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Posted by: 914itis Mar 23 2014, 05:04 PM
Not sure what I will do with it yet, maybe a good project to to practice my welding skills.
We shall see.
It may be worth saving.
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Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 23 2014, 05:07 PM
That's Golden....
Posted by: timothy_nd28 Mar 23 2014, 05:08 PM
gauges may need some work 
Posted by: Garold Shaffer Mar 23 2014, 06:07 PM
what year? 70-72?
Posted by: r_towle Mar 23 2014, 06:13 PM
Garold wants......
Posted by: Garold Shaffer Mar 23 2014, 06:26 PM
Garold wants......
Posted by: r_towle Mar 23 2014, 06:33 PM
Posted by: rmital Mar 23 2014, 06:40 PM
Dam, barely had time to consider buying this one!
Got to move fast with this northeast crew
Posted by: 914itis Mar 23 2014, 06:51 PM
It took me 2 hrs to get it on the trailer, corrosion was so bad on the calipers that I had to remove 3 of them to get it rolling.
Tim ; if I save this one it will be all original.
Garold ; yes it is a 72
Posted by: Garold Shaffer Mar 23 2014, 07:00 PM
It took me 2 hrs to get it on the trailer, corrosion was so bad on the calipers that I had to remove 3 of them to get it rolling.
Tim ; if I save this one it will be all original.
Garold ; yes it is a 72
Next time just pull the pads from the calipers. I always bring a pliers, hammer, prybar, punch (knock the pins out) and a can of WD40. Soak the pads with WD40, pull the pins. Sometimes need the prybar to get the pads to come out. Oh and always bring an air tank (full of air)
If you are able to save it, do it. I know by west cost standards it might be to far gone, but they are getting harder to find that can be fixed. If you don't plan to repair it clean it up a bit and sell it has a project car if possible.
Posted by: 914itis Mar 23 2014, 07:07 PM
I tried that , wd40, hammer tried to pull the pads. They didn't budge. The quickest way was to pull the calipers.
Posted by: Garold Shaffer Mar 23 2014, 07:15 PM
I have had that happen before also. Sometimes a BFH 
and a 19mm wrench is all you need.
Posted by: mepstein Mar 23 2014, 07:19 PM
It took me 2 hrs to get it on the trailer, corrosion was so bad on the calipers that I had to remove 3 of them to get it rolling.
Tim ; if I save this one it will be all original.
Garold ; yes it is a 72
Paul - your a better 914 owner than me. I was going to part it.
Posted by: 914itis Mar 23 2014, 07:31 PM
It took me 2 hrs to get it on the trailer, corrosion was so bad on the calipers that I had to remove 3 of them to get it rolling.
Tim ; if I save this one it will be all original.
Garold ; yes it is a 72
Paul - your a better 914 owner than me. I was going to part it.
Mark , I still don't know yet. I have to do more digging first . If I have to deal with floor pans and extensive hell hole repair, I will pRt it out.
Posted by: r_towle Mar 23 2014, 07:34 PM
Whatever you do, don't leave it stock.....sheesh
Posted by: Eric_Shea Mar 24 2014, 04:59 PM
Oh Boy... If I could only find a -6 in that color! 
(Michael's gonna kill me if I make another comment like that!)
Posted by: jsayre914 Mar 24 2014, 05:01 PM
You still have time to get it ready for Hershey 
Posted by: 914itis Mar 24 2014, 05:03 PM
You still have time to get it ready for Hershey
Don't give me ideas . I may!
Posted by: colingreene Mar 24 2014, 05:39 PM
I love the colour, good luck.
Posted by: Chris H. Mar 24 2014, 06:03 PM
Great buy! So what's the rust situation? Hell hole ok? Floors? Hope it's not too bad since she's been sitting since '78 per the ad. They always look so nice in pics. Hope it's an easy resto. Love that color!
Posted by: 914itis Mar 24 2014, 06:20 PM
Here is what I see so far.
Bad :
Hell hole needs repair, Lonny's seems ok but jack post area are gone on both sides, rust by the drivers side top of the long. Rust on passenger's side sail, one engine shelf and battery tray is gone but the metal behind the tray is solid
I haven't take the rest if the rocker off yet.
good:
Both trunks are good
Interior and floors are solid and good
Doors open and close with jack and weight
Pedal area is good
Interior upholstery including dash is mint
Engine was last running on 3 cylinders
It was a tail shift converted to side.
Posted by: 914itis Jun 11 2014, 07:11 PM
I decided to save this one.
Looks like it is going to be my summer project.
This weekend I finally had a chance to see what's going on with this car.
Engine turns over, fuel pump is dead, fuel lines are clogged.
In the next few days I will be cleaning the tank, change the fuel lines to SS and replace the fuel pump.
Sty tuned...
Posted by: 76-914 Jun 12 2014, 09:13 AM
Isn't your summer only 3 weeks long? Have fun.
Posted by: rgolia Jun 12 2014, 01:50 PM
That a boy Paul...you save that little guy. One or more bottles of home made Stony Knoll pinot for you when it is complete. If you need help...let me know.
Posted by: bulitt Jun 12 2014, 02:00 PM
I'm Thinking more property- up the Hudson...
