Hi all, I’m still a newbie here on world, I’ve made a few posts but have not yet formally introduced myself. My name is Kent and I have been restoring cars for over 20 years now. I did the reconstruction, body and paint on Andy’s (socalandy) 914-6. I immediately became hooked on 914,s and bought and built a 914 V8 conversion. I am starting a new restoration on another 914-6 so I will be posting pics of the progress as I go. The owner of this cars name is Jim and he has done a nice job of rounding up and restoring many of the parts thus far so this will no doubt be a nice car in the end. Andy (socalandy) posted a thread on this car a few months back and now it is in my shop and I’m ready to begin.
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Kent, I can't wait to follow your progress on this six. Going through Andy's build was a real treat. Good luck and please take plenty of pictures.
The Donor Car. R.I.P. I will be using the fenders and Quarter Panels from this car as well as some other areas/sections.
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If it wasn't for the vin # on the /6, I'd say rebuild the doner with the parts off the red car (or is that rust colored). Nice project for a commercial builder!
Nice build on Andy's car. I saw it both before (in Joe's yard) and after the work (RRC14). No doubt the next car will be equally as nice.
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I already got my hands dirty on this one and Kent will hammer it into another GEM
Excellent! We can always use another skilled expert who loves these cars and knows how to really fix them. I loved Andy's build and really look forward to following this one along. Like already mentioned, please keep us hooked with tons of progress pictures. Thanks in advance and my hat is tipped to you for the outstanding work on Andy's beautiful car.
Spent today trimming the panels off of the car and getting it ready for media blasting.
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The inner Roll Bar structure is in great condition. Not rotted out on the lower area like they can be.
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Nice thrash session
What did you use to remove the panels? What ever it was it seemed to go well.
The car is headed to Media blasting this Friday, support bars installed so the body doesn't flex.
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Here we go!
I'm looking forward to watching this one.
I just realized one of my favorite activities is watching 914 restorations on the World. Thanks to rust.
Headed to media blasting. Used Cap lugs to keep media out of the tubes.
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Picked up metal to build Frame Fixture.
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Andy came out and helped. We used his FJ to tow the car to blasting and to pick up the metal on the way back. Thanks Andy!
I will follow this this tread
Realy nice!
Time to start taking the fenders off this one.
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This will be fun getting this harness sorted out but since the cars not even close to paint I have some time to work on it
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Looking pretty good .
The Donor car measured out great so I will use it to build a fixture for the 6.
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watching....this is great!
This fixture will be removable from the table so that it can be used on the front of the car once the car is on the rotisserie. Since I will be replacing the front tub, it will help get the torsion perches back in place.
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I intalled an alignment dowl to relocate the front of the fixture when removed.
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Very nice work!
My Dad's Lathe hard at work getting closer to taking the rear quarters and fenders off the donor car.
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Jim brought by a realy nice set of doors for the car, a little rott from the seal in one but great over all.
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He got this set of early doors for $70.00...Wow! Great deal.
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I got some more done on the fixture today. the fronts pretty much done and the rear is started. The front mounts at the four seporate rack mount points and centers on the OD of the mount points as the rack/suspension mount does and picks up the front torsion perches for properly locating them. I added brackets so I can do a soft pull if needed from the fixture to get the damaged car back into place. This would be done only after much of the metal is removed and taking care not to put any stress on the fixture. It looks like the 6 will need to be moved a bit in front.
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The rear of the fixture is almost done and I hope to have the 6 mounted on it by the end of the next weekend. Can't wait to cut into the 6.
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Bad, bad ass!
Finished the fixture today and started cutting apart the Donor Car.
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Sweet, Amazing work as usual
Nice jig! That is going to work nicely.
More cutting, drilling, scraping on the donor car.
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I happen to know how much work you have into dissecting that shell. That is a bunch of work!
Got the Donor car all cut up and off the fixture, now the 6 is on.
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I used the rotissorie to lift the car onto the fixture. BTW Andy came by today and helped out...Thanks Man!
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As expected, the car is bent but no worries there will be no signs of an accident when completed. It's interesting how you can see exactly how off it is once on the fixture. The front is twisted and sitting high on the drivers side and the entire front of the car is still pushed over to the right and shoved back. The car was "repaired" after the accident but not properly. this pic shows the damage to the rear suspension console.
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Wow! Incredible work. Love seeing these pictures as the car is rescued and restored.
I cut and labled some aluminum welding rods to the exact lengths of measurment for the different openings on the car. this makes it easy to quickly measure as I work on the car.
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We had a good day cutting up the donor and getting the -6 on the fixture. It needs a lot more attention but its in the right place to be fixed.
Got a major flash back once it was on the table
you forgot this one, the last of the donor car on the fixture.
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You Dicks! Had I known, I would have come by to help you two Rump Rangers lift the six onto the jig.
Really interesting to see the inside guts of the 914 body. You guys have big balls and big ambition with these old sixes, love to watch this one take shape!
This is amazing to watch the amount of love going in to this car. I'm very impressed
David
Is it possible to estimate a number on the cost of bringing this one back? I know it's your business, so hope it's not in bad taste.
I just cannot imagine a project of this magnitude.
1. Is it cost effective?
a. The cost of the rusty 914-6 plus the restoration costs.
b. Would it be cheaper to buy one that is sound?
2. Can the car be as structurally sound and reliable as one which is a solid example from the start?
I know you guys on the site do magic with these cars, so I am guessing the car will be structurally fine. I would still believe one this far gone would be cost prohibitive today, given a nice 914-6 is still reasonable to buy. If you are doing the restoration work yourself, on your own car, then I know it would make sense. But to pay a professional to do all of this amazing work seems like it would add up to a very large number.
