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Posted by: DMCF1Fast May 3 2014, 09:51 PM

Hello, My name is David. I've been a member here for a while but don't post as much as I should. I do love this board and have gotten a ton of info from it. I have bought parts and items from members numerous times and I've never had a problem. But now its seems I've been taken to the cleaners by a seller on this board and wanted to let people know so it doesn't happen to them. The seller goes by SpecialInt and his first name is Courtney. I purchased a prior member's (Welby's, (RIP) transmission from SpecialInt on Feb 8th and he received my $625.00 on Feb 19th. I was very excited to be getting a box that had been redone in one of Dr. Evils transmissions clinics and Courtney had forwarded me the emails from Dr. Evil where they confirmed the box had been rebuilt in the clinic. That was however the end of my excitment. After waiting through the snowstorms of the northeast I finally received my long awaited new transmission on March 4th. I opened the packaging and got a hugh letdown. I received the worst looking 901 box I have ever seen plus the shift console was crushed. It was caked in 40 years of oil and grease. The bolts looked to never have been cracked (actually really couldn't see the bolts through the grime). I immediately contacted Courtney and he said he shipped me the wrong one and his brother had received mine? He said he would fix it. He said his brother would ship me mine. It never happened. Then he said the his brother had shipped it back to him and he would ship it back to me. That didn't happen. He said it shipped but then sent a tracking # with no associated package info. Then he said it was lost by UPS. Now its April. I ask for a refund and it's sure np but he tells me he's out numerous shipping expenses. I say fine just give me $550.00 instead of $625.00. Is it my fault he shipped my box to his brother? He asked if I wanted the crappy core he sent me. I said no and would gladly ship it back if he pays. He says keep it but I don't want another core I already have 3. I wanted the box I bought (Welbys, Dr. Evil Clinic rebuilt box). Now he says he sent my refund on 4/11 but of course I didn't get anything from him and he no longer responds to my PMs. Looks like I'm out my $625.00. I wanted to let everyone know to be very careful dealing with this guy. I should have known better than to deal with someone that only deals in MOs or Personal Checks. Live and learn, but it was an expensive lesson for me. I asked my wife for more money to buy a different box. I got a really nice look from her.

Posted by: Qarl May 3 2014, 09:56 PM

Yep, he's been banned on Pelican as well.

Sounds like a lowlife and a scammer.

File a police report in his town.

Sorry you got taken.

Karl

Posted by: 396 May 3 2014, 11:38 PM

Sorry to hear about your dealing with this looser. Maybe you can look up folks that supported him when the name was being questioned for assistance. But then, maybe they finally figure that he is a low life and don't even want to be associated with Special int!

Posted by: bulitt May 4 2014, 03:06 AM

Over on the Bird-

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-914-used-parts-sale-wanted/808214-specialint.html

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Posted by: Big Len May 4 2014, 04:17 AM

David - I posted a warning in February on this guy in the classified section. In spite of this, a few members came to his defense and after a week or so, admin. took the thread down.

I said it will happen again and unfortunately, it has happened to you. As bulitt stated, he is banned on Pelican. I was ripped off as well. I think the evidence is clear enough to condemn this clown from this site.

Here's another - http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/798310-bad-seller-what-can-i-do.html

Perhaps there are local World members in the Balitmore area to pay a visit to Courtney to "set him straight" and get your money back.

Posted by: 76-914 May 4 2014, 05:45 AM

If it walks like a duck, quack's like a duck...........................

Posted by: DMCF1Fast May 4 2014, 06:45 AM

QUOTE(76-914 @ May 4 2014, 03:45 AM) *

If it walks like a duck, quack's like a duck...........................


Yes, I should have been more skeptical when he only takes MOs and personal checks. I have had great luck in the past buying cars and parts online so I let my guard down. Thing is the guy is so polite and apologetic, he was always promising to fix the situation and thanking me for my patience. Just stringing me along.

Posted by: SLITS May 4 2014, 06:50 AM

Is it time for a visit from the "World Enforcement Group"?

This seems to be happening more on all sites.

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 4 2014, 06:50 AM

I hate people who take advantage of our members. This POS "SpecialInt" needs to be banned from our site for ever. Additionally, I hope a police report is filed and he is charged with fraud by the local DA where he lives. May he also receive some street justice too - please.

Posted by: r_towle May 4 2014, 06:52 AM

What state does he live in?
I thought if enough police reports are files, the police eventually pay a person like this a visit?

Posted by: Qarl May 4 2014, 06:52 AM

2 people (both with somewhat low post counts) said he was a stand-up guy in the thread about back pad lights.

Puffinator
rmdinmd

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=233923


Might want to question them about their experience with the guy, his whereabouts and more info of his location.

Here is the 4-1-1 on this dickwad...

From posts on this forum and Pelican, his name is Courtney Hegler


Zabasearch.com
website (Publicly available info) shows the following address/phone/age...

http://www.zabasearch.com/people/courtney+k+hegler/rockville+md/871642830

(I think a better address is in the next section below)

Courtney K Hegler
15315 Diamond Cove Ter #4
Rockville, MD 20850

Phone: (301) 963-1518

Cannot confirm (from zabasearch) that this is current and valid.


Montgomery County Clerk of Courts

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/processDisclaimer.jis

Just enter his last, first name...


Most recent case shows a confirmed address as of 09/27/2013

15728 BRADFORD RD
SILVER SPRING MD 20906-1046


A google search shows he has SCAMMED other sites

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Courtney+hegler%22+scam&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS571US571&oq=%22Courtney+hegler%22+scam&aqs=chrome..69i57.3404j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8


Address referenced in one of the links (matches court case above)


15728 Bradford Road, Silver Spring, Maryland 20906

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=159491


White pages search...

http://www.whitepages.com/name/Courtney-Hegler/Maryland



Intellius shows he works/worked at Sport Automotive in Silver Spring

http://www.intelius.com/people/Courtney-Hegler/0ct7bnrth55

http://www.sportautomotive.com/



Other address/phone records


http://radaris.com/p/Courtney/Hegler/

Courtney Hegler 15728 Bradford, Silver Spring, MD 20906 (301) 924-0707

Courtney K Hegler 15315 Diamond Cove Ter, Rockville, MD 20850 (301) 963-1518

Courtney Hegler, Courtney K Hegler 10613 Weymouth St, Bethesda, MD 20814 (301) 897-8055

Courtney K Hegler 18420 Nh Ave, Ashton, MD 20861 (410) 924-7016, (301) 924-7016, (301) 774-2097

Courtney K Hegler 18420 Nh, Ashton, MD 20861 (301) 774-2097, (301) 924-7016, (410) 924-7016

Courtney K Hegler, Courtney B Hegler 18420 New Hampshire Ave, Ashton, MD 20861 (410) 924-7017, (301) 916-6388, (301) 924-7017, (301) 774-5779, (301) 924-7016

Courtney Hegler 15315 diamond cove ter apt 4, Rockville, MD 20850 (301) 963-****


From his wife's publicly available Facebook page...

(I assume this is the dickwad)

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Posted by: Qarl May 4 2014, 06:58 AM

Let the above serve as a reminder on HOW MUCH info is available about you on the internet, publicly.


Posted by: DMCF1Fast May 4 2014, 07:05 AM

QUOTE(Qarl @ May 4 2014, 04:58 AM) *

Let the above serve as a reminder on HOW MUCH info is available about you on the internet, publicly.


Wow, that's a lot of info, he has quite a history taking advantage of people. I used a USPS MO. I'm going to file a complaint with them first. Of course it was made out to his wife., probably another one of his tactics.

Posted by: Qarl May 4 2014, 07:25 AM

Added some more info...

Montgomery County Clerk of Courts... search by his name and find out more info on this scumbag.

Posted by: r_towle May 4 2014, 07:32 AM

QUOTE(DMCF1Fast @ May 4 2014, 09:05 AM) *

QUOTE(Qarl @ May 4 2014, 04:58 AM) *

Let the above serve as a reminder on HOW MUCH info is available about you on the internet, publicly.


Wow, that's a lot of info, he has quite a history taking advantage of people. I used a USPS MO. I'm going to file a complaint with them first. Of course it was made out to his wife., probably another one of his tactics.

No offense meant here...

But REALLY???

Postal money orders are the first sign you will get screwed and have no course of action.
Made out to anyone but the seller is sign number two.

Sign number three is that for 650 bucks, you won't get a rebuilt transmission...at least not one that had anything done to it aside from looking at it.

Classic example of getting such a great deal on something....yet not

At least with a personal check you have proof of payment.
You can use a personal check in court...
A money order is cash with no receipt.....

Posted by: puffinator May 4 2014, 07:39 AM

I went to his house in MD and cut off a few body pieces off a 914 he had. He has quite a stash of 914 parts at his house and I believe he was at Hershey selling stuff. I bought a few things from him and he let me have the body parts for free. I thought he was a pretty stand up guy. He treated me fairly.

I am sorry others have not been so lucky sad.gif

Posted by: DMCF1Fast May 4 2014, 07:43 AM

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 4 2014, 05:32 AM) *

QUOTE(DMCF1Fast @ May 4 2014, 09:05 AM) *

QUOTE(Qarl @ May 4 2014, 04:58 AM) *

Let the above serve as a reminder on HOW MUCH info is available about you on the internet, publicly.


