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Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 9 2014, 10:59 PM

Okay, here's the deal, I just bought this car in early March, and I have to tell a bit of the story of myself and the "progress." I found it in the upper desert (Pearblossom, near Palmdale/Lancaster, SoCal) at an out-of-the-way, largely Mercedes Benz junkyard, where I went with a friend so he could check out and buy a MB Diesel wagon. (he swears by them) There it sat, forlornly knee deep in the weeds and I couldn't resist. The purveyor of the fine assortment of (junk) classics wanted $3K for the car, I had the money, but I finagled it way down because he needed the dough, badly. I aired up the tires and with the help of a crack head forklift driver who "forked" a few dead MB's out of the way, it rolled right out! The dirtiest car (inside) I've ever seen, and/or have ever taken on. This car was NASTY inside when I first saw it.

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2358_zps87ba9f63.jpg.html

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2369_zpseba2e976.jpg.html

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 9 2014, 11:02 PM

So, after dropping off his (pain in the ass) MB wagon in San Fernando, we headed back for my new toy. I finally got home after a full day of driving all over Pencil-Tucky retreiving (junk) cars with high hopes. By 11:00 that night, the car was in my garage in south Orange County. My fiance is already jealous, probably wants to give me a reality lecture, and all I want to do is start working on it by midnight!

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2374_zps472e3b63.jpg.html

Notice the dirt/mud stains on the tires.....Isn't the side mirror supposed to point to the rear?

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 9 2014, 11:12 PM

That Monday, I joined something called "914 World." I am a quick study, I've owned many cars, all types of VW's, Porsches, Ghias, BMW's, etc. I start cleaning it first, taking out all of the extra parts that came with the car and indexing the paperwork, receipts, manuals, junk. I know enough to save all this stuff, as I have in the past made the mistake of tossing stuff out immediately. I save EVERYTHING now. The receipts were interesting, the car seemed to be well maintained during it's life. The guy was a Navy flyer obviously, with receipts from Pensacola, Hawaii, Virginia, Texas, Yuma, AZ, even a service in Acapulco, Mexico. My fiance is nodding, but I know she is thinking: (I"M NEVER GETTING IN THAT PIECE OF SHIT, EVER, EVER.) I'm cool, I can dig the dirt out, the car is okay, solid, (I have no idea at this point what a "hell hole" on a 914 is) and I'm in business. A battery, some gas, and I drive down to the tire store on the way to the DMV and I'm golden. I'm into a fine German sports car for under $2,200.

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2378_zps41081427.jpg.html
After some clean up......

Posted by: mgp4591 Apr 9 2014, 11:27 PM

Could've done alot worse but she looks pretty clean! They all have rust to some degree... it hides from you!

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 9 2014, 11:28 PM

So, I reach out to the fine forum here, introduce my self, (newbie wanna-be) and tell a bit of the story, and a few people offered help, (Bruce, Colin) and Colin Greene even showed up and spent half the day helping me do a new starter, and getting the POS up on jack stands. (the kiss of death) A new battery, starter, some relays, Eff with the fuel pump, tighten some hoses, buy a remote starter, (because no start at the dash switch,) a fire extinguisher, and put a gallon of gas in. The engine turns over nicely, but doesn't start. So, I return to the forum and call Bruce back. He gives me the "hoses, fuses, grounds, fire extinguisher" lecture, (thanks!) and I go back to work. Some things work, wipers, radio, blinkers, lights, (no headlights) and I'm happy with the progress. I call around to my beloved 356 mechanic, (NO 914's!!!!) and a couple other local shops that work on type IV buses, (NO 914's!!!) VW places that end with the word "haus." (NO 914's!!!) No takers. Shitskies!! Hmm, okay, I'm back as the head mechanic. I go about faking like I know what to do with a test light (my fiance is impressed) and make a bit of progress> (in my own mind, I know I'm completely lost) I determine that there is no power going through the coil. So I call a local guy to ask if he sells Bosch coils. We get to talking, and he says he used to work on 914's all the time. "Can you take a look?" "Bring it down Monday." Call AAA and tow it two miles away. I'M FRIGGIN' PUMPED!!!

