914World.com _ 914World Garage _ 2576 Type IV Turbo beast
Posted by: rtalich May 22 2014, 06:27 PM
http://youtu.be/qbp5oWrmpXw
It's been a long time in the making and it's alive and running!!
A little advertisement for the OC!!
Posted by: G e o r g e May 22 2014, 06:48 PM
Thats a Monster.
Posted by: Racer Chris May 22 2014, 06:51 PM
Posted by: wndsrfr May 22 2014, 06:54 PM
You Da Man!! Can't wait to get driving reports......
Posted by: saigon71 May 22 2014, 07:30 PM
That is one sweet sounding machine - well done!
Posted by: r_towle May 22 2014, 07:37 PM
who is OC?
Posted by: oldschool May 22 2014, 07:40 PM
How much HP do you think?
Posted by: Randal May 22 2014, 07:46 PM
Nice, very nice.
Ought to be NORTH of 300hp easy.
Posted by: rtalich May 22 2014, 07:58 PM
QUOTE(r_towle @ May 22 2014, 06:37 PM)
who is OC?
You're joking right Original Customs
QUOTE(oldschool @ May 22 2014, 06:40 PM)
How much HP do you think?
I really have no idea. Hoping for a mild 300.
Posted by: McMark May 22 2014, 08:46 PM
Sweet!
Posted by: Dave_Darling May 22 2014, 08:52 PM
Is the muffler really unsupported? If so, you might want to think about a hanger of some kind for it...
--DD
Posted by: NORD May 22 2014, 09:18 PM
Sounds really good. Now go drive it.
Posted by: Black22 May 22 2014, 09:31 PM
Sounds great!
Like the OC dizzy cover!
Anyone else see an oil leak on the passenger valve cover?
Posted by: aircooledtechguy May 22 2014, 10:05 PM
Glad to see you finally got that beast road-ready. Congrats; it sounds angry!! Now go punish it!!
Posted by: Elliot Cannon May 22 2014, 10:14 PM
I think anyone with the knowledge and skill to build and install an engine like that will pretty much be able to take care of an oil leak or muffler hanger. I'm sure they appreciate the help and advice though.
Posted by: stugray May 22 2014, 10:53 PM
QUOTE
Is the muffler really unsupported? If so, you might want to think about a hanger of some kind for it...
I am guessing that the muffler has to hang like that because of the axle when the car is in the air.
That is a thing of beauty
Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 22 2014, 11:43 PM
The perfect force fed, big displacement type4 If that is a foam type air filter keep your eye on it. The foam does not like big heat, starts to get brittle and deposit small chunks into the intake stream, btdt and I have the tee shirt ! Marty
Posted by: ConeDodger May 22 2014, 11:49 PM
Seems like that left the OC more than a year ago were ya skeard to put it in?
Posted by: WLD419 May 23 2014, 03:37 AM
Damn ! Very Very Nice ! , Bill D. curious is their a thread on details of the motor build ? ,
Posted by: rtalich May 23 2014, 07:15 AM
QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ May 22 2014, 07:52 PM)
Is the muffler really unsupported? If so, you might want to think about a hanger of some kind for it...
--DD
Yes. It's just hanging there for now. I was not going to leave it that way and am planning to hang it before I drive it.
QUOTE(aircooledtechguy @ May 22 2014, 09:05 PM)
Glad to see you finally got that beast road-ready. Congrats; it sounds angry!! Now go punish it!!
Thanks. But all the credit for the build goes to Mark and the OC!!
QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ May 22 2014, 10:43 PM)
The perfect force fed, big displacement type4 If that is a foam type air filter keep your eye on it. The foam does not like big heat, starts to get brittle and deposit small chunks into the intake stream, btdt and I have the tee shirt ! Marty
Yes. That is foam Thanks for the advice!! I'll definetly get that changed out!!
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ May 22 2014, 10:49 PM)
Seems like that left the OC more than a year ago were ya skeard to put it in?
You know I was looking at the dates. I cannot believe it's almost been a year!! To be honest... once I got the engine installed I was pretty scared or apprehensive in turning that key for the first time. I was afraid something would break!! Just glad Mark did the cam break in at the shop so I knew that it ran at least. For those that don't know. He did the cam break in with carbs before sending the motor to me.
