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Posted by: johnny02 Oct 19 2014, 12:23 AM

hi everyone first of all i am from croatia and sorry for my bad english.... i want to know more information about this car on pictuers. is that 914/6 od 914 what year is it... as more informatisns as possible from these pictures...car has been in garage for 40+years and it has only few k miles biggrin.gif


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Posted by: Gustl Oct 19 2014, 12:48 AM

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OMG it's really long time ago that I've seen a car with the YU sticker on the back
is MA on the license plate for Maribor?
this car was really long time off the road ...

it's impossimble to answer your question from these photos
it seems to have 5 lug fuchs, so it might be a 914-6 - but impossible to say

take a photo from the VIN and we could tell you more
it's on the passenger's side wheel well in the front trunk, as shown in this example:

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Posted by: johnny02 Oct 19 2014, 12:56 AM

QUOTE(Gustl @ Oct 18 2014, 10:48 PM) *

welcome.png ... from the neighborhood biggrin.gif


OMG it's really long time ago that I've seen a car with the YU sticker on the back
is MA on the license plate for Maribor?
this car was really long time off the road ...

it's impossimble to answer your question from these photos
it seems to have 5 lug fuchs, so it might be a 914-6 - but impossible to say

take a photo from the VIN and we could tell you more
it's on the passenger's side wheel well in the front trunk, as shown in this example:

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thank you, the problem is that i can't open the gagrage dors and the owner has not been there over 40 years, he moved to USA...i don't know even is he alive anymore...i'd like to know as many informations form these pgotos as possible...i am trying to contact owner and buy this car for few months... MA is for makarska in croatia (120km from dubrovnik)

Posted by: Gustl Oct 19 2014, 01:23 AM

well then, it's really almost impossible to tell you any facts from these photos ...

so here are some thoughts:

it loos like the car would have an adjustable passenger seat, so it should be model year 1972+

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in MY'72 there were only about 250 914-6 built - and only for Euro market

there is no PORSCHE script on the engine lid => Euro market
rear light lenses are Euro market

in MY'72 were two colours available, that might match that car: tangerine (like the car from my VIN example) and bahia red - hard to tell if the colour on your photos would be one of them
the car has wide body and rims, that are most likely installed later, so it might have got a repaint then
also the PORSCHE rear reflector is a later modification

there are some modifications on the car, so it's impossible to say if it started as a 914-4 or 914-6 from the factory ...

Posted by: Gustl Oct 19 2014, 01:36 AM

oh - and maybe you should ask an admin to move this thread to the garage, so it would get much more attention


Posted by: johnny02 Oct 19 2014, 01:53 AM

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oh - and maybe you should ask an admin to move this thread to the garage, so it would get much more attention

i don't know how to do that sad.gif ...

Posted by: Gustl Oct 19 2014, 01:59 AM

no problem - I'll ask for you biggrin.gif

Posted by: Gustl Oct 19 2014, 12:12 PM

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Posted by: Dave_Darling Oct 19 2014, 12:32 PM

The wide fenders were not stock, they were added at some point. (A very very few had them added in the middle of production, but they were still added.) The car was almost certainly repainted at that point, so the color might or might not be the original one. The rear reflector is definitely an add-on; it is most likely a cut-down 911 part.

Wheels are relatively easy to change from four-lug to five-lug, so that is not a certain indicator of a -6. Almost all -6es were 70-71 cars (there were a few 72s) so the moving seat is a hint that the car is a -4; but it's not that difficult to swap the later seat in so that is also not a certain indicator.

Painted bumpers were standard on the 70-73 914-4 cars, while the Sixes had chrome bumpers. No sail panel vinyl covering was also stock on the -4, while the Sixes had the black vinyl covering. (The chrome bumpers and vinyl-covered sail panel were options on the -4 cars.) Both are easy to change, but it is less common to "downgrade" to the less-expensive appearance, so that hints more strongly that this started life as a -4.

Swapping in a six-cylinder 911 engine is somewhat complex, but is a very well-known change. So it might have a six-cylinder in there; possibly one that is larger and more powerful than the original Six motor, which was the least-powerful 911 engine ever made.

About the only way to be absolutely certain if this is an original Six or not is to look at the VIN.

Good luck in your search!

--DD

Posted by: SirAndy Oct 19 2014, 12:50 PM

The black trim, body colored bumper and lack of sail panel vinyl suggest that this is a /4 chassis.

