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Posted by: JRust Aug 5 2014, 10:10 PM

I opened my garage tonight to troubleshoot wiring. There was a smokey smell in it pretty strong. No smoke though so I was a little confused. I look in my rear trunk which was open as I was testing ECU wiring the previous night. I did pull one of the 3 relays last night that sit by my ECU. Just wanted to grab some in town to swap out & rule those out as a possible problem. I did not leave the key on or anything. I didn't think to pull the ground. I don't see why I'd need to as all I did was pull a relay. HOW the fuch does this happen just sitting?

I admit I am no genius with wiring but really? How could pulling a relay catch my car on fire?

I guess I should feel lucky as this happened in my closed garage with nobody the wiser. It is also just the battery & into my trunk. I sure as hell don't feel lucky. I feel like I got kicked in the nuts repeatedly really hard


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Posted by: messix Aug 5 2014, 10:13 PM

WTF!

Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 5 2014, 10:15 PM

Wow!

Ship it to my house. I'll have it fixed up in a jiffy...

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 5 2014, 11:06 PM

direct short to the battery? holy moly!!

Posted by: JStroud Aug 5 2014, 11:33 PM

That really sucks Jamie!!!

If you want it fixed quick...Mike's your man...he's crazy good at electrical.
Good luck.

Posted by: Jon H. Aug 6 2014, 04:43 AM

I once melted down the batteries and associated wiring on a an old bulldozer. I killed the battery trying to start it and the current that was going through the starter solenoid fused it closed, the battery was so dead the starter stopped turning. I left and unbeknownst to me current was still flowing. I went back the next day like you and it was a mess. Maybe one of your relays did the same thing Were they the right amperage for the application? Did you leave your key in the run position over night?

Jon H.

Posted by: billh1963 Aug 6 2014, 05:57 AM

You were lucky you didn't lose the house!

Posted by: Olympic 1.7 Aug 6 2014, 06:33 AM

Never saw a battery melt down like that!!

Posted by: pcar916 Aug 6 2014, 07:08 AM

Nuts! Good luck with the repairs.

Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Aug 6 2014, 07:25 AM

Damn.... Thats going to be alot of work to repair. You are very lucky you didn't burn up the whole car. Does not look like it damaged the ecu($1100). Think I'd just get a new harness from outfront.
In your trouble shooting thread I warned you to be careful. Didn't think it would be like this.

Posted by: Chris H. Aug 6 2014, 07:32 AM

That sucks man. Sorry that happened to you. Could have been a LOT WORSE though. Didn't even realize that was your battery!

Mike is an electrician. He can fix that easily.

Posted by: JRust Aug 6 2014, 08:01 AM

Yeah I was going to call Outfront today about a harness. I thought I was being careful. I still don't get how pulling that one relay would cause this. I did not leave the key turned on. I have fuses on all the power wires. Well I thought there were anyway. I didn't wire this but it looked that way. I'll pull the battery tonight & start cleaning up the mess.

I am very thankful it wasn't worse. Not only my car but my whole garage is safe. I can rewire clean up & nobody would even know looking at my car. So I consider myself lucky while feeling fairly screwed at the same time . Well shit happens & you move on. Moving on today. At least I will have a more intimate knowledge of the wiring in my car now right

Posted by: Dave_Darling Aug 6 2014, 08:09 AM

Pulling out a relay should not have caused that. My bet is that there was some other cause. It may have been that the relay was somehow preventing that other cause from manifesting (it may have even been physically holding two wires apart?) but it was not the cause.

--DD

Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Aug 6 2014, 08:14 AM

I can't see how pulling the relay caused this. What I think is when you pulled the relay you also pulled on the harness and maybe shorted some wires in the harness.
I'm helping someone now with a Stinger ECU and a outfront wiring harness it looked a little different that the one you have.

Posted by: 76-914 Aug 6 2014, 08:28 AM

Bob has the right idea, Jamie. Order another harness then remove an old wire and plug in the new one. While your in there double check each to be sure it was in the correct position (which it probably was as it ran for a long time w/o this problem). You'll find it! Or, take Mike up on his offer!

Posted by: ww914 Aug 6 2014, 08:37 AM

Wow, what a mess. I would think that to do that kind of damage to the battery, there had to be a direct short somewhere. Hope you find out what caused it.