First of all, Using a mix of NOS parts, nice rust free parts and proper welding principals there is no way this car will be structurally deficient. Specially when an unrestored car has hidden rust that is creeping throughout the chassis in all the locations that this shop is repairing.
The repairs will add up to a very large number. This is not something you would do to a 4. If your thinking of doing this kind of a thing as a quick investment forget it. But with low production numbers and an increased interest in the cars, long term is an other story entirely.
Jim, owner of the 914 Kent is restoring drop bye again yesterday at my place and we did talked about several items regarding our love to 914. I've been checking this thread and I did'nt know it was Jim's car until yesterday, he told me same shop who did SoCal Andy's car. Wow I did ask him how much he might spend to restore his car to concour/original shape and he told me the amount, Well it is a large amount!!! Jim has been collecting parts and although he has the specific part, he will still buy same part(s) just to get the better one to be installed to his project.
Jim is really a nice and humble guy and hardly comment on 914world and as far as I know he has another 914-6 beside the current project and has a beautiful white 73 that He drove the 1st time he visited me.
Thanks Kent for updating the thread of the current status of the restoration. Jim and I might drive there one of this day and drive our 914 to check the car.
Hey Rick, my sentiments exactly. And thank you, Noe.
Jim, I promise I will stop cutting before there is no car left.
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Andy and Jim located a NOS drivers side long.
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NOS drivers long? Andy & Jim must be connected.... Do you guy's have key's to the Porsche factory?
Kent you are kicking some major ass! I'm always excited to see any new work/pictures. We (you), will be color sanding in no time. Thanks for your attention to detail, and your motivation for this project. You're my boy! Andy too.
914/6 long was from Bruce Stone's stash. He has been a good source for us. Thanks Mr. Bruce
That's a damn sexy build...
More progress pics. Drivers inner long set in place.
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Been trimming the edges on the car and the front corner clip, I'll be setting it in place soon.
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Jim bought another parts car this weekend so we'll get the nose panel and rear tail panel that we needed. It also gives him the early suspention parts and other things that will be used.
I love seeing the work that goes into these cars to bring them back. Nice pictures.
Nice work!
remember the http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=198600&hl= changed over the production of the 914, I posted a thread with pictures.
Kent's killing it!!
I was at the shop looking it over and Jim and I will be gutting the 70 parts car and breaking out the The drivers rear swing arm was replaced with a late arm and the rack had been welded in a few areas from it's crushing so just a few of the things on this parts car going on the -6
If you need a steering rack let me know I have a few laying around
I got the front corner section in place this weekend, looks good, now I will send it out for media blasting.
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Jim bought another parts car last week. I went out to his place on Sunday and checked it out. Nice find, he'll get a lot of good usable parts off of this car.
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When this much care goes into taking these cars apart and repairing any prior issues I would have no concerns about this cars value. This car will leave the shop in better shape than it left the factory. Straighter and truer for sure. Excellent job guys.
Very nice work!
drilling out all those spot welds is ...I have no words..
With Andy 1/2 way home with the next 6 you need to get back on this one.
Great Job
I'm not driving my /4 anywhere near that shop, it may never make it out alive.
Those darn /6 cars are cannibals.
Some must die so others may live .
Amazing job!
That is taking it "All the way" Stoked to see those pics.
Shows me that NO SIX is Dead...Unless we give up on them.
Looking forward to picking one up soon.
So far, in regards to this restoration, some 914's gave some and two 914's gave all. As opposed to doing a VIN switch, we are in essence building a 914 around a VIN number. As such, the restoration checklist goes something like this; refinance the house, check, spend the kid's education money, check, hide large amounts of money from the wife, check and check. It appears we have a go!
I'm surprised the new rear inner suspension pick-up is not drilled .
With all this unbelievable work you don't even get that as a given reference.
But I have no doubts.
Great work !
Thanks for all the cool coments, I havn't posted any pics for a while, I figured looking at pics of spotwelds being drilled out would get old...but it doesn't, so here's some pics.
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Removing the front panel from the doner car.
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Got a load of parts back from media blasting today. Now I can start putting it back together.
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I tied the doors together so they only blast the jams and inside and don't warp the skins. I will strip the skins with Aircraft stripper.
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a PO had crudely punched/torn a hole in the inner fender to run lines.
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I knew those two green doors would go to a good cause. Nice to see they will be on a six.
I made this punch that screws into the Jig. Once the long is welded in place, with a lite tap on the suspension consol, It will leave a dimple and I will have perfect center for boring the hole that the suspension arm mounts to. I'll drill the hole once the car is on the rotisory.
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looking good!
BTW the inner rocker cover you have is incorrect for an early (70-72) car
This is the correct part
Ah Ha! I see. This part came off the 73 Donor. Thanks for catching that and letting me know. I would have probably noticed...after I welded it on.
I'll PM you about the peice/section that you have.
Thanks again.
Got the front corner clip and inner long tacked in place. I blasted then coated the areas with brush on weld through primer. As it is heated when welding, it melts and coats the weld area to protect it. All these areas will also be sprayed with a primer once the car is completed using internal frame coating spray.
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Nice! Looks like you scored the correct outer longitudinal. Andy said you guys may have had a solution. If you still need one for you car pm me.
More pics. Starting to look like a car.
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Wow! Great, great stuff. I haven't been this happy since the day my wife left. Not really, she's still here. I can talk a big game because she's upstairs. Anyway, the gaps look bad ass. Thanks for all your attention to detail. The car has hit bottom and now she's starting to rebound. Thank you!
Hey, Old Yella. Thanks for the doors.
Love spot welders
Wow, top notch work!
Spot welders...
John
Awesome Brings back some memories
Awesome Brings back some memories
Hey Kent. Thanks for the great work. Hey Rick. Did you say tongs or thongs?