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2387_zps3e960eca.jpg.html

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2409_zps6d0b3d48.jpg.html

There it goes for a quick fix...............................................................................................

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 9 2014, 11:31 PM

Hell hole? Look at the longitudinal channel (that provides most of the strength of the chassis) directly under the battery in the forward right side of the engine compartment. Is there a rotted, rusted hole in the metal? Probably. Oh man, you're screwed now!! By the way.

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 9 2014, 11:38 PM

This place does mostly Mercedes Benz repair, but Gary seems to know what's up on VW's and Porsches too. (He is building a badass BMW 2002 street racer, so I'm pretty sure I'm in the right place!) He says he'll look at it that afternoon, Monday. By Wednesday, nothing. It hasn't moved and it's parked right on PCH, on his lot. I drive by there every day on my way to work. I'm sure it's going to get stolen. A week goes by, nothing, and so I wander in. He's one mechanic down, shorthanded, but he'll get to it. I'm friggin getting antsy by now. He sends me a probable parts needed list, but no prices. I just want the thing done. I have the money to fix it, but I want it done right and running. (I'm reading 914 racing stuff here and doing the Walter Mitty thing, the wife thinks I'm mad) Two weeks, nothing.

I sent him an email last night, I don't want to be a dick, and this coming Friday I was just going to go quietly pick it up, no arguing. Today, I drive by and I see it halfway up on his rack, Bosch parts boxes on the roof!!! Yaaayy. It's a good day.

I remember driving my friend's 914-6 in high school, and I NEVER Forgot the feeling. I don't know why it took me 40 years to finally buy one? I'll update things when I find out, and thanks for the friendship and the forum!

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 9 2014, 11:53 PM

Yup, there is the "factory" rust there, but not really as bad as I thought at one point.

Posted by: euro911 Apr 10 2014, 12:16 AM

Post some pix of the hell hole so we can see what you're up against.

Best to learn as much about the car so you can do most of the repairs yourself. As you have already found, there isn't a large selection of repair facilities to work on them any more.

Take your time and ask as many questions as you need. You'll find most of the knowledge and mechanical skills right here on World.

Some folks quickly lose their love affair after they get an enormous repair bill and still don't have a good running car.

Posted by: wndsnd Apr 10 2014, 08:25 AM

I got my engine from a crack head!

Very dependable.

























The engine. Not the crack head..

John

Posted by: JawjaPorsche Apr 10 2014, 08:52 AM

Welcome to the Madness!

Posted by: boogie_man Apr 10 2014, 09:57 AM

neighbor car looks good, liking the color (they're faster). I know of some good mechanics in the area if you don't get any further. Looks like a pretty clean car considering where you found it (they don't do well sitting outside anywhere in the world) Good luck......

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Apr 10 2014, 10:12 AM

You might want to invest in some safer jack stands. One of our members was badly injured when a jack stand of that type failed. I prefer the ones that are secured with a pin that inserts through the barrel of the stand.

Posted by: green914 Apr 10 2014, 11:21 AM

Posted by: 76-914 Apr 10 2014, 01:19 PM

Do it yourself and get the answers to your questions here. These are simple little cars and won't be a problem for you to maintain yourself. As far as your "lack of knowledge" is concerned I'd bet that 85% of our members were mechanical novices before joining our ranks.
Oh. Be sure to make the G&R event in a few weeks.

Posted by: smarens Apr 10 2014, 05:59 PM

, enjoy the new addiction, I'm a few months into it and still super pumped, mine runs but does need some "fixin", good luck and hope you are driving it soon

Posted by: r_towle Apr 10 2014, 07:39 PM

So I see your first mistake was to ask a few "914 experts" to come help and they ended up jacking up your new toy and placing the sacred jack stands underneath.

Did they draw the circle around the car and light the correct German made candles to ensure the jack stands would mate with the car properly?

Never invite guys over who being jack stands as gifts....

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 10 2014, 10:16 PM

I bought the jack stands and it is already off of them! I read a lot here about the "curse of the jack stands" and I want to avoid it. I just want to drive it.

