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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ 2576 Type IV Turbo beast

Posted by: rtalich May 22 2014, 06:27 PM

http://youtu.be/qbp5oWrmpXw

It's been a long time in the making and it's alive and running!! piratenanner.gif

A little advertisement for the OC!!

Posted by: G e o r g e May 22 2014, 06:48 PM

Thats a Monster. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Racer Chris May 22 2014, 06:51 PM

smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: wndsrfr May 22 2014, 06:54 PM

aktion035.gif drooley.gif beer.gif piratenanner.gif

pray.gif You Da Man!! Can't wait to get driving reports......

Posted by: saigon71 May 22 2014, 07:30 PM

smilie_pokal.gif

That is one sweet sounding machine - well done! beerchug.gif


Posted by: r_towle May 22 2014, 07:37 PM

who is OC?

Posted by: oldschool May 22 2014, 07:40 PM

How much HP do you think?

Posted by: Randal May 22 2014, 07:46 PM


Nice, very nice.

Ought to be NORTH of 300hp easy.

Posted by: rtalich May 22 2014, 07:58 PM

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 22 2014, 06:37 PM) *

who is OC?

You're joking right dry.gif sad.gif Original Customs

QUOTE(oldschool @ May 22 2014, 06:40 PM) *

How much HP do you think?


I really have no idea. Hoping for a mild 300.

Posted by: McMark May 22 2014, 08:46 PM

Sweet! boldblue.gif

Posted by: Dave_Darling May 22 2014, 08:52 PM

Is the muffler really unsupported? If so, you might want to think about a hanger of some kind for it...

--DD

Posted by: NORD May 22 2014, 09:18 PM



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Sounds really good. Now go drive it. driving.gif

Posted by: Black22 May 22 2014, 09:31 PM

Sounds great! piratenanner.gif

Like the OC dizzy cover! aktion035.gif

Anyone else see an oil leak on the passenger valve cover? confused24.gif

Posted by: aircooledtechguy May 22 2014, 10:05 PM

Glad to see you finally got that beast road-ready. Congrats; it sounds angry!! Now go punish it!! happy11.gif

Posted by: Elliot Cannon May 22 2014, 10:14 PM

I think anyone with the knowledge and skill to build and install an engine like that will pretty much be able to take care of an oil leak or muffler hanger. I'm sure they appreciate the help and advice though. poke.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: stugray May 22 2014, 10:53 PM

QUOTE
Is the muffler really unsupported? If so, you might want to think about a hanger of some kind for it...


I am guessing that the muffler has to hang like that because of the axle when the car is in the air.

That is a thing of beauty pray.gif

Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 22 2014, 11:43 PM

The perfect force fed, big displacement type4 agree.gif
If that is a foam type air filter keep your eye on it.
The foam does not like big heat, starts to get brittle and deposit small chunks into the intake stream, btdt and I have the tee shirt !
Marty

Posted by: ConeDodger May 22 2014, 11:49 PM

Seems like that left the OC more than a year ago huh.gif were ya skeard to put it in? sad.gif

Posted by: WLD419 May 23 2014, 03:37 AM

Damn ! Very Very Nice ! aktion035.gif beerchug.gif , Bill D.
curious is their a thread on details of the motor build ? smile.gif ,

Posted by: rtalich May 23 2014, 07:15 AM

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ May 22 2014, 07:52 PM) *

Is the muffler really unsupported? If so, you might want to think about a hanger of some kind for it...

--DD


Yes. It's just hanging there for now. I was not going to leave it that way and am planning to hang it before I drive it.

QUOTE(aircooledtechguy @ May 22 2014, 09:05 PM) *

Glad to see you finally got that beast road-ready. Congrats; it sounds angry!! Now go punish it!! happy11.gif


Thanks. But all the credit for the build goes to Mark and the OC!!

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ May 22 2014, 10:43 PM) *

The perfect force fed, big displacement type4 agree.gif
If that is a foam type air filter keep your eye on it.
The foam does not like big heat, starts to get brittle and deposit small chunks into the intake stream, btdt and I have the tee shirt !
Marty


Yes. That is foam sad.gif Thanks for the advice!! I'll definetly get that changed out!!

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ May 22 2014, 10:49 PM) *

Seems like that left the OC more than a year ago huh.gif were ya skeard to put it in? sad.gif


You know I was looking at the dates. I cannot believe it's almost been a year!! To be honest... once I got the engine installed I was pretty scared or apprehensive in turning that key for the first time. blink.gif I was afraid something would break!! Just glad Mark did the cam break in at the shop so I knew that it ran at least. For those that don't know. He did the cam break in with carbs before sending the motor to me.

