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Posted by: dlo914 Jan 29 2005, 01:26 PM

last night i decided it had come for the time to adjust the valves on the 14. started around 9pm and finished 3 long painful hours later from being underneath my German bitch. And since i was down there i changed her oil for the first time since i brought her home. Didn't wanna test her out last cuz i for sure would've woken up the whole town, but this morning turned her on and SUCCESS IPB Image she pures like a cheetah

Posted by: dlo914 Jan 29 2005, 01:33 PM

now i know what you guys all meant about "busting some knuckles" on this particular task. IPB Image

Posted by: ChrisReale Jan 29 2005, 03:22 PM

The heat exchangers in my opinion are what makes it such a bitch. I put headers on, and now it is easy to access the valves without having to hyperextend your joints. First time always takes the longest, pretty soon, it will take you 20 minutes to do the job

Posted by: Rhodes71/914 Jan 29 2005, 04:06 PM

First time I did mine I though no problem, this will be just like my 74 VW Bus.

WRONG, those f'in HE's do get in the way.

Posted by: dlo914 Jan 29 2005, 04:31 PM

hehe . . . DO THEY EVER!!! i wanted to just uninstall the HE's and just go at instead, then i thought about the time it would take to reinstall them, and it was late. My neck and abs were getting a good workout. Boy, does this fourteener work me harder than my gf does in the sack IPB Image

Posted by: Jake Raby Jan 29 2005, 04:39 PM

A Tangerine header gives you plenty of room! LOL

Posted by: r_towle Jan 29 2005, 06:42 PM

The HE's are were you put your tools while you are working....

At least I do.

Rich

Posted by: dlo914 Jan 29 2005, 07:27 PM

QUOTE (r_towle @ Jan 29 2005, 04:42 PM)
The HE's are were you put your tools while you are working....

At least I do.

Rich

exactly what i was doing toward the end....

Posted by: redshift Jan 29 2005, 07:29 PM

Don't forget to remove the tools before you take off...

"wassat?"

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M

Posted by: dlo914 Jan 29 2005, 07:32 PM

haha.....but on a sour note im now leaking a decent amount of oil seems like it's coming from the driver-side valve cover, and it's dripping onto the HE and causing a smoke-out.

Posted by: redshift Jan 29 2005, 07:33 PM

I have better luck reusing the same gaskets once.

M

Posted by: dlo914 Jan 29 2005, 07:37 PM

yea...i went with new gaskets imma double check the gasket on the PS tonight when the car cools down...o and i didnt use any gasket sealer cuz i was told it wasnt necessary.

Posted by: jd74914 Jan 29 2005, 07:39 PM

wrong. you always want the best possible seal, because it sucks to have smoke comming of the heat exchangers

Posted by: dlo914 Jan 29 2005, 07:42 PM

QUOTE (jd74914 @ Jan 29 2005, 05:39 PM)
wrong. you always want the best possible seal, because it sucks to have smoke comming of the heat exchangers

what would you suggest as a sealant that's easy to remove later on for the next valve job?

Posted by: scott thacher Jan 29 2005, 07:44 PM

you want to see some HE's in the way try a 75/76 HE setup.

what i found works great for closing things up tight. get some spray copper sealant, spray the gasket, let is sit for a minute or 2 then stick it to the head. this prevents it from shifting out of place

Posted by: dlo914 Jan 29 2005, 07:45 PM

thanks scott...

Posted by: Bruce Allert Jan 29 2005, 07:58 PM

QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Jan 29 2005, 03:39 PM)
A Tangerine header gives you plenty of room! LOL

but would it give us the heat we need here in the PNW when we drive on cold sunny dayz??? IPB Image

...b

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 29 2005, 10:04 PM

QUOTE (dlo914 @ Jan 29 2005, 05:32 PM)
but on a sour note im now leaking a decent amount of oil seems like it's coming from the driver-side valve cover, and it's dripping onto the HE and causing a smoke-out.

just pull down on the cover. i bet it's not seated right!

oh, and make sure the VW logo is upside-down ...
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Posted by: nebreitling Jan 29 2005, 10:20 PM

yup -- what andy said -- pull down that cover to it's lowest possible position. they typically leak from the top.

Posted by: DJsRepS Jan 31 2005, 04:53 AM

I put sealant only on the cover to hold the seal in place. Ive seen a mod that welded in a thin plate to keep the seal in place no sucking in.

Posted by: Joe Ricard Jan 31 2005, 07:50 AM

QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Jan 29 2005, 02:39 PM)
A Tangerine header gives you plenty of room! LOL

Tangerine not only give you more room under car but more room between the wallet flapps.

Nice piece and I really need one. Someday when I grow up.

Posted by: vsg914 Jan 31 2005, 07:56 AM

I use a liberal coat (both sides of the gasket) of heavy wheel bearing grease. My valve covers don't leak! They also come off easily and can be reused in emergencies. IPB Image

Posted by: Spoke Jan 31 2005, 08:11 AM

I adjusted my valves for the first time about 2 months ago and was suprised by how easy the job was. After reading and reading and reading articles and hearing horror stories about doing the adjustment, when I finally did the adjustment, it wasn't as hard as I thought. It wasn't real easy but not hard. The HE are in the way but I found in one way, I could get both hands where I needed them to do the adjustment.

OK, I cheated on the passenger side. I had removed the top tin on the passenger side looking for a fantom oil leak which I never found, so I adjusted the pass side valves from the top. This was super easy. I don't think it would have been much more work for the VW manufacturer to make the tin above the valves removable for this adjustment.

Spoke

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jan 31 2005, 01:44 PM

Having done these for 32 years, mostly on the lift, but lots of them on the floor as well, I can give you all some tips. I have always used Gasgacinch, an adhesive readily available at good parts stores. I only put it on the valve cover and the cover side of the gasket. It is held securely in place by both the glue and the tabs on the cover. Installing it on the head means the valve cover tabs will hang up on the gasket. I always tug or pry downward on the cover after its installed to make sure it's fully seated on the head. Gasgacinch is relatively easy to remove the next time you want to change gaskets. The Cap'n