Posted by: euro911 Apr 11 2014, 09:18 AM

Those stands are OK, just drill and pin them.

Posted by: ConeDodger Apr 11 2014, 12:43 PM

He wasn't 'badly' injured. He wasn't that pretty to begin with...

Posted by: 914_teener Apr 11 2014, 03:05 PM

Nice quiver of boards you've got......Trestles no doubt?

Welcome to the madness.

Posted by: Sfreeman615 Apr 11 2014, 08:22 PM

Welcome aboard! I'm a newbie myself, but have had some great help from guys here on the forum from answering hundreds of questions to coming over and helping me drop my engine and strip my car for media blasting! This place is a great resource for support and learning!

Posted by: Black22 Apr 11 2014, 09:32 PM

Those aren't Trestles boards. Look more like San-O or Trails boards....man I miss SoCal

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 12 2014, 12:16 AM

You're right! The San Onofre boards are from a 9'2" tri-fin to 11'6" crowd dominator, and the shortboards are on the lower shelves for Middles and Lowers.....

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 15 2014, 09:53 PM

Okay, the car starts at the key, (new switch,) brakes are good, new wheels need to be mounted for a proper test drive....I have them....

We have ignition, Houston!!!! I would REALLY like to drive this car to Lake Tahoe!!!!

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 23 2014, 08:13 PM

Okay, I'm not as "blue" anymore, the car has updated Fuchs and new Yokohamas. The 205/65's barely fit, but they don't rub. For a mystery 1.7 driver, it hauls ass. (NOT) I'm surprised, so was my mechanic. It runs just fine. Brakes work good, clutch and trans okay. What took me so long to buy one of these?

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2443_zpsadf146e5.jpg.html

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 23 2014, 08:38 PM

I'm smitten and my fiancé went to bed early. She may be jealous...?

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2440_zps1ea9a03d.jpg.html

Posted by: euro911 Apr 24 2014, 01:41 AM

You may have to get rid of her at some point in time then. Your choice as to which her

Posted by: KELTY360 Apr 24 2014, 06:36 AM

Not very often is haul ass and 1.7 used in the same sentence. All the better that it's a boneyard rescue. Looking great.....nice work!

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Apr 24 2014, 06:42 AM

Really have to ask what the hell was that car doing in a boneyard to begin with?! Way to go rescuing her

Posted by: Java2570 Apr 24 2014, 07:38 AM

nice job!

Posted by: 914_teener Apr 24 2014, 07:47 AM

Very cool.......drive the 1.7 till it dies......it could be a long time.

Posted by: Moneypit Apr 24 2014, 08:06 AM

We need to make some "Who Rescued Who" stickers with a 914 outline...


Cool score by the way! We got our first 914, a '74 1.8 for $600! Guy basically wanted it out from the front of his house, and there it went. One of the carbs was frozen and the gas pedal bell crank was busted, but we got her to turn over by pouring gas down the carb. Caught the car on fire before we even owned it.

I will have to +1 on the suggestion to really check out the underbody and the normal rust areas, that 1.8 was decomissioned due to really agressive rust in the rear passenger suspension mounting area. Killed what was really an alright car.

Posted by: euro911 Apr 24 2014, 04:42 PM

I don't know ... we've seen some folks bring back some really dead cars over the years



My wife's [supposed] 1.7L halls butt ... sometimes two butts

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 24 2014, 06:52 PM

I took a good little drive today, out to Colin's, then back through Laguna Canyon to PCH, and then south with the top off. Heavenly. Car ran strong, but it doesn't exactly "haul ass." (I was excited yesterday.) The only car I've ever owned that is close to this much fun is my 356.

I'd like to lower the front to level it.....?

Posted by: 76-914 Apr 24 2014, 07:17 PM

There is a 8mm bolt(s) that adjust the torsion bar(s) that will change ride height but you will need an alignment afterwards. Only takes 1 or 2 turns at the most. Lowering will give you a lot of toe in before alignment.