QUOTE(WLD419 @ May 23 2014, 02:37 AM) *

Damn ! Very Very Nice ! aktion035.gif beerchug.gif , Bill D.
curious is their a thread on details of the motor build ? smile.gif ,


Well sort of. There are pics of various steps along the way.

http://www.originalcustoms.com/invoice/images.php?p=143

Posted by: Philip W. May 23 2014, 07:36 AM

that's a beautiful build!


maybe McMark can comment, but how does a big /4 like this compare
to a /6 with similar size/displacement? is there a cost advantage one vs the other? i am always curious why we do what we do,

one other question, how much boost are you running?

-love the sound of the tangerine system!

Phil

Posted by: rtalich May 23 2014, 10:44 AM

QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 23 2014, 06:36 AM) *

that's a beautiful build!


maybe McMark can comment, but how does a big /4 like this compare
to a /6 with similar size/displacement? is there a cost advantage one vs the other? i am always curious why we do what we do,

one other question, how much boost are you running?

-love the sound of the tangerine system!

Phil


Thanks! If I could go back in time... knowing what I know now... I would have gone a different route. Something a bit more cost friendly!!

As for boost... I don't know at this point as I have not driven it yet. I have shift rod issues that I'm working out at the moment.

How did you know that was a tangerine system? evilgrin.gif

Maybe its about time I change my signature... happy11.gif

Posted by: worn May 23 2014, 11:00 AM

QUOTE(rtalich @ May 22 2014, 04:27 PM) *

http://youtu.be/qbp5oWrmpXw

It's been a long time in the making and it's alive and running!! piratenanner.gif

A little advertisement for the OC!!


And the stock ECU will do that? I am amazed and impressed, and joking. Niiiice.

Posted by: Racer Chris May 23 2014, 11:50 AM

QUOTE(rtalich @ May 23 2014, 11:44 AM) *

QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 23 2014, 06:36 AM) *

-love the sound of the tangerine system!

How did you know that was a tangerine system? evilgrin.gif

The picture is labeled on the OC webpage. beerchug.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy May 24 2014, 07:19 AM

WOW. is the new engine build based on the 2270?

Posted by: r_towle May 24 2014, 08:23 AM

78 /103

Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 24 2014, 10:38 AM

Low boost non- intercooled, or are you spraying water-meth into it?
I saw the vid real quick...must have missed the intercooler.
Marty

Posted by: 396 May 24 2014, 12:29 PM

Nice...makes some wonder if it's worth it to install a 2.2 /2.4 -6 in one of these.
Did some one say 300 hp?

Posted by: Dr Evil May 26 2014, 06:38 PM

Very cool. Any projections on reliability or possible issues to look for in such a large displacement? I am assuming from your post that it was not cost friendly, but it is wicked cool and well done.

Posted by: McMark May 27 2014, 12:05 AM

QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 23 2014, 06:36 AM) *
maybe McMark can comment, but how does a big /4 like this compare to a /6 with similar size/displacement?

Turbos aside, the fours tend to have torque come on lower down, whereas the sixes make horsepower. Which is to say, fours can put you back in your seat, but taper off as RPM increases while sixes are a slower build and when they start to breathe, they really move. But all that is a massive generality.

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 24 2014, 07:23 AM) *

78 /103

82/100 actually. wink.gif

Posted by: r_towle May 27 2014, 11:00 AM

any pics of the casework for that one?
Must have had to grind some of it away for that crank??

rich

Posted by: rtalich May 27 2014, 05:19 PM

QUOTE(r_towle @ May 27 2014, 10:00 AM) *

any pics of the casework for that one?
Must have had to grind some of it away for that crank??

rich


Sorry. I don't have any pics of that. Jake did all the case clearancing work and decking.

I then had the case thermal coated. That nearly ended this project and cannot thank Mark enough for saving the build!!!! That's another story.....

Posted by: rtalich May 27 2014, 05:21 PM

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ May 24 2014, 09:38 AM) *

Low boost non- intercooled, or are you spraying water-meth into it?
I saw the vid real quick...must have missed the intercooler.
Marty


No intercooler planned for now.

Posted by: rtalich May 27 2014, 05:22 PM

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ May 24 2014, 06:19 AM) *

WOW. is the new engine build based on the 2270?


Nope.

Posted by: rhodyguy May 28 2014, 09:41 AM

what did you do with the 2270? sold?