So, this is Jim's car, and then you dig into your /6? Or, are you doing them both at the same time?
That looks very nice. Seeing how these cars go together is always interesting.
This is pretty self-explanatory but this was an easy way to use tape to locate and transfer the holes into the new piece. The holes were in the outer long but covered with the sill plate (once sill plate was placed) so I used tape to map their location and pulled it back, welded then laid the tape back over to give me the location to drill the hole in the new piece.
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Looks great. Excellent work.
Really great work. I saw Andys car and its amazing. Best of Show was not surprising at WCR 2015. If you dont mind PM me I would love to stop in bring coffee, sweep floors, lift parts, hold parts anything to see this car in person, Really PM me I am a die hard free hand if you need... Yes I said FREE????
Hi Ken,
How's the work going on the 6's ?
Think it's time to give this a update
Take care,
Progress pic. It will be going on the rotisserie to start working on the pans etc. soon.
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I'm sure Sir Jim can't wait to see his 914-6 restoration finish! Although he is driving another white 914-6 for now. Thanks for the update of the restoration Kent! And next time your own /6 will be next. But can you make another restoration thread for your car?
The car looks great Kent!
very nice work
Very nice work.
Looking very nice.
Thanks guys, appreciate the nice comments.
(in responce to ndfrigi's question/post)
Yes, I think I'll run a thread on my 6. It will need more work than Jims. I’m thinking about sending it to be dipped and E-Coated since I will have both longs opened up and I can remove the heat tubes. We'll see.
Hey Kent. As usual your timing is impeccable. Due to the "cold snap" here in Southern California, it was another one of those days at work. There were many unhappy customers as a result. Anyway, it was inspiring/motivating to see the progress report. I can now go back to work with renewed vigor, knowing that the car will be home soon. You're going to miss her, but you have her sister. They both need/needed major facelifts and overhauls. This thread as well as Andy's, should be a major commercial as a testament to your abilities. You are a true visionary and metallurgical artiste!
How's this build going???
Kent,
I sent you a pm on something else too.
Thanks,
Wow! has it been a week already...wait, what, it's been 6 months? Havn't been posting but have got a lot done. I started using my phone to take pics and just figured out how to get them off my phone and onto my comp. Losts to post.
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This is the foot well removed from the six.
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Repaired the hole in the consol on the pass side.
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Off the fixture and on the Rotissorie.
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Spliced in front half of center tunnel and Brasing in new throttle cable tube.
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Added the line retaining tabs on the pan before install. These are in the tunnel.
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Lots of things to remeber to put on. Probably close to 30 items to place.
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That is just terrific work and great photos documenting the process. Thanks for posting.
Looks like you've busy there Ken. Keep the progress pics coming.
This was a good way to locate and drill the holes in the passenger door for the side mirror. The doors already have a welded in nut plate but the skin of the door is covering it, leaving it hard to know where exactly to drill the holes.
I made a tip on a bolt and screwed it in from inside the door (the back of the nut plate) untill it slightly pushed up on the skin then with some black paint spraid over the area, when I lightly sanded the area, it left whitness marks in the exact place to drill.
After I removed the bolt, I used a punch to make a mark to guide the drill bit, then I drilled a small pilot hole. Then I screwed a regular bolt in from the underside to act as a stop so the drill would not go to far and cut into the threads in the nut plate. Then I drilled the holes to the correct size.
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Very clever method to locate and open the holes. Nice work.
Once again you have come through. This only drives home the point even more, my six is where it needs to be. In your capable hands. Thanks for the attention to detail, and your efforts to make the car a "noxcus6." Weld on!
Got the body plugs in today and some seam sealing started.
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Interesting. The seam seal around my plugs seems to be a more spackled texture rather than "swirled finger", but mine is a '75. Did they change technique between the early and late cars?
Yes actualy. Early 1970 cars were brushed on and somewhere in there they started sraying it on. There must have been a period of time when they smeared/brushed in the sealer on the body plugs but sprayed in the sealer on other areas around the car. In later cars, I think it was all sprayed on.
Someone else might have more to add to this.
I'm putting Jim's car (this car) back to what it was and so I'm doing the brush, smear in sealer to keep with the proper look.
Pure 914 porn!
I hope you'll paint it blue
Dave, Dave, Dave. Contrary to your badgering me about the color blue, it will remain the most excellent color tangerine that the factory intended. Now, go back to your Mom's basement and breathe carbon monoxide fron her broken water heater. And, continue to be a mouth breather.
Can't have enough blue (CHEB). Just because of those mean comments about my mother and me, I hope when Earl Sheib paints the Orangarine color it has runs and lots of orange peel.
I didn't mean to insult your Mom. I'm glad you finally found her. I know that ever since she was fired from the carnival, she's been a little depressed. Sorry about that Mrs. Carney.
Saw my car today. Final block sanding done, and paint soon to follow. Kent kicked ass on welding up the rusted and thrashed dash panel. Painted to factory specs with the chassis number inscribed. The tangerine orange is bright and bad ass. Kent is also going to straighten the front and rear valances as well. Tons of work done and still more to go. More progress pictures will be posted when Kent isn't performing his metallurgic madness. He is the metal master. Thanks for all your time and effort Kent
OK....wait.... where are the pictures of it blocked? Come on now, don't hold out on those of us who live vicariously through other cars.
It is amazing to see a master at work!!! There will be way for anyone to pick at any detail on this car.
More progress pics. Metal conditioning the engine cover.
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Dash. Lot of damage and some rust. Sorry, these pics are not in order.
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Well Kent, you said it would be about a year and a half to finish. You're already a month behind. Let's pick up the pace. I want it, I want it, I want it! Obviously kidding. With the amount of work my car needed, I thought you were out of your mind on the timeframe. I knew my car was in the right place, and local too. You kicked ass. Now you have me wondering whether to have you start on the other one. Thanks for all you have done thus far. You're doing my car as if it was your own. Thanks for the attention to detail.
