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Posted by: speed metal army Aug 8 2014, 07:20 PM

Advice please! I know its a17mm hex etc, its just being stubborn as hell!

Posted by: bulitt Aug 8 2014, 08:03 PM

Big heat!

Posted by: injunmort Aug 8 2014, 08:04 PM

I agree , if it is that stuck

Posted by: speed metal army Aug 8 2014, 08:36 PM

Heat the area surrounding the plug i assume?

Posted by: injunmort Aug 8 2014, 08:47 PM

right on the plug

Posted by: mepstein Aug 8 2014, 08:57 PM

Lots of leverage

Posted by: cpavlenko Aug 8 2014, 09:04 PM

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Posted by: speed metal army Aug 8 2014, 09:11 PM

On the plug? This would expand the plug.. confused24.gif But heck, if it works i'm in! chowtime.gif

Posted by: Mike Bellis Aug 8 2014, 09:29 PM

Allen key, 2x4 to hold the key down, 2 ratchet straps to keep the 2x4 from moving, long pipe to add leverage to the key.

Posted by: speed metal army Aug 8 2014, 09:42 PM

QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Aug 8 2014, 08:29 PM) *

Allen key, 2x4 to hold the key down, 2 ratchet straps to keep the 2x4 from moving, long pipe to add leverage to the key.

Im going to need a sketch for the 2x4 part of this.. biggrin.gif

Posted by: 02loftsmoor Aug 8 2014, 09:51 PM

Wheaties poke.gif

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Aug 8 2014, 10:07 PM

Heat the plug and the area around it. Then while wearing a thick pair of gloves, stick an ice cube inside the plug. Use a small cheater bar (length of pipe) on the allen wrench and give it a try. Think about it first. Visualize the plug loosening. Keep a positive frame of mind. If that doesn't work, a long chain of expletives sometimes helps. smoke.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: speed metal army Aug 8 2014, 10:14 PM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Aug 8 2014, 09:07 PM) *

Heat the plug and the area around it. Then while wearing a thick pair of gloves, stick an ice cube inside the plug. Use a small cheater bar (length of pipe) on the allen wrench and give it a try. Think about it first. Visualize the plug loosening. Keep a positive frame of mind. If that doesn't work, a long chain of expletives sometimes helps. smoke.gif laugh.gif

I like this one best..
Wish me luck! biggrin.gif

Posted by: bdstone914 Aug 8 2014, 10:15 PM

QUOTE(speed metal army @ Aug 8 2014, 08:42 PM) *

QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Aug 8 2014, 08:29 PM) *

Allen key, 2x4 to hold the key down, 2 ratchet straps to keep the 2x4 from moving, long pipe to add leverage to the key.

Im going to need a sketch for the 2x4 part of this.. biggrin.gif


I think he is saying to strap the 2 x 4 to the trans to hold in the allen key. It is a shallow plug and the key can twist out under heavy pressure.

Posted by: speed metal army Aug 8 2014, 10:18 PM

QUOTE(bdstone914 @ Aug 8 2014, 09:15 PM) *

QUOTE(speed metal army @ Aug 8 2014, 08:42 PM) *

QUOTE(Mike Bellis @ Aug 8 2014, 08:29 PM) *

Allen key, 2x4 to hold the key down, 2 ratchet straps to keep the 2x4 from moving, long pipe to add leverage to the key.

Im going to need a sketch for the 2x4 part of this.. biggrin.gif


I think he is saying to strap the 2 x 4 to the trans to hold in the allen key. It is a shallow plug and the key can twist out under heavy pressure.

This makes sense! I actually thought he was fuch'n with me a little. happy11.gif

Posted by: Chris H. Aug 8 2014, 10:32 PM

QUOTE(Elliot Cannon @ Aug 8 2014, 11:07 PM) *

Heat the plug and the area around it. Then while wearing a thick pair of gloves, stick an ice cube inside the plug. Use a small cheater bar (length of pipe) on the allen wrench and give it a try. Think about it first. Visualize the plug loosening. Keep a positive frame of mind. If that doesn't work, a long chain of expletives sometimes helps. smoke.gif laugh.gif


Lawn chair...you forgot about the lawn chair.


Posted by: seareef228 Aug 8 2014, 11:40 PM

pb blaster over night
then use square tubing or a floor jack handle for a breraker bar should work if you are simi strong

Posted by: seareef228 Aug 8 2014, 11:46 PM

heat makes me nervous under a car but if you do, what you are doing is this,
heat it up right on the plug untill its red hot now heres the trick
wait for it to cool for about 30seconds to 1 min the plug first expands
then when it cools it contracts this is when you hit it hard

Posted by: euro911 Aug 8 2014, 11:57 PM

Also, don't fiddle around with an inexpensive (cheep) Allen wrench. Spend a little extra $ for a 1/2" breaker bar and the special Allen wrench socket. Snap-On sells the socket.

Posted by: seareef228 Aug 9 2014, 12:10 AM

QUOTE(euro911 @ Aug 8 2014, 10:57 PM) *

Also, don't fiddle around with an inexpensive (cheep) Allen wrench. Spend a little extra $ for a 1/2" breaker bar and the special Allen wrench socket. Snap-On sells the socket.

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Posted by: Harpo Aug 9 2014, 04:42 AM

I have the snap on socket if you want to borrow it

Posted by: Jon H. Aug 9 2014, 06:01 AM

QUOTE(Harpo @ Aug 9 2014, 02:42 AM) *

I have the snap on socket if you want to borrow it

I use the same socket with the impact gun and it works fine. Especially if the tranny is on the bench and you can't use leverage because the case is moving around.

Jon H.

Posted by: ipadstott Aug 9 2014, 12:06 PM

Every time I walked by mine I sprayed it with liquid wrench and gave it a try, after 2 days it broke free quite easy and I didn't over torque or break anything. I used the proper socket from snap on and you should to!

Ian Stott
Moncton
Canada

Posted by: speed metal army Aug 14 2014, 10:06 PM

Thanks for the advice and offers to lend me the correct socket! aktion035.gif Typical awesome 914 world stuff...
So... The reason I wanted to pull the plug (so to speak ) was to check fluid levels. My trans has been weeping out of the input shaft seal, so I figured it would be good to check. So I get the plug cracked open, moving along nicely.. I get to the point of finger tightness, continue backing it out. I get the plug out and and a 1/2 cup of trans oil spills on my gaddamned shoe! laugh.gif It was wayyy too full. Its been this way since I bought the car in 2010 or so. Probably why it has been leaking.. rolleyes.gif
Whatever, At least I'm not low on fluid! blink.gif

Posted by: stugray Aug 14 2014, 11:17 PM

what? Howd the PO do that - fill it through the vent?

Or fill it while it was laying on its side?

Posted by: Dave_Darling Aug 15 2014, 01:06 AM

Fill it with the tail of the car up in the air...

(Don't ask how I know that...)

--DD

Posted by: euro911 Aug 15 2014, 04:16 AM

Exactly how do you know that, Dave? poke.gif

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