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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ new cooperation: Porsche & Smart
Posted by: Gustl Feb 3 2005, 12:34 PM
don't know if these pics were shown before
I've just got'em by mail 
don't know if you know the Smart at all ?
Coupé:
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Posted by: Gustl Feb 3 2005, 12:35 PM
Roadster (watch the driver!):
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Posted by: seanery Feb 3 2005, 12:38 PM
those are hillarious! 
I saw the Smart cars at the Detroit auto show. I think the roadster is pretty cool.
The salesperson told me that when they go on sale the range will be $13-20k.
I think that's a good deal for a unique little vehicle.
Posted by: bd1308 Feb 3 2005, 12:52 PM
a new porsche in my budget range? I'm all over that one....wait is this thing gas or electric?
Posted by: bd1308 Feb 3 2005, 12:55 PM
nevermind....i assumed ti was porsche. I'll never get rid of my 914 now!
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 3 2005, 01:01 PM
Great pictures, I would like to see how Walter Rohl get out of that car???
Posted by: skline Feb 3 2005, 01:04 PM
Now that's Funny!! 
Posted by: Gustl Feb 3 2005, 01:17 PM
| QUOTE (Quilmes @ Feb 3 2005, 08:01 PM) |
| Great pictures, I would like to see how Walter Rohl get out of that car??? |
I guess he'd need a can-opener
Posted by: RON S. Feb 3 2005, 01:45 PM
Now if I could get that Carrera Gt for about the40k as a Lotus Elise,Lotus had better watch out.
Ron
Posted by: davep Feb 3 2005, 02:54 PM
The Smart car has been available in Toronto, Ontario for a while. Have seen one on Hwy 401. That is the main highway between Detroit and Quebec. In Toronto it is up to 10 or 12 lanes wide including the collectors.
Posted by: Gustl Feb 3 2005, 02:55 PM
for those who don't know the original Smart:
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Posted by: Gustl Feb 3 2005, 02:56 PM
and:
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Posted by: jd74914 Feb 3 2005, 06:19 PM
wierd little cars. they would never make it here, only in europe
Posted by: GWN7 Feb 3 2005, 06:34 PM
They are selling here. If I remember the writeup price is about 17K CDN and they had orders for about 60 of them.
First guy that took delivery, delivers news papers to several towns 120 miles 1 way each day. He figured he'd pay for the car in fuel savings from what he was driving before in about 6 months.
The write up on them is http://www.mcuniverse.com/The_Smart_Car_Comes_to_Canada.1325.0.html
Posted by: seanery Feb 3 2005, 06:34 PM
look for them in dealerships as 2006 models, here in the US!
Here's the roadster version:
Posted by: seanery Feb 3 2005, 06:39 PM
http://www.usa.smart.com/brand/index.html
Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 3 2005, 06:42 PM
they must like citroen 2 cv's.... 3 LUG WHEELS! 
Posted by: Carlitos Way Feb 3 2005, 08:41 PM
Renault also comes to mind when thinking about 3 lug wheels... oh wait... you're not old enough to know what a RENAULT is, Grasshopper...
Posted by: bernbomb914 Feb 3 2005, 10:00 PM
saw this in New Zeland last year
Bernie
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Posted by: ThinAir914 Feb 3 2005, 10:44 PM
The original Smart cars are great little things - you see them all over Europe. The are so small that they stack them up about 10 high inside their sign at the dealership. Makes a great advertisement for what they are selling.
They get great mileage and are great for commuting. Parking is a snap. It's too bad that the original Smart isn't coming to the U.S., but the 2-4 and 4-4 both look pretty good.
Posted by: r_towle Feb 3 2005, 10:59 PM
i want the roadster...1750 lbs....whats the HP???
How about a massive 3 cylinder???
Rich
Posted by: ddroger Feb 3 2005, 11:07 PM
The Smart sedans are available in Canada and are supposedly on back-order.
I was told that the roadster might make it into Canada next year. My son had a chance to drive a Smart roadster in the French alps & said it was a terrific car in the twisties. About the size of an Austin-Healy Sprite BTW.
Don
Posted by: bd1308 Feb 3 2005, 11:38 PM
i really hate watching the big lebowski.....it makes me wanna use the F bomb 
dude, who makes this? Porsche or not....shut up donny...your out of your element! 
Posted by: Hawktel Feb 3 2005, 11:41 PM
Okay so your doing 75 down the free way and a triple trailor truck does roaring by, After you get done rolling you can get out and right it.
As a big guy they look not good. Whats the safty on those things? No crumple zones, its not going to be pretty.
