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Posted by: swood Nov 27 2014, 04:13 PM
There is another 914 next to mine getting prepped for paint at Barry's shop in San Clemente. Is it anyone's in the group here?
Posted by: Larmo63 Nov 27 2014, 05:45 PM
I'm in San Clemente, I only wish mine was that far along. Where is Barry's? I'd go by and take a look at his work…..?
Posted by: swood Nov 27 2014, 09:11 PM
B&M. Around the corner from the Rainbow store. Just thought it was random that two green 914's find there way into the shop at the same time.
Posted by: rick 918-S Nov 27 2014, 09:16 PM
Posted by: Tom_T Nov 28 2014, 01:55 PM
Yeah, Rick will critique the quality of work for you too!
I've judged some 911s that came thru B&M, but can't tell how well they did what's under the paint once I see it done, but it was a good finish as I recall. They usually sponsor with a booth/tent at our OCR concours in Dana Point every June.
Posted by: swood Nov 28 2014, 10:08 PM
yeah yeah yeah...
They've done a few of my trucks body and paint repair due to 405 fun... I think i have my own repair menu there. Last time was the right side #4 special. 
Here's a couple shots from this week.
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Posted by: swood Dec 11 2014, 11:33 PM
like a joke. So a third 914 strolled into Barry's paint shot this week... He's painting 3. and #2 has my headlight covers. It's going swimmingly.
Posted by: Cuda911 Dec 12 2014, 01:47 AM
Ha, before Larmo chimed in, I would have bet $20 that it was his car.
"Like a joke. So a third 914 strolled into Barry's paint shot this week."
So, a Rabbi, a Priest, and a 914 walk into a bar......
Posted by: mbseto Dec 12 2014, 08:19 AM
A 914 walks into a bar and says, "Gimme a beer... and a mop."
Posted by: swood Dec 22 2014, 07:54 PM
Now i have to pick the paint color. I thought it would be easier to just match the stock color. Anyone know how to find the formula for Palma Green Metallic?
On the attached chart i think i found one that looks pretty close.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Dec 22 2014, 08:09 PM
That is almost as rare as owning 2 91s, and finding out the guy that is having the house built next door has owned a 914 since it was new.
Cool....
Needs more pictures.
Posted by: swood Dec 22 2014, 08:17 PM
and just noticed a guy 3 doors down has one in his driveway. and saw one driving through Lakewood Sunday. They just aren't that rare around here. Seems i see a different one on the road every week.
Posted by: swood Dec 23 2014, 11:39 PM
So guys, any advice on getting the correct color 40 years later? Rick?
Posted by: RenoRoger Dec 24 2014, 12:47 AM
So guys, any advice on getting the correct color 40 years later? Rick?
I walked into a store called Industrial Finishes, industrialfinishes.com, in Reno, NV yesterday. Gave them the paint code of my 1973 914, L 96B, Alaska Blue. They put the code into their computer and out came the answer. Yes, they can match it: Ful-thane Urethane SS 36028 IB B Std # 641498. Whatever all that means. They said I needed 2 quarts plus reducer and hardener, plus 1 qt of catalyzed type of primer. Total cost about $208. The paint is lead free.
Posted by: Cuda911 Dec 24 2014, 03:50 AM
The paint is lead free.
Thank goodness! Now anyone can safely lick your 914!!
Posted by: r_towle Dec 24 2014, 08:27 AM
If you have a piece of the car with the Original paint on it, you can bring it to a good auto paint shop with a digital camera and they can use the technology to match the color. Underside of the headlight cover...nice and flat, typically not prepped.
if you cannot do that, you may be able to contact Willhoit Restorations.
He may be able to do a spray out for you of the original color and give you the matching formula based upon today's paints.
I have used him for the 356 colors, not sure how he supports the 914 colors.
Posted by: swood Jan 6 2015, 09:13 PM
there is original paint under the rear deck lid so we'll color match it from a scan of that, its in nice shape. Going with PPG paint.
Posted by: ConeDodger Jan 6 2015, 09:30 PM
So guys, any advice on getting the correct color 40 years later? Rick?
