'll come help if Tim can put LEDs in my gauges.. just kidding (kind of wink.gif ). I could probably come by on the weekend and lend a hand, not that I'm worth a shit, lol! Keep me updated on when and where.



JP isn't either, but I'm sure we can manage! biggrin.gif

Posted by: porkchopexpress Mar 3 2014, 04:43 PM

QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Mar 3 2014, 03:16 PM) *

QUOTE(AZ914 @ Mar 3 2014, 12:53 PM) *

I'll come help if Tim can put LEDs in my gauges.. just kidding (kind of wink.gif ). I could probably come by on the weekend and lend a hand, not that I'm worth a shit, lol! Keep me updated on when and where.



JP isn't either, but I'm sure we can manage! biggrin.gif



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Talky talky talky, no more talky from you Tim!

Posted by: Mike Sanford Mar 3 2014, 08:36 PM

Planning on coming by, haven't seen another 914 this year.

Posted by: porkchopexpress Mar 3 2014, 10:44 PM

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Planning on coming by, haven't seen another 914 this year.



Thanks Mike, I look forward to meeting you. I will send you a PM with my contact information.

Posted by: 3d914 Mar 7 2014, 11:19 AM

JP, I'd be glad to lend a hand. Out of town at the moment, so need to check my work load before finalizing.

Shoot me the details.

Posted by: chads74 Mar 7 2014, 01:09 PM

Dang, where were all the Tucson people hiding when I was living there??? I bought my car in Phoenix and did my conversion while I was stationed there at Davis-Mothan AFB. Actually wish I was still there!

Posted by: porkchopexpress Mar 7 2014, 02:49 PM

Thanks Gerard! I will send you a PM with details.

Sorry to miss you Chad. If you ever make it back here to live or just visit, drop a line!

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Mar 9 2014, 05:29 PM

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Posted by: ThePaintedMan Mar 10 2014, 07:55 AM

Wish I could be there to help guys. However, I'll happily work/drink beers along side you vicariously when the work day comes smile.gif

Posted by: porkchopexpress Mar 10 2014, 10:55 AM

Thanks George. We are getting started about 10am AZ time, so feel free start drinking then! Since this is the Saturday before St. Patrick's Day, we most certainly will
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Posted by: 3d914 Mar 13 2014, 06:28 PM

JP, got your details and I'm planning on making it.

Do you need a set of wheels? I have four of these - in decent shape that I won't be using. If you'd like them I just ask to trade for the steel wheels so I can have something to roll the car around with.

Let me know and I can bring them Saturday.

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Posted by: timothy_nd28 Mar 13 2014, 06:30 PM

Awesome. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: porkchopexpress Mar 13 2014, 06:48 PM

Gerard, yes please! I will get the tires off my steel wheels tomorrow and have them ready for you on Saturday.

Thank you!

Posted by: Mike Sanford Mar 13 2014, 09:44 PM

Awesome wheel score!

I was thinking about it this afternoon, and I realized, in the 2 years since I caught the 914 obsession, I've never met the owner of another running 914. Bought mine not running, looked at a few others that were also not running. Met lot's of people who had them back in the day, many more who wanted them back in the day, and even a few with a couple up on blocks, but no one with a running car.

Pretty excited to meet some 914 people. Wondering if you're all as off as I am.

Posted by: porkchopexpress Mar 13 2014, 10:52 PM


Mike, I kind of know how you feel. I have seen at least 3 here in Tucson out on the road, but I have never met any of the drivers. Really looking toward to meeting you guys on Saturday!


Posted by: AZ914 Mar 14 2014, 09:15 AM

JP,
Need any parts? I see from your pic that you are missing the side marker, I think I have 1 or 2 spares..

I can probably make it by in the early afternoon.

Posted by: porkchopexpress Mar 14 2014, 09:50 AM

Thanks Jason!

I did already pick up a couple of new side markers. If by chance you have a gasket for the front oval lens (not the side marker), I could use one of those. Pretty sure I can find one on 914rubber if not.

At the moment, I cannot think of anything else I need. But I will take inventory and let you know by this evening.

Thank you for the offer!

Posted by: 914GT Mar 14 2014, 10:10 AM

I have a couple of the turn signal lens gaskets, the original style and a repro from 914rubber. See if I can stop by late morning or might be after 2 or so. My right knee is good enough to drive again.

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Mar 14 2014, 10:15 AM

If anyone has a hot glue gun, it would be helpful for these led conversions.

Posted by: ndfrigi Mar 14 2014, 10:15 AM

Amazing how 914world members support each other not only thru online threads here in this site but to support personally and even by means of offering some parts for FREE to share.

Keep up the good things 914world members! God Bless you!

Noel

Posted by: 914GT Mar 14 2014, 10:26 AM

QUOTE(timothy_nd28 @ Mar 14 2014, 09:15 AM) *

If anyone has a hot glue gun, it would be helpful for these led conversions.


I have a couple, and the glue sticks. Will bring them along.