Posted by: bdstone914 Apr 24 2014, 08:22 PM

Glad you had a chance to stop by the other day.
Sorry I missed your call.
Do not have a 73 D'S door panel.

BTW it is an 11mm bolt in the adjuster at the back of the torsion bar you turn to lower the car.
Bruce

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 25 2014, 09:38 PM

I visited Bob At Appbiz today for some interior bits. It's nice to go and see how these things are actually made. Door panels, carpet set..he makes RS stuff, this guy is legit. Highly recommended! PCA discount too....Every$$$ helps

Posted by: euro911 Apr 26 2014, 12:14 AM

Bob is up in my neck of the woods (sort of). Coincidentally, the shop I lease in Harbor City used to be Bob's shop. Good guy and has a lot of stuff for our cars.

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 26 2014, 09:20 AM

I installed his door panels yesterday and today will be carpet day. My car was really ragged inside from years of sitting and weather in the desert. The POS is really starting to take shape.

Posted by: euro911 Apr 26 2014, 04:55 PM

You've done quite a bit in only two months

Some of us have taken several years getting one on the road.

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 26 2014, 06:17 PM

Stripped the old shatty carpet out, ready for new stuff....

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2445_zps3162b243.jpg.html

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 26 2014, 06:19 PM

Viola!!! A few pitfalls, learn as you go.. This took me about 2 1/2 hours start to finish. I can't say enough good things about the Appbiz set, although there are a few things I might tell Bob about his future kits that could improve them even more. This isn't that hard to do, guys.....

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2446_zps9cd3a5bd.jpg.html

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 28 2014, 07:22 PM

Next is to attack some nagging things:

1) fix the gas gauge - Where is the sender?
2) new rear shocks and springs - Which shocks I should buy?
3) I need a driver's door map box/door handle thing - Anybody got one?
4) fix the headlights - They work, occasionally

Posted by: r_towle Apr 28 2014, 08:00 PM

1) sender is in the tank, underneath the expansion tank which unbolts.
2) Sachs for stock ride, koni for a nice ride with adjustments, bilsteins for a stiffer ride
3) post a WTB ad, I suspect more than a few locals have one.
4) clean all the connections and grounds...and headlight switch.

Posted by: SHREK914 Apr 29 2014, 07:34 PM

The problem with your headlights sounds like it's in your ignition switch, I have a similar problem withe my 1974 914 2.0.

Turn your car on, pull your headlight switch, and "slightly turn your key clockwise", very slightly

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 29 2014, 10:53 PM

After a quick "tech talk" with Bruce this afternoon, my lights are working. A few fiddles, and "viola!" I took the top tank off today and pulled out the sender to test it, and when I turned it over, I saw that the wires were all sheared off. They don't look cut, but maybe something else "nibbled" on them? I don't know, but I now know one of the issues the fuel gauge has. It almost looks as if the cable for one of the vent boxes in that area might have worn it through?

Posted by: boogie_man Apr 30 2014, 10:05 AM

Thanks for coming by yesterday as your car has come from the graveyard to where it is now is amazing !!! Keep it running and clean that thing everywhere you can until you're ready to paint it and that would be a sweet sled for sure. See you soon bud.


Scott

Posted by: smarens Apr 30 2014, 10:34 AM

went to his site, I don't see 914 stuff only 911, my interior is not much better than your started out as, ready for improvements like you did, congrads coming along very nice

Posted by: euro911 Apr 30 2014, 01:11 PM

A lot if his 914 stuff is on ebay: http://stores.ebay.com/Appbiz/_i.html?_nkw=914&submit=Search&_sid=20914867

Posted by: smarens Apr 30 2014, 01:28 PM

great thanks, emailed Bob, he emailed right back, going to call him to be sure of right ones, picts above look great

Posted by: Larmo63 Apr 30 2014, 08:27 PM

The carpet installation is like a puzzle. The piece behind the pedals, (pull the pedal board,) is first. Center tunnel and dead pedal next. Passenger foot board next, then the longs last. Take both seats and seat adjusters out, outside seat belt anchors, pull the e-brake, etc, just loose and out of the way. (This is a good time to clean and lube the e-brake center post) You should probably pull the back pad completely out too, but I left mine in. I'm doing Perlon behind the seats eventually. Take your time, I went pretty (too) fast. 3M #90 spray glue on both sides; car surfaces, and the backside of the carpet, (make sure, and double check it's the BACK side,) to ensure a good bond. I didn't cut out for the floor buttons, but I used heavy duty Velcro squares to keep the "floor mat" part of the carpet in place. Make sure you vacuum really well after the install, all kinds of stuff flies all over when you rustle things up in there! Good luck.

