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Posted by: McMark Nov 23 2014, 08:09 PM

Choose the overall design. Colors and slight design changes may occur as we finalize the badge.
.Choose the overall design. Colors and slight design changes may occur as we finalize the badge.
..Choose the overall design. Colors and slight design changes may occur as we finalize the badge.
...............Choose the overall design. Colors and slight design changes may occur as we finalize the badge.
....Choose the overall design. Colors and slight design changes may occur as we finalize the badge.
..........Choose the overall design. Colors and slight design changes may occur as we finalize the badge.


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Posted by: tumamilhem Nov 24 2014, 09:36 AM

DEFINITELY #1!

PS - f number one doesn't win, I think the others that say 914 world.com, the.com I think should be eliminated and just show 914 world. Just my 2 cents. Nice job and go number one! :-)

The color for 914 pops and definitely keep the connectors between the numbers as they are on the emblem. It's simple, nice and clean and not busy. I also like the colors that wrap around the globe, it's much more interesting than straight across like the other ones.

Posted by: G e o r g e Nov 24 2014, 09:38 AM

I like # 3, but only in solid color like this

Posted by: tumamilhem Nov 24 2014, 09:40 AM

maybe entertaining making the top two winners to have a choice - or both? Just a suggestion. I would definitely get both if two different ones are made.

Posted by: RobW Nov 24 2014, 09:44 AM

I like 14 because its busy!

Posted by: ben*james Nov 24 2014, 10:22 AM

#1 appears to have a spoiler on it and that spoils it for me. W/O I'd have voted for it.

Posted by: McMark Nov 24 2014, 10:22 AM

Lots to read while you're waiting for the tow truck?

Posted by: CptTripps Nov 24 2014, 10:23 AM

I think it's telling that there have been 135 votes, and the numbers are all over the place. Everyone likes something.

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Nov 24 2014, 10:27 AM

I dunno. #1 has twice the voted of its next closest competitor.

Zach

Posted by: OU8AVW Nov 24 2014, 10:30 AM

I'll buy any of the top contenders and proudly display it on my ride!

Posted by: tumamilhem Nov 24 2014, 01:01 PM

Yeah the spoiler spoils it.
No spoiler?

Posted by: G e o r g e Nov 24 2014, 01:29 PM

Can we get #11 made into a http://www.printglobe.com/fun-and-games/poker-chips/poker-chips/poker-chips-custom-clay-composite-115-gram?

Posted by: Mueller Nov 24 2014, 01:34 PM

^ditto

Posted by: jim_hoyland Nov 24 2014, 02:27 PM

good point !

Posted by: bandjoey Nov 24 2014, 02:35 PM

Hurray! I'm #1 in both polls. although I like about 4 of them.

Posted by: Chris914n6 Nov 24 2014, 02:59 PM

#1 will _NOT_ have the spoiler if it's produced.

Lots of good designs to choose from

Posted by: RobW Nov 24 2014, 03:53 PM

Oh great! Now we all need to vote again!

Posted by: steuspeed Nov 24 2014, 07:08 PM

I voted 1 and 14.

Add the wing window
Drop the spoiler
Sail panel needs to be bigger
Match the red/yellow/black colors to the globe lines
It might look good with the bigger 16 side edge. It's sort of a 914ish shape.

Posted by: malcolm2 Nov 24 2014, 07:24 PM

That is COOL... maybe a red car, or silver, or just something to contrast the black globe. It would have been my vote. too late now.

Posted by: malcolm2 Nov 24 2014, 07:27 PM

16 needs wheels.... and what is that red blob? the engine?

Posted by: ben*james Nov 25 2014, 10:10 AM

Hands down victory for #1 then! (minus the spoiler)

In my opinion...



All very cool designs. Whatever wins, I can't wait to get one!
Hopefully the grill won't need to be modified to mount it like it did with the club badge.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 25 2014, 10:42 AM

No matter which badge gets produced, it will be cool to have something to tie us all together.
As far as the modification on the club badge, what was the issue, hole spacing for studs off the back?