This first pic here is of a different dash. The goal was to copy the paint as factory. I also wrote the body number under the dash in my best German handwriting.
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Final blocked and taped off for undercoating and paint on underside, trunks, pass. comp. engine comp. The orange tape comes off after undercoating and before paint, it's covering all the holes so the undercoat doesn't blow through. It's Orange tape so I don't miss removing it.
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Undercoat. I tinted it to match the color of the factory undercoating. For this car, it will be fully painted orange and none of it will show though.
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Looks great as always!
What undercoating product did you use?
Can a paint shop tent it for you of did you have to do it in your own shop?
This is a great thread, you are a true craftsman. My hat is off to you!!
Jim is lucky to have you doing this restoration, great job!!
I'll go ahead and answer for Kent. He would say, "this customer is definitely worth it, the best I've ever had." And I would say, "go bump your nuts, Dave."
wow that looks fantastic. nice work.
my only concern with the bedliner coating would be a) excess weight and b) hiding rust in the future. But both are probably very minimal concerns.
You had my car dipped in orange juice? I like it
This thread needs more pictures....Very nice work.
I am way jealous. That Six is looking absolutely beautiful. First class work that anyone here would be blessed to have on their own car(s). That is a very lucky Six.
I am so looking forward to the day I can see pictures of my tub in color.....I know it is going to happen....I hope it happens soon.
Wow, after you lay the blue stripes on that thing it's gonna be tits. You gonna paint them or use vinyl?
Dave, stop chewing on your crayons and get back in the basement.
Kent, you do some great work. Keep posting the pics.
I hope the owner of this 6 keeps this thread alive during the assembly process.
Your idea of the orange valances, rocker covers and painted top sound great too.
Are you still going with the wing on the back?
Larmo, it appears you and Dave have been comparing notes on your way to school while riding on the short bus. If you get a chance, maybe you and him can collaborate and do a finger paint rendition of my car. Keep the great ideas coming. I'll be speaking with your teacher on Monday.
Tangerine, Tangerine, Living reflection from a dream...
I was her love, she was my queen
Alright Kent, I'm coming to check her out tomorrow. I expect some results. Make sure you look busy when I get there.
Very Nice!
Orange you glad to move onto your own Six next ??
fantastic resurrection
Wow, I'm just seeing this thread today. Nothing short of awesome
I'd like to visit your shop some day ... I live in Torrance most of the time these days.
914350,
You had me checking in on your progress daily, and now I'm spoiled....no pics for a four days!
Beautiful car and restoration!!
I have a question regarding the 6 holes in the rear trunk floor. They appear to be for a heat shield but I thought the early cars (both 4 and 6 cylinder) did not have a heat shield, but instead had the additional pad in the rear trunk to buffer heat. Does a 6 have a metal heat shield?
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Yes they had heat shields. I have a '70 -6 and it has the same holes for a heat shield. Early cars had bolts to attach and later cars were welded
Well, thanks a lot Kent. Now I have to work some overtime. A lot of overtime
More progress pics. Jim did a GREAT job of restoring all the parts.
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Wow, that looks incredible.
Congrats
That is really awesome!
Your trunk paint is cleaner than most people's exterior paint!
My favorite part...reassembling the shiny new bits.
That is looking beautiful - nice work and parts restoration too.
For those doing a rotisserie restoration, do yourself a favor. Make sure you put the plastic boot on the steering shaft before you install the suspension. Then, when you put that on don't forget to install the shaft bearing. This should have been a one step process of installing the suspension, but, because of me we removed the suspension twice. Also, make sure you clean the blasting media and any grease from the inside of the a arms. You'll save a lot of time and stress. I tend to learn things the hard, expensive way. This car is no exception. I have other restoration tips that I will share along the way. Tips that I learned the hard way. Stay tuned.
Kent and James, those wheels and tires look like $hit. I have some genuine imitation polished western style wheels I'll sell you for $1,500. Maybe think about flares before you paint it. That way you could run some really wide centerlines with BF Goodrich tires.
I'm working on a GT project; the body work is now in process. This is likely obvious to many, but can you tell me what type of paint you used. Single stage or two stage, and what brand?
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Kent and James, those wheels and tires look like $hit. I have some genuine imitation polished western style wheels I'll sell you for $1,500. Maybe think about flares before you paint it. That way you could run some really wide centerlines with BF Goodrich tires.
Dave, Dave. I'll have you know that the front ones are super damn close to original 6 1/2 inch fake Fuchs. The rear are Fuchs. I think. Anyway, they still retain their original patina and worn tires. Original is the way to go. Loser!
You can always put fiberglass flares on it later.
Candy !
This is a beautiful car that is way over the top.
That means....you have to....or must....show us multitudes of pics.
Karma has dealt you that my friend.
Seriously, I'm saving a bunch of your pics for a "go by" when I start putting my car back together next year.
Really great stuff....
I think I still have pieces of the old ones I took off. When Dave isn't huffing on the bondo, I'll graft them back on. Great ideas from both you and Dave (Wal Mart shoppers).
Painted. Now it will get color sanded with 3 diff. grits of sandpaper and a 3 stage polish.
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Wet Glass
Damn! That looks so good. The factory never sprayed them that nice. That is going to be fun to watch as it begins to come together. Best wishes.
Hey Kent. Is it me, or are you trying to get my car done? Looks good, thanks!
It might be the pics, but the drivers side door looks a little wavy. Nice work Kent, car shows in SoCal will never be the same.