Posted by: Larmo63 May 3 2014, 07:31 PM

I have an idle issue now that the final vacuum hose is properly attached. How do I lower the idle? It's the mixture, but where is that located? I'm not familiar with FI. Car is still the 1.7 snail motor. I also lowered the front a bit today. Even though I like motor boats, 914s don't look good "motor boating" down the road.

Posted by: dw914six May 3 2014, 09:12 PM

man, I cannot believe you got this from a junk yard. Besides saving a teener, which is awesome, you landed an easy and inexpensive way into the car. That makes the experience more fun.

But this was a junk yard car??? Unreal.

Keep up the great restoration and cleanup. You will love this car. 914s are the best.

Posted by: Larmo63 May 3 2014, 10:47 PM

Thanks, ......anyone on how to lower the idle on a 1.7?

Posted by: KELTY360 May 3 2014, 11:09 PM

There's an adjusting screw on the throttle body and an idle adjustment knob on the ECU. Try the throttle body first.

You were crying the blues a couple of weeks ago...look at you now. Nice rescue!

Posted by: euro911 May 3 2014, 11:13 PM

Idle adjustment is the big screw on the throttle body

Posted by: Larmo63 May 4 2014, 12:14 AM

I can't see any screw that looks like an adjustment screw. The idle is at about 2K RPM and it only idles that high with the new airbox and the vacuum hose hooked up. What am I missing? Duh.

Posted by: euro911 May 4 2014, 01:25 AM

Posted by: Larmo63 May 4 2014, 12:21 PM

That screw is all but impossible to reach with the air box on and the air box is what makes it idle high. Any ideas?

Posted by: euro911 May 4 2014, 02:11 PM

You just have to thread your arm and hand back down in there. It can be done unless you have arms like Popeye

ca-cacacaca

Posted by: Larmo63 May 4 2014, 02:28 PM

It just doesn't seem very "German" to have the idle screw so deeply buried under there. Super hard to get to, let alone get a stubby screwdriver in there and on it. Oh, and a new problem, a puddle of brake fluid under the car...... Probably a good idea NOT to drive a car that has been "sitting" without thoroughly going through the brake system. That time is now. That's my next focus.

Posted by: euro911 May 4 2014, 08:34 PM

I thought dealing with the brakes was the first chore on everybody's list ... it's always been mine (ever since my first car lost it's brake fluid 45 years ago)

Posted by: mdelwiche May 4 2014, 10:32 PM

When I first got my 914 I was so excited to have it that I drove it all over and I just wanted it to look good. When I finally took a moment and actually inspected the brakes, I couldn't believe what I was driving on....won't do that again!

Posted by: boogie_man May 5 2014, 12:41 PM

as well as fuel lines throughout the car......my .02

Posted by: 914_teener May 5 2014, 01:18 PM

Check the rotors for wear as well........375 no less.

Call Eric Shea....no affiliation....just the fastest easiest thing to do.

Assuming your car is on D-jet....DONT change to carbs.

Get the car rolling safely....you got a good score. Check the swing arm bushings if you have to do the rear calipers as well.

Just my .02.....been there.

Posted by: Spoke May 5 2014, 03:01 PM

Idle at 2k is quite high even for the adjustment. Likely there is a vacuum leak somewhere.

Check the AAR valve (see it on the diagram on previous page). It lets air in when the engine is cold to keep the idle up and slowly closes as the engine warms. They are notorious for sticking open. Pull the hose from the air intake plenum and plug with your finger. It should drop the idle to 850 RPM.