Posted by: PanelBilly Nov 25 2014, 02:30 PM

Where's the one with a jack stand?

Posted by: Mike Fitton Nov 25 2014, 03:23 PM

Good Idea! Yes red blob is the engine!

Posted by: ben*james Nov 25 2014, 06:26 PM

The mounting stud (single not double) was too wide to fit through the grill. So, as I understand it, members had to widen the grill where they wanted the badge. I have one and can post pics if it would help.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 26 2014, 09:38 AM

These will be a double, so they shouldn't be a problem.

Posted by: ben*james Nov 26 2014, 09:58 AM

Every single 914 on the road, in garages, in museums, or on jackstands....
Should have a world badge.

Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 29 2014, 07:20 PM

Looks like 1 so far, would like to get this wrapped up so we can get production. Monday we will have the winner so vote now!

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 29 2014, 07:36 PM

A few suggestions about #1 ...

- Ditch the rear spoiler
- Make the black/red/gold sections actually follow the horizontal globe lines
- Put the "WORLD" and "Since 2006" close together and center them over the black outline of the car

Posted by: Chris914n6 Nov 29 2014, 08:59 PM

Wait... don't you get the final say anyways?

I'll make updated artworks with the various fixes and suggestions.

Whoever is making these pm me the needs for the production file. I used to do sign cnc work from Coreldraw so it's up my alley.

The bottom of the webpage says since 2002... is 2006 correct?

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 29 2014, 10:45 PM

Well, i did say we'd put it up for voting.
As far as the date goes, "world" came to be in 2006. Before that, we were 914Club, which started in 2002.

The website never changed much, if you look at older posts, they're all here from late 2002 up to today.

Posted by: pisces914 Dec 8 2014, 10:54 PM

any word on when these will be ready for sale?

thanks for putting this together

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 8 2014, 11:33 PM

The layout is being done up now. We will have an extra $2.50 per badge for the gold finish, but it will be classy.

I Hope to have the 1st sample before Christmas, but have not been given time line yet.
My best guess is they will be mid January, I will post a thread as soon as it gets more solidified.

Mark


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Posted by: pisces914 Dec 8 2014, 11:36 PM

awesome - thanks again, brad

Posted by: tumamilhem Dec 8 2014, 11:40 PM

NICE!

Posted by: tumamilhem Dec 8 2014, 11:41 PM

"Spoiler" alert! lol

Posted by: Chris914n6 Dec 9 2014, 01:09 AM

I was working on updated artwork right now.
Spent too much time messing with jack stands.....
Car silhouette based on the blueprint instead of my 914turbo logo.

White letters and not metal as in the selection grid?

Posted by: veekry9 Dec 9 2014, 01:18 AM

Gotta say,sprockets and beer caps is what came to mind.
I've alway been a non-conformist,I don't plagarize to make it easy.
Knowing what a gear profile is called and what it looks like is why.
Something different and Original.
I won't be hurt if you don't pick mine,it was a few minutes work,nothing to it.

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 9 2014, 01:41 AM

Oops,
I had a diferent file. Not quite sure how I dorked it up, but I will change over to the all gold as voted on. Fortunately I had not finalized the layout.

Posted by: billh1963 Dec 9 2014, 07:49 AM

These will be available when?

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 9 2014, 12:10 PM

Most likely mid Jan.

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 9 2014, 01:23 PM

I still think the background colors should follow the globe lines.

Posted by: Chris914n6 Dec 9 2014, 01:56 PM

They will as it's painted on between the lines. Making individual boxes that follow the curves just for 'perfect' artwork would take too much time.

This is what it looks like without the graphics. It would still need to be adjusted to be a production file as it's got all sorts of flaws.

Posted by: dale73914 Dec 9 2014, 05:01 PM

Looking forward to having one of these

It should compliment my Porsche club badge nicely on the other side of the number plate


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Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 20 2014, 12:08 AM

We have matched the colors to the German flag, here's the layout.
The recessed metal and gold are the same, just on different levels.