Posted by: effutuo101 Aug 6 2014, 08:45 AM

that is just terrible. I am sorry to see this Jamie. hope you find the cause and get her fixed.

Posted by: McMark Aug 6 2014, 09:38 AM

Man that sucks! It's gonna be a fairly big job to sort out, but like you said, you'll be intimately familiar with the wiring after this. And if there is a silver lining (tin lining?), you'll be able to go through the wiring and develop a wiring diagram so you know where and how everything is run, as well as make any changes you need to at that point.

I think the origination of the issue is these wires here. Something in that area could have been rubbing which exposed the wires. Maybe there was even a bare spot, maybe while pulling the relay it scraped enough to expose the wires. From there the wires got hot along the whole length and one wire melted to another wire and that got hot and then compounded from there.


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Posted by: StratPlayer Aug 6 2014, 10:19 AM

That sucks

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 6 2014, 10:23 AM

My knowledge of thing electrical is fairly limited but is it possible that the battery hold down plate was touching the positive terminal? From the picture it looked really close to the terminal. It looks like part of it burned away. Sorry for the bad luck Jamie. Now get busy.

Posted by: Tom Aug 6 2014, 12:13 PM

Jamie,
Here is some advice. If it happened once, it can happen again. Something was wrong and may have been that way for a while. Take the car to Mike and let him straighten it out. Afterward you will have a schematic of where the wires go and he will make sure to put fuses where they should be.
Without a schematic, you can not say pulling a relay could have or could not have caused this. Depends on where and what type of relay it was and exactly what it functioned to do. At least after Mike finishes, he will have some kind of schematic that will tell you what all of the relays do and then later if something does not work, you can use the schematic to troubleshoot the problem.
Tom

Posted by: Spoke Aug 6 2014, 12:31 PM

Wow, that sucks.

Good thing it didn't catch other stuff on fire and burn the entire 914 and garage.

Looking at the damage, one has to wonder if the battery was shorted, burned, and burned the electronics, or the electronics burned and cause the battery to burn.

It would seem that a heavy current drain from the electronics would not cause the battery to burn. The battery should be able to drain 10, 20A without burning up.

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 6 2014, 01:12 PM

things really go south right after the connection point under the plastic cover next to the ex-battery. the big reds from that point back to the bat have cooked a bit but after that it's crispy critters. i think things could have wired in a more 'proper' fashion, like the amp and other sections with materials other than household wire nuts and electrical tape to secure things. i'm not meaning to bag on you.

k

Posted by: SLITS Aug 6 2014, 01:56 PM

China Syndrome.

Posted by: Mark Henry Aug 6 2014, 02:36 PM

Wow!
I don't know if you are unlucky... or horse shoes up the arse lucky for not burning down the house.

Posted by: billh1963 Aug 6 2014, 03:02 PM

I'm paranoid about fires. All 12 of my "toy" cars have battery disconnect switches or terminals. It not only keeps the battery from draining between drives but minimizes chances of what you just experienced!

Posted by: JRust Aug 6 2014, 07:32 PM

I do have full coverage with Hagerty. While putting in a claim will make my premium go up. I'm thinking this is going to end up costing a couple grand when it's all said & done. Anyone see any problem with the insurance possibly denying the claim? I'm not exactly sure if this was my fault or what?

Posted by: billh1963 Aug 6 2014, 07:36 PM

It will be interesting to see what Hagerty says. If it's under $2 k or so I would pay out of pocket...that's just me. I wouldn't want an insurance claim for such a small amount. I would rather save the hassle and resultant premium increases and such for something major!

Posted by: JRust Aug 6 2014, 07:45 PM

Thing is if I have a shop do anything it will easily run over that. I have paint that will need done in both the trunk & engine bay. The wiring may need to be redone completely. Not sure if this has gotten into the loom in the tunnel. It will certainly have to come out to be sure. Odds are good there will be some things on my motor that will need replaced. Yes I can do all that work cheaper. I'll just have to sell some shit to pay for it. Which I can do. Just weighing the pro's & cons of making a claim or not

Posted by: billh1963 Aug 6 2014, 08:14 PM

I understand what you are saying. Does the policy include electrical fires? Accident and collision are obviously covered. Even fires related to fuel issues are covered. I'm just wondering if this would be considered to be in the same category as a mechanical failure? We need an insurance person to chime in....

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 6 2014, 08:40 PM

how much will your premium increase per month if you file a claim?