What can I say? Absolutely beautiful! You have turned a rusty crock into a swan. I hope we get to see the entire process until the car is finished. I'm just glad I don't have to pay the bill at the body shop!
you'll wish you went Gold...Looks Great !!
Candy!
Tell that to Cairo. He's the gold color guy
Don't hate the playa, hate the game.
<------------IS JEALOUS!!!!!
That looks great, Jim!
Beautiful car, love the color, it looks like Tangerine!
awesome work
Hey Cairo, no hating. I'm just a fan of original, and gold looks good. From one 830 to another. Hope to see your car soon.
No worries - I was joking. But you know my car will not see gold paint as long as I own it. But that makes your car worth more because there were so few gold ones to begin with.
Andy showed up with his car, made for some nice pics.
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Absolutely beautiful.
I'm finnished with my part on the car, now it's headed home with Jim. I will be going out to his place now and then to help with assymbly but at this point, I'm turning this thread over to him. Thanks for all the nice compliments on the car throughout the thread, I appreciate it very much.
Kent S.
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Wow! Great work.
I"ll do what I can to make you proud. Thanks, dude. You kicked some major ass. No regrets or disappointments.
Wow Sir Jim your car is finally done with Kent's expertise! Is it at your house now for assembly? I noticed ur going to Cars and Coffee Aliso Viejo tomorrow. hope I can join u guys also.
Nice seeing both Jim and Andy's car that was done at Kent's shop!
Nothing short of awesome. Nary a ripple, nor a ding on it
... wished I could afford to offer that kind of treatment to any of my cars ...
I don't know about you guys but I can spot a problem from here....a big problem.
There is no way I'd want to touch that to start putting it back together. I'd be too afraid to nick that beautiful paint. Wow! Fantastic job!!!
Absolutely stunning work! I went back and read the entire thread. I never do that. .
Well I decided Jim's beautiful car needs to be seen and share some assembly pictures. We are getting close to completion and it's been a lot of work and fun. Enjoy the pics and I will keep updating this thread as we wrap this restoration up
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until next weekend
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Hey Andy and Kent. Yous guys are kicking ass and the car is coming along great. Once I get over this bout of vaginitis, we are going to celebrate. I figure a lunch at 7-11 eating one of their radioactive hot dogs ought to do the trick. A word of advice for anyone doing a restoration, save all your wires and do not unravel the wiring harness. Among other things. Oh, and have some guys on hand who know what the hell they're doing. I love you sons a bitches!
Stunning work!
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I am about to install my transmission and I saw this picture of the rear mounts. Is the large cup washer under the trans mount or above? The inter web shows it above.
Brian
Thanks ! That is what I thought.
Oh yeah, this too.
Terrible pic and messy setting.
April 2009....drove it to Hershey three days later after full engine rebuild
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Outstanding!
Beautiful! Love seeing a narrow body restoration.
settle down guys, with two guys and no lift we were busy with the front mount and quickly hung it.
This is what happens when you let the owner of the car help with the restoration. Let that be a lesson to you, Andy and Kent. I told you to keep me away from my car. You idiots!
After four hours of troubleshooting, Andy, Kent and our resident electrical engineer Bob, were able to get the fan on the windshield defroster to work. On all three speeds no less. I have owned seven 914's, and this is the only fan that would actually work as designed. Maybe I was just buying the wrong 914's. More breakthroughs to come.
Beautiful work. Do you have a photo of where the stainless steel fuel rail goes and what the clips look like? Mpst photos of a 6 in the car do not loik up under the latch at the rail or they use alternative lines to the carbs
Car looks beautiful -stunning. I can't wait to see mine in that condition.
If you are going to have two people put your 914-6 back together after new paint & restoration, Andy and Kent are two great guys.
Meticulous is an understatement. This car looks even better in person.
Looking good there boys.
I see the trans was converted to side shift is there any pics of the shift rod installed?
Just wondering is you guys went with an aftermarket or home made solution ?
Hey Matt. Here is a picture of the panel between the trunk and engine compartment with one of the three clips attached. The second picture is of the fuel rail and a better view of the clip. Let me know if you have any other questions. Jim
Hey Luke. I went with the Patrick Motorsports set up. I figured that in the interest of not cutting a corner, I would just buy that one. I just sandblasted it today and painted it with satin black paint. It is shipped with a gold zinc coating. Jim
Although the windshield is in, it's not yet in the car. I waited about two months to get it. I'll let you know if it was worth the price and the wait. I also attached a picture of the NOS air leaner box. I gave the old one to Kent for helping me out. Now that I know how to post pictures, you guys are in trouble. Jim
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wow sir Jim, you're putting more value into your orange everyday! When the car is done, it will be valued to $$$,$$$.$$
Here are some early pictures of the car and one of the donor cars. L
Really nice transition, Jim
Hope to see it in person (if I ever get any of mine running again)
Looks great! How did you do the manufacturing date sticker? Looks brand new.
Konrad
Socalandy is the source for the stickers
Some more pictures. Valances, rocker panels and early inner door handle
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truly amazing ..really way out of my space but worth it for a car like yours.well done.
Jim,
Did you source new rockers or refurbish?
The work is fantastic.
Here is a picture of the seat rail and early seat adjustment lever. Notice how the lever is straight with no bend to it like the later levers. It certainly did not look like this before. It matched the rest of the car, meaning it was really rough. More mundane pictures to follow. Jim
"Mundane" may be a bit too high brow of a word for this group......
Some additional pictures.
The CV joint were about $250.00 per side. I thought that was a decent price, considering mine were shot.
The gauges have been in, but I wanted to post a picture. These were done through North Hollywood Speedo. At that time it ran $936.00 for all three. I just recently sent out another speedo and it was over $700.00. I think they've realized there aren't many others doing this service. I can only think of two other places. They're good, but pricey.
I would have redone your speedometer for $500.
