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Posted by: rmdinmd Mar 16 2014, 02:22 PM
as the description says where can you get them and what do you use. you buy the oil screen filter kit and it comes with the two gaskets and one crush ring not two.
for now I am using a neoprene washer as a gasket, I think I have read where some guys use copper washers. is that correct and if so size and where to get would be very helpful. I am trying hard to do things right to the point I bought a torque wrench that goes down to 5 lbs so I could avoid over torqueing the strainer nut.
thanks in advance
Rick
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Mar 16 2014, 02:29 PM
as the description says where can you get them and what do you use. you buy the oil screen filter kit and it comes with the two gaskets and one crush ring not two.
for now I am using a neoprene washer as a gasket, I think I have read where some guys use copper washers. is that correct and if so size and where to get would be very helpful. I am trying hard to do things right to the point I bought a torque wrench that goes down to 5 lbs so I could avoid over torqueing the strainer nut.
thanks in advance
Rick
Far in the past, there were 2 sealing rings per kit. Cheapness rules, and they've removed one of them. Mose folks don't remove the drain plug, I think, so the second ring isn't really necessary. I suppose I could contact my gasket guy and ask him if he has them in bulk. That's predicated, of course, demand for them. I have a $100 minimum order ..............
The Cap'n
Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 16 2014, 03:16 PM
contact rotary914 here in the vendors forum.
Posted by: boxsterfan Mar 16 2014, 09:21 PM
as the description says where can you get them and what do you use. you buy the oil screen filter kit and it comes with the two gaskets and one crush ring not two.
for now I am using a neoprene washer as a gasket, I think I have read where some guys use copper washers. is that correct and if so size and where to get would be very helpful. I am trying hard to do things right to the point I bought a torque wrench that goes down to 5 lbs so I could avoid over torqueing the strainer nut.
thanks in advance
Rick
I don't bother to change the copper gasket (what's left) on my drain plug. I just put it back on. On the oil sump, I used the gaskets and copper washer as you describe.
Posted by: Shindog1961 Mar 17 2014, 11:24 AM
They have a good price here for the copper crush washers.
https://www.belmetric.com/
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Mar 17 2014, 12:12 PM
The price is good, but they charge you freight (USPS Priority Mail) and the price break is at 50. If I bought a hundred for $30, add in the postage (about 8 bucks), and the outgoing postage to forum members, they'd be 88 cents apiece. Of course, that would go down for orders for more than one piece. If I can get enough orders for 10 per order, I can do this for $6.50 for 10, delivered. Sure, I make a little money, but it's not like it covers the hassle or anything.
The Cap'n
Posted by: michael7810 Mar 17 2014, 12:22 PM
Hey Cap'n - can you get the sump gaskets & seal and offer a complete kit for the lazy sob's like me? I would go for 10 kits.
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Mar 17 2014, 01:20 PM
Shipping 10 kits brings on more shipping costs. 4 bucks a set, plus whatever the postage is. That's maybe 43 bucks, delivered, including a buck for Mr. Paypal? The gaskets are the nice German ones, not those POS thin Sabo gaskets.
The Cap'n
Posted by: rmdinmd Mar 17 2014, 02:00 PM
somehow I suspect I am not the only one that has run into this. Captn, if you decide to do that I would be in for 10 of them; otherwise I'll bite the bullet and get 50 myselfe and never need to buy another one again. 
Posted by: Intubator Mar 17 2014, 06:00 PM
These are available from AA at a $1.00 each the size is 22x27mm, of course you have the minimum shipping issue... You might be able to get a bunch at a place like this for the same shipping or less and probably less per piece in a larger quantity: http://www.mcmaster.com/# Sometimes I'll do a Google search with just the part # to see what options pop up too. The Porsche part # is 90012301130
Posted by: Intubator Mar 17 2014, 06:11 PM
Here's the actual sealing ring in the McMaster Catalog. Pack of 10 for $9 and change. http://www.mcmaster.com/#97725a950/=r50m59
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Mar 17 2014, 06:17 PM
Here's the actual sealing ring in the McMaster Catalog. Pack of 10 for $9 and change. http://www.mcmaster.com/#97725a950/=r50m59
Nice try. Right diameter. Wrong part.