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Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 20 2014, 12:10 AM

Kind of like this.


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Posted by: boxsterfan Dec 20 2014, 12:14 AM

Entire vote is invalid. There is no rust on the badge.

Posted by: pisces914 Dec 20 2014, 12:31 AM

are you keeping the spoiler?

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 20 2014, 12:51 AM

You know I pulled the original as it was voted on and the wire frame was more work. I totally missed it. I did intend to pull the spoiler. Guess it's nice to get you guys to proof for me. Sometimes I'm just too close to see the elephant.
-Mark

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 20 2014, 11:42 AM

Oh well, i guess i should have been more clearer with my comments.
I meant to fill the curved section of the globe center with red so the red follows the curved globe lines.

I didn't want the red to be straight and i certainly didn't want additional gold outlines on a straight red.

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 20 2014, 11:49 AM

Here you go, colors follow the lines and no spoiler. This looks so much better, IMHO.




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Posted by: shelby/914 Dec 20 2014, 02:01 PM

Perfect

Dan

Posted by: JStroud Dec 20 2014, 02:54 PM

Much better!!

Posted by: Chris914n6 Dec 20 2014, 03:23 PM

WTF Mike??
I give you corrected artwork, you don't use it.
I offer to make a production file, you don't take it.

The original post of this submission states the intention of the design that was constrained by time and software. Voters comments confirm the desire for the intention of the design.

The spoiler car logo is owned by 914turbo.com (Me) and cannot be used by 914world.

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 20 2014, 04:18 PM

OK, Not quite sure how to respond here. I never got the corrected artwork. I did get the file with all the extra goodies. I pulled the image from the voting page and sent to my guy to work on. We needed to specify colors and as this is a German car thought it appropriate to match the flag.

The comment on the spoiler being deleted was taken as most cars don't have spoilers, so why have it.

I'm just trying to get these done as quickly and efficiently as I can. So we are not using the spoiler logo. Is there a problem?

-mark

Posted by: tumamilhem Dec 20 2014, 06:09 PM

I can't wait for these. I'm going to get a handful. Will there be only one badge or variants of one? I like the gears. Nice job all around.

Posted by: Chris914n6 Dec 20 2014, 10:08 PM

Dec 11th I sent you this dwg file even though you only asked for the globe lines.



Then I don't hear from you until today when you post this...



I have made it quite clear that the original was a rushed idea and that I would need to make changes, but you don't seem to be paying attention.
I have repeatedly offered to make the production file for the maker only to be ignored. I have advanced fabrication experience with a cnc router, I can build a file nobody needs to touch if I knew your guy's production method. You've gotten yourself more involved then you need to be.

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 21 2014, 04:41 AM

I'm sorry,
I was not ignoring you. I didn't see the file and proceeded to make these available. They will not have the tail, and will be as Andy put forward on the last reply.

I actually wanted to sponsor this to make it happen. It's not a for profit thing. It's about making something that we all want to show who we are as a group. I offered to do so as I have distribution and the ability to add in with orders as they go out. I'm bearing all the set up and manufacturing cost.

To be honest, I do hope that it encourages guys to buy other stuff off the site, but if all they want is the badge that's ok too. It's about $1800 out of pocket, and it may be awhile before I get it all back, buy I'm ok with that.

I'm not trying to piss anyone off, just make some badges and have some fun putting this together, so why is this a problem? I'm not trying to offend you personally.

Mark


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Posted by: 914bub Dec 21 2014, 05:54 AM

I'm curious about the "Est. 2006". I see member "join dates",dating back to 2002. What am I missing here?

Posted by: JmuRiz Dec 21 2014, 08:44 AM

Carry over from the old site split.

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 22 2014, 02:30 PM

So,
Gold 914, spoiler removed, lines corrected. Have I missed anything else?


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Posted by: 7TPorsh Dec 22 2014, 03:40 PM

Since you are at the last design step, I'll add my two cents. I am totally OCD over these kinds of things so please don't take this as criticism in any way. This is a great design.