Wow, that's a lot of info, he has quite a history taking advantage of people. I used a USPS MO. I'm going to file a complaint with them first. Of course it was made out to his wife., probably another one of his tactics.

No offense meant here...

But REALLY???

Postal money orders are the first sign you will get screwed and have no course of action.
Made out to anyone but the seller is sign number two.

Sign number three is that for 650 bucks, you won't get a rebuilt transmission...at least not one that had anything done to it aside from looking at it.

Classic example of getting such a great deal on something....yet not

At least with a personal check you have proof of payment.
You can use a personal check in court...
A money order is cash with no receipt.....



Yup, I made a few mistakes, I assumed he was trust worthy partly because he had sold other items on the World. I accept that there's a 99.9% chance I lost my money but just wanted others to know about this guy. I saw he was still selling items on here a few weeks back.

Posted by: Qarl May 4 2014, 07:53 AM

QUOTE(puffinator @ May 4 2014, 09:39 AM) *

I went to his house in MD and cut off a few body pieces off a 914 he had. He has quite a stash of 914 parts at his house and I believe he was at Hershey selling stuff. I bought a few things from him and he let me have the body parts for free. I thought he was a pretty stand up guy. He treated me fairly.

I am sorry others have not been so lucky sad.gif



Thanks puff. Luckily you did a face to face.


Posted by: TJB/914 May 4 2014, 08:09 AM

QUOTE(Qarl @ May 4 2014, 09:25 AM) *

Added some more info...

Montgomery County Clerk of Courts... search by his name and find out more info on this scumbag.


Back in February 2014 I was lucky to get an AC console from Courtney Hegler but went through many steps to complete the process. He still owes me a part that was left out. I reported recently on another victim's postings my dealing with Courtney and his many complexities. What a disappointment to the human race, he will end up in jail ruining his life forever.
I sent my money to his wife at,
Katherine Hegler
21110 Georgia Ave
Brookville, MD 20833



Posted by: rmdinmd May 4 2014, 01:21 PM

Like puffinator I also went to his house and got a door from him. He seemed to be ok to me But now it is looking like I was wrong. sad.gif

The address at 21110 Georgia ave Brookville, Md is the one he gave me to meet him so I would assume that is his address.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 4 2014, 01:54 PM

the assertion that a seller asking for a postal money order is "the first sign you will get screwed and have no course of action" is absurd.

a 'top tip'…postal money orders come with a detachable portion THAT THE PURCHASER IS SUPPOSED TO FILL OUT AND THAT PORTION IS TO BE KEPT FOR THEIR RECORDS. i would presume that the beef could be made against the mo recipient. possible interstate mail fraud? conspiracy to commit i.m.f? contact your local postmaster. the USPS employs people that do investigations. track down the person the the check was made out to. let them know you're about to unleash a shit storm on them and to expect a knock on the door.

that the part seller asked that the mo to be made out to a 3rd party is a definite walk away.

Posted by: messix May 4 2014, 02:06 PM

just a thought....

would it be possible to do a "bucket brigade" to get the "good" tranny from Md to Texas?

do we have enough guys that it would be something like a 100 mile run for each leg?

and by the way a 901 fits in the front trunk just fine so it could be a fun teener run!

Posted by: mepstein May 4 2014, 02:10 PM

QUOTE(messix @ May 4 2014, 04:06 PM) *

just a thought....

would it be possible to do a "bucket brigade" to get the "good" tranny from Md to Texas?

do we have enough guys that it would be something like a 100 mile run for each leg?

and by the way a 901 fits in the front trunk just fine so it could be a fun teener run!


That would be assuming there really is a tranny and the "seller" is willing to give it up. But I'm in if I can help. I will be heading down to NC later in the summer. I could pick up the trans before then if it is truly available.

Posted by: Qarl May 4 2014, 03:13 PM

We dont know if it still is in Maryland. Poster said seller claims to have shipped it to his brother.

Posted by: r_towle May 4 2014, 03:26 PM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ May 4 2014, 03:54 PM) *

the assertion that a seller asking for a postal money order is "the first sign you will get screwed and have no course of action" is absurd.


Dont spread this false information.
For anything small, like $650 dollars, there is no chance that any investigation will happen.

It is a very risk way to pass money, just as risky as mailing cash, or western union.
There is no audit trail...

If you have personal experience using this supposed system, please share the details.

Until I hear anything new, a postal money order is just like cash, with no chance to chase anyone down, and no investigation will happen.

Its just about as useful as the postal service tracking system....which is useless.

rich

Posted by: Krieger May 4 2014, 05:12 PM

QUOTE(puffinator @ May 4 2014, 06:39 AM) *

I went to his house in MD and cut off a few body pieces off a 914 he had. He has quite a stash of 914 parts at his house and I believe he was at Hershey selling stuff. I bought a few things from him and he let me have the body parts for free. I thought he was a pretty stand up guy. He treated me fairly.

I am sorry others have not been so lucky sad.gif



I wonder if that was his car? Maybe his neighbors...scuzball

Posted by: scotty b May 4 2014, 06:40 PM

I've seen several of these threads on different forums, and have kept quiet as I have no dog in this hunt BUT what I have seen is this.

Courtney has a great rep with the local guys that can drive to his house and pick up the parts. He seems to be a nice honest guy with a lot of parts, BUT he has a horrible rep from the people out of the area that depend on him to ship the product. Take this as you will, but it seems to me he may be a good guy, that doesn't have the time, organizational skills etc. he needs to deal with the shipping of items. This doesn't excuse the fact he fails at that end of it, but I just can't sit here and see someone called a scumbag and dirtball by those who only see one side of his selling practices, when there are others that have zero problems with him confused24.gif

Posted by: bdstone914 May 4 2014, 06:56 PM

I tend to agree with Scotty. My only contact with him was that I got some free 911 eccentric bolts for free if I paid $5 shipping by check. I got them and asked for his address which I never got a reply. Looks like he does does not have his act together to sell parts.
No need for name calling or labeling. Just state the facts.

Posted by: mepstein May 4 2014, 06:57 PM

QUOTE(scotty b @ May 4 2014, 08:40 PM) *

I've seen several of these threads on different forums, and have kept quiet as I have no dog in this hunt BUT what I have seen is this.

Courtney has a great rep with the local guys that can drive to his house and pick up the parts. He seems to be a nice honest guy with a lot of parts, BUT he has a horrible rep from the people out of the area that depend on him to ship the product. Take this as you will, but it seems to me he may be a good guy, that doesn't have the time, organizational skills etc. he needs to deal with the shipping of items. This doesn't excuse the fact he fails at that end of it, but I just can't sit here and see someone called a scumbag and dirtball by those who only see one side of his selling practices, when there are others that have zero problems with him confused24.gif

Then he needs to man up and refund the money to people he promised to ship parts to. It doesn't sound like the people who are getting scammed have given up trying to get their parts or their money. Look at the posts from other car and rc sites. He's a serial scammer. It's all on Courtney and so far he's failed.

Posted by: Qarl May 4 2014, 06:59 PM

I disagree. He is a dishonest person, as shown here, on Pelican, and several other non-car forums.

He has sold items to people (non-local) multiple times to the tune of several thousands of dollars. With no follow-thru and refunds.

That is the definition of a scumbag and dickwad, IMHO. Ask the people he has scammed out of hundreds of dollars (multiple times), if they think he's probably a nice guy.

If you can't execute a sale on a item that requires shipping, then don't offer it for sale, period.

Or the words, "Local Pickup Only" are VERY easy to type in an for sale ad.

Posted by: Big Len May 4 2014, 08:12 PM

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ May 4 2014, 08:56 PM) *

I tend to agree with Scotty. My only contact with him was that I got some free 911 eccentric bolts for free if I paid $5 shipping by check. I got them and asked for his address which I never got a reply. Looks like he does does not have his act together to sell parts.
No need for name calling or labeling. Just state the facts.



And also to Scotty - You don't have a dog in the race?....So honesty isn't something you care about? If he's a part time scumbag, that's ok?

He has ripped off people a number of times across a multitude of forums. To say that he is an honest guy who is "disorganized" or "does not have his act together" is patently absurd.

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 4 2014, 09:59 PM

Where there is smoke there is usually fire. Here we have a dickwad who has apparently fraudulently duped many of our people. For me the verdict is in - guilty as charged. Sentence? Run out of town for good on a rail after a serious ass beating.

Posted by: puffinator May 5 2014, 06:32 AM

In my opinion,this guy, Courtney, is not the names being thrown around on this site. He has a pretty good reputation in the DC/MD/VA area and recently organized a joint Hershey Swap Meet group of spaces for DC/MD/VA Porsche folks. Check out the Dorkiphus.net website and his name is “slowisfast” and look at the kudos he received for setting up the Hershey activity.

As I and others have said, he has treated us locals fairly. I picked up a transmission at Courtney’s place for Mike (DrEvil) and hauled it down to DrEvil’s clinic at Scott’s place in Feb although I don’t know who that one was for. I have a feeling Courtney will make good on any deal he has made and think he may be just a bit overwhelmed. Give him a bit more time. He has a bunch of stuff and a bunch of cars at his place – kind of an eclectic mix.

