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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Sep 28 2014, 11:43 PM
Looks like this new 918 owner had an awful experience at the gas station.
Jalopnik has the story, apparently the driver started to move away from the pump + still had the nozzle attached to the car 
The fuel filler is in the area near the sail pillar, and the twin hot exhaust exits are up top of the engine grille. 
Posted by: Sleepin Sep 28 2014, 11:57 PM
Posted by: Tom Sep 29 2014, 02:57 AM
No one ever said you needed smarts to buy one of those, just be filthy rich! Then he leaves it right there by the pumps. Two seconds would have had it away from them before he got out.
Posted by: RobW Sep 29 2014, 08:44 AM
Oops. 
Posted by: CptTripps Sep 29 2014, 09:07 AM
I guess the battery tray over the longitudinal wasn't the worst design flaw ever then...
Posted by: billh1963 Sep 29 2014, 09:17 AM
No one ever said you needed smarts to buy one of those, just be filthy rich! Then he leaves it right there by the pumps. Two seconds would have had it away from them before he got out.
Yep...intelligence is not a requirement for becoming wealthy. Just look at most of the Hollywood elite
Posted by: dlkawashima Sep 29 2014, 09:24 AM
Posted by: JRust Sep 29 2014, 09:33 AM
Those pumps are supposed to have a break away handle. How the hell did he manage to do that? Seriously something else had to have happened there. Gas stations are setup so shit like that can't happen. Especially right by their pumps 
Posted by: 7TPorsh Sep 29 2014, 09:36 AM
gas tank isn't up front?
Posted by: veekry9 Sep 29 2014, 09:39 AM
carefully fill without spilling fuel onto paint,then seal tank.
a momentary lapse,some distraction.
Posted by: Captain Obvious Sep 29 2014, 09:54 AM
He should have hung the hose up in the pump receptacle when he was done filling it up.
You're Welcome.
Posted by: biosurfer1 Sep 29 2014, 10:06 AM
I never understand how this happens. I've filled up 1000's of times in my life and not once did driving away with the handle still in the car even come remotely close to happening .
Posted by: JRust Sep 29 2014, 10:21 AM
I never understand how this happens. I've filled up 1000's of times in my life and not once did driving away with the handle still in the car even come remotely close to happening .
I've grown up in Oregon & lived here most my life. We don't pump our own gas. I did this once in a rental car in Vegas. Started the pump & went inside to grab a drink. Came back out & got in the car & started to pull away. Heard something so stopped. I'd gone all of 6 ft but the handle had popped off like they are made to. I got out embarrassed as hell. It's never happened again but it is possible. I can only see it from someone who doesn't pump their own gas. Oregon is weird that way
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Sep 29 2014, 01:26 PM
The fuel nozzle+hose assy. is approx 8', just at the breakaway joint. The breakaway joint then leaves the remainder of the fuel hose attached at the pump. So whatever residual fuel is still in the 8' fuel hose section goes wherever it wants to during this (yanking) episode. These brain fading self serve customer incidents happen at my buddy's Arco station so often, that he keeps the repair o- ring kit and repair tool in his office. Luckily nothing more than spilled gas on the ground.
At the top of the 918 engine grill resides the 2 exhaust outlets, and directly below 2 mufflers+2 cats. Not a very welcoming environment with the introduction of raw spilled gas.
Marty
Posted by: mgp4591 Sep 29 2014, 01:28 PM
I never understand how this happens. I've filled up 1000's of times in my life and not once did driving away with the handle still in the car even come remotely close to happening .
I've grown up in Oregon & lived here most my life. We don't pump our own gas. I did this once in a rental car in Vegas. Started the pump & went inside to grab a drink. Came back out & got in the car & started to pull away. Heard something so stopped. I'd gone all of 6 ft but the handle had popped off like they are made to. I got out embarrassed as hell. It's never happened again but it is possible. I can only see it from someone who doesn't pump their own gas. Oregon is weird that way
Oregon has too many stoners to have people pumping their own gas...
Posted by: Wdunster Sep 29 2014, 01:33 PM
No one ever said you needed smarts to buy one of those, just be filthy rich! Then he leaves it right there by the pumps. Two seconds would have had it away from them before he got out.
only have to be in the lucky sperm club and be born into it. very sad
Posted by: scotty b Sep 29 2014, 01:45 PM
Those pumps are supposed to have a break away handle. How the hell did he manage to do that? Seriously something else had to have happened there.Canaduh
Posted by: soltino Sep 29 2014, 03:14 PM
No one ever said you needed smarts to buy one of those, just be filthy rich! Then he leaves it right there by the pumps. Two seconds would have had it away from them before he got out.
Right. risk your life for a hunk of materials......that would take smarts.
tino
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Sep 29 2014, 07:12 PM
Just awful
Posted by: 914_teener Sep 29 2014, 07:14 PM
He hit the dot bots rolling out of the gas station....