I think with a few adjustments the car can look a little closer to the original.

- Front and rear ends a little stubbier, car too long.
- Add vent window
- Raise window sill line
- Shorten space between A pillar and targa
- Enlarge width of targa bar
- Curve the front fender line

Here is a quick and dirty.

Posted by: mepstein Dec 22 2014, 04:16 PM

even better.

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 22 2014, 04:49 PM

The layout has been finalized, short of a f up on my side I really don't want to get into modifying a design that was voted on. Some items are also subjective, if I start messing with it too much, I've changed it.

Some items like adding a vent window, really will not show up well or may look disproportionate as we do loose some fine detail.

I do appreciate the feedback,
Mark

Posted by: 7TPorsh Dec 22 2014, 05:25 PM

:beer

Posted by: jcd914 Dec 22 2014, 06:39 PM

Thanks Mike and everyone that contributed to this.


Jim

Posted by: Chris Pincetich Dec 22 2014, 09:17 PM

Sweet
Great work Mikey914 and Chris914n6 and everyone else who's contributed

Posted by: Chris914n6 Dec 23 2014, 01:15 AM

The design that was voted on was on condition of several changes. The 'voted on' artwork is illegal and you need to let go if it.

1. removal of my 914turbo car logo. The spoiler was only 1 of the 2 unique elements, the windshield without the glass support is the second. You are however uninhibited from using the car in the dwg file I sent you as it's a generic outline from the blueprint file.

2. The 'voted' on artwork does not have the outline on 914 WORLD. Since you filled in the letters from the wrong artwork it looks fat.

3. It's my creative property and you don't get to do whatever you want with it. Specially since you just tied it to a commercial endeavor.

4. I would love to see my design produced, but it is on the condition that it uses approved artwork.

Posted by: MikeInMunich Dec 23 2014, 08:11 AM

I, too, like this black design and think it would look good on my white '73. Would be interested in this one getting produced.

M.i.M.

Posted by: rick 918-S Dec 23 2014, 09:23 AM

Hey Chris, Why don't you identify by number how many of the designs in the voting section are yours. If it's really that big of a deal maybe we should just pull them and revote. Or actually the final design is similar but changed enough to "not be yours anymore" It's just a badge. There were several suggestions and changes throughout the design process. If you did want to contribute to the badge thing then why did you? Maybe your just joking around. If that's the case disregard the above. You can use my Alien head if you want.

Posted by: sb914 Dec 23 2014, 09:26 AM

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 23 2014, 10:05 AM

I have added the thin line to show the vent window. It this point it should be s significant enough change to satisfy your requirements.

Actually, the artwork that was submitted was solely to be used at the discretion of the admins. Since this is their gig. Anything submitted becomes property of 914world, as it it the "non" entity that has the say on how this comes together, and what is used or not used.

If we needed 10 paragraphs about how the submissions are the property of 914world and can be used at their discretion, you are missing the point here. Andy set this place up so that guys that love these cars can share information, and love of these cars. It's a labor of love, and to get problems solved. The last thing we need to do is make this a hassle for him.

Yes I am a commercial venture, I had hoped to use my distribution and labor to make these inexpensively, and distribute using my order and tracking system that is already in place. Anyone that has done GB's can tell you the organization, ability to, pack ,ship and track, are a challenge.

The DWG file I found was not executable in auto cad, so this is the best I can do.

Posted by: stugray Dec 23 2014, 10:11 AM

The last thing we need is to do a production run of something and THEN have an intellectual property battle.

Purge ALL of his designs and start over with the agreement that there will be NO "condition that it uses approved artwork"!

In fact I like that one so much, I will make my own.
A guy at work makes concert pins for the grateful dead.

He says he can have a run of just a dozen lapel pins or badges for about $100

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 23 2014, 11:25 AM

I'll tell you what.
Please provide the art worrk that is approved for 914 badge use in Jpeg format here in this thread, That way I'm just printing what you provide.