Posted by: 914itis Jun 12 2014, 02:15 PM
That a boy Paul...you save that little guy. One or more bottles of home made Stony Knoll pinot for you when it is complete. If you need help...let me know.
That's a deal.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jun 13 2014, 06:35 AM
Paul, may god bless you and keep you in his prayers.
Do you ever sit down ?
Posted by: 914itis Sep 6 2014, 12:44 PM
I spent a few days last week repairing h ) the jack post area of the longs and all most of the arrears that needs cutting and welding.
Today, I replaced all fuel lines with stainless steel and all hoses. also replaced and moved to the front the donated fuel pump ( mepstein) by mark, thanks mark.
Fuel tank is cleaned, treated and ready to go back in (hopefully in the morning)
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Posted by: bembry Sep 6 2014, 11:42 PM
Wow--you're really moving out on that one---Way to go!
Posted by: Porschef Sep 7 2014, 05:03 AM
Musta been some critter living in that long. Nice of it to help the rust process in the worst spot...
Looks pretty good. 
Posted by: arkitect Sep 7 2014, 06:47 AM
Paul,
That was quick work, it would have took me months to do that.
What did you do to to treat the gas tank, did you use the POR-15 treatment kit or something else?
Dave
Posted by: 914nola Sep 7 2014, 09:03 AM
I know this is off topic but can someone post a pic of where their hood, cowl, fender and a pillar meet. I noticed something in one of these photos different from mine.
Posted by: 914itis Sep 7 2014, 09:09 AM
Paul,
That was quick work, it would have took me months to do that.
What did you do to to treat the gas tank, did you use the POR-15 treatment kit or something else?
Dave
Dave
The tank was not that bad to begin with . Only surface rust on the outside . I treated the inside with vinegar. I filled it up and let it sit for a few days.
I sanded the outside surface rust , treated with por15, them use ratel can to spray it.
Posted by: arkitect Sep 8 2014, 04:34 AM
Paul,
What size of a container of the POR is enough for the gas tank, quart?
Dave
Posted by: Phoenix914 Sep 8 2014, 06:09 AM
Paul,
What size of a container of the POR is enough for the gas tank, quart?
Dave
The quart can is what you need.
Posted by: 914itis Sep 8 2014, 06:11 AM
Paul,
What size of a container of the POR is enough for the gas tank, quart?
Dave
The quart can is what you need.
Posted by: 914itis Sep 9 2014, 09:37 PM
My second attempt to get it started was unsuccessful again.
After changing all the fuel lines , no go.
I check for fuel and pressure.... Pass
Check vacuum lines from the plenum .......cracked- replaced
Still no go
Upon further diagnostic , I noticed that the trigger points were not connected from the ECU. One of the injectors grounds behind the engine was out of the spade. ( PO said that it was running on 3 cylinders and papers found in the car shows that he was shopping for a replacement motor) hopefully that was it..
I check the points and and there was no ground when the distributor spins ( bad point)
I corrected all of the above and replaced the points.
Since it was a bit late and I didn't wAnt to piss off the neighbors I left it as that. I didn't crank it. .... I think I have a good shot at getting it started tomorrow.
Next on my list is compression test.
Posted by: 914itis Jul 15 2015, 08:02 PM
We have been BZ.
most of the welding and body work is completed, longs sail etc.. we just need to cut and weld the battery area.
Ashton is doing most of the work with my supervision.
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Posted by: 914itis Jul 15 2015, 08:03 PM
He change the push rod seals, adjusted the valves, dwell , we also managed to get the engine started. we will be timing this weekend.
Posted by: Mblizzard Jul 15 2015, 08:36 PM
I don't care if it is a 914 or a Pinto, working together on a project with my dad taught me most of what I know about cars and a lot about life. The time is well spent.
Pretty awesome work!
Posted by: 914itis Jul 15 2015, 08:40 PM
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Posted by: Chris H. Jul 15 2015, 08:54 PM
Sweet I almost forgot about this gold barn find.
Wow that engine cleaned up great! Nice work guys. Sounds like Ashton is pretty talented! Some of the things on your list are not novice tasks. Valve adjustment?
The compression was good then? And that single carb is temporary ?
Posted by: 914itis Jul 15 2015, 09:04 PM
Sweet I almost forgot about this gold barn find.Wow that engine cleaned up great! Nice work guys. Sounds like Ashton is pretty talented! Some of the things on your list are not novice tasks. Valve adjustment?
The compression was good then? And that single carb is temporary
?I have done a few adjustments over the years . I intend to do a compression test soon as well.
Yes he's saving up for some dual webbers hopefully before he's able to drive it. He turns 16 in September.
Posted by: Chris H. Jul 15 2015, 09:22 PM
Sweet I almost forgot about this gold barn find.Wow that engine cleaned up great! Nice work guys. Sounds like Ashton is pretty talented! Some of the things on your list are not novice tasks. Valve adjustment?
The compression was good then? And that single carb is temporary
?I have done a few adjustments over the years . I intend to do a compression test soon as well.
Yes he's saving up for some dual webbers hopefully before he's able to drive it. He turns 16 in September.
Oh I'm sure you have done a valve adjustment, but it's impressive that your 15 year old son can do one! Or any of the other things you mentioned. You taught him well!
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