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Posted by: VegasRacer Jul 26 2014, 12:40 AM

Rick Cole Auctions. Monterey August 14-17. http://rickcole.com/1973-porsche-914-6/



What will it sell for?


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Posted by: carr914 Jul 26 2014, 02:40 AM

A Conversion? This could be all over the Place with a Monterey Crowd. On one hand they are there to buy Big Bucks cars & could ignore this completely and it sells for $18,000 Or a couple of Drunk Rich Boys think that it is a Real 914-6 and Bid each other up til it sells for $65,000

Posted by: budk Jul 26 2014, 07:20 AM

Seems misleading to list it as a 914-6 .... With no mention of a conversion other than listing the 3 liter 911 engine.

Posted by: partsman Jul 26 2014, 07:36 AM

The front photo is a different car than the rest of the pictures...

Posted by: bdstone914 Jul 26 2014, 07:51 AM

Yeah I saw that too. No driver side side marker.
I don't think the description is misleading.

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 26 2014, 10:46 AM

To the initiated, there is nothing misleading at all. The VIN shows it to be a '73, it says it has a 3.0 liter 911 motor. I wouldn't begin to guess what it would go for but with the rocketry that real six values have experienced, it follows that a really well done conversion will go along for the ride. Will he exceed his $75k in receipts? Probably not but I suspect the number will offend the 914 guys with a strong VW mentality.

These aren't throw-away cars any longer.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jul 26 2014, 11:10 AM

Selling with no reserve. Personally, I find the dif pictures completely bogus. Whether for the initiated or not.

Posted by: larryM Jul 26 2014, 11:25 AM

a rising tide lifts all... or so we hope

conversion owners may finally have vindication for the tons of money spent

(... makes for a good argument to the significant other)

Posted by: boxsterfan Jul 26 2014, 04:43 PM

if I was a multi-millionaire with little concern for money, I'd bid up to $50K on it. I couldn't do it myself for that.

Posted by: Bob L. Jul 26 2014, 05:36 PM

In the photo in post 1, it looks like a matchbox car. Or is it just me?

Posted by: rgalla9146 Jul 26 2014, 05:55 PM

First pic is a stock photo of a very nice real Euro 6. That's balls.
As I first read it I thought Holy Cow ! somebody found a single car that was actually manufactured in '73
Of course it's common knowledge that the last cars were made in '72
But Hey ! This is an auction we're talkin' about.
Caveat Emptor !

Posted by: Big Len Jul 26 2014, 07:46 PM

Takin' a guess....$38,500.

Posted by: Hank914 Jul 26 2014, 08:33 PM

I like it, Big Len!

My guess = $40,250

But if the rich boys are really drunk and ignorant, could top $50K just on the marketing. I can just see the bidders package and hear the auctioneer....

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jul 26 2014, 10:51 PM

Makes you wonder how many bidders are even aware of these conversions. A smart buyer will crawl all around the car in the holding area and do a thorough visual. Maybe even view all of those receipts. The phone bidder stands the best chance of over paying for this non factory 9146.
I think that the auction company must present this conversion as a "914 6 Tribute" car, or there might be after sale legal problems.
I'd pay no more than $23,500 (inc. Commission) this conversion. Best of luck to the new owner !
Marty

Posted by: VegasRacer Jul 27 2014, 01:16 AM

They changed it. They took the stock photo down.

They also added an engine picture.


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Posted by: DEC Jul 27 2014, 05:57 AM

and the description says now

CAR HIGHLIGHTS

Non Original Example in Show Condition
Built from an Original Blue Plate California 914
3-Liter 911 Engine; Carerra 915 5-Speed
Over $75,000 in receipts; 16" Refurbished Fuchs
Momo Steering Wheel; Mahle High Compression Pistons

Posted by: draganc Jul 27 2014, 09:17 AM

Imho, I think that the add is absolutely misleading.

The car has nothing to do with a real 914-6 (which is a very specific description of a car model).

Yes, they stated non orginal; however a real 914-6 with after market rims and a 3L engine is also non original.

I think it will sell for $45k, because of the "challenging" description.