Posted by: JRust Aug 6 2014, 08:47 PM

I have no idea. Was hoping someone had & could enlighten me

Posted by: KELTY360 Aug 6 2014, 10:35 PM

It's been a long time, but I had a claim with Hagerty for a small incident and they were great. They followed up frequently to make sure I was getting proper repairs and my premium didn't increase either. Unlike typical insurance companies, I've always felt they were part of the 'team'. I wouldn't hesitate to call them for advice on the situation. JMO

Posted by: JRust Aug 6 2014, 10:57 PM

Yeah I think I will call them tomorrow. My coverage is great & I have zero deductible. So I may as well see what they have to say. I won't be any worse off finding out. I was going to start tearing stuff out tonight but figured I better not touch anything yet.

Really looks to have started with my main power wire running from the starter to the battery. Seeing the damage that makes more sense than the smaller wires up top by the relay. Which coincidentally sit right above the wire running to my starter. Who the hell knows though with this stuff. It sucks & I'm depressed about my car. At the same time I feel blessed it was not worse. I've never seen a battery melted that way. Knowing all the heat was right above my fuel pump & lines. I am counting my blessings my car didn't explode & take the garage with it

Posted by: rick 918-S Aug 7 2014, 12:41 AM

Wish I. Could offer some advise but I. Got nothing.

Posted by: wndsrfr Aug 7 2014, 06:02 AM

Internal short in the battery? What brand is .....was....it?

Posted by: arkitect Aug 7 2014, 06:34 AM

Jaime,
I'm sorry that this happened to you. Hope you figure it out and get back on the road without to much expense. Be interesting to see what Hagerty says.

Dave

Posted by: 76-914 Aug 7 2014, 08:07 AM

I was wondering the same thing. I'm not an electrical guru but wouldn't a short on anything small, i.e 8ga and smaller, burn through the wire before melting the battery???? I made the starter cover much larger after I noticed how close the Suby starter wire was to the trunk.

Posted by: JRust Aug 7 2014, 10:52 AM

Called Hagerty to submit a claim. We will see where it goes from there once the adjustor comes out. I'll update here after they come. The adjustor is supposed to call me within 24 hours. Then setup a time to come take a look. I imagine it will be next week before that happens.

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Posted by: JRust Aug 8 2014, 01:17 PM

Adjustor came out. I think it was a little over his head. He really had no clue what to do on it. So it is heading to a shop. Then I'll get more info from them but I don't think I'll have a problem with insurance covering it. Really didn't sound like it. I may have gotten lucky with a shop. Called Outfront Motorsports where Dean got the ECU & wiring harness. They are really backed up on that work. Was thinking of taking it down to their shop to make sure everything was done right. He said they are like 5 months out though .
I asked if he knew of any shops in Oregon they would recommend. They have a guy who just moved up here & is opening a shop in Bend. It's called suby tech HQ. Guy's name is Mike & after talking with him. I'll be towing my car over there to get the work done. He has done multiple conversions & didn't have a problem taking it on. He is also literally just opening so I can get in pretty quick. Only downside is he heads Japan next month.
So if I have any holdups with insurance or whatever. I definitely won't have it back in time for Red Rocks. Which sucks but if it doesn't happen oh well. I want it done right & will wait.

Overall this sucks with my car. The more I see it the more I feel very lucky it wasn't worse. I've never seen a battery melt like that. So glad it was a dry cell or this would have been a very different story. Seeing my fuel pump & lines fairly close. Scares the shit out of me man. My garage seriously could have gone up pretty quick. I will keep with the updates on the insurance side of things. I appreciate all the kind words from everyone

Posted by: Chris H. Aug 8 2014, 01:32 PM

Sounds like you're on the right track! Get er done right! Now it will smell good AND run well.

And yeah, you WERE LUCKY. Even if there was some excess vapor in the intake...coulda been really bad news.

Speaking of kind words...nice job packing the flares. Seriously top notch. And I'm sure you got some offers to sell them for more $$$ so thanks for being the stand-up guy that you are and honoring the unwritten 914World sellers code. Someday I'll make my car look like a Laguna Blue version of yours. Kinda funny since you have a Laguna Blue car now that the flares were originally for.

Posted by: KELTY360 Aug 8 2014, 02:16 PM

This is what I was wondering also. Did the adjuster say anything specific about electical fires?

