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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ NEW 2.0L Rods..We need buyers to make this happen

Posted by: Dominic Jan 17 2005, 08:53 PM

http://shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=80648

Read the whole thread if you are interested in new and improved....(400 grams lighter) 2.0L rods for your 914.

Jake is talking about $280.00 a set, but it won't happen unless he gets enough buyers lined up. IPB Image
For that price you could afford to put a set on the shelf and keep them for the next rebuild. IPB Image

I'm buying at least 2 sets....who else wants to see this happen ?
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Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 17 2005, 09:13 PM

my goal is eventually put together a 2056, for a number of reasons. they would have to be set up for the 71mm stroke. do you think the performance gain will be worth the cost? i'm waiting to see what will be available and what items are going to cost when jake's store is open.

kevin

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 17 2005, 09:31 PM

If it wasn't worth the cost I would not be attempting this..
The weakest link in a TIV is those heavy ass rods that cost 140 bucks just to outfit with better bolts.

These rods are a 100% stock replacement, just 400 grams lighter with a 300% stronger bolt.

I have to buy 500 rods to get them made at all, and trust me, thats a chunk of moolah!

These rods selling for 280 bucks a set are cheaper than a rebuilt set of upgraded stock rods, those run 325.00 and are no where near as strong!

I have ran rods with these same characteristics in 300+ HP Turbo engines, with just using an upgraded bolts.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 17 2005, 10:19 PM

tempted. how's it going to work? pay upfront and wait, comitt and you wait? will these be a billet item or cast?

kevin

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 17 2005, 10:26 PM

The rods are an H Beam design, totally forged rod similar in design to a Carrillo.

I don't want ANY money till I have atleast buyers for 50 sets, then I'll get the money and we'll have rods in about a month..

Posted by: ablose58 Jan 17 2005, 11:29 PM

I am in for a set IPB Image IPB Image IPB Image IPB Image IPB Image IPB Image

Posted by: McMark Jan 18 2005, 02:15 AM

I'm in for a set. 500 is only 125 sets. Heh heh heh, I said only. IPB Image

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 18 2005, 02:48 AM

Yeah...... Its only more money than I actually pocketed all last year for those 125 sets, even if I pre sell 50 of them!!

Unless you are the owner of a hack shop that cranks engines out left and right this isn't a very lucrative business.

Posted by: Rick_Eberle Jan 18 2005, 03:27 AM

Can these rods be used with a longer stroke than 71mm??? Or are they too short?I'm thinking 74-76mm.


Rick

Posted by: Walter Jan 18 2005, 07:10 AM

Hi Jake,

Is it a 24mm (stock) or 22mm piston pin?
(strange nobody asked before)

Thanks,
Walter

Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 18 2005, 07:53 AM

Good question Walter! IPB Image

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 18 2005, 09:16 AM

THESE PARTICULAR RODS ARE AN EXACT COPY OF THE 2.0 TYPE 4 ROD!!!!!

SAME LENGTH
SAME BIG END
SAME SMALL END

BUT, 400 grams lighter, H Beam style and equipped with 8740 ARP bolts as standard equipment.

In my opinion the standard length 2.0 rod should be avoided when stroking due to the piston velocities that they create. Sure it can be used, but it will not have the efficiency or rev capability as a proper length rod. When stroking we totally get away from the 2.0 rod journal any way simply because the only bearing available for it is a Bi- Metal OEM unit that can't take alot of point load due to its material and diameter. When stroking we add rod length to correct the rod ratio AND change journal characteristics to allow the use of a better bearing. Hell, my 2316 engines use the EXACT same bearing that NASCAR runs!

We need a rod thats a stock 2.0 replacements- Thats what these are! A set of 2.0 cores costs as much as these do not including having them just rebuilt to stock specs!

I can make any rod, any length, just have to do 500 the same at one pop. I already have my own rods made for my 2270 and 2316 combos.....

This is the reason I have been so cautious about going forward with these, because I won't use many of them myself simply because almost everything we build is a stroker.