Posted by: scotty b May 5 2014, 07:24 AM

QUOTE(puffinator @ May 5 2014, 04:32 AM) *

In my opinion,this guy, Courtney, is not the names being thrown around on this site. He has a pretty good reputation in the DC/MD/VA area and recently organized a joint Hershey Swap Meet group of spaces for DC/MD/VA Porsche folks. Check out the Dorkiphus.net website and his name is “slowisfast” and look at the kudos he received for setting up the Hershey activity.

As I and others have said, he has treated us locals fairly. I picked up a transmission at Courtney’s place for Mike (DrEvil) and hauled it down to DrEvil’s clinic at Scott’s place in Feb although I don’t know who that one was for. I have a feeling Courtney will make good on any deal he has made and think he may be just a bit overwhelmed. Give him a bit more time. He has a bunch of stuff and a bunch of cars at his place – kind of an eclectic mix.

Prepare to be called names now Rob rolleyes.gif

Posted by: 396 May 5 2014, 07:25 AM

Again, I have no skin in this, but based on some of the comments, it's ok to receive payment and string the purchaser along and it's ok... Please remind me never to buy anything from you. "Social Responsibility " just went out the door!

Posted by: puffinator May 5 2014, 07:53 AM

Scott is right, I should stay out of these pissing contests. But I’ll see if I can’t contact Courtney and assist in straightening this mess out.

Posted by: Moneypit May 5 2014, 08:08 AM

Are you guys 100% certain the identified dude above is really the one you're after? You guys realize identity theft is pretty easy, it wouldn't take much for someone with basic skills to get your email login, search through and find those passwords you stupidly saved in a .doc, and have access to all your personal info. Then they can just create email and forum accounts with your info, register P.O. boxes or whatever and have you mail stuff to bum addresses, and steal your $$$ or parts. I'm just saying before you go to a guy's house with torches and pitchforks, or better yet lawyers, be certain you have the right target.


Or the guy could legitimately be a dirtbag who uses his own names and addresses to scam people.

*** I've seen the kinds of stupid things people save in their Yahoo mail while I was investigating security incidents. For the love of Mike, don't save passwords and personal info in your damn webmail!!!!! ***

Posted by: Dr Evil May 5 2014, 08:29 AM

I am at work so have not had time to read through all the posts yet, but to the OP: Contact me. I would be glad to help you be whole for little or no money. The main thing I am interested in is your car on the road with a good transmission that I built. That was what you were expecting, lets make it happen.

Posted by: Dr Evil May 5 2014, 09:29 AM

Hey Mustache, for $650 it is absolutely possible to have your box more than looked at. My clinic is $300 and parts often land you around this price depending on what needs to be replaced.

As for my limited experience with this seller (just facts), he contacted me about Welby's transmission to verify that it was infect rebuilt at one of my clinics and so he could verify it and sell it correctly. I had him check a few things and verified it was what he was told it was. Then I asked if he had any cores and he offered me one for $75 for my time in helping with Welby's transmission ID. After he heard that Teener Tim had his stash or parts stolen including the transmission that was due to be done at my last VA clinic, he gave me the transmission so that I may give it to Tim, which I did. Puffinator was kind enough to pick it up while he was there getting other stuff.

Draw what you will from the above. It is what it is. I am will be trying to contact him in the near future when I have a day to drive there and get some cores from him if I can scoop up his stash for a good price as I am in dire need of cores. I would shy away from deals that require shipping given the history posted above, but I also will not call names based on the same.

Posted by: r_towle May 5 2014, 09:49 AM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ May 5 2014, 11:29 AM) *

Hey Mustache, for $650 it is absolutely possible to have your box more than looked at. My clinic is $300 and parts often land you around this price depending on what needs to be replaced.



Mike,

I know you are using the name Mustache with all the love you can.

I am just stating that with one bearing front or rear costing $240 or more...
A first gear sleeve alone costing $450 bucks....

A $650 transmission is not rebuilt.
It may have been checked, but the parts alone to rebuild a transmission, with new bearings and gaskets would far exceed the $650 dollar amount he is selling it for.

Let alone $300 bucks for the clinic.
So he had at best $350 bucks in new parts.
Then the core is free and he makes no money on the part at all.

So, the seller was not selling a rebuilt transmission.

The math just does not add up to me...

And the point was not to point at you, it was to point out that this is a classic example of getting something for such a GREAT price, he may have wanted to look a bit deeper...

Don,t take it personal or get defensive...its just the math that should make anyone question a deal like that....that was the point, dont twist it into something its not.

Its a shame these things happen and I hope people would look at super deals like a 650 dollar rebuilt transmission the same way they would look at a $1500 dollar rebuilt engine...it may be real...but its probably not.

Not sure how it was represented, and maybe it was represented as being inspected, verified by you (as an expert) that the parts are all in working order.

For me, the term rebuilt means rebuilt.

Rich

Posted by: Dr Evil May 5 2014, 10:11 AM

Rebuilt means something different to you. If you want all parts changed that do not need them, you go right ahead. I believe I speak with some authority, and have been involved from the beginning with this particular transmission, before the original owner died. You are wrong. Your assertion is wrong. At best, it is a difference in opinion of what is needed to be done to a transmission and what constitutes rebuilt. That is a discussion for another post as the box was not touted as having all new parts. My methods and practices are transparent, well known, and the box was not misrepresented in level of finish nor price.

A blanket statement of, " you won't get a rebuilt transmission...at least not one that had anything done to it aside from looking at it." is fucking retarded.

Posted by: Spoke May 5 2014, 11:00 AM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ May 5 2014, 10:29 AM) *

I am at work so have not had time to read through all the posts yet, but to the OP: Contact me. I would be glad to help you be whole for little or no money. The main thing I am interested in is your car on the road with a good transmission that I built. That was what you were expecting, lets make it happen.


This is what you expect from a stand-up guy.

You're the man, Doc. beerchug.gif

This Courtney dude is a scumbag. Period

To say he's ok because he treated those who showed up at his house or put some event together but screwed those on the web is bullshit. bs.gif

You are either reputable or not. There's no in between.

Along these lines, I never deal with anyone with low post counts.

Once I bought a complete 5-lug suspension off Ebay for $450. I told the guy I will send no money but will show up at his house with cash. I got to his house, loaded the goods into the trunk and handed him 9 $50s.

Posted by: smarens May 5 2014, 11:00 AM

-I have absolutely no skin in this one at all but have some thoughts

-there is an implied contractual obligation for this transaction and most likely some type of written correspondence to concur, the problem may be what was really "owed" to the buyer, if there was not exact details supplied "rebuilt" can mean anything

-I love the idea of 100 mile relay to get him a trans and get him back on the road, way cool count me in if it is within a couple of hours of coming past my way

Posted by: Qarl May 5 2014, 11:23 AM

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 5 2014, 11:49 AM) *

A $650 transmission is not rebuilt...

...The math just does not add up to me...



A rebuilt Type 4 motor and a rebuilt 911 motor do not have all new parts.

Parts are replaced on an "as needed" basis in an Evil rebuild.

Parts that can be re-used usually are. Good used parts from another donor tranny can be substitute without the expense of buying new and to save expense.






Posted by: r_towle May 5 2014, 11:48 AM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ May 5 2014, 12:11 PM) *

Rebuilt means something different to you. If you want all parts changed that do not need them, you go right ahead. I believe I speak with some authority, and have been involved from the beginning with this particular transmission, before the original owner died. You are wrong. Your assertion is wrong. At best, it is a difference in opinion of what is needed to be done to a transmission and what constitutes rebuilt. That is a discussion for another post as the box was not touted as having all new parts. My methods and practices are transparent, well known, and the box was not misrepresented in level of finish nor price.

A blanket statement of, " you won't get a rebuilt transmission...at least not one that had anything done to it aside from looking at it." is fucking retarded.

Again,

Point was that when something sounds to good to be true, it probably is.

And for those of us that matter, its Hegna.

rich

Posted by: rmital May 5 2014, 12:03 PM

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 5 2014, 01:48 PM) *

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ May 5 2014, 12:11 PM) *

Rebuilt means something different to you. If you want all parts changed that do not need them, you go right ahead. I believe I speak with some authority, and have been involved from the beginning with this particular transmission, before the original owner died. You are wrong. Your assertion is wrong. At best, it is a difference in opinion of what is needed to be done to a transmission and what constitutes rebuilt. That is a discussion for another post as the box was not touted as having all new parts. My methods and practices are transparent, well known, and the box was not misrepresented in level of finish nor price.

A blanket statement of, " you won't get a rebuilt transmission...at least not one that had anything done to it aside from looking at it." is fucking retarded.

Again,

Point was that when something sounds to good to be true, it probably is.

And for those of us that matter, its Hegna.

rich

Who would have thought MA has their own word for retard (Hegna)!

Posted by: DMCF1Fast May 5 2014, 04:39 PM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ May 5 2014, 06:29 AM) *

I am at work so have not had time to read through all the posts yet, but to the OP: Contact me. I would be glad to help you be whole for little or no money. The main thing I am interested in is your car on the road with a good transmission that I built. That was what you were expecting, lets make it happen.