Posted by: Bartlett 914 Aug 8 2014, 03:00 PM

What kind of battery was that? Was it a lithium? Laptop computers had a problem with the batteries burning up. Once there is an internal short there becomes a snowball effect. It could be as simple as a defective battery.

Posted by: JRust Aug 8 2014, 04:41 PM

My claims lady mentioned electrical fires. If a specific part started the fire. That part itself would not be covered. Any damage it caused would be. So I feel pretty good there. I did get an email saying they need a police or fire report. Of course I did neither of those. So called the fire dept & waiting to hear if they can do a cold fire investigation. Hope to hear back from them but it will most likely be next week there too. So I am kinda stuck until next week anyway

Posted by: sawtooth Aug 9 2014, 06:24 PM

Wow Jamie, so sad to see this and so thankful it wasn't any worse. The battery was from CarQuest, an NGT EXTREME AGM.

Posted by: JRust Aug 16 2014, 07:57 PM

Dropped my car off at Subie Tech HQ in Bend Oregon. Mike is a really cool guy who loves doing suby conversions. This is the first 914 he has worked on. He's done quite a few Vanagon conversions. Just moved up from the LA area. He has worked with Outfront motorsports & in their shop. Which is where my ECU & wiring harness was bought. Really felt good about leaving it with him.

He'll be dropping the drivetrain monday. Really depends how far my wiring harness is screwed into the cab. Overall the damage goes from my battery back into the trunk by the ECU. Where my wiring harness splits by the firewall it is melted by the battery. Doesn't look to have gone far but that will add some time if I have to replace the wiring all the way into the cab. As it stands now looking at a new wiring harness from Outfront along with an ECU. There is some damage to it that didn't show in the pics. Between that & getting the firewall repainted along with some of the trunk. This repair bill is going to get up there a bit. I feel good it is going to be done right though. With him just opening I am getting top priority so he will be getting into this week pretty heavy.

Barring trouble with Insurance or a delay getting my wiring harness & ECU from Outfront. I have a decent shot at having it back for Red Rocks. I'm not going to hold my breath there though. Pretty much everything will need to go just right for that to happen. Odds are better it will be into october as he leaves to go to Japan for 3 weeks in September. Everyone keep your fingers crossed it all goes perfect

Posted by: steuspeed Aug 16 2014, 09:34 PM

Bummer your car caught on fire, but very lucky you didn't lose the whole car and garage. Even a few thousand dollar claim will be pretty small compared to injury or total loss claims on most classic cars. A cracked Ferrari windshield probably costs that much. You made the right move. Sounds like it's on the way back. I sure would like to see that car in person one day.

Posted by: 76-914 Aug 23 2014, 07:43 AM

Any updates, Jamie?

Posted by: pete-stevers Aug 23 2014, 09:33 AM

I am glad you didnt lose the whole shop!!

Posted by: 914nola Aug 23 2014, 12:52 PM

Is that synergy green?

Posted by: JRust Aug 23 2014, 04:27 PM

Yes Synergy green!

Not much of an update. It is at the shop but waiting on the insurance appraiser to come to the shop. Was hoping it would happen this week & it didn't. Kind as crews with things as I was really hoping he'd be able to tear into it this week. He really can't until they verify all the damage. There was quite a bit more than the original adjustor though. Event hough he didn't do an official appraisal. With so much custom work done with the motor conversion. He just had no clue what to put down.

Mike did find more damage. Some evaporator lines melted in the intake. Also at least one injector had the oring melt. We'll see overall when I get the insurance go ahead. I'll need to have the firewall repainted as well as some of the rear trunk. I'm also looking into some improvements I can have done with this work. Considering adding a turbo

Posted by: Sleepin Aug 23 2014, 05:46 PM

Wow Jamie! This was the first I had heard about this! Sorry to hear about it, but I am really glad it was not any worse (or a lot worse)!

Hope you can get it up and going by RRC! I was looking forward to seeing you and the car. A turbo would be a nice addition though!

Posted by: speed metal army Aug 23 2014, 09:53 PM

I use one of these in every old vehicle I own. Paranoid? Yep, you bet. Jamies car is proof crazy crap can happen even while not running!
Good to hear you found someone you feel comfortable with working on your car!
I wouldn't hand that job over to just anyone either.

Posted by: 914nola Aug 24 2014, 08:41 PM

[quote name='JRust' date='Aug 23 2014, 02:27 PM' post='2077284']
Yes Synergy green!