Posted by: Walter Jan 18 2005, 09:23 AM

Thanks Jake!
I was afraid you were going to say 22mm pin because so many aftermarket manufactorers use a piston with 22mm small end pin.
Bushing 24mm to 22mm is of course much more easy than the other way around IPB Image so they will still be more universal that way!

I still have a nice set of 6000km used JE's 96mm/barrels with the 24mm pin, so I am pleased to hear this and am in for a set also if they will be available within reasonable time (say 6 months or so) IPB Image

Thanks,
Walter

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 18 2005, 09:32 AM

I don't use a 22 pin till we add stroke......

Then everything gets a 22mm pin.

I just need enough people to commit to buy them.

So far I only have 18 takers and MUST have 50 to do the deal.

Posted by: type11969 Jan 18 2005, 09:35 AM

jake, how would one go about getting on the list?

-Chris

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 18 2005, 03:37 PM

I am setting up an email account just for it...

Posted by: william harris Jan 18 2005, 05:01 PM

Now if I could get somebody to commit to build my motor, I might be interested. Jake is way too busy. No knocks, busy means he is good, but I just can't see getting on the one year waiting list. I was real excited about the Kit Carlson fuel injection, but that seems to have faded away - again! So, now that my damn car is finally getting painted and I got my absolutely perfectly restored main wiring harness (yeah the whole damn thing down to the fuse panel, switches, you name it) restored by good ole Bowlsby and all the harnesses (fuel injection, alternator, etc) that Bowlsby makes - I said to hell with it I will just go back with the D-Jet, so it seems like a close to stock rebuild it will be. Then I still got to find someone to work on the 2.0 heads. Anyhow, for 100 hp how does this make sense? How come everybody likes these cars but nobody (at least nobody close by this frigid berg we call Massachusetts) wants to work on them? Raby, I wish to hell I was in GA, I'd drop the motor off on your door step and come get it in December? God, the 4 degrees outside is getting to me. At least we got the Patriots! IPB Image

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 18 2005, 06:16 PM

William,
The Kit Carlson system has not faded away.

The designer has been very busy with all the details. Making a quality product or kit takes time. He also is an engineer and not a businessman so he had alot of things to do to set up his business and book work- etc...

I talk to him weekly as I continue to test his system and he never talks about not selling the system. I sometimes think its hard for guys to understand just how complex things are when trying to satisfy the buying public these days.

As for my engines:
For the first time EVER I have been able to pinpoint a scheduled engine build down to the week it will be finished. Currently the backlog is 33 engines and that puts us into the 3rd week of September for a delivery date. Its not a full year, although it has been before.

I chose long ago to limit the number of engines we build and provide more quality through more man hours spent on the design and assembly and even the testing of the engine. It takes 80 man hours between Brent and I to create on of our standard engines and up to 120 for a SuperHero.

I have no conmcern with doing a huge amount of engines. In 1997 we did 70 engines, last year we only did 40. The 40 of last year were WAY more developed than the 70 in 1997. Every year I want to keep dropping our volume and upping the quality and development. Hell I will be happy the day that I can build 10 engines per year and make them absolute bad ass... All while supplying the rest of the world with the best parts and designs available for the to do their own work.

The services I offer are unavailable anywhere else. The combos I have designed and the testing put into them is unparalleled. No one else has the coating technology, valve train parts, head specs and overall performance combinations that I do... Thats because they are concerned with volume numbers and keeping 20 employees paid.....

Here its just Brent and I....

Just wait till February and you'll be able to have a "Raby inspired" engine easier than ever before.... Just without our assembly!