Thanks Dr Evil I will PM you. Also thank you to the rest of the members that took an interest in my dilemma. Another member has also graciously offered to help me out. I truly feel lucky to be part of such a great community!

Sincerely,
David

Posted by: worn May 5 2014, 05:35 PM

QUOTE(scotty b @ May 5 2014, 05:24 AM) *

QUOTE(puffinator @ May 5 2014, 04:32 AM) *

In my opinion,this guy, Courtney, is not the names being thrown around on this site. He has a pretty good reputation in the DC/MD/VA area and recently organized a joint Hershey Swap Meet group of spaces for DC/MD/VA Porsche folks. Check out the Dorkiphus.net website and his name is “slowisfast” and look at the kudos he received for setting up the Hershey activity.

As I and others have said, he has treated us locals fairly. I picked up a transmission at Courtney’s place for Mike (DrEvil) and hauled it down to DrEvil’s clinic at Scott’s place in Feb although I don’t know who that one was for. I have a feeling Courtney will make good on any deal he has made and think he may be just a bit overwhelmed. Give him a bit more time. He has a bunch of stuff and a bunch of cars at his place – kind of an eclectic mix.

Prepare to be called names now Rob rolleyes.gif


Actually, i lost money to someone just like Scotty describes. Otherwise ok, but not up to holding their end when it counted. Why i only buy, not sell...

You could see that isno excuse,except it is exactly that. An excuse. That is a lot of money and cover tactics.

Posted by: dw914six May 5 2014, 09:08 PM

QUOTE(DMCF1Fast @ May 5 2014, 02:39 PM) *

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ May 5 2014, 06:29 AM) *

I am at work so have not had time to read through all the posts yet, but to the OP: Contact me. I would be glad to help you be whole for little or no money. The main thing I am interested in is your car on the road with a good transmission that I built. That was what you were expecting, lets make it happen.


Thanks Dr Evil I will PM you. Also thank you to the rest of the members that took an interest in my dilemma. Another member has also graciously offered to help me out. I truly feel lucky to be part of such a great community!

Sincerely,
David

agree.gif although as we all see, even this group of friends can get sideways on emotional discussions. This discussion is really now a debate regarding what constitutes a rebuilt 901 (or any motor or part for that matter) and what behavior earns the title of scumbag (and a few others I have forgotten).

My guess; the $650 is painful but not the elephant in the room.

Being professionally ignored after an agreement pisses off anyone. mad.gif Not getting the product is simply put, theft.

To enter into an agreement to deliver a 901 for a fee, receive the payment and then refuse to send the product is impossible to overlook in any way but purposively dishonest behavior. Is the guy a scumbag? I don't know him....but....(and the only debate to me) his business transactions which require out of area shipping create a final solution which is dishonest and probably illegal. So regardless of his intentions....(intentions are a small part of a person, actions and results make the man)......he delivers a really terrible experience...if....everything that has been reported is true.

And Doc, when you finally do your Texas clinic, let me know. I have other 914s and another 914-6 whose 901s I would like to check out and freshen up where needed. I also have a core and a complete 901 I could bring for you if you need cores.

Sorry this happens to folks. People can be really bad sometimes....but most are awesome to know and deal with.

Posted by: DBCooper May 6 2014, 06:21 AM

There's confusion about the term 'rebuilt'. Think 'reconditioned' as lightest touch, then 'rebuilt', including 'bench rebuilds', which is what the good Doc does, then 'remanufactured', which is what you get in the white box at NAPA, and the highest level of repair. Lots of people use those terms interchangeably, even people who know better, but the meanings are different degrees of the same concept.

Anyone who knows the guy able to get him a message, find out what's going on? I think in the past we've seen discussions similar to this one turn dramatically when we found out the seller had a sudden illness, and once when a seller had a sudden divorce. Better to find out the whole story before we gather with torches and pitchforks. Or rename stromberg.gif .


Posted by: bdstone914 May 6 2014, 08:57 AM

He was last active on May 4 22:34 pm.

Posted by: bdstone914 May 6 2014, 08:59 AM

Oops
Double post

Posted by: Big Len May 6 2014, 09:19 AM

QUOTE(DBCooper @ May 6 2014, 08:21 AM) *

There's confusion about the term 'rebuilt'. Think 'reconditioned' as lightest touch, then 'rebuilt', including 'bench rebuilds', which is what the good Doc does, then 'remanufactured', which is what you get in the white box at NAPA, and the highest level of repair. Lots of people use those terms interchangeably, even people who know better, but the meanings are different degrees of the same concept.

Anyone who knows the guy able to get him a message, find out what's going on? I think in the past we've seen discussions similar to this one turn dramatically when we found out the seller had a sudden illness, and once when a seller had a sudden divorce. Better to find out the whole story before we gather with torches and pitchforks. Or rename stromberg.gif .



I think it's past time for pitchforks.

Whether it's rebuilt, remanufactured or, reconditioned makes no difference. He was promised something that was supposedly sent to the seller's brother (yeah, right), was supposed to redeliver, and now is not answering messages, same as me and a half a dozen others, all with the same BS story He's been banned from Pelican and The Samba.

And we're waiting for exactly what???

Why tolerate this crap? I really don't get it.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 6 2014, 09:43 AM

stromberg.gif jr.

Posted by: HalfMoon May 6 2014, 10:51 AM

I don't know the guy but I live fairly close to him (pass by that area every Sunday). I'd be happy to stop in and pick up the transmission for ya. We could then do the relay or I could ship it to ya from my place. As an aside, Doc knows me and knows me to follow through with what I say I'll do.
Lemme know if I can help.
David

Posted by: Dr Evil May 6 2014, 03:44 PM

David, I will contact ya. I did not realize you were close to him. I was waiting for a day I could drive 8 hours to get there and back to pick up some cores. I have his # and we can probably organize something.
smile.gif

Posted by: HalfMoon May 7 2014, 10:43 AM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ May 6 2014, 05:44 PM) *

David, I will contact ya. I did not realize you were close to him. I was waiting for a day I could drive 8 hours to get there and back to pick up some cores. I have his # and we can probably organize something.
smile.gif


Awesome! Let's git er done piratenanner.gif
I could stop by that dudes place this Sunday May 11th around 4-5 and do the pick up if ya'll want me to.

Posted by: zambezi May 7 2014, 07:00 PM

Have any of you seen Adam Carolla's show "to catch a contractor"? We need a show like that to catch these internet scammers. I would watch it!!

Posted by: carr914 May 7 2014, 08:35 PM

Burn the Witch!





I love Monty Python

Posted by: 396 May 8 2014, 09:34 AM

For me, based on comments here. I know who accepts this type of behavior and who doesn't. ...thus if I need a part, I know who to stay away from.

Posted by: 76-914 May 8 2014, 09:46 AM

QUOTE(396 @ May 8 2014, 08:34 AM) *

For me, based on comments here. I know who accepts this type of behavior and who doesn't. ...thus if I need a part, I know who to stay away from.

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Posted by: reharvey May 8 2014, 10:52 AM

QUOTE(76-914 @ May 8 2014, 11:46 AM) *

QUOTE(396 @ May 8 2014, 08:34 AM) *

For me, based on comments here. I know who accepts this type of behavior and who doesn't. ...thus if I need a part, I know who to stay away from.

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Amen

Posted by: 396 May 8 2014, 12:21 PM

QUOTE(76-914 @ May 8 2014, 08:46 AM) *

QUOTE(396 @ May 8 2014, 08:34 AM) *

For me, based on comments here. I know who accepts this type of behavior and who doesn't. ...thus if I need a part, I know who to stay away from.

lol-2.gif av-943.gif

I'm not sure if you're laughing at my comments. But I don't think you will be laughing if it were you -smile.gif. If it is, I have some beach property in Vegas for you. .I will only accept Western Union. piratenanner.gif

Posted by: Dr Evil May 8 2014, 12:36 PM

QUOTE(76-914 @ May 8 2014, 11:46 AM) *

QUOTE(396 @ May 8 2014, 08:34 AM) *

For me, based on comments here. I know who accepts this type of behavior and who doesn't. ...thus if I need a part, I know who to stay away from.

lol-2.gif av-943.gif

Value added = 0 smile.gif rolleyes.gif

Posted by: SirAndy May 8 2014, 01:11 PM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ May 8 2014, 11:36 AM) *
Value added = 0 smile.gif rolleyes.gif

I don't think we ever had a requirement here that stated that a post had to add value to a thread.

That would eliminate 1/2 of the posts on this board. At least....
sunglasses.gif

Posted by: Dr Evil May 8 2014, 01:34 PM

Oh good, the irony was not lost on you, my friend smile.gif

Posted by: 914_teener May 8 2014, 02:01 PM

QUOTE(396 @ May 8 2014, 08:34 AM) *

For me, based on comments here. I know who accepts this type of behavior and who doesn't. ...thus if I need a part, I know who to stay away from.



Disclaimer:

Please don't take this personally, as the intent is to point out some irony in your statement. It is not intended to minimize the possibility that you got scammed.


Summation and Just Social Judgement:

Because of your use of "who" instead of "whom", I should believe that you are not educated in use of the English language in it's written form. It adds weight to this belief because I have read it here.


This type of thinking of what is posted here can become problematic socially.