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Sep 29 2014, 07:19 PM
Do you think there was time to grab this fire extinguisher just next to the 918 + the island ?
With all of this toxic stuff on the ground +in the air, do you think that this gal can get a closer look ? 
Posted by: Beeliner Sep 29 2014, 07:28 PM
Not once have I failed to put the gas nozzle back when fueling my 914...
Posted by: Woody Sep 29 2014, 08:06 PM
Fuel tank is right behind the driver stacked above the hybrid battery. Gashole is on the drivers B pillar.
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Sep 29 2014, 08:07 PM
Not once have I failed to put the gas nozzle back when fueling my 914...
What he said !
I have to admit that is the truth, biggest clue is with the front trunk up...
You can't see the road...brilliant.
This pic is the close proximity of the 918 fuel door+the L side exhaust pipe. This might be the culprit, add some fuel nozzle gas splash jumping over the sail panel...recipe for Chernobyl.
I'll stick with Heinz Nordhoff's 914 fuel filler !
Marty
Posted by: ben*james Sep 29 2014, 08:26 PM
Do you think there was time to grab this fire extinguisher just next to the 918 + the island ?
With all of this toxic stuff on the ground +in the air, do you think that this gal can get a closer look ?
Uh..this picture leaves me thinking about something else...
Posted by: Chris Pincetich Sep 29 2014, 08:43 PM
Dibs on the front calipers! 
Posted by: Ductech Sep 29 2014, 09:43 PM
I would have sacrifically thrown my Stupid Human body on said car if I was dumb enough to douse my own almost million dollar Porsche....
Its so sad to see such a trick bit of speed ware go to a firey death...
I feel bad for the tech who has to do a damage estimate... cause the insurance might rebuild it, It is worth a fuck ton of money.
Ramble over
Posted by: Tbrown4x4 Sep 29 2014, 09:55 PM
Call it genetics, but the fire extinguisher is not the first thing I saw in that picture!
Posted by: SchwarzHorse Sep 29 2014, 10:52 PM
Ambulance-chasing lawyer's accomplice ?
Posted by: pete000 Sep 29 2014, 11:07 PM
Easy come easy go for these folks. Probably will order a LaFerrari to replace it...Oh wait, they catch on fire too !
Maybe he did not read the decal on the pump that states "Do not top off tank"
Posted by: speed metal army Sep 29 2014, 11:17 PM
Yikes! Those are some ugly wheels!
Posted by: Mark Henry Sep 30 2014, 06:50 AM
I guess the hooker he picked up was really hot...
Posted by: ThePaintedMan Sep 30 2014, 07:19 AM
Now THERE'S a DAPO....
Posted by: r_towle Sep 30 2014, 07:32 AM
Self service pumps in my area are setup so when you let go of the handle, it shuts off.
So......you need to stand there the whole time.
Seems like a smart idea.
Posted by: JmuRiz Sep 30 2014, 07:50 AM
Ambulance-chasing lawyer's accomplice ?
I smell a big insurance claim coming...and it smells fishy (not the 'lady' or the smell of burnt C/F and batteries).
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Sep 30 2014, 09:01 AM
Some footage from the gas station cctv shows the 918 owner using a window squeegee trying to remove gas off of the exterior. Could be the result of an overfill or fuel nozzle burp. The small numbers on his clothing might indicate fuel spillage on him as well...One lucky dude that he didn't get torched. #7 (exhaust tip) shows an orange flame starting. The fuel made its way down through some open body seams, looks like ignition was from underneath, then spreading to the back half.
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Sep 30 2014, 09:06 AM
At the point of ignition he was still standing next to the car, #6 is an exhaust tip that is just catching on fire 
Posted by: balljoint Sep 30 2014, 09:06 AM
Not once have I failed to put the gas nozzle back when fueling my 914...
Succinct.
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Sep 30 2014, 09:16 AM
Last pic is the inferno taking the 918 back half. The owner must have been singed somewhat, as his shape can still be seen behind the flames.
All of this in seconds and luckily no deaths. There is going to be some 'Splainin here. 
Posted by: eric9144 Sep 30 2014, 10:11 AM
DONOR CAR! 
Seriously though, what a douche nozzle, who buys a car like that then uses a gas station squeegee to clean off a fuel spill...
Posted by: 7TPorsh Sep 30 2014, 10:12 AM
I would buy it back and make a lounge chair out of the front end....I think the chick is looking for her purse.
Posted by: 7TPorsh Sep 30 2014, 10:14 AM
DONOR CAR!
Seriously though, what a douche nozzle, who buys a car like that then uses a gas station squeegee to clean off a fuel spill...
If you know sh_t about cars and you buy a $1mil car....why are you pumping your own gas?