Posted by: vsg914 Jan 18 2005, 06:44 PM

You can sign me up for a set, and a set of 96mm KB pistons and suitable ring set too. IPB Image

Posted by: Rocky Jan 18 2005, 06:49 PM

Jake, I like the fact they are stock configuration lighter and stronger. Us Gig Harbor boyz like speed. IPB Image Count me in for a set. rocking nana.gif

Tim

Posted by: william harris Jan 19 2005, 07:18 AM

Jake: Glad to hear the Kit Carlson project is still moving forward. I will definitely wait to February for the details of the new project you have up your sleeve. Man, this warms me up even if it is 0 outside today. My garage door is frozen to the floor!!! IPB Image

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 19 2005, 07:33 AM

i'm in.

kevin

Posted by: william harris Jan 19 2005, 08:36 AM

OK, Chris Foley says I'm in. IPB Image He's the man! IPB Image

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 19 2005, 02:39 PM

Okay guys.

I set up this email address to help manage my product development lists better.

productdevelopment@aircooledtechnology.com

Go ahead and send an email to this account and as the list gets longer and more happens I'll be able to keep you in the queue without taking up forum space..

I really want to make these rods happen and we can do it as long as I sell the 50 sets.

Posted by: Dominic Jan 22 2005, 06:49 AM

Lets get this going! IPB Image

IPB Image Jake is the man!

Posted by: Bleyseng Jan 22 2005, 11:28 AM

How many are sold now??

Geoff

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 22 2005, 11:56 AM

Not even 25 sets...

Need atleast 25 more.

Posted by: Cloudbuster Jan 24 2005, 06:07 PM

I think I'd buy a set (or two?), depending on how things are going with Jake's roller lifters. It'd be neat to build a screaming 2056 (or 71x98?).

Posted by: anthony Jan 24 2005, 06:44 PM

96mm jugs for a 2056. Jake, I'm waiting 7 days to see what's up at your new online store before I say yes on this deal. I'm thinking that I'd rather have a 2270.

Posted by: rdauenhauer Jan 24 2005, 07:13 PM

I think I like to go that route as well but the first step is make it run ...Im in. IPB Image

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 24 2005, 08:45 PM

still need 17 more sets sold before we can do it!

Posted by: Mueller Jan 24 2005, 08:48 PM

If you don't need the money for a weeks away, count me in for one set......

Posted by: Bleyseng Jan 24 2005, 08:54 PM

Yup. me too for a set.

Geoff IPB Image

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 24 2005, 10:45 PM

15 more to go...

Posted by: Bleyseng Jan 26 2005, 09:53 AM

come on guys.... IPB Image

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 26 2005, 10:06 AM

13 more to go....

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 26 2005, 10:42 AM

Count me in for one set!

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 26 2005, 10:43 AM

send me the email Chris

productdevelopment@aircooledtechnology.com

12 more to go!

Posted by: Dominic Jan 26 2005, 07:21 PM

Bump! 12 More to go! IPB Image

Posted by: Bleyseng Jan 27 2005, 09:14 AM

I can't believe no one else is signing up.... IPB Image

Posted by: Mueller Jan 27 2005, 10:02 AM

this is a killer price people....I was looking at aftermarket stock sized rods for a Subaru and they want $500 for all 4 rods !!!!!...ouch.....so much for thinking the import stuff would be cheaper...

Posted by: anthony Jan 27 2005, 10:05 AM

Waiting to see Jake's online store before I decide. T minus what? 3 days?

Posted by: Cloudbuster Jan 27 2005, 10:15 AM

I don't think the store will make a difference, since both these rods and the store are brought to you by Jake. What options are there compared to this? Rebuilt rods for $210, plus cores.

Posted by: Bleyseng Jan 27 2005, 10:20 AM

plus you can use a std 2.0 crank without getting a special one with chebbie or type 1 rod journals. This is a bargain boys....


Geoff rocking nana.gif

Watch, as soon as Jake sells the 50 sets, 3 months later, there will be 20 guys wanting to buy them.

Posted by: anthony Jan 27 2005, 10:23 AM

QUOTE (Cloudbuster @ Jan 27 2005, 09:15 AM)
I don't think the store will make a difference, since both these rods and the store are brought to you by Jake.  What options are there compared to this?  Rebuilt rods for $210, plus cores.