That last statement is my....and only my opinion.

Posted by: Dr Evil May 8 2014, 02:10 PM

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Posted by: biosurfer1 May 8 2014, 02:33 PM

QUOTE(914_teener @ May 8 2014, 01:01 PM) *

Because of your use of "who" instead of "whom", I should believe that you are not educated in use of the English language in it's written form.


I disagree. If the answer to the question uses "he", then "who" is used. If the answer uses "him", then it would be "whom"

"Who accepts this type of behavior?"

He does

Posted by: 396 May 8 2014, 03:13 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 8 2014, 12:11 PM) *

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ May 8 2014, 11:36 AM) *
Value added = 0 smile.gif rolleyes.gif

I don't think we ever had a requirement here that stated that a post had to add value to a thread.

That would eliminate 1/2 of the posts on this board. At least....
sunglasses.gif


Andy,

Thanks for the explanation. In life there's some that simply don't get it.
Oh well biggrin.gif

Posted by: Dr Evil May 8 2014, 03:18 PM

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Posted by: 914_teener May 8 2014, 03:21 PM

QUOTE(biosurfer1 @ May 8 2014, 01:33 PM) *

QUOTE(914_teener @ May 8 2014, 01:01 PM) *

Because of your use of "who" instead of "whom", I should believe that you are not educated in use of the English language in it's written form.


I disagree. If the answer to the question uses "he", then "who" is used. If the answer uses "him", then it would be "whom"

"Who accepts this type of behavior?"

He does



Dear sir...you further my point.....that is fantastic! biggrin.gif

Posted by: biosurfer1 May 8 2014, 03:32 PM

biggrin.gif, btw your second ellipsis has too many periods

Posted by: 914_teener May 8 2014, 03:45 PM

QUOTE(biosurfer1 @ May 8 2014, 02:32 PM) *

biggrin.gif, btw your second ellipsis has too many periods


I'm an engineer NOT a surgeon!

Nuance:

Star Trek

Posted by: rhodyguy May 8 2014, 04:17 PM

What?

Posted by: walterolin May 8 2014, 04:20 PM

One "e" in judgment. Proof that lawyers can't spell.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 9 2014, 08:37 AM

wa, wa, what?

Posted by: SLITS May 9 2014, 09:12 AM

They all should be banned to the "Phantom Zone".

Superman ..................

Posted by: Red-Beard May 16 2014, 02:29 PM

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 4 2014, 05:32 AM) *

Sign number three is that for 650 bucks, you won't get a rebuilt transmission...at least not one that had anything done to it aside from looking at it.


I don't know about that TODAY, but when I started out rebuilding trannies for the guys here and apprenticed Dr. Evil, we were selling cleaned/opened up and reviewed units with decent syncho's for $750 plus a core charge. Yes, it was 2003...Dang that was a long time ago...

Or course I was able to get donor trannies for under $100, gasket sets for $20 and brand new syncho's for $20 each.

beer3.gif

Posted by: Dr Evil May 16 2014, 03:00 PM

Damn, Rich's statement was so wrong that it brought Red-Beard out of retirement to comment smile.gif

Ya, cores for $100 are more difficult in these parts. In CA it is still easy to get cores for that price, and lots of them, all day long. I should move dry.gif

Synchro bands are $80, sliders are $500 and $200, bearings are still in the $200-300.

Posted by: r_towle May 16 2014, 03:06 PM

Not wrong...so get off it.

Rebuilt it just that.

red beard stated it perfectly
Opened and reviewed...

You have your opinion on what the term rebuilt means and you are entitled to it.
I do not agree with you...stop trying to make it out like you are the holy one here...

A rebuilt motor from motor moister gets trashed here and on pelican parts every day.
Please explain the difference when a seller represents a "rebuilt" motor from motor meister using used parts, yet being sold as rebuilt.

Sad really that you keep coming back to this point, but I will not back down.
It's not rebuilt, period.
Many agree with me..but feel free to get your team to state differently.

Those of us that expect rebuilt understand what the term means.
Never started this to get up in your face.....
Was still just pointing out that given the statement and the price, the OP should have been concerned that the seller was lying...

Rich


Posted by: Red-Beard May 16 2014, 03:16 PM

Someone sent me a PM today, so I vacuumed off the dust, and checked the place out.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 16 2014, 03:17 PM

yah! get your sheet together mike! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Red-Beard May 16 2014, 03:19 PM

Whoa! Don't go using me as a foil on Mike.

Posted by: Dave_Darling May 16 2014, 04:18 PM

Why not? He could use the hat...

[wishes he had a photo-chop of the Doc wearing a tinfoil hat...]

--DD

Posted by: Dr Evil May 16 2014, 04:23 PM

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ May 16 2014, 06:18 PM) *

Why not? He could use the hat...

[wishes he had a photo-chop of the Doc wearing a tinfoil hat...]

--DD

I, too, want this pic smile.gif


Rich, your version of rebuilt would cost significantly more. This is true. I can supply anyone that wants to drop that coin with such a service, against my better advice.

Dont be such a tool. smile.gif grouphug.gif

Posted by: Qarl May 16 2014, 05:29 PM

Has anyone paid a visit to dickwad yet?

Posted by: carr914 May 16 2014, 05:31 PM

QUOTE(Red-Beard @ May 16 2014, 05:16 PM) *

Someone sent me a PM today, so I vacuumed off the dust, and checked the place out.


Welcome back!

Posted by: Dr Evil May 16 2014, 06:31 PM

QUOTE(carr914 @ May 16 2014, 07:31 PM) *

QUOTE(Red-Beard @ May 16 2014, 05:16 PM) *

Someone sent me a PM today, so I vacuumed off the dust, and checked the place out.


Welcome back!

Its like Obi Wan and shit biggrin.gif

Posted by: Red-Beard May 16 2014, 09:24 PM

QUOTE(Dr Evil @ May 16 2014, 04:31 PM) *

QUOTE(carr914 @ May 16 2014, 07:31 PM) *

QUOTE(Red-Beard @ May 16 2014, 05:16 PM) *

Someone sent me a PM today, so I vacuumed off the dust, and checked the place out.


Welcome back!

Its like Obi Wan and shit biggrin.gif


I look more like the original Anikan Skywalker from Return of the Jedi...

IPB Image

Posted by: messix May 16 2014, 09:42 PM

I have used the term "refreshed" to describe the dr. evil tranny service.

rebuilt to me would mean that all wear item parts were replaced and the life expectancy of the tranny would be as if it were new.

Posted by: HalfMoon May 16 2014, 09:52 PM

QUOTE(Qarl @ May 16 2014, 07:29 PM) *

Has anyone paid a visit to dickwad yet?


Oddly we've moved fairly far afield from actually getting something done.
I live close to this dude and have volunteered to go get the transmission but to date, no one's asked me to do it.
I guess the issue is either resolved or it's a dead duck.
Oh, we're still lambasting each other over definitions.
Ah, that's why this thread won't die dry.gif
I say we beat that hoss till it' pulp!
dead horse.gif

Posted by: DMCF1Fast May 16 2014, 11:21 PM

QUOTE(HalfMoon @ May 16 2014, 07:52 PM) *

QUOTE(Qarl @ May 16 2014, 07:29 PM) *

Has anyone paid a visit to dickwad yet?


Oddly we've moved fairly far afield from actually getting something done.
I live close to this dude and have volunteered to go get the transmission but to date, no one's asked me to do it.
I guess the issue is either resolved or it's a dead duck.
Oh, we're still lambasting each other over definitions.
Ah, that's why this thread won't die dry.gif
I say we beat that hoss till it' pulp!
dead horse.gif


Dr Evil and another awesome member of the world have worked together to help me out to get a "refreshed" Dr Evil box. If anybody can get Courtney to give up the box I paid for then great, it should go to Dr Evil and he will handle the rest.

David

Posted by: Dr Evil May 17 2014, 07:33 AM

Donor box is on my door step as of yesterday. I will move it to the garage tonight. I have one ahead of you that is being buttoned up and then the core parts should be here. smile.gif

Posted by: 85sonata Jul 8 2015, 07:19 PM

Yeah this COURTNEY HEGLER is horrible. He has a long history of this. He lives at 21110 Georgia Avenue, Brookeville, MD 20833.

He has several warrants out for his arrest out of Montgomery and Frederick County, Maryland.

His 'wife' Katherine Hegler, is an accountant at Broadsoft Inc., 9737 Washingtonian Blvd #350, Gaithersburg, MD 20878. They 'joke' on social media about heroin use and paying their babysitter in heroine.

Hegler seems to make a living off scamming people on the internet. He is likely committing federal mail fraud in doing so.

Good luck getting your money back and holding COURTNEY HEGLER accountable...

Posted by: mbseto Jul 9 2015, 08:46 AM


After the calls for street justice and then reading the beginning of this post:

QUOTE(puffinator @ May 4 2014, 09:39 AM) *

I went to his house in MD and cut off a few body pieces...


...I figured this thread would turn out a whole lot more interesting than it did.

Posted by: blackmoon Jul 9 2015, 11:33 AM

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Posted by: Hank914 Jul 10 2015, 02:19 PM

QUOTE(mbseto @ Jul 9 2015, 07:46 AM) *

After the calls for street justice and then reading the beginning of this post:
QUOTE(puffinator @ May 4 2014, 09:39 AM) *

I went to his house in MD and cut off a few body pieces...