Posted by: Cuda911 Jul 27 2014, 09:47 AM

Is this like Price Is Right? If so, I'll top Hank914 and go with $40,250.01.

Posted by: patssle Jul 27 2014, 10:01 AM

As somebody doing a 3.0 conversion...please do bid higher! Not that I'll ever sell.....

Posted by: bcheney Jul 27 2014, 11:38 AM

Correct it has nothing to do with a real -6 however it's better in almost every way than a real -6. Quality conversions are so much nicer that real -6's in IMHO. With only a little over 3K real -6's produced they will always command an originality premium.

Posted by: Mark Henry Jul 27 2014, 02:08 PM

Damn straight...I wouldn't think of selling my '74 3.0 for under $40 when done.

Posted by: Nine_14 Jul 27 2014, 02:46 PM

Watching the pics for the first time i have had the same impression.

Posted by: GeorgeRud Jul 27 2014, 05:37 PM

Having one of each, I can tell you that the conversion car is a lot more fun. 200 hp instead of 110, you do the math. Plus, I don't have to be as paranoid when I'm driving it around town!

To do one correctly with all the desirable parts, $50,000 is low end if you are doing the work yourself. It'll be interesting to see what it is bid up to.

Posted by: swooshdave Jul 27 2014, 05:39 PM

It's a camera technique to blur the object to make it seem smaller.

Posted by: 914Sixer Jul 28 2014, 11:30 AM

George is correct. Conversion cars car a better car in my opinion. You can take any model, early or late and do what you want. Any thing from a stock -6 to a full on 3.6. There are so many options and combinations it is mind blowing. The sky is the limit.

Posted by: JmuRiz Jul 28 2014, 11:37 AM

If it goes for $$$, maybe i should keep the 2.7's CIS system on it when I install and sell the carbs off for $1750 in my pocket.....nah.

Should be interesting. I surely won't have $50k into my conversion when I'm done...unless I put $20k into the engine. And I haven't skimped on parts either.

Posted by: nine11speedster Jul 29 2014, 05:47 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-914-6-Well-Sorted-Restored-1971-Factory-914-6-/281397789516?forcerrptr=true&hash=item41849d834c&item=281397789516&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

IMHO this one is much more interesting; at least it has a real 914-6 VIN. And i must say the price is very attractive too.

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 29 2014, 06:06 PM

So if I follow your logic, my 3.2 conversion cannot be called a 914-6 because it has "nothing to do with a real 914-6." So help me. What do I call it? Perhaps a 914-4.5?

All of those things are stated in the ad. As I stated, the initiated know that the original 6 would have a 914 serial#, 14" Fuchs wheels, a 2.0 liter 6 engine, an ignition key on the dashboard to the left of the steering column... The ad clearly states a VIN, states it's a 3.0, states it has 16" refurbished Fuchs, I'm having a problem seeing how this is "absolutely misleading?" I could tell it was a conversion within seconds. Are you looking for the word 'conversion?' Would that make it less misleading for you?

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 29 2014, 09:22 PM

Stock Six Fuchs wheel was a 14" x 5.5". I have a full set on my car, including the spare.

Posted by: nine11speedster Aug 18 2014, 04:28 AM

It sold for USD$41,384 (plus 10% premium)....
Could that be a record for a conversion?

Posted by: Steve Aug 18 2014, 07:59 AM

I think that is a record, but was it more than the build cost?

Posted by: Kansas 914 Aug 18 2014, 10:53 AM

The ad states there are $75k in receipts...

Non Original Example in Show Condition
Built from an Original Blue Plate California 914
3-Liter 911 Engine; Carerra 915 5-Speed
Over $75,000 in receipts; 16" Refurbished Fuchs
Momo Steering Wheel; Mahle High Compression Pistons

Posted by: SchwarzHorse Aug 18 2014, 03:23 PM

So, spend $75,000 and sell at $41, 384 for a $33,616 loss ?
I understand that punishing lesson.

Posted by: carr914 Aug 18 2014, 03:56 PM

I don't think that is a record - I think that Fordall Car sold for more last year