I had been thinking of building a 2056 and these rods would be perfect but now I'm thinking of moving up to a 2270 or 2316. I just want to see what pricing will be like on a kit from Jake before committing to a 2056.

Posted by: Cloudbuster Jan 27 2005, 10:26 AM

QUOTE (Bleyseng @ Jan 27 2005, 08:20 AM)
Watch, as soon as Jake sells the 50 sets, 3 months later, there will be 20 guys wanting to buy them.


I have the same feeling, making me ponder signing up for a 2nd set. Of course Jake has an additional 75 sets besides 'our' 50.

Posted by: anthony Jan 27 2005, 10:30 AM

Once people sign up for 50 sets the problem will be getting them all to pay. Lots of people often say they want in on group buys but getting them to seal the deal always seems to be a problem.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 27 2005, 10:32 AM

bump. you can't do this with 40 sets confirmed?

kevin

Posted by: Bleyseng Jan 27 2005, 10:41 AM

Anthony, I am moving to a 2366cc with the 103mm Nikkies and using the stock 2.0l crank. Should be a rev er as I am too cheap to buy a new crank and rods to set up a 2270.

Geoff

Posted by: Cloudbuster Jan 27 2005, 10:52 AM

QUOTE (Bleyseng @ Jan 27 2005, 08:41 AM)
I am moving to a 2366cc with the 103mm Nikkies and using the stock 2.0l crank. Should be a rev er as I am too cheap to buy a new crank and rods to set up a 2270.

103x71 mm w/Nickies vs 96x78mm w/iron cylinders. Drastic price diff?

Posted by: Bleyseng Jan 27 2005, 10:54 AM

I wouldn't build a 2270 without the Nikkies. I am too scared of the extra heat!
I am not sure on the exact costs of a 2270 but ya gotta buy..(see Jakes new site)
crank-$500
rods-$200
P&Cs CastIron-$650

So say about $1500 for the basic parts, then add the clearancing, fitting, machining etc so another $1000
so $2500 off the top of my head.
The nikkies can run $3000 for the complete setup whatever size you get. Pistons, cylinders, case bolts, head studs etc.

Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 27 2005, 12:16 PM

QUOTE
I have the same feeling, making me ponder signing up for a 2nd set. Of course Jake has an additional 75 sets besides 'our' 50.


I bet when this deal is done Jakes gonna want more than 280.00 for his 75 sets . This is a killer Deal,

Just a thought IPB Image

Posted by: anthony Jan 27 2005, 01:09 PM

I think I'd be more scared of a 103mm cylinder. Seems huge!

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 27 2005, 01:15 PM

head work. another major factor cost wise, plus finding the right person. i'm trying to target under $3500.

k

Posted by: Bleyseng Jan 27 2005, 01:32 PM

Head sealing is the other problem. Even the 96mm cast iron cylinders can leak/move around. Nikkies stop all that so the 103's work fine. Longer stroke is gud too.
Head work is a must even for a 2056!
Plus the cam ($200) and lifters which for ceramics add $400
My budget is $4k and aim for 150+ hp not including the new EFI.

Geoff

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Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 27 2005, 02:21 PM

A 2270 don't need Nickies!

I have many of them running my cast iron bored German cylinders that run COOLER than a stock 2.0!!

Don't be afraid until you get to a bore larger than 96mm.... Or until you can SUSTAIN an 18HP per cylinder load on the engine.. That means for a long period of time at wide open throttle- Like on the Autobahn...

Nickies are nice- but definately not required for a 2270, less than 5% of the 2270 engines I have built have received Nickies!

The 96mm bore is absloutely universal and I can do more with it than any other bore available....

When my plan here is all domne- there won't be any guesswork.. But you must learn to LISTEN and not QUESTION.... Want power, reliability and longevity?? Listen, open the wallet- Done deal.

As for the rods, they will be 350 bucks a set after I meet my initial quota, if the prices stay the same..... I just need enough orders to get them and thats why I'm making them such a great deal.