...I figured this thread would turn out a whole lot more interesting than it did.


agree.gif


Yes...totally.

So how do you get money from a deadbeat? Well, regarding the above, the body parts have to some street value. Kidneys?

But it does sound like he still has some Porsche parts. Go to his house (or get somebody to go for you) and get a bunch of parts to them sell off and convert to equal the $600 that you are out. $600 is a lot of money to just forget about. Just saying...

Posted by: mr914 Jul 10 2015, 02:30 PM

Anyone else notice that 85sonoma is a newbie that signed up the same day he posted names and address for a year old thread.


Sounds fishy fishy to me blink.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 10 2015, 02:31 PM

Yes. A beard perhaps?

Posted by: billh1963 Jul 10 2015, 02:34 PM

QUOTE(mr914 @ Jul 10 2015, 04:30 PM) *

Anyone else notice that 85sonoma is a newbie that signed up the same day he posted names and address for a year old thread.


Sounds fishy fishy to me blink.gif



Maybe not...Maybe just posting a warning that the guy is still active:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-924-944-968-technical-forum/873924-buyers-beware-drjenkins.html

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Beware courtney hegler

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Originally Posted by jjmohler View Post
I have seen several posts on Pelican by Drjenkins/DrWJenkins. His real name is Courtney Hegler. He will tell you that Courtney Hegler is his wife who had her identity hi-jacked several years ago by someone who did lots of bad stuff. I purchased a 924s special edition from him 3 mos. ago that he had advertised on Pelican. He stated that it ran ' with a remote fuel pump '. He represented the car as a project but one that would at least run without too much work. When I received the car 6 weeks later after shipping it across country to Ca. I found on the very first day that it had a seized engine. I found after tearing the engine down that it had two spun rod bearings and had probably not run in several years. He agreed to compensate me for the damage, which he never did, and he never sent me the title that he promised. Now he doesn't communicate with me at all in spite of my repeated attempts. He is not the 'good guy' that he presents himself to be. He is a lying deadbeat. I know that there are those out there that will stick up for him but there are many more that have stories similar to mine. He is a skillful liar that will tell you what you want to hear. He has already been banned from this website as well as Samba, 914 and probably others while operating under other names. SpecialInt, Vectorvan are ones that I have found. There are probably others. A Google search will show that this guy has a long history of bad dealings.


Repeat offender. He wont scam me again. Its worth while to follow up and get your money back. You will win in the long run. He apparently must make a living scamming people via the internet.

He lives at 21110 Georgia Avenue, Brookeville, MD 20833.

He has *_several warrants_* out for his arrest out of Montgomery and Frederick County, Maryland.

His 'wife' Katherine Hegler, is an accountant at Broadsoft Inc., 9737 Washingtonian Blvd #350, Gaithersburg, MD 20878. They 'joke' on social media about heroin use and paying their babysitter in heroin. Someone should tip the DEA or something lol!

What a gem!

Posted by: billh1963 Jul 10 2015, 02:39 PM

Google searches show his name everywhere.....

Posted by: ajserrano May 28 2017, 10:58 PM

FOR THE COURTNEY KRAN HEGLER FANS! I WAS JUST SCAMMED BY COURTNEY KRAN HEGLER ON 03/29/2017!

AND WITH A TOTAL LOSS SO FAR OF $3,044 to be EXACT!


(03/24/2017) COURTNEY KARN HEGLER LIED AND MISREPRESENTED https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2036923!

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(03/29/2017) COURTNEY KARN HEGLER LIED TO ME ABOUT HIS REAL NAME! IT IS CERTAINLY NOT "GARY SCHARF" --- LIAR!!!

(03/29/2017) COURTNEY KARN HEGLER LIED TO ME OVER THE PHONE, CONFIRMED A FRESHLY REBUILT GENUINE 914-6 GEARBOX BUT LATER SHIPPED A PIECE OF SHIT TOTALLY SHOT 914-4 GEARBOX, NO ZF LSD AND ALSO NEEDING A TOTAL REBUILD! RECENTLY PRESSURED WASHED, THEN RATTLE-CANNED WITH SILVER PAINT (OVER DIRT AND ALL) AND REPLACED ALL THE UGLY OLD NUTS AT TOP OF GEARBOX WITH NEW HARDWARE FOR THE 'GLAMOUR SHOTS'. CLAIMS HE KNOWS NOTHING, IT WAS JUST SOLD TO HIM AS HE ADVERTISED IT. SCAMMER!!! WHILE DOING MY RESEARCH, I ALSO NOTICED SOMEONE ELSE ALSO HAD A PRIOR ISSUE WITH COURTNEY AND A PORSCHE GEARBOX, I WILL CONTACTING THE INDIVIDUAL TO HEAR IF THAT WAS RESOLVED.

(03/29/2017) COURTNEY KARN HEGLER LIED TO ME OVER THE PHONE, BOTH LSD FLANGES TURN FORWARD @ SAME TIME (CONFIRMING HIS BOX HAD A LSD) BUT NO LSD FOUND IN GEARBOX IN THE INSPECTION! (PERFORMED BY REPUTABLE AND HONEST SHOP, EUROPEAN AUTOWERKE).

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(04/04/2017) COURTNEY KARN HEGLER LIED ABOUT LOCKING WHEELS ON SHIPPING DOLLY! I HAVE IT IN WRITING VIA A TEXT REPLY!
COURTNEY CREATED A 'HAZMAT' SITUATION AT THE FEDEX FACILITY, REDMOND, WA BY SHIPPING THE GEARBOX FULL OF FLUID! (WHO DOES THAT?!!!
WITH OIL NOW SPILLING OUT OF GEARBOX BECAUSE THE DOLLY WHEELS WEREN'T LOCKED AS REQUESTED, FEDEX TIPPED THE GEARBOX ON ITS SIDE TO STEADY THE UNIT.
THANK YOU COURTNEY! YOU COST ME A LOT AN ADDITIONAL $160 I PAID EUROPEAN AUTOWERKE TO GO FIX THE HAZMAT PROBLEM YOU CREATED.

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(04/17/2017) WE FINALLY HAD A CHANCE TO RETRIEVE THE "POS" 914-4 GEARBOX FROM FEDEX REDMOND AND NOW AT THE SHOP FOR THE INSPECTION.
SIDE COVER COMES OFF AND THE SCAM IS OUT IN THE OPEN! I IMMEDIATELY STARTED CALLING AND TEXTING COURTNEY KARN HEGLER, BUT OF COURSE, NO REPLIES.
COURTNEY KNEW HE WAS CAUGHT IN THE SCAM AND GOES INTO HIDING.

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(04/21/2017) COURTNEY KARN HEGLER WOULD NOT RETURN ANY OF MY CALLS OR NUMEROUS TEXTS FOR DAYS, NOT UNTIL I LOCATED HIS CURRENT LANDLORD TO EXPOSE HIM.
THAT'S WHEN I GOT HIS ATTENTION AND HE FINALLY RESPONDED-- IN MINUTES!!! COURTNEY ONLY TAKES ACTION WHEN HE FEELS CORNERED.

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FIRST ATTEMPT WITH A DELAY TACTIC, AN OFFERED TO SETTLE. REALLY? $1,200 AND I GET TO KEEP YOUR POS GEARBOX SO I CAN THROW IT IN THE TRASH?

(04/24/2017) COURTNEY KARN HEGLER LIED YET AGAIN, SAID HE'S OKAY REFUNDING ME $1,900, HIS LAWYER PUTTING IT IN WRITING.
NEVER HEARD FROM HIS LAWYER!!! ONE MORE DELAY TACTIC, HIS SPECIALTY!

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(05/02/2017) COURTNEY KARN HEGLER LIED AGAIN ABOUT A REFUND WHEN HE SAID HE WILL REFUND ME THE FULL $1,900 PURCHASE PRICE FROM HIS NEXT COMMISSION CHECK (05/14/2017). THAT DATE HAS NOW COME AND GONE (SEE 05/18 BELOW) AND OF COURSE, NO REFUND AS OF TODAY 05/28/2017. I'M NOT STUPID, I REALIZE COURTNEY SIMPLY HAS NO INTENTION OF REIMBURSING ME. HE WILL PUSH YOU TO THE END UNTIL YOU TAKE ACTION IN COURT (AS HE'S DONE WITH MANY OTHERS). COURTNEY GAMBLES THAT HIS VICTIMS JUST GO AWAY. COURTNEY, I'M RELENTLESS!

(05/18/2017) COURTNEY KARN HEGLER LIED ABOUT MAILING YESTERDAY 2 PARTIAL PAYMENTS, NO LONGER $1,900 AS PREVIOUSLY STATED;
$1,000 (TOWARDS THE 914-4 GEARBOX) + $200 (TOWARDS FEDEX HAZMAT RETRIVAL AND GEARBOX INSPECTION FEE). OF COURSE, NO CHECKS AS OF 05/28/17. READ THE TEXT EXCHANGE.
BY THE WAY COURTNEY, HOW DO YOU 'UN-MAIL' A LETTER YOU PLACED IN THE HANDS OF THE USPS? YOU ARE RIDICULOUS!!!
(AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO HEAR IT FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY HOW THE U.S. MAIL CAN BE SO DELAYED. PLEASE SAVE IT. I'VE MAILED THOUSANDS OF LETTERS IN MY LIFETIME. THANK YOU).

