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Posted by: dudzy's914 Jul 27 2014, 05:57 PM
I am restoring my 1975 914 2.0l, with stock FI, center console. It will be black with 2.0l fuchs. I am restoring it to ''as it rolled out''.
I want to get a sense of what the car will be worth( I know the market will go up and down).
thx
Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jul 27 2014, 06:05 PM
It depends on how you define 'perfect'.
One member here broke through the $40K ceiling last year.
Posted by: dudzy's914 Jul 27 2014, 06:15 PM
It depends on how you define 'perfect'.
One member here broke through the $40K ceiling last year.
Did he have a thread? Do you know what he did?
By perfect, I mean nothing wrong, not a scratch or blemish.
Posted by: Hank914 Jul 27 2014, 06:19 PM
It depends on how you define 'perfect'.
One member here broke through the $40K ceiling last year.
And was it a restoration or was it original?
Posted by: dudzy's914 Jul 27 2014, 06:22 PM
It depends on how you define 'perfect'.
One member here broke through the $40K ceiling last year.
And was it a restoration or was it original?
+1
Posted by: scotty b Jul 27 2014, 06:28 PM
The car will never be worth what you put into it. I've told several if your resto is based on the cars final value, go find a solid, complete 550 in a barn and you'll be o.k.
If the car Jeff is referring to is the one I am thinking of it was ORIGINAL and very low mileage. For a PERFECTLY restored car you could probably drop that by 7500.00-10K. But then again how PERFECT are you planning on ? Buying a frame bench and fixtures to ensure it is in perfect spec? Buying a 23,000.00 spot welder to duplicate the factory welds ? Getting the right amount of orange peel ? Tracking down N.O.S. parts ?
Not trying to be an asshat, just pointing out that one mans perfect is another mans nice driver
Posted by: dudzy's914 Jul 27 2014, 06:42 PM
I won't have to put much into it giving it's already mostly restored
Posted by: mepstein Jul 27 2014, 06:49 PM
I won't have to put much into it giving it's already mostly restored
"Restored" is a tricky word.
Posted by: dudzy's914 Jul 27 2014, 06:56 PM
I won't have to put much into it giving it's already mostly restored
"Restored" is a tricky word.
Really all I have to do is bodywork/paint. And a few odds and ends
Posted by: Cuda911 Jul 27 2014, 09:47 PM
Rather vague info., dudzy, But if your definition of a "perfect" restoration and mine are similar, I would imagine in the $20 to $25 k range, as a rough ballpark number. But, too many variables, really, to assess your specific car.
Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jul 27 2014, 11:17 PM
I misremembered...it went for $38K. It had steel wheels no less, bust was as close to a perfect 914/4 as you will ever see.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=205535&st=0
Posted by: KELTY360 Jul 28 2014, 06:35 AM
Have you looked closely at any fully restored 914s? For high $$ cars, it's the details that count. Fit and finish of body panels, correct plating of fasteners, perfect trim, correct wiring and hoses, meticulous detailing. Documentation of mechanical servicing and past ownership is also important. There is a big difference between a refurbished car and a restored car. Do the research to understand how high the bar is set for the top dollar cars.
Good luck.
Posted by: carr914 Jul 28 2014, 06:52 AM
I won't have to put much into it giving it's already mostly restored
"Restored" is a tricky word.
Really all I have to do is bodywork/paint. And a few odds and ends
Then you have $7,000 to 10,000 worth of work to do to make it perfect!
Posted by: johannes Jul 28 2014, 07:46 AM
What also will change the value is
Does it have sway bars installed ?
75 cars are less valuable due to the heavy big bumpers.
Is this a Californian car with catalysator ?
Posted by: dudzy's914 Jul 28 2014, 09:52 AM
What also will change the value is
Does it have sway bars installed ?
75 cars are less valuable due to the heavy big bumpers.
Is this a Californian car with catalysator ?
no and no.
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jul 28 2014, 11:33 AM
Some of us that attended or visited the Parade this year in Monterey had a chance to see the restored '72 911 that was featured in Pano. This car was a clear case of the definition of "over restored" NO Porsche EVER left the factory in that condition. EVER. While the 914 was, for the time, a pretty nice car off the assembly line, none were up to the standards of the 911. A perfect restoration, one with ONLY the original equipment and NO aftermarket sourced parts, would (as Scotty mentioned) have "just" the right amount of orange peel in the paint, the correct factory applied undercoat, the paint marks applied to confirm final assembly torques (including the ones on the lug bolts, a sort of frosty looking light green), applied at just the right angles, no radio or antenna, period appropriate tires, a Varta battery, fuses of the correct shade of white, blue, and red, and many other little details that few people really know. Even the crappy, insufficient spot welds in the under-designed trunk hinge brackets. It will have the correctly colored vacuum hoses as delivered, and the hidden (and not-hidden) assembly numbers. Anything less than this is a "refurbishing", anything more is a "personalization", not a restoration. Can that be done?. Probably. Would I want to spend the kind of money and the YEARS it would take to source all that stuff? Probably not in this lifetime. Could you get your money (and time!) out of it. Maybe yes, as there are fools out there with waaaaay too much money and a corresponding inverse level of sense. Whether some bizarre happenstance throws you, the seller, and that particular buyer together at the same place and at the same time is a matter of chance and luck. Mostly, you're gonna lose your butt on the project.
Posted by: dudzy's914 Jul 28 2014, 11:39 AM
Thats guys, I have decided on another path.
Posted by: scotty b Jul 28 2014, 11:41 AM
Thats guys, I have decided on another path.
Miata ?
Posted by: dudzy's914 Jul 28 2014, 01:18 PM
Thats guys, I have decided on another path.
Miata ?
Absolutely not! I'm not a trader!
...another path with my 2.0l. Not going as high-end
Posted by: PanelBilly Jul 28 2014, 05:07 PM
It's an evil road to make a car close to original. Seems everything you touch needs to be renewed in a matter that takes not only skill but research. Do what you like and hope someone else shares your vision.
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