Posted by: Larmo63 May 5 2014, 04:28 PM

That IS the hose I have plugged (for now) and the car idles right. Isn't it supposed to go into the top portion of the air cleaner/box? When I attach it there, the car runs much better, just idles too high. Even when warm.

Posted by: 914_teener May 5 2014, 05:53 PM

Go to Jeff Bowlsby site or the Bird site.....there are hose routing diagrams there......get your brakes fixed first.

Posted by: Larmo63 May 6 2014, 05:47 PM

Shifter parts all ordered...I ordered the trick Tangerine firewall bushing, bronze rear, everything else nylon. Master cylinder on the way and hoses. Safety first. Should be some fun weekend projects soon.....How do I check my transmission fluid level?

Posted by: AE354803 May 6 2014, 06:16 PM

Finger

http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/101_Projects_Porsche_911/36-Tranny_Fluid/36-Tranny_Fluid.htm

Posted by: euro911 May 6 2014, 10:56 PM

Did you get caliper rebuild kits and going to DIY?

Posted by: Larmo63 May 6 2014, 11:40 PM

I'm talking to Eric about the calipers, etc....

Posted by: euro911 May 7 2014, 03:12 AM

Posted by: Spoke May 7 2014, 12:58 PM

Sounds like your AAR is stuck open. With it open, the engine will idle high all the time. You need to fix the AAR or get a new one. Make sure the AAR wire is connected.

Posted by: boogie_man May 7 2014, 01:06 PM

If it hasn't been serviced lately or touched, change it asap before you need a new one......

Posted by: Larmo63 May 10 2014, 01:26 PM

After I replace all of the shift/linkage bushings, will there be any aditional adjustment needed? If so, is it adjusted at the shifter?

Posted by: bdstone914 May 10 2014, 01:47 PM

You should not have to adjust at the shifter from installing new bushings.
The lower part of the shifter should be vertical with the trans in nuetral.

Posted by: housepumpinpc May 11 2014, 02:22 PM

Hi. Whatever you do, rebuild your calipers...The previous owner of my 914 bought new front calipers and rotors(I tried to install them for him) and the passenger side caliper would not fit(tried quite a few) Turned out that he had a driver's side spindle on the passenger side(would have never thunk it). Two years later he found a caliper and had to modify the body so it would fit over the rotor(mr. dremel) The rotors were too large(still have them don't know what they go to). While you are at it, REPLACE ALL BRAKE LINES AND HOSES. Took me 2 months to do this after the calipers rotors were installed. Running the steel lines thru that shift tunnel(got scarred knuckles for my trouble) is a mother.

Posted by: Larmo63 May 11 2014, 06:32 PM

I'm paddling as fast as I can. Lots of stuff to do which doesn't "sexy" up the car. (it does make it a lot safer, but I digress,) These are the pitfalls of buying and putting a teener back on the road. Probably better off to buy a better condition one, but that wouldn't be as much fun.

Posted by: Philip W. May 12 2014, 06:23 AM

so true, i did the same thing, but have enjoyed the process, over the past 4 years. I recently finished the brakes and really was surprised how bad it was!!!- and messed up a brake line when removing it, so eventually realized the best thing was to replace all the hard lines and hose- after all, i had brand new calipers from eric, why would i not do the lines too- its really not that much $$ when you consider everything else - its not that hard, just time and now after about 6 months off the road its back on the road with a 5 lug conversion and all new brakes - but i now understand why some guys get a better condition one to drive while the "project" car is on and off- so enjoy the process! i do think your project has a better start than mine did, looks like the body is in pretty good shape. once you get these brakes done, enjoy it some before taking it to the next level. I need to do some rust repair, but that is not going to happen until after the Octeenerfest!- i missed last year and do not plan on missing this year!

Posted by: Larmo63 May 12 2014, 07:05 PM

My car is getting new soft brake lines and 19mm Master cylinder. I bought 180# rear springs, won't Bilsteins make the "street" ride pretty harsh? I need advice, my mechanic is saying Sachs or Boge shocks would work better. He thinks that the Sport or HD Bilstein will be too much. Advice?

