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Posted by: Stutgart46 Jan 11 2005, 02:15 PM

Does anybody know where I can buy the mesh for the engine lid? I am trying to create a GT lid.
Thanks for your help.

Posted by: Jeff Bonanno Jan 11 2005, 02:18 PM

might ask Qarl:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=8991&hl=expanded,and,metal

Posted by: Mueller Jan 11 2005, 02:22 PM

QUOTE (Stutgart46 @ Jan 11 2005, 01:15 PM)
Does anybody know where I can buy the mesh for the engine lid? I am trying to create a GT lid.
Thanks for your help.

95% of the GT lids you see are 2 lids combined

normal swap meet price for a spare engine lid is $10 to $20 from what I have seen

Posted by: nein14 Jan 11 2005, 04:07 PM

I got my material from Mc Master Carr the material is an exact match, reasonable cost.

Posted by: spunone Jan 11 2005, 04:11 PM

Whats the Pt# for Mc Master Carr for the screen?

Posted by: Jeroen Jan 11 2005, 04:22 PM

check the "classic threads" forum
there's an excellent write up there on how to build a GT lid with 2 stock grilles

Posted by: Mueller Jan 11 2005, 04:25 PM

I'd like to have one made entirely of aluminum or some other lite-weight material IPB Image

oh....just found some on page 2924 (Catalog 104)

hmmm, anyone know what size the mesh is?

along with aluminum, they have stainless, that might be neat if you want to polish it up......

you want "flattened" mesh, not the regular mesh

try looking up part number 9302T11 on-line to see othe sizes and materials

Posted by: spunone Jan 11 2005, 04:47 PM

thanks Mike IPB Image

Posted by: Mueller Jan 11 2005, 04:56 PM

QUOTE (spunone @ Jan 11 2005, 03:47 PM)
thanks Mike IPB Image

your welcome....however, don't take my word for that particular part number, I was just pointing you to the page...I have no idea of the correct or near ideal size mesh...

Posted by: nsyr Jan 11 2005, 06:16 PM

The opening is .4 x .2 inches.

Posted by: Stutgart46 Jan 11 2005, 07:35 PM

Thanks guys. I have an extra engine lid that's in really good shape. I'll look into both ways and determine which is the easiest. IPB Image

Posted by: DJsRepS Jan 13 2005, 04:39 AM

Never heard of an GT engine lid. Can someone post a Pic? I thought the GT was mainly the wheel wells being flared.

Posted by: lapuwali Jan 13 2005, 10:14 AM

GT engine lid has mesh all over. No closed area near the window.

Posted by: Joseph Mills Jan 13 2005, 12:28 PM

QUOTE (DJsRepS @ Jan 13 2005, 04:39 AM)
Never heard of an GT engine lid. Can someone post a Pic? I thought the GT was mainly the wheel wells being flared.

Here is one I built from two spares - one as a donor of it's mesh and the other as a donor for the frame (I still have my original with rain tray for winter months).

Craig (Cametal) fabricated one after seeing mine, and in my view greatly improved on what I did. He used one solid piece of mesh - I think it has a cleaner look. Also he cut down the diagonal brace and cut large holes in it to reduce weight. It looks real cool and retains more rigidity. I'll try to get him to post a pic.

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Posted by: Joseph Mills Jan 13 2005, 12:30 PM

I think that using a single sheet of mesh may be the easier of the two.

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Posted by: DJsRepS Jan 13 2005, 01:51 PM

What material is that silver insulation stuff ? Can it be washed? Cab sound or heat better?

Posted by: Joseph Mills Jan 13 2005, 03:09 PM

QUOTE (DJsRepS @ Jan 13 2005, 01:51 PM)
What material is that silver insulation stuff ? Can it be washed? Cab sound or heat better?

It's just the regular silver foil insulation material available at ACE, HoDePo, etc. A ten dollar roll of it will cover the firewall. It was installed by the PO, but I replaced it when I pulled the engine for an upper end rebuild.

It can be washed.

It's main job is to hide all the glue on the firewall the PO applied when he installed the first one. IPB Image BTW, the original pad was also removed by the PO.

The main thing I like about it is the amount of light it bounces into the engine bay.

I was somewhat afraid of what I would find when I initially removed it, but thankfully there is not one spot of rust anywhere, top to bottom.

All that being said, if it were a daily driver, or if I drove it in the rain, inclement weather, etc., I would lean towards having nothing on the firewall other than paint. Many owners have found rust behind the original insulation pad.

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Posted by: DJsRepS Jan 14 2005, 04:04 AM

The orignal insulation pad was behind the seats in the cab right? Ive never seen one in the motor bay. I thought it looked kinda neat and was just wondering if it made any improvements in the cab.

Posted by: davep Jan 14 2005, 06:32 AM

Here are a few photos from factory GT lids; a few different lids but the same construction.

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Posted by: davep Jan 14 2005, 06:33 AM

seam

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Posted by: davep Jan 14 2005, 06:34 AM

bottom

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Posted by: datapace Jan 14 2005, 06:39 AM

Qarl said he got his from here:

http://www.hkperf.com

Perforated metal...

Diamond

http://www.hkperf.com/instock/stdeco.html

-bryan

Posted by: greg.treadway Jan 14 2005, 09:59 AM

We sell the GT grill material for $50. Part number B91450401300. On another note there are two different styles. There is the 916 grill which is two pieces overlaped in the middle which covers the upper and lower and the GT rally grill which is two pieces, upper and lower and does not overlap. I hate to see people combine good engine lids.

Posted by: Mueller Jan 14 2005, 10:12 AM

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I hate to see people combine good engine lids

for the most part, they are not worth too much, they don't really break, they don't get damaged easily unless someone is extremly careless with it.....it's hard to sell one for $20 at the swapmeets.....

just because the dealer or factory sells/sold them for $300 (wild ass guess), it does not mean the part is worth $150 used

If the material you have does match than yes, then even at $50 it might be easier to convert an existing lid using just the new material...

Posted by: Joseph Mills Jan 14 2005, 11:01 AM

QUOTE (DJsRepS @ Jan 14 2005, 04:04 AM)
The orignal insulation pad was behind the seats in the cab right? Ive never seen one in the motor bay. I thought it looked kinda neat and was just wondering if it made any improvements in the cab.

Yes, there are pads in the engine compartment. I don't know if a pad comes in every car (year & model) - others more knowledgeable can answer that. Seems that -6 did not have the pad?

There is another pad in the passenger compartment that is behind the seats and surrounding area. This pad has also been removed in my car.

Removing all the pads presents a savings in weight at the expense of less noise and thermal insulation.

The original pads are much thicker and denser than the silver foil pad (it does not equate to the originals).

Engine noises, especially with carbs, is noticeably louder with the GT lid than a stock lid with raintray.

Which for my preference is a good thing. IPB Image

If it were a daily driver street car and I was commuting in it, I would want to stay with original pads and lid.

Posted by: davep Jan 14 2005, 12:05 PM

The engine compartment pad was installed from about 1973 up. That is why the sixes did not get it.