The Cap'n
Posted by: Intubator Mar 17 2014, 06:52 PM
Here's the actual sealing ring in the McMaster Catalog. Pack of 10 for $9 and change. http://www.mcmaster.com/#97725a950/=r50m59
Nice try. Right diameter. Wrong part.
The Cap'n
OK, how so?
Posted by: michael7810 Mar 17 2014, 07:12 PM
I'll do 10 of the Cap'n' kits for 43 bucks. Let us know if it's a go and thanks for helping the community.
Posted by: rmdinmd May 10 2014, 06:44 AM
Found them here.
http://www.airheadparts.com/vintage-vw-parts/clips-nuts-bolts-screws-washers/copper-sealing-crush-washer-12x18-n138052
shipping cost is a little crazy but just buy a bunch.
Posted by: Harpo May 10 2014, 07:33 AM
I'm game for a group buy and I'm good for 20. If you buy 250 the shipping is free from Belmetric.
David
Posted by: 76-914 May 10 2014, 08:10 AM
Hey John, I'd take 5 of those kits if you do a run. 
Posted by: orthobiz May 10 2014, 08:55 AM
Anybody else just do the drain plug/washer and oil filter without the sump thingy? I've never cleaned out that strainer thing. Or replaced the gasket. It's big and scary looking, like it won't seal again. Am I going to air-cooled hell?? Save me, Cap'n!
Paul
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty May 10 2014, 09:16 AM
Well, I lost track of this one! Sorry. My source is out right now, but I have another, I think. I'll get on this Monday and see what I can do.
I do the screen every time. There's apt to be glop and other nasty stuff on there, stuff you want to monitor.
The Cap'n
Posted by: bandjoey May 10 2014, 10:11 AM
Just a customer. Al Zim has the original that's in the screen kit to sell individually.
Allzim.com
Posted by: rmital May 10 2014, 10:37 AM
Just a customer. Al Zim has the original that's in the screen kit to sell individually.
Allzim.com
....those don't look right....have you purchased them?
Posted by: reharvey May 10 2014, 11:54 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12mm-ID-COPPER-CRU...S-/390285719861
These are not crush washers but they are exactly the right size and I've never had one leak. Been using them for years without a problem.
Posted by: bandjoey May 10 2014, 03:51 PM
Havent looked at their www. On my phone. What I buy across the counter is exactly what's in the strainer bag. Zims that is. Call em on Monday for a chat. Nice people.
Posted by: euro911 May 10 2014, 04:17 PM
I never could understand why when one purchases something like 10 little crush washers, why the vendor just doesn't mail them in a small padded envelope USPS First Class Mail for about $2.00, instead of a box loaded with packing material for $9.95 
Actually, if you include a paper sheet of printed instruction with them, you could mail it via USPS Media Mail for about a buck 
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty May 10 2014, 06:34 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12mm-ID-COPPER-CRU...S-/390285719861
These are not crush washers but they are exactly the right size and I've never had one leak. Been using them for years without a problem.
Might work OK for the drain plug, but 11ft/lbs of torque isn't gonna do diddly to make that washer seal on the sump cover.
The Cap'n
Posted by: bandjoey May 10 2014, 07:10 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12mm-ID-COPPER-CRU...S-/390285719861
These are not crush washers but they are exactly the right size and I've never had one leak. Been using them for years without a problem.ynes shows 9.4 LSD on the sump. Is
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Might work OK for the drain plug, but 11ft/lbs of torque isn't gonna do diddly to make that washer seal on the sump cover.
The Cap'n
.? Cap'n. Haynes says 9.4 lbs on the sump cover. Is it better to go to 11 or is it another Haynes mistake? Thanks
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