NOTE THE YELLOW BOX TEXT, CONTACT NAME SHOWS 'GARY SCHARF', THE 'STAGE NAME' COURTNEY PROVIDED ME TO CONCEALED HIS TRUE IDENTITY.
DO I SEE THE HEGLER FANS NOW RUNNING FOR THE HILLS?

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(05/26/2017) The last text from Courtney Kran Hegler, so the Scammer is now providing me specific terms and instructions
to be explained to me via a 'certified letter' on how I am to contact him. CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!!!

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COURTNEY KARN HEGLER IS A http://www.wikihow.com/Spot-a-Sociopath AND A http://www.wikihow.com/Spot-a-Pathological-Liar.
YOU CANNOT BELIEVE ANYTHING HE SAYS, ONLY SAYS WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR,
DELIVERS EMPTY PROMISES AND USES DELAY TACTICS ADDING INSULT TO INJURY!

THE ONLY THING COURTNEY KARN HEGLER DID NOT LIED ABOUT WAS HIS MOBILE NUMBER; (240) 672-7983 IT WORKS AS I HAVE SPOKEN WITH HIM OVER THE PHONE NOW SEVERAL TIMES. BTW, HE ALSO USES A 'LLC" UNDER THE NAME "APEX ENT." IN AN EFFORT TO DEFLECT AND MINIMIZE FURTHER PERSONAL LIABILITY. SEARCH HIS COURT RECORDS, HE'S ALWAYS THE DEFENDENT, NOT THE PLAINTIFF, BUT IN HIS TWISTED MIND IS NEVER HIS FAULT, IS ALWAYS THE OTHER PARTY!!!


LOST $1,900 to THE SCAMMER by purchasing his 100% Totally Purposely Misrepresented as a 'Rebuilt Genuine 914-6 ZF LSD Gearbox' he advertised at https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2036923

+ another $160 paid to European Autowerke to fetch the oil leaking gearbox at the FedEx Redmond Distribution Facility, a 2.5 hours drive while responding to the "HazMat" situation
+ another $361 paid to European Autowerke for the so-called 914-6 Gearbox Inspection
+ another $123 paid to FedEx for Shipping Fees (from Maryland to Seattle, WA)
+ another $500+ in air-fair, rental car, etc. (round-trip LAX to Seattle, WA)

My total lost thus far, $3,044 and unfortunately I'm not just quite done with this guy yet...


After being lied to by Courtney Kran Hegler from the very beginning (said name was Gary Scharf), I decided enough was enough and I'm now going after this bastard!

You can see all the court cases filed against this guy, he's no stranger to the Maryland civil and traffic courts, he knows his way around the system and does not give a s..t.
But don't take my word for it, http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/help_scammer_courtney_hegler_public_records_warrants. I'm pissed!!!

The gear ratios as advertised? Not present, and ALL "VW" gears, nothing "PORSCHE" here.

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A 'dime-a-dozen' 914-4 worthless differential, no 901 ZF LSD here!

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Nothing rebuilt here, all worn out parts...

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There are also concerns with what appears to be numbers tampering with the gearbox serial number...

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Courtney Kran Hegler has been scamming people for years at several other forums and continues to get away with it. Unreal!!!!

As everyone knows, Courtney K. Hegler uses many, many aka's to conceal his real identity. If anyone here has had a run-in with Courtney Kran Hegler in the past, we sure would like to know about it.

Please email me at AJSERRANO@MSN.COM to share your story. We're currently building a case against Courtney to submit to the Maryland Attorney General, the Postal Inspector and several other agencies. I'm not saying anymore.

Thank you.

PS: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2036923


PSS: And for the "Courtney Karn Hegler" Fans...

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I know, hard to read, but you get the jest of it. Go check for yourself at the http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch//processDisclaimer.jis

Posted by: SixerJ May 29 2017, 05:56 AM

WTF how do you scam that many people without getting jail time, or in the words of Marcellus Wallace - having someone get medieval on your ass with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch ?

As for scamming Armando, well, we all know your totally obsessive (in a good way) and I suspect that personality trait is bad news for Mr Hegler

The only problem with criminal prosecution / civil is that he probably has little assets to pay your costs when you and others eventually win, and it will cost $$$$.

Guess that's why he's got away with it for so long. No one is prepared to take it to the logical conclusion to shell out the coin to nail him




Posted by: Cairo94507 May 29 2017, 06:40 AM

Someone will catch up to this thief and fraud and beat him to a pulp hopefully and walk away and leave him. We can all hope at least.

Posted by: mepstein May 29 2017, 06:49 AM

Just the price for that trans is suspicious. 914-6 core trans sell for $1,200-1,500. Rebuilt with lsd would be triple.

Guys, please stop sending large amounts of money to people you dont know. An Internet picture and a phone call doesnt cut it. At least get a local guy to put eyes on the part or car and send funds through a means that will protect you in case of a problem. It pains me to read these stories.

Posted by: Calwaterbear May 29 2017, 07:46 AM

QUOTE(scotty b @ May 4 2014, 05:40 PM) *

I've seen several of these threads on different forums, and have kept quiet as I have no dog in this hunt BUT what I have seen is this.

Courtney has a great rep with the local guys that can drive to his house and pick up the parts. He seems to be a nice honest guy with a lot of parts, BUT he has a horrible rep from the people out of the area that depend on him to ship the product. Take this as you will, but it seems to me he may be a good guy, that doesn't have the time, organizational skills etc. he needs to deal with the shipping of items. This doesn't excuse the fact he fails at that end of it, but I just can't sit here and see someone called a scumbag and dirtball by those who only see one side of his selling practices, when there are others that have zero problems with him confused24.gif


Good scammers always have some good business dealings, it provides em cover when it starts to go bad .

Making excuses for a proven serial scammer? seriously? If he really "doesn't have the time, organizational skills etc" to deal with shipping = then an honest individual would simply state "I will not ship".

Besides that, if it were shipping issues, then a standup guy would send back the money, instead of hiding behind his wifes skirt, stop communicating and run away.

You may have had a good experiences with him - from guys who could show up and confront him face to face, but there are lots here and in other sites who have been scammed by this loser!

You defending him may allow him to scam someone else who sees your glowing report - of course, that maty be the whole purpose of your post, to sallow him to continue with his shady dealings, hoping to find new uninformed people to rip off!

Posted by: Calwaterbear May 29 2017, 07:58 AM

QUOTE(914_teener @ May 8 2014, 01:01 PM) *

QUOTE(396 @ May 8 2014, 08:34 AM) *

For me, based on comments here. I know who accepts this type of behavior and who doesn't. ...thus if I need a part, I know who to stay away from.



Disclaimer:

Please don't take this personally, as the intent is to point out some irony in your statement. It is not intended to minimize the possibility that you got scammed.


Summation and Just Social Judgement:

Because of your use of "who" instead of "whom", I should believe that you are not educated in use of the English language in it's written form. It adds weight to this belief because I have read it here.



This type of thinking of what is posted here can become problematic socially.

That last statement is my....and only my opinion.


When ever someone says "please don't take this personally" that is the exact intent, you are personally attacking someone because you don't like the way they write or communicate.

You, I and everyone else knows exactly what he meant. It seems to me the purpose of language is clear communication. Not sure when or why grammar policing became an acceptable internet dissing of someone with different views than your own. But so be it, Get out your red pen, I'm sure you will have a blast marking me down for my poor grammar!

Posted by: Mark Henry May 29 2017, 09:27 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ May 29 2017, 08:49 AM) *

Just the price for that trans is suspicious. 914-6 core trans sell for $1,200-1,500. Rebuilt with lsd would be triple.

Guys, please stop sending large amounts of money to people you dont know. An Internet picture and a phone call doesnt cut it. At least get a local guy to put eyes on the part or car and send funds through a means that will protect you in case of a problem. It pains me to read these stories.


I agree, the price alone would have been the first red flag.
Sucks, but just be thankful you didn't buy a 996 without a PPI. Sorting one of those deals out right now...Bendover...Ka-Ching. blink.gif

Posted by: ajserrano May 29 2017, 11:53 AM

Courtney Kran Hegler, over many scam attempts has hone in his approach, his dialogue, nothing scripted and all I'm saying to warn others is that this guy is good at what he does.

As I mentioned earlier, Courtney Karn Hegler is a http://www.wikihow.com/Spot-a-Pathological-Liar and a http://www.wikihow.com/Spot-a-Sociopath. I included links, follow and read about those personality trades. I can see right through him.

Since I created the "Courtney Kran Hegler Wall of Shame" in my website only a couple of days ago, those pages are already ranked by Google on their first page results towards the top. As I continue to add ALL THE CONTENT I can find on the various portals, those will be under one-roof.

Also included as 'keywords' will be ALL the AKA's I can find that Courtney K. Hegler has used in the past (obviously not new ones which I suspect he will continue to create to scam others), ALL the email accounts past and present, previous address and none-working and working telephone numbers.