I love it

Posted by: ruby914 Aug 25 2014, 01:17 AM

Wow, Jamie
I just found out about this.

I am hoping the damage is limited but the way wires fuze together and short the next one, it's hard to be optimistic. Sorry.
I think, you are lucky it was an Outfront harness and not a Suby harness. You don't want to know the things you would learn rewiring a Suby harness.
Mark brought up a good point. I see you are missing some sheet metal edge trim. Do you have any before photos? We may something that stands out.
Good luck with the fix.

Posted by: Kraftwerk Aug 26 2014, 10:35 AM

Put two smoke alarms in your garage one hardwired and one battery operated.. good luck with the fix. Love that color!

Posted by: JRust Sep 1 2014, 10:07 PM

Well the damn insurance adjustor's screwed me some. Car sat at the shop for 2 weeks waiting for them to come look at it. I had a shot of getting it back in Time for Red Rocks. It was a slim chance but they screwed that for sure. They finally came today so 2 weeks that could shave been getting work done is down the drain. Mike from Suby tech is pulling the drivetrain tomorrow. He heads out to Japan for 3 weeks first of next week. So my car will be off getting the firewall & rear trunk repainted while he is gone. Also Outfront will be working on a new wiring harness & getting the new ECU ready.

When he get's back I hope to have all the parts to have it back together. I'm still looking into options for adding a turbo. Odds are it will have to wait. The new ECU will be setup to add it along with the a/c. I'll be a happy guy eventually. It sucks having it gone so long though. I sure miss driving my 914 in this beautiful weather

Posted by: rick 918-S Sep 2 2014, 06:41 AM

Sorry I haven't really posted for you but I was in training the last three weeks with very little time.

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but have the shop narrow down the electrical issue to one part. The if the appraiser excludes the electrical it can be the one part of the electrical and not the entire electrical system. This will give you a broader coverage. Hope my post isn't too late.

Oh, and if the fire dept will check the car out at the shop maybe they shop owner and the fire dept investigator can work together the pin point the issue. That way the fire report will reflect the single item making it easier for the claim rep to afford a broader coverage. It's all in the documentation. When they pin point the part have them save it for the adjuster. They always want to subrogate if it's possible.

Usual disclaimer about not being an attorney but staying in some hotel someplace, yada yada yada...

Posted by: JRust Sep 2 2014, 09:58 AM

I appreciate the input as always. They believe it started at the battery. Not sure which wire leading to the battery but it really looks to have started there & spread back. My insurance lady did say I was covered for everything but the part that started it. Not sure if it will fall on a wire or the battery itself. I still haven't heard from the adjustor/claim guy. I did hear from Mike who told me he came by yesterday. Mike knew everything about it & I feel good everything was directed in a way to help things go smoothly. We will see how smoothly it all goes now. I've asked him to take pictures of every step so I have a good documentation of the rebuild

Posted by: 76-914 Sep 2 2014, 01:42 PM

You said that you had removed a relay prior to the fire. Were the spade fittings insulated and were any left laying around?

Posted by: JRust Sep 4 2014, 08:01 AM

Making progress now but just a little. Drivetrain is out. Wiring Harness & ECU sent to Outfront. Getting a new ECU but my old may be repairable so may fix it for a future project (EG33 or ez30 in my old v8 car ). They will be working on my new harness over the next couple weeks. No rush as Mike will be overseas for 3 weeks. While he is gone the Paint shop is getting my car. So the rear trunk & firewall are getting resprayed. Hoping to get them to do some touchup on some misc chips up front too. Haven't spoken to the shop yet about that so we will see.

Posted by: Mike Bellis Sep 4 2014, 09:12 PM

Posted by: JRust Sep 4 2014, 09:42 PM

Yeah I am waiting for some

Posted by: JRust Sep 29 2014, 11:08 AM

I got a check from my insurance. I thought they would be paying the shops directly. I guess it's been a while since I have had to deal with anything relating to insurance. Still waiting for my wrench to get back from China. Should be this week. Then I need to see if my check is close to what he had figured.

Posted by: Kansas 914 Sep 29 2014, 11:15 AM

Good luck!

Posted by: quadracerx Sep 29 2014, 11:26 AM

Wow Jamie...

I just saw this post today, sorry about your car that part sucks....