Posted by: KELTY360 May 12 2014, 07:12 PM

Stock Boges work just fine for a street car IMO.

Posted by: Evil914 May 12 2014, 09:09 PM

Hell,took me months just to get mine up on the sacred jack stands

Posted by: Larmo63 May 17 2014, 11:29 AM

Master cylinder is in, brakes are fine and safe for now. Since I put on a stock muffler, the car is backfiring at the heads because of cracked HEs. I have a better set to put on the car, do 914 people usually Jet-Coat these?

All new shifter bushings will be my project for today.

Posted by: 914_teener May 17 2014, 11:35 AM

If you are just streeting the car, I would just put the Boge's on.

Posted by: Larmo63 May 17 2014, 01:23 PM

Lol, just a thought: someone should build and market "Official Porsche 914" jack stands.

Posted by: Larmo63 May 17 2014, 06:58 PM

Installed Tangerine firewall shifter bearing. Installed both rear side shift bearings; cup was easy and bronze rod bearing was also easy but I made the mistake of putting it in backward, so transmission wouldn't shift into 1st, 3rd, 5th. Okay, so take it all apart again and change it right? Nope. I COULD NOT get the front shaft back apart so I took the rear coupler back off and slid the old bad guide back in. (Maybe I overtightened it?) I'll revisit this at another time when I have a bit more patience (grrrrr)

914s can be so frustrating, and working under the car on the garage floor with it on jack stands isn't the easiest thing. The Blues......

Posted by: JamesM May 17 2014, 09:52 PM

Go with the Bilsteins, not harsh (KYBs are harsh), Bilsteins just make the car feel glued to the road. If you are worried about ride the 180lb springs might have been a bit much. Tire selection will probably have the most to do with the ride quality.

-James

Posted by: Larmo63 May 18 2014, 09:36 AM

I'm running 205/65 x 15 Yokohamas. I like how a taller tire fills the wheel wells.

Posted by: Larmo63 May 18 2014, 07:50 PM

Okay, newbie question #334....How is the parking brake adjustment made? In the cables, or on the rear brakes themselves? Is there an adjustment hole on the rears?

Sorry, I just don't know.....

Posted by: colingreene May 19 2014, 01:34 AM

I think this might help

http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/914_brake_pads/914_brake_pads.htm

Posted by: Larmo63 May 29 2014, 05:51 PM

I decided that this car is not going to ever be a concours car or really original, so I'm thinking more GT style. I had a crappy back pad that should have come out when I did the carpet kit, but I was too chicken to go all the way at that point. I forgot too, that it's MY car. (And I can do whatever I want to it) Anyway, I've seen a few cars done with the Perlon on the firewall so I decided to do it today. (Carpet is an eBay item, Rennspeed) Here are some pics of the install:

Tear out old POS worn out, taped up, sun cracked back pad and rubber mat. These pieces weigh a ton.....

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2445_zps3162b243.jpg.html
Scrape, clean, and vacuum...

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2491_zps2921cd6c.jpg.html

Mask areas that you don't want contact glue to get on...I use 3M #90 in a spray can for these installations..... http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2492_zps4b0cca85.jpg.html

Posted by: Larmo63 May 29 2014, 05:59 PM

Next, when I have pre-fit it and made some marks to line up and mental notes on fitment, I start carefully with the spray glue, obviously on the middle hump to center it. I spray the firewall AND the carpet, and it adheres like a champ. I worked my way out to the door edges. TAKE YOUR TIME!!!! (I always work too fast, I need to go de-caf next install...geez....)

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2493_zps85f2aaeb.jpg.html

This is a good time to detail all the parts that have to come out such as seat belts, B pillars, etc...I just got a good used set of pillar covers from Bruce yesterday, and I detail everything as it goes back in the car. My seatbelts work WAY better after cleaning and PB Blasting, carefully. Final product:

http://s983.photobucket.com/user/Larmo63/media/IMG_2494_zps3ba7f6fc.jpg.html

Posted by: 76-914 May 29 2014, 06:55 PM

Nice job.

