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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Factory built 914-6 turbo?
Posted by: SirAndy May 8 2014, 03:12 PM
Anyone else read the article in the current Panorama where Valentin Schäffer mentions that Porsche had him (secretly) build two turbo cars in 1970, one 911 and one 914-6?
I wonder what ever happened to that car and if anyone out there has some more info on it ...
Posted by: JmuRiz May 8 2014, 03:16 PM
I saw that too, never heard about it before...a test mule for the 930. That would be an insanely cool car!
If they still have it, it must be in their annex building.
Posted by: stugray May 8 2014, 03:17 PM
My guess is that the 914-6 put the 911 to shame and they had it destroyed before anyone found out...
Posted by: Madswede May 8 2014, 03:37 PM
QUOTE(stugray @ May 8 2014, 03:17 PM)
My guess is that the 914-6 put the 911 to shame and they had it destroyed before anyone found out...
Posted by: damesandhotrods May 8 2014, 03:57 PM
If Porsche already had two turbo test mules in 1970, then I am rather shocked that Donohue had to spend so much time on the 917/10’s turbos.
Posted by: SirAndy May 8 2014, 04:09 PM
QUOTE(damesandhotrods @ May 8 2014, 02:57 PM)
If Porsche already had two turbo test mules in 1970, then I am rather shocked that Donohue had to spend so much time on the 917/10’s turbos.
According to the article, the initial interest and reason for using the 911 and 914-6 as test mules was that Porsche was getting their asses kicked locally by BMW's 2002 turbo cars.
Apparently, they used this initial research as the platform for their later turbo engines.
This sounds like there could be an interesting story in there somewhere ...
Posted by: Ferg May 8 2014, 04:20 PM
QUOTE(stugray @ May 8 2014, 01:17 PM)
My guess is that the 914-6 put the 911 to shame and they had it destroyed before anyone found out...
And now we can all assume it was Porsche themselves that first said "you can't turbo a 914"
Posted by: SirAndy May 8 2014, 04:26 PM
QUOTE(Ferg @ May 8 2014, 03:20 PM)
And now we can all assume it was Porsche themselves that first said "you can't turbo a 914"
Actually, what they really said was:
"You can't turbo a 914! But we can ..."
Posted by: JmuRiz May 8 2014, 07:28 PM
They found the TAG F1 engine'd 930 right? I'm guessing someone might 'find' this turbo 914.
Chappy, is this what gave you the motivation on your car?
Posted by: iamchappy May 8 2014, 07:43 PM
This is the first time I've heard about Porsche building a turbo 914, my motivation was why they hadn't done it... So I did, and am very happy I did..
Posted by: iamchappy May 8 2014, 07:47 PM
I would love to see how they did it.
Posted by: horizontally-opposed May 14 2014, 12:24 PM
QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 8 2014, 03:09 PM)
Apparently, they used this initial research as the platform for their later turbo engines.
This sounds like there could be an interesting story in there somewhere ...
Yep! Unfortunately, no art, drawings, photos, etc. exist to go with this. I'll look into it further when I'm next in Germany, since this is unusual, but already requested the obvious from the obvious players. Was super bummed there was not something more...as I was fascinated by Schaffer's recollection...
Hope you're well, Andy!
pete
Posted by: get off my lawn May 14 2014, 03:28 PM
Secret spy photo of prototype turbo system>
Attached image(s)
Posted by: carr914 May 14 2014, 06:17 PM
I'll send an eMail off to Jurgen Barth and see what he knows
Posted by: ottox914 May 14 2014, 07:37 PM
What? You CAN turbo a 914? i'd LOVE to learn more about this. Pics would be amazing-
Posted by: GregAmy May 15 2014, 07:54 AM
QUOTE(ottox914 @ May 14 2014, 09:37 PM)
What? You CAN turbo a 914?
Anything CAN be turbocharged...and if you need more space, cut out the rear trunk, a la Lotus Europa, and stiffen it with a few strategically-placed tubes.
Posted by: Dave_Darling May 15 2014, 08:10 AM
Sorry, Greg, you've just run into a long-standing joke in the 914 world...
--DD
Posted by: rick 918-S May 15 2014, 08:45 AM
QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ May 15 2014, 09:10 AM)
Sorry, Greg, you've just run into a long-standing joke in the 914 world...
--DD
Greg, it's a standing joke around here whenever anyone brings up the conversation someone will always post: " You can't turbo a 914" It has been done successfully for years with kits available in the late 70's I think. But Chappy took his car to a whole new level with a twin plug 6 that will make guys like us look 16 again when he hits the loud peddle.
all the wrinkles go right to the back of our heads.
Posted by: Woody May 15 2014, 09:08 AM
QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ May 15 2014, 09:10 AM)
Sorry, Greg, you've just run into a long-standing joke in the 914 world...
--DD
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