Posted by: splashfx Jan 27 2005, 05:14 PM

I'm in for a set.

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 27 2005, 10:25 PM

Well, 3 different people flaked out on me today from the buy.. One of them had wanted 4 sets..

So, I need that many more takers....

Step on up...

Posted by: Bleyseng Jan 27 2005, 11:29 PM

Hey Jake, we sit here and BS so this stays at the top! Cant wait until your site is up and running.

Geoff

Posted by: Rotten Robby Jan 28 2005, 12:46 AM

I will take a set too...

Posted by: Carrera916 Jan 28 2005, 12:58 AM

DAMN.....

I'm gonna get in trouble with the wifey but what the hell...she may not know it's inside the case.... IPB Image

Jake, I just eek-mailed you for a set....errr..maybe two

now...about the nickies.....umm..... IPB Image IPB Image

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 28 2005, 01:53 AM

Rotten Robby,
send me the email...

Two more on board... One more flaked out..

Posted by: Cloudbuster Jan 28 2005, 10:12 AM

So we were at 40 sets
Then we lost 3 people, one of them with 4 sets (6 total?)
Then gained 3
Then lost another

40 - 6 + 3 -1 = 36

14 to go?

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 28 2005, 10:14 AM

15 to go... another one flaked out this morning!

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 28 2005, 10:23 AM

looked and saw no mention of the rod interest at the TYPE4rum at stf.

k

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 28 2005, 11:58 AM

Its on my forum there...
I can't post it at the STF on the T4 forum, they gave me my own page for that stuff...

But someone else can IPB Image

Posted by: Cloudbuster Jan 28 2005, 12:06 PM

Done and done

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=83742
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Posted by: anthony Jan 28 2005, 12:07 PM

There's not a for sale area where you can post it?

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 28 2005, 12:22 PM

well done. if i could remember my password and knew how to add a link i'd go to the bird also. maybe the 10 people that don't visit club and post there don't know about the rods either.

k

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 28 2005, 12:46 PM

Good idea....

Add it now before I'm their competitor!

Posted by: Rocky Jan 28 2005, 02:35 PM

Jake, I tried a few times to email you at the productdevelopment... web address and could not get through. IPB Image Im good for a set as I previously posted, plus I felt the need to give it a BUMP. IPB Image

Tim

Posted by: buck toenges Jan 28 2005, 06:21 PM

Hey, I am planning to get a "kit" from Jake on Feb 1st. A 2270 performer kit. Does this count for 1 set of rods? IPB Image

Posted by: anthony Jan 28 2005, 06:31 PM

No, different rods.

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 28 2005, 06:51 PM

Yep, These rods won't even be available other than this group buy until we get them all here...

Posted by: Bleyseng Jan 28 2005, 06:54 PM

Rolling, rolling,rolling.... IPB Image keeps those doggies rolling....

Posted by: type11969 Jan 29 2005, 06:53 AM

RAWHIDE


. . .


Buy some rods

Posted by: Teknon Jan 29 2005, 09:00 AM

Jake,

Please allow me to be stupid for a while.

I have a 78mm crank I inherited. Said it was from or for a 71mm rod????? If your rods would work on this crank and 96mm can's, I’m in.

I just don't know what the () I'm doing on this engine. (preACT/RAT).

Please Advise

Joe IPB Image

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 29 2005, 04:18 PM

No, these rods are too short for the proper rod ratio when coupled with a 78 stroke crank....

You need RAT 3034 rods for that....

They are already available..

Posted by: Dominic Jan 30 2005, 04:40 PM

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Posted by: Russian019 Jan 30 2005, 10:31 PM

I'm in...... two sets for me please.

Posted by: Dominic Jan 31 2005, 09:44 AM

QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Jan 19 2005, 12:39 PM)
Okay guys.

I set up this email address to help manage my product development lists better.

productdevelopment@aircooledtechnology.com

Go ahead and send an email to this account and as the list gets longer and more happens I'll be able to keep you in the queue without taking up forum space..