QUOTE(WLD419 @ May 23 2014, 02:37 AM)
Damn ! Very Very Nice ! , Bill D. curious is their a thread on details of the motor build ? ,
Well sort of. There are pics of various steps along the way.
maybe McMark can comment, but how does a big /4 like this compare to a /6 with similar size/displacement? is there a cost advantage one vs the other? i am always curious why we do what we do,
one other question, how much boost are you running?
-love the sound of the tangerine system!
Phil
Posted by: rtalich May 23 2014, 10:44 AM
QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 23 2014, 06:36 AM)
that's a beautiful build!
maybe McMark can comment, but how does a big /4 like this compare to a /6 with similar size/displacement? is there a cost advantage one vs the other? i am always curious why we do what we do,
one other question, how much boost are you running?
-love the sound of the tangerine system!
Phil
Thanks! If I could go back in time... knowing what I know now... I would have gone a different route. Something a bit more cost friendly!!
As for boost... I don't know at this point as I have not driven it yet. I have shift rod issues that I'm working out at the moment.
How did you know that was a tangerine system?
Maybe its about time I change my signature...
Posted by: worn May 23 2014, 11:00 AM
QUOTE(rtalich @ May 22 2014, 04:27 PM)
http://youtu.be/qbp5oWrmpXw
It's been a long time in the making and it's alive and running!!
A little advertisement for the OC!!
And the stock ECU will do that? I am amazed and impressed, and joking. Niiiice.
Posted by: Racer Chris May 23 2014, 11:50 AM
QUOTE(rtalich @ May 23 2014, 11:44 AM)
QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 23 2014, 06:36 AM)
-love the sound of the tangerine system!
How did you know that was a tangerine system?
The picture is labeled on the OC webpage.
Posted by: rhodyguy May 24 2014, 07:19 AM
WOW. is the new engine build based on the 2270?
Posted by: r_towle May 24 2014, 08:23 AM
78 /103
Posted by: Maltese Falcon May 24 2014, 10:38 AM
Low boost non- intercooled, or are you spraying water-meth into it? I saw the vid real quick...must have missed the intercooler. Marty
Posted by: 396 May 24 2014, 12:29 PM
Nice...makes some wonder if it's worth it to install a 2.2 /2.4 -6 in one of these. Did some one say 300 hp?
Posted by: Dr Evil May 26 2014, 06:38 PM
Very cool. Any projections on reliability or possible issues to look for in such a large displacement? I am assuming from your post that it was not cost friendly, but it is wicked cool and well done.
Posted by: McMark May 27 2014, 12:05 AM
QUOTE(Philip W. @ May 23 2014, 06:36 AM)
maybe McMark can comment, but how does a big /4 like this compare to a /6 with similar size/displacement?
Turbos aside, the fours tend to have torque come on lower down, whereas the sixes make horsepower. Which is to say, fours can put you back in your seat, but taper off as RPM increases while sixes are a slower build and when they start to breathe, they really move. But all that is a massive generality.
QUOTE(r_towle @ May 24 2014, 07:23 AM)
78 /103
82/100 actually.
Posted by: r_towle May 27 2014, 11:00 AM
any pics of the casework for that one? Must have had to grind some of it away for that crank??
rich
Posted by: rtalich May 27 2014, 05:19 PM
QUOTE(r_towle @ May 27 2014, 10:00 AM)
any pics of the casework for that one? Must have had to grind some of it away for that crank??
rich
Sorry. I don't have any pics of that. Jake did all the case clearancing work and decking.
I then had the case thermal coated. That nearly ended this project and cannot thank Mark enough for saving the build!!!! That's another story.....
Posted by: rtalich May 27 2014, 05:21 PM
QUOTE(Maltese Falcon @ May 24 2014, 09:38 AM)
Low boost non- intercooled, or are you spraying water-meth into it? I saw the vid real quick...must have missed the intercooler. Marty
No intercooler planned for now.
Posted by: rtalich May 27 2014, 05:22 PM
QUOTE(rhodyguy @ May 24 2014, 06:19 AM)
WOW. is the new engine build based on the 2270?
Nope.