Glad the insurance is covering it... Keep us posted...

Let me know if I can help...

Steve

Posted by: JRust Oct 29 2014, 04:42 PM

Quick update! My wiring harness has arrived. My intake which needed cleaned up was also sent to Outfront. I'll be getting it back with a few improvements as well as painted black. Chrome was an option but a little much bling for me. I needed new injectors as mine had melted somewhat. Plus needed my main wiring harness worked on too. It didn't get into my cab at all which is good. Everything in the engine bay was toast though

Damn paint shops have been giving Mike the run around for weeks. Finally got a quote & have the paperwork back into insurance. Waiting on them to sign off on that. Plus some more additional work from Mike. The adjustor knew more was coming. So waiting for approval & checks for that.

So I am still in a waiting game. Probably get it finished right about the time it drops a foot of snow in Bend. Which will make getting it back home a little more stressful.

While the wait sucks. I feel good about it getting done right. Realistically the weather is shit now anyway so my car would just be sitting in my garage at home. So the wait isn't that bad. Anyway that is where I am at with it. No pics to share as of yet

Posted by: JRust Nov 11 2014, 11:27 PM

Got a couple quick pics tonight. Paint is just about done. My car should be back with my wrench next week for reassembly . Only been 3 months now. Now I just need to call my insurance to get them paying for the paint & cost overruns we knew were coming.
Called last week & haven't hear back yet. So I will be calling again tomorrow

Had them shoot the bottom of my engine lid too as it was somehow missed originally.


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Posted by: Zaney Nov 12 2014, 06:24 PM

Holy crap!
How did i not see this thread!!
Glad to see that it wasn't as bad as it could have been! I have been on too many car fires where it was old fuel lines or gremlins in the electrical.

Hope it comes back the way you want it to be!!

Maybe consider a stand alone remote fuse box for all the "hot leads" coming off the battery or a master off switch.


Cheers
Nate

Posted by: JRust Nov 20 2014, 10:50 PM

My car is back from the paint shop . So back to Subie tech for the drivetrain. Everything shipped from Outfront Motorsports this week. Hopefully reassembly will go quick without any problems.

I do have one serious issue. Came across an 05 STI Turbo motor with 85k on it complete. I want that sucker so bad. Wish I had the $3500 to blow. For motor's it would be a pretty easy upgrade for me. Basically a new wiring harness & custom exhaust . Go from my 159hp at the rear wheels to 280-300 . I don't need it as my setup really pulls excellent & drives just great. I am not going to go into debt for this. If I can somehow sell enough stuff to get it I'm all over it though.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Nov 21 2014, 07:41 AM

Wow- for $3,500 that would be tough to pass up to double your HP.........

Posted by: messix Nov 21 2014, 10:40 AM

you need to go to a "meeting " you're slipping down that slope again!!!

Posted by: computers4kids Nov 22 2014, 09:58 AM

Hey Jamie-
You have a beautiful car to enjoy--sell some of your stash--go for it!

Posted by: KELTY360 Nov 22 2014, 10:28 AM

More like plunging over the sheer cliff that was at the end of the slope. He's a goner.

Posted by: JRust Nov 28 2014, 09:53 PM

Yeah parts arrived from Outfront today! Hopefully it will go back together quickly.

Of course I hope my damn insurance get's on paying for the rest of it. The additional invoices were sent to the adjustor a month ago. They never made it to insurance. Guy seemed to think the additional invoices were covered with the original check. What part of additional is hard to understand. Which they were expecting so don't know what the heck this guy's problem was. He's supposed to pass all this stuff on. Already had to fork out the money for the paint ($1400) to repaint the firewall & the rear trunk. If it wasn't for my zero deductible I would have painted it myself. Especially for that kind of dough.

So while I am hoping my car get's finished quick. I sure hope my insurance get's me another check quick. I don't have an extra 3k sitting here for it. Overall my repairs are coming in as just under 8k . Never would have spent that if I was footing the bill. Now I'm just hoping I'm not going to be footing a good portion of it

Okay besides all the insurance crap. I am stoked my car is finally getting close to done. I know the weather sucks but I can't wait to be driving my car again


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Posted by: RobW Nov 29 2014, 01:22 AM

Getting it back together! Congrats!