I really want to make these rods happen and we can do it as long as I sell the 50 sets.

Send an e-mail to the address above to let Jake know how many sets you want.

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 31 2005, 07:12 PM

lost 3 more sales today.

I have to put a stop to this on Friday and no later than.

I lost more sales today than I gained.

Posted by: vsg914 Jan 31 2005, 07:38 PM

Damnit you guys! quit flaking out! I want a set of these rods, but can't pay for ten sets!!!! Get off the fence! Order a set now, or I'll send Miles and MikeZ to your house!!!!!!

Thank you very muchly.

Posted by: Dominic Jan 31 2005, 09:22 PM

Jake,
How many more set do we have to go to reach 50 ?

I may be able to buy 3 sets to help this order, we'll see how many others can cough up the big $280.00 .........which is pennies compared to a set of Pauter or Carrillo rods. Last time I called Carrillo they wanted around $250.00 for EACH Rod to make a set from scratch.

Come on folks, go turn in the beer cans for your $.05 deposits, look behind those couch cushions & under your drivers seat for some spare change, sell all that crap that's accumulating in your garage on ebay....If you really want to, you can find the $$.
OK, go ahead and empty your child's college fund, trust me the military has an awesome tuition assistance program and it's Free!

Posted by: scotty b Feb 1 2005, 06:56 AM

Is the Bank Of Dominic giving out .loans?? IPB Image

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 1 2005, 08:24 AM

This is becoming a real bitch.

Looks like I'm gonna have to get some checks coming this way soon and just hold them till I have 50 orders paid for in hand.

That way I can just send the checks back if the purchase doesn't go through because of people flaking out.

Posted by: vsg914 Feb 1 2005, 08:41 AM

Jake, where so I send it? It'll go out today.

Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 1 2005, 08:41 AM

Ok, post your address here for us.

Geoff

Posted by: vsg914 Feb 1 2005, 12:57 PM

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Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 1 2005, 02:20 PM

i found it in the lifter fund thread.

Raby Enterprises Inc.
45 Raby Drive
Cleveland GA 30528

Posted by: TROJANMAN Feb 1 2005, 02:50 PM

jake,
my mechanic is doing a rebuild for my 75 2.0. could he use these rods in that rebuild? he is going to charge me to recondition the current rods, so what's another $100.
and how does this help my performance?

Posted by: type11969 Feb 1 2005, 03:46 PM

yes he can use the rods, they fit like a 100% stock part. lighter rods = lower stresses on rod bolts which can fail at higher rpm, less mass for the crank to spin around, etc. All in all a good thing.

Posted by: TROJANMAN Feb 1 2005, 03:55 PM

when can i have them to my mechanic?

is there a horsepower/torque increase?

Posted by: Cloudbuster Feb 1 2005, 04:22 PM

These rods don't exist yet. To do so requires people commit $$$ for 50 sets. The monetary commitment hasn't happened yet. So far it is emailing Jake with "I'm in for a set"

There'd be some increase in power, and the motor would wind up/down faster.

The big deal is that stock rods are heavy, and the stock rod bolts are weak(ish?). These rods would have less weight and stronger bolts, resulting in better longevity at high RPM. Or am I just full of IPB Image

Posted by: anthony Feb 1 2005, 04:25 PM

Jake, set up a Paypal account for this. Have people paypal you a payment to hold their set of rods.

Posted by: vsg914 Feb 1 2005, 04:39 PM

I think the check is a better deal for all. If all the paypal money has to be returned, who will be stuck with the fee?

Posted by: anthony Feb 1 2005, 04:41 PM

When you refund a paypal payment, the fee gets reversed as long as it's done in 30 days.

Posted by: Dominic Feb 1 2005, 07:21 PM

Anthony,
Are you going to get a set of Rods or have you decided to build the 2270?