Posted by: euro911 May 29 2014, 09:19 PM

Awesome. Looks like maybe you had to make a couple of cuts in the middle? ... or is the center portion another piece you cut and glued in afterward?

I tried fitting up some tan perlon carpet last year and couldn't get it to cooperate ... (I didn't cut anything though).

Posted by: Larmo63 May 29 2014, 10:15 PM

Carpet came from Rennspeed in Duarte, Ca....eBay purchase.

It comes already sewn to fit the hump and the corners...........

Posted by: ndfrigi Jan 21 2015, 09:15 PM

Hi Lawrence, Any update of your car for this thread of yours?

Posted by: Socalandy Jan 22 2015, 12:10 AM

What he said

Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 22 2015, 12:36 AM

Yes, there has been a lot of buying going on. 6 x 15 Fuchs, 914-6 rear hubs/stubs, PC trailing arms, all front 911 suspension, 2056 engine built...

Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 22 2015, 12:38 AM

Building a new engine…...

Posted by: Socalandy Jan 22 2015, 12:47 AM

Cool, You'll like it from what you were running before. I did a 2056 in my 72 with 44 webers

Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 22 2015, 12:47 AM

I've done so many small projects on the car too, the 1.7 is running pretty good right now. I like to drive my car, and not have it in the garage on jack(ass)stands. I'm going to do the suspension stuff first, then the motor/transmission. That is the plan of attack. I have all the stock style sway bars ready to install too, and all I need is time,a few more parts, help from Colin, (ahh-hemmm) and a few weekends to do the suspension. Bruce Stone has been a great asset and friend.

At this time last year, I knew nothing about 914s. Funny, I saw a kid stop at the gas station while I was gassing up one day and we talked about his car. He wanted $3K for it. A month later, March 2, 2014, I bought this yellow '73 1.7.

I'm geeked on it.

Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 22 2015, 08:05 PM

I need torque values for oil cooler, fan shroud, and fan….anybody?

Posted by: euro911 Jan 23 2015, 12:34 AM

This should help

Metric Bolt Torque Table. Estimated with clamp load as 75% of proof load as specified in ISO 898-1 http://www.cncexpo.com/MetricBoltTorque.aspx

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 23 2015, 11:18 AM

From the factory manual:

Cooling blower impeller bolts: M8; 19.6 NM, 2.0 mkg, 14.5 lb-ft
Bolt for blower impeller hub: M8; 31.4 NM, 3.2 mkg, 23.1 lb-ft

The oil cooler studs are M6, and the cooler is relatively fragile. I wouldn't go over 10 lb-ft for those. Probably more like 8 lb-ft, actually.

The fan shroud retaining studs I recall being M8, so I'd say about 15 lb-ft. The bolts (? screws?) that hold the fan shroud together I think were M6, so about 10 lb-ft for those.

--DD

Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 23 2015, 11:51 AM

Thanks guys. I found a few of these online too. Putting the engine back together again is a bit of a puzzle.

Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 24 2015, 06:32 PM

Constructed my engine and put the tin on and……



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Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 24 2015, 06:33 PM

I think I have it figured out now…..



Lawrence

Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 24 2015, 06:37 PM

Posted by: 914bub Jan 24 2015, 08:12 PM

OT but any pics of the Harley? Looks like black plates. Must be old n cool.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 24 2015, 08:28 PM

Nice!

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 24 2015, 08:44 PM

Did you get the oil cooler support on without taking the tin back off?

--DD

Posted by: euro911 Jan 24 2015, 11:29 PM

I was just gonna say

Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 25 2015, 12:23 AM

Left side tin came back off. Bracket on.

Why doesn't my back tin fit down snugly on the bell housing? Are there two different styles? The two clips that are supposed to "clip" onto it are sitting proud of it now. Weird.

What do people use for a too short thermostat wire? Anybody got one for me?

I'm not running heat, does anybody make block-off tin plates for the heater hose openings?

Posted by: euro911 Jan 25 2015, 08:29 AM

The rear tin just fit that way ... You just have to get it to fit the best you can.

I use some rubber tubing caps if not running heater hoses.