Imagine if there was full service and the gas attendant did this?
Full service? ....I must be getting old....
Posted by: KELTY360 Sep 30 2014, 10:54 AM
DONOR CAR!
Seriously though, what a douche nozzle, who buys a car like that then uses a gas station squeegee to clean off a fuel spill...
If you know sh_t about cars and you buy a $1mil car....why are you pumping your own gas?
Imagine if there was full service and the gas attendant did this?
Full service? ....I must be getting old....
If I had that car I'd hate the idea of letting someone else fill the tank. I hate it when I'm in Oregon and have to trust the job to someone who doesn't care nearly as much about my car as I do.
This guy may not have been paying careful attention, but I'm not sure it's inspired design for the fuel fill point to be so close to a hot exhaust source.
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Sep 30 2014, 11:25 AM
Fuel tank is in the same location as the CGT, but constructed differently.
From the pictures it looks like the tank held together, as there was no explosion.
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Sep 30 2014, 11:28 AM
The lucky survivor+short time 918 owner, no it's not Chevy Chase !
A well known Toronto biz. man.
Posted by: naro914 Sep 30 2014, 12:43 PM
Funny...in NJ they pump your gas too and won't let you do it yourself. I grew up with that, thought it was totally normal. Then moved South and had to (gasp) do it myself? Seriously?? I hated (still do) getting out of the car when it's cold/raining/hot/whatever and having to pump my own gas. Obviously gotten used to it, but really liked having someone else do it for me. Sure...call me lazy (I am), spoiled (I wish), or 'entitled' (yeah right), but I just hate pumping my own gas when I'm in a business suit or in bad weather.
That's the ONE thing I really liked about NJ (besides the pizza, diners, and overall great Italian food)
Posted by: championgt1 Sep 30 2014, 12:43 PM
Willie Wonka!
Posted by: ThePaintedMan Sep 30 2014, 01:05 PM
#Firstworldproblems
Posted by: mgp4591 Sep 30 2014, 01:27 PM
Looks like his name could be Chauncey LeDouche... If I had that much cash I doubt I'd purse my lips like that; it's just asking for trouble
Posted by: RobW Sep 30 2014, 01:40 PM
Must have been a tough walk home....
Thanks for the analysis.... I'm not left wondering anymore...
Posted by: Elliot Cannon Sep 30 2014, 02:03 PM
Lots of arrogant "I would never do anything that stupid" attitudes among us. 
Posted by: Chris H. Sep 30 2014, 02:03 PM
Willie Wonka!
I've only seen a tiny snippet of this movie and know it's totally wack but for some reason this image keeps popping up when I think about the 918 incident.
Posted by: RobW Sep 30 2014, 04:48 PM
That's a lot of male eye lashes!
Posted by: dlkawashima Sep 30 2014, 05:00 PM
Gene Wilder + Malcolm McDowell = ...
Posted by: stugray Sep 30 2014, 05:04 PM
If he was not in the car when it caught fire, then it wasnt starting the engine that did it.
Is that a Rabbit Fur scarf he is wearing over a sweater?
Humidity really low, just spilled gas all over your car and then spread it around with a rubber squeegee to promote evaporation.....
Recipe for Static Discharge...
Posted by: type2man Sep 30 2014, 05:08 PM
From the gas station footage it looks like he did put the nozzle back because I dont see it attached to the vehicle while he is cleaning the spill, so maybe he's not that much of a dumbass and the car was designed wrong.
Posted by: naro914 Sep 30 2014, 05:15 PM
^^ Agree. Look at the pictures in post 36 and 37. Fuel nozzle was clearly put back, he was cleaning gas spilled off the side of his car (with a window squeegee!!)
Very well could just have been that he spilled gas and it ignited. Maybe overfill, maybe carelessness, maybe design flaw...
Posted by: Rand Sep 30 2014, 05:29 PM
Wonder what this does for the ratings of Dragon's Den.
Posted by: Johny Blackstain Sep 30 2014, 05:34 PM
maybe design flaw...
People are stupid, including me Might be best to find a way to either move the gas tank & filler up front or loose the extremely cool "fighter jet exhaust" Too close to each other & kimshi happens.
Posted by: 396 Sep 30 2014, 05:40 PM
I never understand how this happens. I've filled up 1000's of times in my life and not once did driving away with the handle still in the car even come remotely close to happening .
I've grown up in Oregon & lived here most my life. We don't pump our own gas. I did this once in a rental car in Vegas. Started the pump & went inside to grab a drink. Came back out & got in the car & started to pull away. Heard something so stopped. I'd gone all of 6 ft but the handle had popped off like they are made to. I got out embarrassed as hell. It's never happened again but it is possible. I can only see it from someone who doesn't pump their own gas. Oregon is weird that way
Oregon has too many stoners to have people pumping their own gas...