Posted by: TROJANMAN Feb 1 2005, 08:22 PM

so if we reach our minimum order, what's the ETA?
plus my mechanic gets cranky when i supply the parts, so i need to make sure these will fit my car, with no follow ups.

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 1 2005, 08:44 PM

Don't send any money yet guys..

I have done away with paypal due to book keeping nightmares with them.

We'll work something out in the next couple of days and I'll let you know.

Posted by: anthony Feb 1 2005, 08:44 PM

I haven't quite decided yet. I've been looking at jake's new site all day.

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 3 2005, 09:45 AM

Okay guys.... Be expecting an email from the Mad Scientist today and get your check books warmed up. I have to make a final call to the manufacturer and lock the price in, then we'll see how many people actually follow through and send me a check.

Posted by: TROJANMAN Feb 3 2005, 09:56 AM

what's the eta?

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 3 2005, 06:44 PM

I'll get you an ETA tomorrow!

Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 3 2005, 06:46 PM

still waiting for an email.

k

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 3 2005, 06:59 PM

I haven't sent them yet.. Prolly tomorrow after I talk to the "man"...

Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 3 2005, 07:21 PM

eta talk had me going for a moment. just waiting for the green light.

k

Posted by: anthony Feb 5 2005, 09:46 AM

Dominic it's obviously time to give up and build a 2270 or 2316. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Dominic Feb 5 2005, 11:39 AM

Anthony,
I won't give in ! Maybe I'm just trying to break the record for the most $$$ spent on 2056cc motor. The only thing I'm missing is a set of nickies $$$$ (that would be the icing on the cake) , but I do have the 96mm biral barrels biggrin.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 5 2005, 01:35 PM

blink.gif confused24.gif .

k

Posted by: sean_v8_914 Feb 5 2005, 03:40 PM

hurry up, I have to buy some dog food

Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 5 2005, 04:15 PM

Anybody get Jakes email?

Posted by: vsg914 Feb 5 2005, 04:48 PM

No email, been waiting.

Posted by: Dominic Feb 5 2005, 05:07 PM

I saw a message from him on the STF boards saying that he was extending the deadline another week. I hope we have all of the potential buyers lined up. It looks like they are helping out the cause all the way from Europe as well......Don't you just love the Type 4 global econemy biggrin.gif

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 6 2005, 07:14 PM

I made the big call on Friday... Got the prices locked in.. BUT the price didn't include rod bolts (I thought it did)

I have to call ARP tomorrow and get pricesw for those and then I can send out all the emails.

Get the check books ready, because I should be asking for checks this week!

The price will change a bit, but buying this many ARP bolts at a time will help with that... I also plan on stocking up on my other stock upgraded bolts at the same time, that should help even further.

We should have a sample rod in a month, then as long as it measures up okay we'll have the finished product 60 days after that, then I still have to balance them.

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 9 2005, 02:04 AM

All emails are sent!

The instructions are very clear!

I have to receive the payment for all 50 sets by March 1, couple that with my funds and pay the Mfr to get this rolling.

If all 50 are not paid for I will return the undeposited checks and money orders to the customers and the deal will have to wait another 18 months.

Make it happen- My address is in the email!

Posted by: ablose58 Feb 9 2005, 05:45 AM

I didn't receive an e-mail ??? cool_shades.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 9 2005, 09:24 AM

i got mine and asked for the invoice notification. hope it will be via email. don't sit on your hands on this one folks or we'll be hosed. will the slight bump in cost include shipping? laugh.gif it's gonna suck if only 48 people come through.

k

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 9 2005, 10:31 AM

ablose, I sent your email at 0245 this morning...

If 48 people come through I will buy the two extra sets myself..

I went over the shipping in the email. The cost won't be trimmed any further, these rods are being sold at a 5% profit in the buy and thats not counting the fact that I have to pay for them to be shipped all over the country to be finished....

Posted by: Dominic Feb 19 2005, 03:30 PM

Have you guys sent Jake a check for the New 2.0L rods ???