Buy it anyways! Everybody loves a barn find ...
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Posted by: mepstein Oct 19 2014, 12:55 PM

offer $500 sight unseen.

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Oct 19 2014, 02:09 PM

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Easy way to get an idea if it's a six or a 4 is where is the key, on the dashboard or on the steering column?

Posted by: tumamilhem Oct 19 2014, 02:43 PM

Where in Croatia are you? My best friend lives in Zagreb and also has a house on the Adriatic Sea closer to the Balkans.

Posted by: tumamilhem Oct 19 2014, 02:45 PM

PS a good car wash and it'll run like new. biggrin.gif lol

Posted by: Mike Bellis Oct 19 2014, 03:47 PM

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Posted by: Jeffs9146 Oct 19 2014, 04:31 PM

Seriously you guys, look at the left lower windshield vin plate. If it starts with "914" it is 6.

Posted by: KELTY360 Oct 19 2014, 04:40 PM

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Easy way to get an idea if it's a six or a 4 is where is the key, on the dashboard or on the steering column?


Didn't the '72 six have the key on the column?

Posted by: carr914 Oct 19 2014, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Oct 19 2014, 01:09 PM) *

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Easy way to get an idea if it's a six or a 4 is where is the key, on the dashboard or on the steering column?


Didn't the '72 six have the key on the column?


Yes it does!

Posted by: tumamilhem Oct 19 2014, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Oct 19 2014, 06:40 PM) *

QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Oct 19 2014, 01:09 PM) *

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Easy way to get an idea if it's a six or a 4 is where is the key, on the dashboard or on the steering column?


Didn't the '72 six have the key on the column?


Yes it does!

THAT I did not know! The 72 has it in the column like the -4 does? Interesting.

Posted by: carr914 Oct 19 2014, 05:19 PM

The 72 914-6 has a Lot of regular 914 Parts - Ignition on the Column, Movable Passenger Seat, Switches

Posted by: SirAndy Oct 19 2014, 07:26 PM

QUOTE(Jeffs9146 @ Oct 19 2014, 03:31 PM) *
Seriously you guys, look at the left lower windshield vin plate. If it starts with "914" it is 6.

Except, European cars don't have a VIN tag on the windshield ...
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Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 19 2014, 07:35 PM

Even if it's not a 6, may still be a fun car. All just a matter of how much you can buy it for.

Posted by: rick 918-S Oct 19 2014, 08:05 PM

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Posted by: abnrdo Oct 19 2014, 08:11 PM

Welcome!! My family is originally from Croatia! Awesome teener!

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Posted by: Johny Blackstain Oct 20 2014, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(carr914 @ Oct 19 2014, 06:59 PM) *

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Oct 19 2014, 06:40 PM) *

QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Oct 19 2014, 01:09 PM) *

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Easy way to get an idea if it's a six or a 4 is where is the key, on the dashboard or on the steering column?


Didn't the '72 six have the key on the column?


Yes it does!

THAT I did not know! The 72 has it in the column like the -4 does? Interesting.

chair.gif Neither did I. Guess you could also look & see if it has the extra lever next to the gearshift & defroster lever.


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Posted by: bandjoey Oct 20 2014, 07:59 AM

Photo of the motor and transmission will help too. Hope u can get the car.

Posted by: CptTripps Oct 20 2014, 08:30 AM

Regardless of what it is....great find.

You'd at least be starting with cool flares and a 5-lug conversion. The Fuchs aren't too shabby wither.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Oct 20 2014, 10:20 AM

The 1972 914/6 used a 914-4 wiring harness and steering column. There was a short adapter cable that hooked to the 14 pin relay board connector on the wiring harness to adapt it to the /6 relay board. The engine, suspension and brakes were all six parts. It really looks like a conversion car at first glance. But they were using up the leftover six parts.

Still has a "914" VIN number though.


Posted by: johnny02 Oct 20 2014, 01:01 PM

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Where in Croatia are you? My best friend lives in Zagreb and also has a house on the Adriatic Sea closer to the Balkans.

i am 90kilometers north of dubrovnik near ploce smile.gif

Posted by: OllieG Oct 21 2014, 04:39 AM

Barn find!!! aktion035.gif

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out….popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: sb914 Oct 21 2014, 06:42 AM

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Posted by: El Vikingo Tropical Oct 21 2014, 12:20 PM

Welcome
Spain her!

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