Sorry I couldn't make it up there today
I finished putting the heater hoses and hose clamps in today. Along with the washer bottle. I ran the lines for the pump, but I'm going to need to spend some time to get them hooked up to the washer nozzles on the cowling. For future reference to those running these lines, run them before you snap the nozzles into place. Another lesson learned. If I ever do my other six, I have learned some invaluable lessons. Many of them cost me a lot of time and money. Oh well the adventure continues. Jim
I checked my factory manuals and it shows the overflow hose for the master cylinder reservoir going in a clockwise direction. Many of the ones I have seen in person travel around the reservoir in a counter clockwise fashion. It's not that big of a thing, but I'm trying to stay original with a few exceptions. I have also seen only one set of hose clamps near the bottom of the hoses from the reservoir and others with hose clamps at top and bottom. I think it looks better having two sets, and in my twisted thinking it looks better and makes sense. Stay tuned, Jim.
I have never seen hose clamps on the fabric brake reservoir hoses.
Some other interesting things that I have found, there is an early reservoir cap and a late reservoir cap. The later one has a smal flange at the bottom and the early one does not. Also, there is a set of early front hood springs and a late set of front hood springs. The early ones have a slight bend near the curved portion of the springs and the late ones are straight. Neither set is easy to get off, but the early ones are a little easier. Another time consuming lesson learned.
Coming soon to a computer near you, the new updated and correct installation of the transmission mounts. Thanks to Andy and Kent.
Started messing around with the flapper boxes today. It makes me feel like I'm making progress, and I am. I just get a little impatient. I tend to want things yesterday. It drives my wife crazy, but what does she know? I also just received my fuel pump. You know when it has a Porsche symbol on the box, you had better put your knee pads on, because you're going to be driven around the room. I thought about having my existing pumps rebuilt, but I figure you can't go wrong with new. By the way, if someone rebuilds them I have three. Jim.
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Transmission mounts.
Wow rare flapper boxes with correct holes !
Here is today's installment of expensive lesson learned. On the left you will see a freshly plated 914/4 stub axle. On the right is a freshly plated 914/6 stub axle. If you are putting a six together, don't confuse the four stub axle with the six. The difference is virtually nothing in value for the four stubs and about 4 to 600 for the six stubs. Provided you can find a set. Notice the serial number on the four stub axle and none on the six stubs. The spline count is also different. I'm sure there are members here who would say that the difference is pretty evident, and it is now. But when I sold the freshly plated six stub axles for almost nothing I didn't know that. Another expensive lesson learned. Tune in regularly and I will point out other expensive lessons. Jim.
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Ouch! I hate when that happens.
I mixed up my pictures. The one on the left is for a 911. I thought it would work on a six, but they are not interchangeable. The one on the right is definitely for a six. Carry on.
There are 911 stubs that fit. You just have to find the correct ones. 914-6 stubs have there own part number but there is a 911 stub that's identical with a 911 part number.
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This is my latest post of overpriced NOS parts for a 914. This mirror is not specific to a 914/6 but it is correct for an early 914. Notice how narrow it is. It obviously will fit all years though. Another one of those parts that you have to re-finance your house to get. Or in my case, re-finance my trailer. As some of you can relate, as you progress through your restoration you reach a point that you don't care about the cost anymore you just want the car finished.
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Sorry, triple post.
Jesus....I just went through this whole thread. Absolutely top-notch, beyond comparison work throughout this entire build. This is definitely the bench mark in addition to Andy's car. That's so pretty I would want to put it in my living room to enjoy and keep clean and pretty.
Jim was going to put it in his living room, but we pointed out it would probably fall through the floor of his mobile home.
Here is a picture of the correct early horn and the correct TN/1 driving light lense. Thanks to Blue6. The horn is the same for a Volkswagen. Notice the slotted screws as opposed to the later riveted cover.
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Looking fantastic. I think those rubber plugs are installed back to front.
The horns on my 71 914-4 are riveted not screwed....and I'm pretty sure they are original.
Are you positive about the screws?
Both of the pictured cars are 1970s...orange one 3/'70...yellow one 5/'70 ?
Both are 6s but I don't think that matters.
It's an early thing.
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In my experience most 1970 914s horns had screws
Please note the color.
Appear to be galvanized
Glen is correct, 70 cars had screws. Horn covers are galvanized not plated or painted.
Let there be light. The horns work as well. Stay tuned for when the headlights pop up.
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All the early horns I have ever seen had screws and were galvanized. I had mine cad plated silver as they were really tattered.
Fantastic build and attention to detail & look forward to my daily 1st thing in the morning fix with a cup of
Here are a couple of pictures of the targa bar pad. We noticed that when we were fitting another pad, there were no holes on the underside of the targa bar where you would attach the screws vertically to hold the pad on. There were screw holes to attach it horizontally, but none vertically. This particular area of the car was in great shape, and as such did not need any bodywork. When I took the original pad off, I don' t remember if it had holes or not. The pad, like the rest of the car was thrashed. Is there another 914 or 914/6 out there with no holes on the underside of the targa bar? Seeing as how I already had a targa pad out to be recovered, I had the underside holes of the pad covered over. I didn't want to drill holes in the car that weren't there. Andy found a guy in Torrance to recover it. It came out pretty ice. Another peculiar 914 thing.
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Mind sharing the Torrance upholsterer info? ... I'm in Torrance and my pad could stand to be redone
Happy 4th everyone !!!
Were on the short end of it now Polished the mirrors, vapor barriers and door panels
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Everything looking killer on your car. Well done!
yehey! After Andy did most of the help finishing Jim's orange, now I can test drive it or maybe just Jim's white not this expensive orange! hehehe
Congratulations sir Jim! Happy Independence Day!