If he does not get the money soon this deal will be gone. mad.gif

If you have ever priced a set of Carrillo or Pauter rods for your 914 then you know that this is a steal !

If you ever plan to build a stock 2.0 engine for driving or competition then you should get a set of these rods, we will probably never see a price like this for a set of custom H beam rods that are half the wieght of the stock rod.

It's not too late to send Jake $310.00 for a set of these NEW 2.0L rods....... SEE INFO BELOW:


Please send all funds in the form of check or money order to

Raby Enterprises Inc.
Attn R&D
47 Raby Drive
Cleveland GA 30528


Make checks payable to Raby Enterprises Inc.

Remember that I MUST have all 50 sets of rods sold by March 1

Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 19 2005, 04:07 PM

nice save dominic. i sent a check w/o an invoice to keep things moving forward. remember guys, no mail service on monday.

k

Posted by: anthony Feb 20 2005, 02:08 PM

I'm surprised there aren't shops (like HPH for example) out there that wouldn't want to buy a few sets of these rods to have on hand for customer rebuilds. If 10 shops bought 3 sets each that would be more than half way to 50 sets.

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 20 2005, 02:29 PM

I have been sending invoices a few per day- I don't have time to do them all at once..

The remainder of them will go out on Monday.


Posted by: ablose58 Feb 21 2005, 09:09 PM

Like I said in the other thread ,I never got an e-mail but cashola is going out tommorrow morning! AL

Posted by: splashfx Feb 22 2005, 04:30 PM

Hey Jake,

I was on the list for a set of these rods, but I haven't gotten an invoice/e-mail yet. Did you send out all of the invoices?

Thanks,
Don


Posted by: Dominic Feb 22 2005, 05:16 PM

QUOTE (splashfx @ Feb 22 2005, 02:30 PM)
Hey Jake,

I was on the list for a set of these rods, but I haven't gotten an invoice/e-mail yet. Did you send out all of the invoices?

Thanks,
Don

It's not too late to send Jake $310.00 for a set of these NEW 2.0L rods....... SEE INFO BELOW:


Please send all funds in the form of check or money order to

Raby Enterprises Inc.
Attn R&D
47 Raby Drive
Cleveland GA 30528


Make checks payable to Raby Enterprises Inc.

Remember that I MUST have all 50 sets of rods sold by March 1

(He just extended the date to March 15th, but I would get him the $$$ asap so we can make this happen)

Posted by: splashfx Feb 23 2005, 09:56 AM

The check is in the mail...

Posted by: type11969 Feb 24 2005, 08:24 AM

check sent

and to give Dominic a break

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Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 24 2005, 09:08 AM

Fedex'd a check to Jake.

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Posted by: Dominic Feb 24 2005, 11:16 AM

QUOTE (type11969 @ Feb 24 2005, 06:24 AM)
check sent

and to give Dominic a break

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Thanks Guys! biggrin.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 24 2005, 11:18 AM

a "got your check" notice would be nice to get. i would consider that my invoice. wink.gif

k

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 24 2005, 12:12 PM

On Friday I will send paid invoices to all those that have sent me checks as well as send out the rest of the invoices to those that did not get my first invoice.

This 3 liter has sucked 20 hours a day out of me for two weeks- But it just fired up and now the end is in sight!

Posted by: ablose58 Feb 26 2005, 08:51 AM

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Posted by: Dominic Mar 2 2005, 05:08 PM

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Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 3 2005, 12:18 PM

read this to get a feeling of the futility. ALL 7 pages, from the beginning, and draw your own conclusions. then go back to the "plug pulling" thread. seacrest- OUT!!

k

Posted by: TROJANMAN Mar 3 2005, 01:28 PM

QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Mar 3 2005, 10:18 AM)
read this to get a feeling of the futility. ALL 7 pages, seacrest- OUT!!

k

who says that? idea.gif

Posted by: Lawrence Mar 3 2005, 01:35 PM

Jake concluded the rod deal. I'm closing this thread.

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