I walked into a store called Industrial Finishes, industrialfinishes.com, in Reno, NV yesterday. Gave them the paint code of my 1973 914, L 96B, Alaska Blue. They put the code into their computer and out came the answer. Yes, they can match it: Ful-thane Urethane SS 36028 IB B Std # 641498. Whatever all that means. They said I needed 2 quarts plus reducer and hardener, plus 1 qt of catalyzed type of primer. Total cost about $208. The paint is lead free.
I can pretty much guarantee that no professional will want to spray that. Gilson Autobody charged me $1000 for paint to paint just the sides of mine after flares. Gil is a friend. No pro wants to squirt with bad paint. They'll spend too much time trying to make it right...
Posted by: McMark Jan 6 2015, 09:36 PM
E2409 looks pretty close to me, but that's based on a picture over the internet. 
Posted by: swood Jan 6 2015, 09:44 PM
Really? I put the sheet over the paint and E2424 looked closest. but of course its a 1/4" hole... not going to be a weenie over it 
Posted by: Chris H. Jan 7 2015, 12:02 PM
Palma Green Metallic is such a great, unusual color. You might want to consider ordering the exact color match or doing the scan over using that chart.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 7 2015, 01:45 PM
I think ConeDodgers comment about Ful Thane means that there are paints and then there are paints that are much better.
A professional who has done high quality prep will not skimp on paint cost.
Only high quality, known brand products will do. Sikkens, Glasurit, Spies-Hecker and Duponts higher line and other recognized labels are what you want to use.
And they cost plenty.
Oh ! and Palma green ? mmmmmmmm.
Posted by: drem914 Jan 9 2015, 02:23 PM
How did the paint job turn out? Any pics on the final work? I need to get mine done and am looking for a reasonable shop in OC to get the work done. Preferably, one that has done 914s before.
Posted by: abnrdo Jan 9 2015, 04:08 PM
How did your color match turn out? I have a Palma Green car as well. Would really love to see pics of the new paint!!
Posted by: swood Jan 10 2015, 05:11 PM
They took the hood down to get it color matched. Don't know the outcome yet. I'll find out.
Posted by: injunmort Jan 10 2015, 06:57 PM
the glasurit for my 72 Adriatic blue car was $900.00 for 3/4 of a gallon, no reducer or activator, just the paint
Posted by: SirAndy Jan 10 2015, 07:29 PM
I bought my paint from Porsche. Had it shipped over from Germany.
Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 10 2015, 09:51 PM
I was able to get PPG paint from the formula they had on file, and it matches what I have under the front hood.
Posted by: swood Feb 14 2015, 01:21 PM
PPG color match draw down. Looks pretty good to me 
Posted by: euro911 Feb 14 2015, 01:42 PM
Posted by: abnrdo Feb 14 2015, 01:50 PM
Just awesomeness!! Cant wait to have mine done!
Posted by: swood Apr 6 2015, 10:56 PM
Progress
Posted by: euro911 Apr 7 2015, 12:40 AM
I'm GREEN with envy 
Posted by: rick 918-S Apr 7 2015, 07:08 AM
Nice.
Posted by: 914_teener Apr 7 2015, 01:32 PM
That color is awesome.
Posted by: stugray Apr 7 2015, 04:56 PM
Thread jack (due to the green car slant):
CHEATED!
3M 1080 vinyl wrap color "Matte Apple Green".
It is essentially "kawasaki ninja green" to the eye.
Bright side is that it was $220 worth of vinyl.
If I change my mind on the color or decide to paint, it peels right off.
The black is all paint. and all of the green had fresh primer as a base.
/Thread jack
Posted by: euro911 Apr 8 2015, 12:27 AM
Tell us more about the vinyl wrap. That's cool
Posted by: stugray Apr 8 2015, 09:37 AM
Tell us more about the vinyl wrap. That's cool
If thread jacking is to be avoided, we can move to here:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=252266
But quick answer (copied from other thread):
It is "matte apple green" 3M 1080. I was worried that I could screw it up at first, but that material is nearly indestructible.
I bought extra material assuming I would ruin at least one panel during install but I didnt waste any.
I ordered 30 linear feet (150 sq feet for $320) and ended up using 21 linear feet for all you see done in the pics.