Wowzer! That really looks very nice. My hat is off to you guys.
So beau-ti -ful! Thank you for posting... living vicariously thru your thread. It's much less expensive this way.
That looks great!
My hat is off to all of you guys who put this roller back on the road.
Nice job ! Jim
You should "trailer" it down to Temecula 914 day!
It's to clean to drive !
Beautiful!
I disassembled the seat belts and had the hardware clear zinced. I also had them re sewn. Some upholstery shops won't sew them, for obvious reasons. I also have the center seat belt, but I think I'll be using the center tray with the hinged top. The center seat belt would look kind of weird with that type of tray. I'll have a picture of the center tray shortly. It was recovered and looks pretty good. Jim
Beautiful restoration.
I noticed that you used some sound deadening material on the firewall. Are you going to install it on the floor as well?
What kind did you use? Dynamat?
Great job.
Bill.
Can't wait to see ur car sir Jim!
She's looking stunning boys
Had the windshield installed today. Big difference in appearance. One more thing that leads us closer to the finish line. It definitely gives it a finished look. B pillar pads, inside rear view mirror, visors. and pad up next. I'm tempted to have the boys push me around the block just to make me feel like I'm actually driving.
Looking like a future Parade winner !
Vroom Vroom.
Nice car Jim. Could you please post a side shot of the new windshield to show the profile of the curvature at the top?
Thx
Here are some shots of the side of the windshield. It's kind of difficult to see the curvature at the top. I'm going to check the windshield on my white car and see if the curvature is the same or more pronounced. The windshield on my white 914 is original to the car. I'll try to check it out tomorrow and report back with the results. Jim.
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Wonderful car, it looks really great!!
Getting closer!
Here are a couple of side shots of the original windshield on my white 914. Seems to be the same curvature of the one on the orange car. Jim
Jim,
Thanks for checking both cars, especially since your white one has the original glass.
The reason I was asking is because I remember reading about some of the new glass having less curvature but I had no frame of reference. At some point I'll replace mine and since you had just installed the Porsche glass in the orange, I was curious. Is the glass in the orange one NOS or a recent Porsche Classic part?
I recently bought the verticle sail panel trim and eventhough is says Porsche and Made in Germany, the shape on the inside at the bottom is not the same - I'm still trying to determine if I going to use it or not.
It didn't look like old packaging for the windshield. I would say it was probably Porsche Classic. I had to work a little on my sail panel trim as will. So much so that I damaged one and ordered another one. I believe it was $150.00. Another expensive lesson learned. Jim.
Some more progress last weekend but didn't take many photos. NOS mirror
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This should come to life this weekend that means video with some noise
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Ask and ye shall receive. The last picture shows a rubber grommet to protect that piece. I may use it as the stop for the emergency brake. Jim.
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I would not be able to sleep until I heard that beauty roar to life.....
Sorry I didn't take many photos on his weekend but here's some of what got done
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I will get caught up on pictures this week
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Gorgeous car Andy.
I'll be using all your great pics as reference when I get ready to put my car together.
Nice job.
WOW.
Amazing transformation!
Andy,
This is really a super clean restoration, you should be very proud.
Bob B
Thanks but I'm not the only one that has a hand in bringing this one back to life. It's Jim's "banananose914" car with Kent's amazing metal and paint work. We've all had fun putting it back together!!!
Put the spare tire and rim in today. With the correct hold down. I used Wurth satin black, but I think it came out too glossy. I should have stayed with the other satin black I normally use. Another lesson learned. I have also found that the push button on the Wurth paint can takes quite a lot of pressure. Anyway, the rim looks pretty decent, but I may just re-spray it again using the paint I'm familiar with. The face of the rim is polished to match the rims on the car.
Sir Jim, It's time you drive that beautiful 914-6 to various car shows and to Cars and Coffee! Congratulations!
It's alive It's alive
https://youtu.be/HTmjkFRyovE
nice super healthy engine sound!
Hooking up linkage so he can take it around the block
Think I have camera rotation down for iphone
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Congratulations Jim, Andy and Kent. That is such a great sound. Now we will need video of this Six moving under its own power next.
And away he goes
https://youtu.be/XjD4jUmjvvc
A bit more syncing of the carbs and on to the interior
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Big, big fat ass day today! Andy, Kent and Bob hit a grand slam! We have had other kick ass days, but today was the biggest. I thought we were doing well when the engine started. Little did I know I would be driving it today as well. I even got the tires to bark. Although the engine case is matching, the engine itself has a little something more than a stock 2 liter.
This car sat outside for almost twenty three years being neglected. Once I got it, it was another almost three years to get it to this point. Thanks, bitches. You three guys f-n kill me.
PS. If you listen real close at the end of the video, you can hear my wife say, "why is he driving like such an idiot?" Andy said, "your day was when you got married, this is his day." Damn right, bitch!! You tell her Andy!
You talk like big man on campus until she reads this thread. Your just lucky she let you drive "her" car.....
Congratulations!!!!!
You guys are a very good team, and it sounds great.
Well, now that you guys are done with Jim's car ... my address is ...
Jim, nice little acceleration mark and the Six sounded great.
Are we ever really in control once we get hitched....? Regardless, congratulations dude.
I wish my red car looked like his red car.......................
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It was a pretty cool day and to see Jim's face light up when the car came to life was priceless!! This passion for these cars has created some great times and life long friendships. I feel lucky to have been involved with Jim's Six and do this for a living as well!!! Working in the same bay our own Slits once worked in
Thanks Jim
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Nice job guys ! Can't wait to drive it .
This was actually Jim's first run/Pre-burnout in the car.
https://youtu.be/piK_COm0u_E
Sooooo
How's it coming along gentlemen?
Eddie/Eddy? You need to get your ass over here and check it out.