Posted by: JRust Dec 8 2014, 08:21 PM

More progress! Motor all back together & ready to go back in . This was from last week. Hoping to hear it being installed this week. Waiting for an update but I am getting excited. My patience is wearing thin. I want my car back. Even though the weather sucks & it will most likely just sit in the garage. At least I can go out & look at it


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Posted by: StratPlayer Dec 8 2014, 08:24 PM

Very cool Jamie,, you'll be driving for the WCR...

Posted by: JRust Dec 8 2014, 08:29 PM

Yes if your there we will have to swap for a drive! Be great to see what you think of it

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 8 2014, 09:08 PM

Did they pay enough for a fire extinguisher?

Posted by: JRust Dec 8 2014, 09:19 PM

I have a fire extinguisher in the cab. Doesn't help when it catches on fire in the middle of the night with nobody around. Good looking our though ANDY

Posted by: JRust Dec 19 2014, 10:54 PM

Car is back together & off jackstands. Supposedly get's fired up tomorrow. Everyone keep your fingers crossed


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Posted by: quadracerx Dec 19 2014, 10:57 PM

Good Luck tomorrow Jamie!! Keep us posted...

I love the paint... Is it the late model Camaro Green?

Thanks,

Steve

Posted by: JRust Dec 19 2014, 11:06 PM

Yeah Steve 2000 camaro- Synergy green! I it. It just pops no matter where or when. Still probably a week from getting it even if it runs. Still waiting on insurance to cut the final check. I don't care though. I'll just be happy to get it done & back home where it belongs

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Posted by: arkitect Dec 20 2014, 06:30 AM

Jamie,
Glad to see it back together, good luck with the start up.

Dave

Posted by: RobW Dec 20 2014, 06:37 AM

Let's see it!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 20 2014, 08:09 AM

Beautiful car. Good luck with start up and test drive.

Posted by: JRust Feb 17 2015, 07:32 PM

Okay my car is finally back together. They got it running today. After getting everything hooked back up. Wasn't getting spark. He went through & check all the wiring. Still no go & had questions with the aftermarket fuse panel & wiring for gauges. A lot of custom work done by PO. Which was all good but no wiring diagrams. So we sent it to another shop that is more a wiring guru. Go everything checked out under the dash & all was good. Had spark but injectors weren't getting the signal to put fuel in. Had fuel pressure & new fuel pump. It was there just wasn't coming through the injectors. After rechecking all the wires it didn't make sense everything was hooked up properly. So they called Outfront to troubleshoot. Weren't sure if it was the new ECU or the custom wiring harness they made. Found they had 3 wires in the harness that were done wrong at out front. Rewired them to where they should go despite & it started right up. Anyway my wait is almost over. I'm on vacation until sunday. So will be making a trip over next week to drive my car home

Posted by: 76-914 Feb 17 2015, 07:36 PM

Fantastic

Posted by: DBCooper Feb 17 2015, 07:42 PM

That is one fine looking car.

Posted by: mgp4591 Feb 17 2015, 08:30 PM

Freakin' sweet ride! And about damn time too... like I had to tell YOU that!
Happy Motoring!

Posted by: Socalandy Feb 17 2015, 08:43 PM

plenty of time for some shake down drives before R66

Posted by: JRust Feb 17 2015, 08:59 PM

Exactly! I can't wait to drive it again too. Been to damn long & with the mild winter. I had plenty of nice days to take it out. Sucked not having it. I am so flipping happy to be getting it back

Posted by: PanelBilly Feb 17 2015, 10:45 PM

I'd like to see a video of you tooling down the road with sound!

Too cool

Posted by: madmax914 Feb 17 2015, 11:29 PM

Let me know when is a good day and time to come down and see it. It looks awesome! I'm excited for you!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 18 2015, 07:28 AM

I love that car! Have fun bringing her home.

Posted by: Hank914 Feb 21 2015, 12:08 PM

Just,

Are you getting today tomorrow from Bend? I'm up here, and missing the NapaBBQ.

I could video it, from one 914 of another...

Posted by: JRust Feb 21 2015, 07:29 PM

Sorry bud. In Orlando on vacation with the family. Not sure what day next week I'll be picking it up. Haven't heard back since it started. They know I am out of town so may be ready. After missing work for a week. Probably be late next week

Posted by: PanelBilly Feb 21 2015, 08:54 PM

Free 914 parts at Jamie's house, Hurry while there's still good stuff to get!






Just teasing, Say hi to Goofy for me