Posted by: 7TPorsh Dec 23 2014, 11:32 AM

I, as a contributor and the prickler who brought up the whole badge thing a few months ago when i tried this on another thread...I add two more cents.

I expect and assumed that any submission here (if picked) would be for the sole use by the admins of the World to use for the purpose of a badge. Whatever design was picked would be "owned" by the World. A gift. No conditions; to me this is obvious.

These designs are not available to anyone who wants to make their own.

In any business...you don't submit a final product pending conditions; especially on a visual design where any little change can change the whole look of the thing. Finalize the design then submit it. Hell were voting on it...can't say "Here this is it but change this and that". What will it look like then?

If you don't want it used; don't show it...period. Wastes energy and time.

Personally I like the overall badge design but I do not like the rendering of the car. It doesn't look right or proportional. And to me it will be enough of a deterrent to keep me from buying one; i won't want it on my car unless it looks right.

These badges aren't high end items as it is; the design has a major impact on the final product. If you look close at the PORSCHE crest badges floating around, the letters are all crooked....

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 23 2014, 12:09 PM

To be fair,
Once the artwork is posted. I'll post another thread for yes / no on final approval. If there's more than a 40% no, it should be a revote.
I was hoping to wrap these up and be in production by now, but sometimes thing don't work out as quickly.

Posted by: Rockaria Dec 23 2014, 12:28 PM

I would love to buy a badge... But not if this guy is involved in any form whatsoever... And this is coming from one artist to another.

Sorry for my rant, but man, this one design will not make anyone rich, so lighten up Francis!

Posted by: d914 Dec 23 2014, 12:39 PM

Here here!,!!!!

Posted by: Philip W. Dec 23 2014, 12:50 PM

just take the 2nd place one and move on - btw i dont see what he thinks would be HIS, the globe is not his original idea, the word World or 914 are not his idea, etc etc, so forgit the guy and his so-called intellectual property (which is VERY debatable) there were 2 others that i voted for and liked better anyway

Posted by: bandjoey Dec 23 2014, 01:00 PM

O H. C 0 M E. O N.

Get over it. There's no intent to make money. Stop being an sob over design. This is a fun project cause I love my car and it'll dress it up.

Move on and let's get this done. Hang together on this and kiss and make up.

Posted by: mepstein Dec 23 2014, 02:27 PM

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Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 23 2014, 11:29 PM

Hey,
I hope we can work this out and make these. I just want it to be clear that the design he is submitting can be used and that there are no issues. So I await the artwork. to be presented in this forum in Jpeg. As far as colors go, gold, white and the red and yellow colors to match the German flag. We have that figured out in the panatone color chart.

I think we can make this work. Often, when you read something it can sound like the other person is coming off like a dick. But if you have a conversation it's not the case. Things can be worded badly, and inflections that were not intended can be inferred. So lets' just give him the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 28 2014, 02:22 AM

Just awaiting a jpeg submittal to proceed on this.

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 28 2014, 12:27 PM

Actually, a JPG is probably bad since it's a loss compression and tends to blur out lines and edges.

For this, a PNG, TGA or even a BMP would be better (they are lossless), as long as they are in the correct size and don't have to be scaled to fit the badge.


I'm surprised the company making those badges can't utilize Photoshop files ...

Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 28 2014, 12:34 PM

They can. Only the last files I received I couldn't open. They were DXF and should open with Autocad, but they wouldn't open. I wanted the graphic posted so that 1 we could make sure everyone was still on board, and 2 make it clear that the artwork was submitted for our use here, leaving no question as to if it needed something added or taken out.

Posted by: stugray Jan 7 2015, 11:04 AM

So just for a dat point, I asked my co-worker for a quote on manufacturing badges of this type.
Here is his response:

These would be pretty much the highest quality badges. I wasn’t sure what size to use, but my factory said that most are either 3” or 3.5”, so I got quotes for both. Just let me know if you decide you want to place an order, or if there are any questions I can answer for you.