:Qarl:ya never know.
Posted by: Olympic 1.7 Sep 30 2014, 06:00 PM
Little OT but here is some bad design for you
Its a Renault R10, and a rear engine with the fuel tank between the passenger compartment. notice the fuel filler cap right next to the distributor cap.
French
I NEVER left anyone else fill it up.
It was a fun little car though
Posted by: Porschef Sep 30 2014, 06:12 PM
Willie Wonka!
I've only seen a tiny snippet of this movie and know it's totally wack but for some reason this image keeps popping up when I think about the 918 incident.
A Clockwork Orange...still a crazy flick after 43 or so years
What an unfortunate occurrence.
Posted by: 914_teener Sep 30 2014, 08:57 PM
The lucky survivor+short time 918 owner, no it's not Chevy Chase !
A well known Toronto biz. man.
Seriously.......
this is the guy Marty?
Posted by: edwin Sep 30 2014, 09:08 PM
They didn't use a gt3 oil pump did they?
Posted by: ripper911 Sep 30 2014, 09:41 PM
A Clockwork Orange...still a crazy flick after 43 or so years
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Oct 1 2014, 12:21 AM
The lucky survivor+short time 918 owner, no it's not Chevy Chase !
A well known Toronto biz. man.
Seriously.......
this is the guy Marty?
According to the postings that I've been reading in other forums, some from that local Toronto area...that IS the gent.
No affiliation to the Stanley Kubrik movie though
Porsche has a bunch of uncalled for 918s at the moment, wonder if this episode will drive some buyers away, or sweeten the poison.
After last year's loss of Paul+Roger in the CGT, those cars are now trading hands at $500k+, which is higher than pre - crash prices.
Posted by: veekry9 Oct 1 2014, 02:13 AM
After purchasing the 918 spaceship to get to Delta 9 he merely had to fill up.
Now using a squeegee to clean the spilled fuel off the paint,whoops....fire!
fuel vapors ignite,ruining the day.
how often do these fires occur?
statistically insignificant in all probability.
semi automatic fire suppression at self serve fuel outlets?
what fire safety vendor wouldn't want a contract like that?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ_8hioUsXE
fuel=fire suppression infrastructure
granted there is no such thing as perfectly safe.
some days it's gonna blow up real good.
what is the threshold for fuel fire safety?
video taken among the headstones
Like the guy now deceased, "I think I'll have a smoke at the rocket factory"
Posted by: Woody Oct 1 2014, 06:27 AM
Just for what its worth, the fuel door wont even open unless the car is turned off. On the 918, since it is a hybrid that does not run the engine all the time, a different type of fuel vapor recovery system is required. On a normal car the fuel tank vapor is vented to the carbon canister and the intake manifold. On this car, since it can drive awhile without running the engine, the tank is designed to hold pressure from the fuel vapors. When you fuel the car, it has to drop the pressures in the tank before the lid will even open.
Posted by: RobW Oct 1 2014, 06:33 AM
Just for what its worth, the fuel door wont even open unless the car is turned off. On the 918, since it is a hybrid that does not run the engine all the time, a different type of fuel vapor recovery system is required. On a normal car the fuel tank vapor is vented to the carbon canister and the intake manifold. On this car, since it can drive awhile without running the engine, the tank is designed to hold pressure from the fuel vapors. When you fuel the car, it has to drop the pressures in the tank before the lid will even open.
Ow, my head hurts after reading your thorough explanation. I can condense it for others... it go boom.
Posted by: 7TPorsh Oct 1 2014, 09:10 AM
My guess is he was cleaning up the spilled gas and when he went to put the squeegee away it had gas soaked in it.
Those things drip. So very easy to fling some droplets over the top of the car.
I still cant believe the tank is out back with the open exhaust. Engine, tank, elec motor all in back. What balances it, the batteries and elec motor up front. Seems to me the ideal spot would be like our cars.
Posted by: Woody Oct 1 2014, 11:26 AM
There is a very substantial firewall in between the engine and fuel tank with all sorts of heat shields thrown in.
Posted by: mepstein Oct 1 2014, 11:52 AM
There is a very substantial firewall in between the engine and fuel tank with all sorts of heat shields thrown in.
Never underestimate a persons ability to screw something up
Posted by: blackmoon Oct 1 2014, 02:51 PM
Pimp daddy was really hot that night
Posted by: Dr Evil Oct 1 2014, 04:42 PM
He looks like a less-old Mic Jagger
Posted by: veekry9 Oct 1 2014, 05:07 PM
Definitely making a fashion statement,but then,why would he give a ufch.
In this example"shit happens".Enzos have had similar fates under more humorous circumstances,it just didn't seem funny at the time to those involved.I guess that's what humour is,the hoisting of those poor unfortunates,even a tornado victim.
Nature of man to jest the other bastard it's happening to.
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