Some more progress today almost ready for carpet and wrap up the interior. Just a very short list of things to do...
Also great to meet Michael "Cairo" and his brother today. Good Times
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Andy, what matting did you use on the floor pan and firewall?
Thanks
I might as well do my floor while the interior is torn out ...
I've eaten off dishes that wasnt as clean as that....
Wow - Hey Andy - you guys really shifted into high gear after we left. That looks terrific. We had a great time hanging out, talking and seeing your car.
I think he was being facetious and simply forgot to put one of these at the end of his post:
Now, if you would have place the cover on your fuse block, none of this would have ever taken place
Wow your car looks amazing! Love the great sounds your engine makes.
Jeff B
I NEVER said I didn't appreciate the project... how could you not appreciate the detail and precision that these gentleman have put into this most beautiful six??? It goes without saying.
* Bannananose: next time you get together to wank with your "insightful" friend take a time out and ask him to enlighten you on sarcasm. Oh, and
Another day at Jims. We go a lot done. Carpets and seats are in. Andy and Jim relaxing after a long day in the hot garage.
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Wow! That looks like it rolled out of the factory o only better. You guys are setting the new standard on these restorations. I just hope my car looks that nice.
Cheers Michael
One of the most satisfying parts of a resto IMO
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one more Sunday to completion
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Wow Bananabeek, that looks great. Only question is about the seatbelt holster. Weren't they aftermarket or dealer installed?
Who said he is going to holster his seatbelt in it? It might have another purpose? Derringer?
Another big day today. Andy, Kent, Bob and Dave, thanks for all the help. By the time we restore my other car, I promise I'll have air conditioning in the garage. Today was brutal. Brutally hot, but damn good.
Those carpets look great; what company makes those? =
Wow and wow again...thinking this is one of those benchmark cars.
Great looking car. Is that person carpeting?
Thanks,
Bill.
It's German Perlon from Autobaun in San Diego
Thanks Socalandy,
I have to replace the carpet on my now and I can't make up my mind.
Bill.
It's great that Jim, Kent, Andy and crew have done this already and know where to go to get all the good stuff our cars need. I love that carpeting. That will make my life easier as my car moves along.
AppBiz makes pretty nice German Perlon kits too.
Your car looks great, Jim. When you do the "white" one, are you going to do a GT?
Well I think we pretty well wrapped it up today. It’s going to alignment in the morning and hook up vapor recovery lines to engine shroud and air box. DONE
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Uploading some clips to YouTube and post when done. I
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Built with more care and attention than the factory.
Simply stunning.
Congratulations to Jim, Andy and Kent for another terrific Six.
https://youtu.be/Ak9vsEbd6n0
super beautiful sir Jim! good job Andy and Kent!
That's perfection!
Beautiful! Excellent build.
for those asking the carpet kit is from Autobahn . They also do an amazing job wrapping steering wheels. remember to specify early or late so the passenger side mat is the correct size. Perlon and German velour full kits including trunks
https://www.autobahninteriors.com/
7949 Stromesa Ct. Ste# e
San Diego CA 92126
Email- info@autobahninteriors.com
Tel- 858-453-2400
Another one saved! Incredible craftsmanship guys. To pull a body apart like that and rebuild it perfectly and correctly....very hard to do. Check out the panel gaps!
Nice job fellas. You know, if Porsche ever decides to start up 914 production again, you guys will have good jobs
Seriously, the time $ and effort you guys put into Jim's car really shows well.
The car went out on Monday for an alignment and now it's back in my shop for a full polish/detail.
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Wowzer! It looked terrific before. I can't wait until the next time I see it.
I could never own a car that looks that nice - I'd be afraid to drive/park it anywhere
Socalandy your car is absolutely a benchmark !! Absolutely stunning
Many miles of enjoyment wished for you.
SoCalAndy's car is indeed very nice; this one is Jim's though. They are both stunning examples.
Amazing! I am saving the cash to get in line to have you take a look at my black car, Kent.
Jim's car is absolutely crazy beautiful. I am glad it was sitting next to my car. I know my car was feeling a lot better seeing what the end result will look like.
Stunning !!!!!
Did you get your back pad re-upholstered?
If yes, can you please share who did such a nice job?
Thx and your car looks incredible.
Well, it's official, the car is done! Kent, Andy, Bob, Dave and the stupid owner have accomplished a most momentous task. I couldn't have found a better group of people to help me in getting the car back together.
Today consisted of many final adjustments. Along with many other final adjustments along the way. For anyone who has done a restoration, you can sympathize and relate. For those who are in the process, or thinking about it, you are in for a love/hate relationship.
Although it is truly rewarding, you are in for many ups and downs. Some days you can't wait to work on it, and other days you feel like there is no end in sight. Some days of thinking you're on top of your resto, and then days when you hit bottom. And many days where you realize that you're missing some important parts, and some of those parts will turn out to be almost irreplaceable. This was a regular occurrence. Oh, and you will be visiting the bank quite often.
Through the roller coaster ride of restoring a 914, you will see how important it is to have a group of people/friends who know what they're doing in restoring a 914. It's also important to have a website such as this as a guide, and a way to reach out to others for help.
Thanks for all ya all's help. You done good. In the immortal words of Michael Jackson, I love you, I love you all! Eee, hee!!
Now, off to Cairo's car. It's the next 6 to be awoke from a long sleep.
Sir Jim, again Congratulation to your 101% super super nice 914-6! Better than when it is brand new from dealer in 1970!
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It is so true. This whole process is a roller coaster of emotions. I look at Jim and Andy's cars and can't believe that mine will one day be painted and together. I can't wait until January when I get to return to L.A. to visit and see the progress.
It's a work of Art! Excellent workmanship.
Absolutely stunning Jim.
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