Cloisonné Grille Badges in a 3 inch with up to 4 colors and 2 studs on the back
25 - $30.00 each
50 - $20.00 each
100 - $15.00 each

Cloisonné Grille Badges in a 3.5 inch with up to 4 colors and 2 studs on the back
25 - $33.00 each
50 - $23.00 each
100 - $18.00 each


So as you can see they are willing to do small production runs of as little as 25.
I think the 100 number is a reasonable run and would probebly sell out @$20 ea.
This guy makes lapel pins for concerts like the Grateful Dead and has them manufactured in China.

I have no interest in trying to make any $$ on the side or being the middleman.
If anyone wants to speak with this person shoot me a PM.

Posted by: scotty b Jan 7 2015, 11:14 AM

I'd like to have one done with a 911 instead of a 914.

thanks for your effort, Scott

Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 8 2015, 12:15 AM

Update - Ray was helpful in getting the original submitted file open So Here's what we got-

These will be with the gold gear edge and will be $18 each.
I'm starting another thread to confirm that we all still want these.


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Posted by: tumamilhem Jan 8 2015, 10:14 AM

Sweet. I'm probably going to get three.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 8 2015, 12:25 PM

Posted by: Phoenix914 Jan 8 2015, 12:28 PM

Just wondering. . .will there still be gold edging around the letters and in the globe, or is that not possible?

It looks great like it is, though.

Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 11 2015, 10:58 AM

Yes, I opened a new thread as this one got pretty convoluted, final artwork only to be submitted, we all vote. and DONE

Posted by: Chris914n6 Jan 11 2015, 08:14 PM

I don't know what to say... I had a nice Holiday vacation

My submission was a concept that I was under the impression I would have time to refine, as is the case with any artwork intended for manufacture. Given the quality of other submissions this is quite reasonable to assume. What was taken by Mark for the vote was never meant to be the final artwork. My problem is Mark's resistance to allow changes to be made, plus his insane rush to jump into production. I said what I needed to -- to put the brakes on.

I am only demanding the opportunity to refine the concept, make changes based on feedback, and let the membership agree it's the best it can be.

As far as Mark goes, today's pm was a sign of the cooperation I was expecting, so I'm glad I didn't post yesterdays true feelings.

I did state that changes had to be made...

Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 11 2015, 08:47 PM

Thanks,
I do things pretty fast if I can. The intent is a complete concept, otherwise the vote means nothing. I may not have been completely clear.
So I started the Final thread, so that everything should be at a level playing field.
I thank all that have submitted and ask that all submissions be included in the final thread.
Thanks
Mark

Here's the thread.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=247991

Posted by: bandjoey Jan 12 2015, 07:29 PM

Could I suggest ...

Admins delete this thread and temporarily pin the new thread to the top and have a final art submit date posted.

I'm past ready as you are to move forward on this.

Posted by: pisces914 Jan 12 2015, 07:55 PM

thanks mark for putting this together - i sense impatience from some here - i want to stress the time and efforts it takes to get this done, and how it appears (to me) that none of these delays are mark's fault - rather, the selfish and entitled issues created by the creator of the winning design appear to have caused all of this trouble - and i say that while also thanking him (sincerely), and all others who contributed to the designs - if i were the benevolent dictator here, i would have simply moved to the #2 voted design, and proceeded - please remember, these (we) are volunteers - no one is making even part of a decent pay check on this - and i'll take 2 when they're done - thanks again, brad in seattle

Posted by: stevegm Jan 12 2015, 08:28 PM

I concur.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 12 2015, 09:22 PM

I have no interest in the previous winning design or any updates to that design but I'll buy a couple of the next winner whoever that is.

Posted by: sb914 Mar 18 2015, 05:58 AM

Is this still going to happen

Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 18 2015, 06:48 PM

I forgot about this. Was this set up to purchase yet?

Posted by: dale73914 Mar 19 2015, 10:32 PM

Im happy to buy too... or was that two ??

Cheers

Dale