Posted by: rtalich Oct 9 2014, 02:40 PM

Finally got the big bugs resolved. Now just a few little things. Here is a quick video. Please excuse the very poor quality. I was by myself. Next time I will recruit a dedicated camera person!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyPBms7AgU8

Posted by: Krieger Oct 9 2014, 04:55 PM

That sounds bad ass! aktion035.gif

Posted by: JimN73 Oct 9 2014, 06:26 PM

Why don't you bring it to breakfast on the 25th? I think we'd all like to see it.

Posted by: Chris Pincetich Oct 9 2014, 06:26 PM

jealous beerchug.gif

Posted by: veekry9 Oct 9 2014, 07:39 PM

QUOTE(rtalich @ May 27 2014, 07:21 PM) *

QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ May 24 2014, 09:38 AM) *

Low boost non- intercooled, or are you spraying water-meth into it?
I saw the vid real quick...must have missed the intercooler.
Marty


No intercooler planned for now.


in the quest for Mo Power...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gss8Br_e2rg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhff2feNaRw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEPBTbMpz1Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3APsoYftE38



more boost,more power,more heat.
An eventual compromise limiting boost and inlet
air temps must be made before detonation sets in.
Those pistons look too nice to hole.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn5UT3_XJDklF3Si7dJmSiA
This is beautiful,polished,sounds very nice,malevolent even.
I recall a 914 turbo'ed with a 924 setup and raced.
Excellence did a few pages on the car,pointed me to my purchase.
Painted a 911 custom blue I liked.
Good read for the approach used.

Posted by: ezbngreen914 Oct 9 2014, 10:04 PM

Was that a "Flux Capacitor" that I spotted in the cab?...

Posted by: veekry9 Oct 10 2014, 12:17 AM

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can you fake them?
Save the world.
Change the course of human history,free energy.


Posted by: nein14 Oct 10 2014, 08:50 AM

CONGRADS !! ON YOUR TURBO MOD smile.gif YOU DIDN;T KNOW YOU CAN'T TURBO A 914 happy11.gif




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Posted by: rtalich Oct 10 2014, 09:04 AM

QUOTE(JimN73 @ Oct 9 2014, 05:26 PM) *

Why don't you bring it to breakfast on the 25th? I think we'd all like to see it.


Sorry but I can't make it on the 25th

Posted by: veekry9 Oct 10 2014, 03:31 PM

QUOTE(nein14 @ Oct 10 2014, 10:50 AM) *

CONGRADS !! ON YOUR TURBO MOD smile.gif YOU DIDN;T KNOW YOU CAN'T TURBO A 914 happy11.gif


So beautiful nein14.
I see you have added an intercooler and fan to your system.
I enjoyed reading of your restoration and repair of the usual long rust and subsequent turbo install.
The writers's description of the engine whistling and huffing as you exited the corners stimulated my imagination.
The adoption of the 924's turbo and integral wastegate is a simple and obvious solution.
The added charge cooler is now a must-have in order to reduce cylinder head temps.
Wonderful work and thankyou.

Posted by: nein14 Oct 10 2014, 04:09 PM

Your welcome your install look great!

I made a lot of upgrades since the article in Excellence 930 bilstein struts S calipers vented rears with 914/6 calipers and the Turbo was
Changed to a K26 NOS from A Audi 5000 S

Posted by: veekry9 Oct 11 2014, 01:27 AM

Some pistons in photogenic surroundings
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you can see what you can hear in the clip.

beauty is in the ear of the beholder


Posted by: rtalich Oct 11 2014, 01:55 PM

QUOTE(veekry9 @ Oct 11 2014, 12:27 AM) *

Some pistons in photogenic surroundings
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you can see what you can hear in the clip.

beauty is in the ear of the beholder


Those truly are things of beauty!! aktion035.gif

Posted by: rtalich Oct 11 2014, 07:17 PM

QUOTE(nein14 @ Oct 10 2014, 07:50 AM) *

CONGRADS !! ON YOUR TURBO MOD smile.gif YOU DIDN;T KNOW YOU CAN'T TURBO A 914 happy11.gif


Thanks!! What is that intercooler out of? This will be my next 'upgrade'.

Posted by: nein14 Oct 12 2014, 06:16 AM

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CONGRADS !! ON YOUR TURBO MOD smile.gif YOU DIDN;T KNOW YOU CAN'T TURBO A 914 happy11.gif
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Thanks!! What is that intercooler out of? This will be my next 'upgrade'.
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I tried several with not great results off different cars until I ran accross this one came off Turbo charged Plane

Posted by: veekry9 Oct 12 2014, 02:27 PM

QUOTE(nein14 @ Oct 10 2014, 06:09 PM) *

I made a lot of upgrades....Turbo was changed to a K26 NOS from A Audi 5000 S



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http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=15595

A link to data on K26-6/-8 ,for those of you who need Turbo 914-4.


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