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Posted by: riverman Jan 24 2005, 09:32 PM
I was very pleased to find this forum on the net - it is exactly what I need.
I have a '73 2.0 that I picked up for next to nothing and I am just starting it's resurection. The car came with enough parts to build two cars, unfortunately not enough to build one good car. So far I have stripped the drivetrain and interior and I am in the process of cutting out the rust and welding in patches. As this is a Canadian car, it is badly rusted and needs extensive work.
My main concern is the longitudinals. Both the inner and outer on both sides were rusted right through on the bottom causing the car to sag. I am going to patch up the longitudinals as best as I can and then, to be safe, install a frame stiffening kit I ordered from Brad Mayeur. Anyone have any experience with these? If my exterior measurements are all correct and my door gaps look good then my frame should be aligned, right?
I'm also seriously considering a V6 swap (I think a V8 has too much hp and will only end up breaking stuff) and was wondering who has had experience with this conversion. Which motor is best? Is the 6 an easier fit than the 8? Does smaller cubic inches mean easier to cool - i.e. smaller rad?
I look forward to gleaning advice from the numerous experienced and avid 914 fans out there and, hopefully, be able to provide some of my own as I go along.
Posted by: dlo914 Jan 24 2005, 09:36 PM
i guess i'll be the first to welcome you to the club.....hello there up north 
Posted by: Rhodes71/914 Jan 24 2005, 09:37 PM
Welcome to the club. Sounds like you got your work cut out for ya.
I might as well tell ya that everybody will be hollerin for pics. We need to see all that rust.
Sean
Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 24 2005, 09:56 PM
Welcome to the club 
Talk to Mike at Mike's914's 905 922 8987
He has longs ready to weld in.
Or if you have the coin, he has a yellow new paint roller ready to go for about $4000 and he might do a trade in.
Tell him Mark sent ya!
If your going to do a conversion just do a V8.
Posted by: riverman Jan 24 2005, 10:00 PM
For starters - here is what's left of the bottom half of the inner and outer long from the driver's side.
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Posted by: veedubPORSCHEchris Jan 24 2005, 10:01 PM
welcome EH!!!!
Posted by: GWN7 Jan 24 2005, 10:03 PM
Hello and welcome 
There are plenty of threads here on replacing the pieces you describe. Do it right and then add the kit. There was a thread posted today on treating rust in those areas. Very worthwhile reading.
If your planning on a conversion go with the V8. Some V6's have vibration problems and if your going to do it, more hp = more fun 
Posted by: SpecialK Jan 24 2005, 10:17 PM
| QUOTE (riverman @ Jan 24 2005, 08:00 PM) |
| For starters - here is what's left of the bottom half of the inner and outer long from the driver's side. |
AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!
Mommy! The mean Canadian guys is trying to give me nightmares!!
That is some serious rust my friend! There are some real detailed threads about longitudinal replacement on this site, do a search and ye shall find a plethora of useful information and pics.
Welcome to the Club!
Posted by: Gint Jan 24 2005, 10:59 PM
Gonna be a lot of work. There are plenty of threads around here of similar work.
Welcome to the Club!
Posted by: Toast Jan 25 2005, 12:44 AM
Welcome to the club riverman!
We are here to help feed your addiciton! 
Melba Toast
Posted by: skline Jan 25 2005, 01:09 AM
Wow, you are a brave man, if that is all that is left of the long and you have sag already, I would find a doner tub and transfer everything to it. It sounds like you are building a 914 from scratch anyway. Since it is a unibody car, the frame is what you showed laying on the floor. Welcome to the club. There is lots of info here on every aspect of what you want to do with the car. Anything from bone stock restoration to a mild to wild V8 conversion. Where to get parts and how to put them on. Good luck with your car and please, do post pictures of your car.
Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 25 2005, 01:12 AM
Your in the right place
Posted by: Reiche Jan 25 2005, 01:33 AM
| QUOTE (riverman @ Jan 24 2005, 08:00 PM) |
| For starters - here is what's left of the bottom half of the inner and outer long from the driver's side. |
Looks really light. I think URY914 might be interested in installing that in his car.
Posted by: SpecialK Jan 25 2005, 02:53 AM
| QUOTE (Reiche @ Jan 24 2005, 11:33 PM) | ||
Looks really light. I think URY914 might be interested in installing that in his car. |
Pretty sure Paul's already cut that part out and replaced it with tubing.
Posted by: Gustl Jan 25 2005, 05:04 AM
hello from far far away
Posted by: jr91472 Jan 25 2005, 05:40 AM
howdy from Texas!
Posted by: BarberDave Jan 25 2005, 06:35 AM
Hello,and Welcome to the best 914 board in the World.
Keep watching and learning. BTW this Aug. is the Annual Mid West 914 Classic in Mich. be sure to be there
there will be a flock of 914's , 75 I hope . More info will be nailed . Again Welcome. Dave
Posted by: tracks914 Jan 25 2005, 07:48 PM
Welcome to our support group.
Hello from up North....ya some of us still live farther north than you do!!!
Too bad I just saw this post, I was down in Simcoe and Niagara last week, working and looking at another 914. I could have buzzed over and taken a good look at it for you. (I rented a 300m with the HEMI- 208km/h on the QEW and still pulling)
From what I see, keep looking for a good tub and put all your best parts on it. If it's your first restoration and it is as bad as you say it might just frustrate you and will never get done.
The longs on the car I was looking at weren't as bad as your longs and I wouldn't offer him $200 for it. He wanted $2000 and I laughed at him.
I'd be happy to help out if I can.
Posted by: kenporacer Jan 26 2005, 07:10 AM
welcome to the club! lots of info here. search & you will find!!
Posted by: aveale Jan 26 2005, 08:04 AM
greetings from a fellow
1- canadian 914 - ER
2- rusty long - many hours of work ahead - why did i get myself into this - ER
3- ontario resident
keep your head up though. Lots of encouragement here.
T
Posted by: seanery Jan 26 2005, 08:23 AM
Welcome to the club!
After you get your longs back in shape, install a set of Engman's Inner Long Reinforcements http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=12376.
You'll be happy with the extra stifness (and so will she ).
Good luck, you've got a long road ahead of you, these cars are a blast once you get 'em done!
Posted by: Quebecer Jan 26 2005, 10:42 AM
Welcome to the Club, Eh !
I sympathize with you as I have very similar problems with mine.
This is an excellent Forum, guys are very helpfull, and you'll find just about anything you want by doing searches.
When in doubt, don't hesitate to ask questions, that's what we're all here for.
Later, Eh!
Posted by: mike_the_man Jan 26 2005, 10:53 AM
Hi from another fellow Canadian. We're starting to get a pretty large Canuck population on here! Lets see some more pics of your car.
Good luck and have fun.
Posted by: riverman Jan 26 2005, 12:50 PM
Current state of things.
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Posted by: riverman Jan 26 2005, 12:53 PM
Another shot. BTW, how do I add multiple pics to one posting or can you only attach one image per post?
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Posted by: seanery Jan 26 2005, 12:57 PM
only one per post unless they are hosted elsewhere on the web. sorry.
Click on the FAQ link at the top, there is good info on posting pics there.
Posted by: Toast Jan 26 2005, 01:13 PM
| QUOTE (riverman @ Jan 26 2005, 11:50 AM) |
| Current state of things. |
Looks like we will be seeing alot of you here with THAT project!
Good luck! Were here to help with support (looks like you will need that
) and with parts.Parts, lots of parts...........
Posted by: Stephane Jan 26 2005, 05:17 PM
Hello & welcome from the East! You gotta hate what salt will do to metal!
Stephane
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