Another 4 linear feet (20 sq ft) would have done the front hood if I hadnt already painted it black.
I expect it to last years when only taken out for race weekends.
It cleans up nicely with just IPA & water.
Posted by: swood Apr 9 2015, 08:59 PM
Yes please start a new thread and scrub this one. It's not that exciting but you know...
Posted by: swood Apr 9 2015, 08:59 PM
Yes please start a new thread and scrub this one. It's not that exciting but you know...
Posted by: euro911 Apr 9 2015, 09:50 PM
NO NO NO!!! - Keep this thread alive, Steve 
The other thread is for the 3M vinyl wrap thing ...
Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 10 2015, 06:40 AM
I agree, leave this thread alone- I want to see the paint work. Vinyl wraps.....that's a different thread.
Posted by: stugray Apr 10 2015, 07:13 AM
Yes please start a new thread and scrub this one. It's not that exciting but you know...
I AM SOOOOO Sorry to have soiled your awe inspiring thread.
I will not dare to share green car bullshit ever again!
Scrub your own thread.
Posted by: swood Apr 10 2015, 07:55 PM
I know. Totally epic
Posted by: euro911 Apr 10 2015, 08:42 PM
Well, you're getting a lot more accomplished than I am. I'm so far from paint that I don't even see the entrance to the tunnel, let alone any light 
Posted by: swood Apr 11 2015, 05:01 PM
Anyone have a few pics of this area either finished or almost finished? Referring to the front side of the sail panel. The painter was wondering how all the vinyl and trim goes back on. Don't have my photos handy 
Posted by: euro911 Apr 11 2015, 07:38 PM
Don't know if this is enough detail 
Posted by: PaulK Apr 11 2015, 08:14 PM
What was the ppg color code, is it a single stage or base and clear? 
Posted by: r_towle Apr 11 2015, 08:18 PM
Anyone have a few pics of this area either finished or almost finished? Referring to the front side of the sail panel. The painter was wondering how all the vinyl and trim goes back on. Don't have my photos handy
It needs to be painted body color all the way around, it shows in spots around the trim.
Posted by: Harpo Apr 12 2015, 09:54 AM
the glasurit for my 72 Adriatic blue car was $900.00 for 3/4 of a gallon, no reducer or activator, just the paint
My car is going in for paint next week and I'm also having it painted in Adriatic blue WOW that is expensive.
David
Posted by: euro911 Apr 25 2015, 09:06 PM
Steve - just ran across another detail shot, although you're probably past this point 
Posted by: swood Jun 10 2015, 04:50 PM
Hey Guys, think I should powder coat the rockers or do a semi gloss black?
Posted by: francar Jun 10 2015, 05:49 PM
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jun 10 2015, 05:59 PM
The body looks beautiful. If they can powder coat them in satin/semi black, why not?
Posted by: swood Jun 10 2015, 08:05 PM
The body looks beautiful. If they can powder coat them in satin/semi black, why not?
Anyone know who T H O M A S used for powder coating? He did all my under carriage parts and they came out killer. That's probably the way to go. Easier to finish the rear deck lid grill too.
Posted by: sb914 Jun 10 2015, 08:11 PM
Cars looking sweet, where you at in lb.? I'm close by in seal.
Posted by: euro911 Jun 10 2015, 09:26 PM
Woo-hoo 
Posted by: swood Jul 3 2015, 03:49 PM
Finally brought her home today. Man the paint is slick on this one...I'm very very stoked! 
Need to find a good local powder coater for the engine grill and rockers.
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Posted by: sb914 Jul 3 2015, 04:17 PM
What a great feeling.Now comes the fun part,putting everything back together.Take your time!
Use glycerin on your rubber it slides in nice.have a friend, help one push,one pull. Good luck, nice color.
Eddy
Posted by: swood Jul 3 2015, 04:54 PM
Well that sounds like a party...
It's just a big adult puzzle. We'll see how it goes.
I grew up in SB. Now in the middle of LBC. See you around.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 3 2015, 04:54 PM
I am green with envy! Looks beautiful. 
Posted by: euro911 Jul 3 2015, 04:58 PM
Wow, looking great Steve 
Lemme know iffin you need any help 
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