Further, I will find every single public forum Courtney K. Hegler has signed up with becoming a member and post my scam warnings, photos, details, etc. I will sign up with the "Crochet and Sewing Club of Greater North Dakota" if I have to post there also.

AT THE http://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?97960-Another-Scammer&p=929430&viewfull=1#post929430

AT THE http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/help_scammer_courtney_hegler

If I don't see my money soon, his landlord is going to learn more about Courtney Kran Hegler, I can almost say with certainty he has been late with his rent payments. As a landlord, if there is going to be an investigation by the City Attorney, the USPS Postal Inspector, etc., for internet fraud (crossing state lines), wire-fraud, and whatever else, I sure would want to know about the shenanigans being conducted by my tenants from any of my properties. Enough said...

Landlord... She's not too far away from the rental at 21110 Georgia Avenue.

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The 'Compound' at 21110...

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Posted by: Dave_Darling May 29 2017, 12:41 PM

Armando, I get that you're upset--and I would be too--but posting the addresses and a map to the guy's house and even his landlord's info is a super not-cool thing to do. Please edit your posts to remove that info. (Though if the address is what the ***hole is using as a mailing address, that is directly relevant.)

--DD

Posted by: matthepcat May 29 2017, 12:42 PM

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Posted by: ajserrano May 29 2017, 01:08 PM

Forgot... Another "Buyer Beware" for a Courtney Kran Hegler For-Sale Ad under "PorschePoweredBaja"...

As soon as I discovered I was scammed by "Gary Scharf" (Courtney Kran Hegler) with his "rebuilt 914-6 ZF LSD gearbox" at The Samba forum, I immediately searched the site for additional For-Sale ads by this scammer.
Because Courtney was not replying to any of my many telephone calls and texts, I decided to also send Courtney https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2036924 Courtney was trying to sell.

It think it was maybe 2 minutes, at best, before Courtney canceled the ad. See below, email included...


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I still did not hear from Courtney for nearly 2.5 weeks, only after texting him the landlord information that he felt I deserved a call back. But you guys already read that story...

Here is an email from "Gary Scharf" (real name Courtney Kran Hegler). Big talker, said to me on the phone he drives a Ferrari and travels to "La Jolla, CA" often, will look me up. Yah, please do Courtney!


-----Original Message-----
From: Apex Ent [mailto:Apexent@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 2:09 PM
To: ajserrano@msn.com
Subject: 914-6 trans

Hey Armando,

Make check payable to Apex Ent.

Send check to:
Apex Ent.
Attn. Gary Scharf
21110 Georgia Ave.
Olney, Md 20833

It was nice speaking with you today about Porsches. Next time I'm in La Jolla I'll look you up.

Regards, Gary

Sent from my iPad

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From: Armando @ MSN [mailto:ajserrano@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:53 AM
To: 'Apex Ent' <Apexent@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: 914-6 transmission Shipping Etc.

I see you deleted your 3.2 Crank/Rod ad at The Samba. I captured that too. No worries, I’m on it, this is only a start…

Email sent earlier to The Samba Administrator. You’re a scum bag Gary.
Thank you.
Armando

“I WAS SCAMMED BY SELLER! $1,900+

Hello, just a quick note to share my recent purchase which turned out to be a scam by a Samba Seller. You have to ban this predator from your forum. He's very good and convincing. Please see contact information below.

Apex Ent.
Attn. Gary Scharf
21110 Georgia Avenue
BROOKEVILLE, MD 20833
US

Mobile: (240) 672-7983
eMail: apexent@comcast.net

Link to a Porsche '914-6' gearbox he sold me http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2036923

Upon delivery to my mechanic in Washington, shipped from Maryland at great expense to me, the gearbox turned out NOT to have a ZF Limited Slip Differential as advertised and later confirmed to me by the Seller over the phone during the purchase. None of the gear ratios he advertised were Porsche, all gear sets were VW including the ring/pinion, also a VW part clearly stamped as such. The 914 gearbox was never rebuilt as advertised and actually has all worn out bearings, dog-bones, synchro’s, etc., etc. As soon as FedEx picked up the gearbox from the Seller in Maryland to deliver to the shop in the state Washington, the Samba Seller (Gary) disappeared, he’s not replying to any of my texts or emails.

I'm going after this scammer, took me for $1,900 sending me a ‘camouflaged and totally misrepresented’ crappy, useless, worn-out, corroded 914 gearbox. The gearbox is maybe worth $300 at best.

BTW, as of yesterday he had one other for-sale ad in your forum, but he has since delete it, shortly after I originated another email from this 2nd ad in an effort to reach him. See here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2036924

Below is a copy of an email he sent me on March 29th.

Thank you,

Armando Serrano

Posted by: ajserrano May 29 2017, 01:28 PM

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ May 29 2017, 11:41 AM) *

Armando, I get that you're upset--and I would be too--but posting the addresses and a map to the guy's house and even his landlord's info is a super not-cool thing to do. Please edit your posts to remove that info. (Though if the address is what the ***hole is using as a mailing address, that is directly relevant.)

--DD

Hi Dave, I understand, but if you do the research I have done in the last several weeks about Courtney Kran Hegler, the TWO 'common threads' between most scam complaint victims are; #1) the address at 21110 Georgia Avenue and #2) Courtney Karn Hegler as the real perpetrator behind the scams, of course always disguised by the many different 'fake names' and numerous 'email addresses' provided to his victims.

If we we were to take down that address, you will essentially disconnect an important common-link between all the scam victims that could be a key in alerting yet another potential victim about to mail a check or payment to this perpetrator.

As soon as Courtney thinks about it a bit more, he will try and start using a 'P.O.Box'. Mark my words.

If found to be true, it is alleged that Courtney has in the past instructed other scammed victims to mail payments to his wife Katherine Hegler's place of business involving her in the process. An accessory? Maybe not, but do you think a City Attorney and or any investigator, detective assigned to the case is going to want to explore that lead also? I would think so, but I'm not going to speculate about that.

Dave, what would you like me to do? Please let me know. Thanks for the post.

Armando

Posted by: bandjoey May 29 2017, 01:52 PM

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Posted by: 914_teener May 29 2017, 01:55 PM

QUOTE(Calwaterbear @ May 29 2017, 06:58 AM) *

QUOTE(914_teener @ May 8 2014, 01:01 PM) *

QUOTE(396 @ May 8 2014, 08:34 AM) *

For me, based on comments here. I know who accepts this type of behavior and who doesn't. ...thus if I need a part, I know who to stay away from.



Disclaimer:

Please don't take this personally, as the intent is to point out some irony in your statement. It is not intended to minimize the possibility that you got scammed.


Summation and Just Social Judgement:

Because of your use of "who" instead of "whom", I should believe that you are not educated in use of the English language in it's written form. It adds weight to this belief because I have read it here.



This type of thinking of what is posted here can become problematic socially.

That last statement is my....and only my opinion.


When ever someone says "please don't take this personally" that is the exact intent, you are personally attacking someone because you don't like the way they write or communicate.

You, I and everyone else knows exactly what he meant. It seems to me the purpose of language is clear communication. Not sure when or why grammar policing became an acceptable internet dissing of someone with different views than your own. But so be it, Get out your red pen, I'm sure you will have a blast marking me down for my poor grammar!




The comment, in my opinion, was to point out the irony of making judgement on someone you have never met or may never meet. They may be about facts that in fact, are not true. Language is never "always" clear for its purpose. It is full of nuance. Spoken English and written English are two different things.

In my opinion, and from the posts on the original thread, it is difficult to gauge the intent of someone's actions by just they way they write or what they say, or even how they write it. Their intent and character is better gauged by what one does. Actions. The guy sounded more like a flake. That can be interpreted as a thief. There is a degree of difference. Sounds like he has made the quantum leap, from flake to thief. I wrote, sounds like. Don't know for sure if it really the same person, cause this is the internet.

I see that disclaimer all the time on the internet, "don't take it personally"...I think because it is really hard to gauge character and truth through a few statements and blurbs here or any other place in the Ether.

But I'm not speaking here, I'm writing, and I won't claim to know what everyone else knows, because I don't.

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Posted by: Olympic 914 May 29 2017, 05:32 PM

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Posted by: forrestkhaag May 29 2017, 06:22 PM

As I live and breathe, I stand corrected. I thought taking a check and letting it clear was some assurance that one had his money in the bank before releasing the product. That situation is different that this thread describes This scam throws a wrench in the assumption that most people are honest and the ones that aren't, don't last long. / And M Ep. is correct / let someone do an inspection prior to monetary exchange when ever possible. Not always possible.

Some bag on Paypal but when I bought a set of bogus "Weber's" recently, I got my money back in two weeks w/o question. Done.

WTF.gif FYI another scam via the use of paypal is to sell something (on ebay or others), receive notice that the payment has been made (by the buyer in a PM or eBay message, etc.) and then not see the deposit in your account as an actual deposit. The buyer says he sent it and can you send out the product while his payment "posts" and by using a slightly off email address ( like two dot-coms behind the correct email address) the seller's money is in Paypal limbo (earning interest for paypal daily by the way...) and if the seller is an idiot and sends out the product, the buyer can get an immediate refund while your inflatable 914 replica is in route to the scammer. FYI
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