Posted by: rhodyguy May 28 2014, 09:41 AM
what did you do with the 2270? sold?
Posted by: rtalich Oct 9 2014, 02:40 PM
Finally got the big bugs resolved. Now just a few little things. Here is a quick video. Please excuse the very poor quality. I was by myself. Next time I will recruit a dedicated camera person!!
more boost,more power,more heat. An eventual compromise limiting boost and inlet air temps must be made before detonation sets in. Those pistons look too nice to hole.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn5UT3_XJDklF3Si7dJmSiA This is beautiful,polished,sounds very nice,malevolent even. I recall a 914 turbo'ed with a 924 setup and raced. Excellence did a few pages on the car,pointed me to my purchase. Painted a 911 custom blue I liked. Good read for the approach used.
Posted by: ezbngreen914 Oct 9 2014, 10:04 PM
Was that a "Flux Capacitor" that I spotted in the cab?...
Posted by: veekry9 Oct 10 2014, 12:17 AM
1.21 gigawatts!
You can't invent them now(prior art), can you fake them? Save the world. Change the course of human history,free energy.
Posted by: nein14 Oct 10 2014, 08:50 AM
CONGRADS !! ON YOUR TURBO MOD YOU DIDN;T KNOW YOU CAN'T TURBO A 914
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Posted by: rtalich Oct 10 2014, 09:04 AM
QUOTE(JimN73 @ Oct 9 2014, 05:26 PM)
Why don't you bring it to breakfast on the 25th? I think we'd all like to see it.
Sorry but I can't make it on the 25th
Posted by: veekry9 Oct 10 2014, 03:31 PM
QUOTE(nein14 @ Oct 10 2014, 10:50 AM)
CONGRADS !! ON YOUR TURBO MOD YOU DIDN;T KNOW YOU CAN'T TURBO A 914
So beautiful nein14. I see you have added an intercooler and fan to your system. I enjoyed reading of your restoration and repair of the usual long rust and subsequent turbo install. The writers's description of the engine whistling and huffing as you exited the corners stimulated my imagination. The adoption of the 924's turbo and integral wastegate is a simple and obvious solution. The added charge cooler is now a must-have in order to reduce cylinder head temps. Wonderful work and thankyou.
Posted by: nein14 Oct 10 2014, 04:09 PM
Your welcome your install look great!
I made a lot of upgrades since the article in Excellence 930 bilstein struts S calipers vented rears with 914/6 calipers and the Turbo was Changed to a K26 NOS from A Audi 5000 S
Posted by: veekry9 Oct 11 2014, 01:27 AM
Some pistons in photogenic surroundings
you can see what you can hear in the clip.
beauty is in the ear of the beholder
Posted by: rtalich Oct 11 2014, 01:55 PM
QUOTE(veekry9 @ Oct 11 2014, 12:27 AM)
Some pistons in photogenic surroundings
you can see what you can hear in the clip.
beauty is in the ear of the beholder
Those truly are things of beauty!!
Posted by: rtalich Oct 11 2014, 07:17 PM
QUOTE(nein14 @ Oct 10 2014, 07:50 AM)
CONGRADS !! ON YOUR TURBO MOD YOU DIDN;T KNOW YOU CAN'T TURBO A 914
Thanks!! What is that intercooler out of? This will be my next 'upgrade'.
Posted by: nein14 Oct 12 2014, 06:16 AM
[quote name='rtalich' date='Oct 11 2014, 06:17 PM' post='2096701'] [quote name='nein14' post='2096160' date='Oct 10 2014, 07:50 AM'] CONGRADS !! ON YOUR TURBO MOD YOU DIDN;T KNOW YOU CAN'T TURBO A 914 [/quote]
Thanks!! What is that intercooler out of? This will be my next 'upgrade'. [/quote
I tried several with not great results off different cars until I ran accross this one came off Turbo charged Plane
Posted by: veekry9 Oct 12 2014, 02:27 PM
QUOTE(nein14 @ Oct 10 2014, 06:09 PM)
I made a lot of upgrades....Turbo was changed to a K26 NOS from A Audi 5000 S
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=15595
A link to data on K26-6/-8 ,for those of you who need Turbo 914-4.