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Mar 14 2014, 10:28 AM

Thank you sir biggrin.gif

Posted by: AZ914 Mar 16 2014, 10:51 AM

It was great meeting you guys yesterday. How far a long did you get with the motor?

Posted by: Mblizzard Mar 16 2014, 03:45 PM

Update?

Posted by: porkchopexpress Mar 16 2014, 10:29 PM

Wanted to give a very special thanks and update.

We had a really good turn out. A very big thank you to users AZ914, Mike_Sandford, 914GT, 3d914, and Drifter914. Your presence, input, and elbow grease were so very much appreciated!!!

As an update, we hit a pretty big snag early on in the day. We tried turning the engine over but were unsuccessful. With eveyone's help, we dropped the engine and tranny, popped out the spark plugs and found signs of rust in cylinder 3 hissyfit.gif

But a quick trip to the local auto store and picked up an bottle hone and cleared out the rust. A band aid fix for now....

By the end of the day we had the engine back in, L-jet system installed, had the stainless lines installed, got the driver side seat belt installed. But I mistakenly popped out the coil spring on the passenger side. Count that one up to user error! Debating whether I will try to recoil or find another. Interior carpet pulled. Bad windshield removed. Worked till about 1:30 am.

Today we got the fuel pump in, re-installed the air box, got the tank back in, closed up the remaining vacuum lines, and ran the fuel injection hosing.

Been a busy full two days!


None of which would have been possible for me without the help of my friend timothy_nd28. Many many thanks bud!


Posted by: Mblizzard Mar 16 2014, 10:52 PM

I have a set of belts that are fair on the retraction I can send you! Let me know.
Tim is the man!

So great to hear you had some great help from the World. This place rocks? aktion035.gif

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 17 2014, 08:26 AM

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Posted by: malcolm2 Mar 17 2014, 07:30 PM

QUOTE(porkchopexpress @ Mar 16 2014, 11:29 PM) *

But I mistakenly popped out the coil spring on the passenger side. Count that one up to user error! Debating whether I will try to recoil or find another.


I was a bit too curious myself and turned my spring into a "birds nest". You can rewind it. It takes at least 2 people and 4 attempts, but it can be done.

Clark

Posted by: 3d914 Mar 17 2014, 07:40 PM

JP, glad to hear you got it back together. Be sure to get us a video once its running.

Posted by: AZ914 Mar 17 2014, 08:55 PM

Excellent! You guys got a lot done. Looking forward to seeing that thing run...

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Mar 17 2014, 09:12 PM

Got a bunch done today. The interior is complete and the windshield is in. This afternoon the engine roared to life. However, it's not playing nice. I'm having issues getting this to tune correctly. It's not holding a idle correctly, starting to wonder if this engine has a non fuel injection cam.

Posted by: 914GT Mar 17 2014, 09:27 PM

Let me know if you need anything, like dwell/tach, timing light, vacuum/fuel pressure gauge, compression gauge or whatever. I also have an air flow gauge if you decide to put the carbs back on. I'm only 5 min. away.

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Mar 17 2014, 09:33 PM

I appreciate that, thanks.
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Some pics of progress

Posted by: AZ914 Mar 17 2014, 10:10 PM

Wow! Great job on the interior!

Posted by: timothy_nd28 Mar 18 2014, 09:22 PM

Last day here in Tucson. My daughter and I will sadly miss this beautiful weather and our dear friends. Thanks again everyone for pitching in last Saturday.

The car was put back together, but I had failed to get this car to idle correctly. I pulled out some lifters to verify if they were hydraulic or not. During this process, I noticed that these solid lifters were brand new looking, with little to no wear. I came to the conclusion that the PO must of installed a carb cam, which was causing issues with my Ljet adjustments.

Even though it won't idle, it does pull strong above 2k.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX6WAUXLyi4



JP has a lead on a used "stock" 1.8 in the area. His plan will be to obtain this engine and possibly install a bigbore kit along with the Ljet we already installed.
Maybe a future Saturday working party? beerchug.gif

Posted by: 3d914 Mar 20 2014, 08:12 PM

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Wow! Great job on the interior!


Ditto! Looks real nice - the windshield too.

Posted by: drifter914 Mar 22 2014, 09:23 AM

Hey JP... You guys did an amazing amount of work after I left Saturday... & made some huge gains, up to actually driving it ! FYI... when I bought my 914 couple of years ago, it had stock FI engine & similar problem to what you describe. There are many , many possibilities re: it not wanting to idle or run at low rpm's & hauling ass at higher revs. I took off the FI & replaced with new Webers, now it purrs. Point is, problem may or may not be cam... you don't know, but IMHO the 1.7 engine you have may be worth keeping if you want to return it to a carb engine. Sure a lot easier at this point than the unknown 1.8 route. I've heard the 1.7 is the better engine of the two, also. If you do decide to scrap the 1.7, I'd be interested in buying the rockers w/ adjusters that are on it. Need a pait of Weber 40's... hahaha...Best wishes & stay in touch ! Terry

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