Posted by: Gustl Feb 3 2005, 11:49 PM
| QUOTE (bernbomb914 @ Feb 4 2005, 05:00 AM) |
| saw this in New Zeland last year Bernie |
that's a Mercedes A Class - it's much larger than the Smart
Posted by: nickg Feb 4 2005, 12:47 AM
| QUOTE (seanery @ Feb 3 2005, 04:34 PM) |
| look for them in dealerships as 2006 models, here in the US! Here's the roadster version: |
next time i go to mbusa, i will take a few pictures of these, they have like 35 sitting in the hq parking lot in Montvale nj...they are small but cool as heck
Posted by: grantsfo Feb 4 2005, 02:30 AM
I like the Smart fortwo blade
or the biturbo v6?
Posted by: Gustl Feb 4 2005, 03:33 AM
the Smart Crossblade (in Europe they call it this way) is a strictly limited special edition - only 2000 were made, every one with serial number on the dash/center console
the Smart V6 Biturbo was just a prototype/showcar - the engenieers wanted to show what's possible
unfortunately this car isn't for production
Posted by: jniemeier Feb 5 2005, 10:02 PM
Loved the pics of the Smart Porsches!
I rented a Smart in Vienna a couple years ago. It was fun to drive, plenty stable up to the 75mph that I drove it. The trans was this really weird automatic that shifted at all the wrong times. The turbo 600cc was plenty for around town. The best part is that they are so short that you are allowed to nose it in against the curb. They are as short as a regular car is wide! I don't know if they will, but I sure hope they do.
Jim Niemeier
Rochester, NY
'73 914 2.0
Posted by: jniemeier Feb 5 2005, 10:04 PM
Make it in the States that is. Uff.
Jim N.
Posted by: reverie Feb 5 2005, 10:17 PM
If the Smart Car had a front door like the BMW Isetta 300,
it would be like a modern Isetta! Kids would love it. 
Posted by: jimtab Feb 5 2005, 10:59 PM
We saw several of them and the little 1/2 fiats when we were in Italy. I think I've seen a couple in San Francisco, or it could be something similar, they were REALLY little tho...good for cities like SF, make more sense than the legions of SUVs, especially the Hummer 2, what a fucking joke as a grocery getter....
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 7 2005, 02:48 PM
Here is a photo of me next to a smart to give you an idea how big this monster car is.
I am 6'2" this car must be like 7'.
A 914 is somewhere around 13'.
I would hate to pull up to a monster truck event fearing they might just put me on their shoulders and throw me into the mud pit, only to later be stuck on the bottom of a monster truck wheel.
Quilmes
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Posted by: Gustl Feb 7 2005, 03:38 PM
| QUOTE (Quilmes @ Feb 7 2005, 09:48 PM) |
| Here is a photo of me next to a smart to give you an idea how big this monster car is. |
the car behind the Smart seems to be more interesting
BMW Z1
Posted by: Andyrew Feb 7 2005, 05:21 PM
I would be all over that tt v6 concept car....
Ohh ya
Posted by: Birgit Feb 7 2005, 09:14 PM
I got to play with a roadster in the Swiss Alps and Germany last summer. It's cute but has NO trunk space (a case of CDs and a pair of tennis shoes is all that fits) and it shifts at the most ODD times...
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Posted by: Birgit Feb 7 2005, 09:15 PM
Small enough to take on a picnick for one. ha ha
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Posted by: Birgit Feb 7 2005, 09:16 PM
Tha's about all it will do...
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Posted by: jimtab Feb 7 2005, 09:21 PM
| QUOTE (Birgit @ Feb 7 2005, 07:16 PM) |
| Tha's about all it will do... |
So, Birgit, for those of us that are metrically challenged, how fast is 180kph in mph? About, 110?
Posted by: Rocky Feb 7 2005, 09:21 PM
Ill take 2. Especially with the sunroof option! 
Tim
Posted by: jimtab Feb 7 2005, 09:26 PM
| QUOTE (Rocky @ Feb 7 2005, 07:21 PM) |
| Ill take 2. Especially with the sunroof option! Tim |
Hey, fyi, Birgit is not only a looker, she can drive, beats most of the boys....especially me.
Posted by: Rocky Feb 7 2005, 09:30 PM
Schweet! 
Posted by: bondo Feb 7 2005, 09:34 PM
| QUOTE (jimtab @ Feb 7 2005, 08:21 PM) | ||
So, Birgit, for those of us that are metrically challenged, how fast is 180kph in mph? About, 110? |
111.85 mph
Posted by: Birgit Feb 7 2005, 09:35 PM
I was able to take it to about 120mph.
BTW the sunroof has hard side pieces that can be removed so essentially they tried to make a targa/convertible/sunroof-style. The car only had about 600 miles on it when I picked it up but the convertible top was already broken...The whole thing has a kind of plastic-toy feel to it.
Posted by: soloracer Feb 8 2005, 10:37 AM
Actually, Porsche has had a SMART style car for several years now. I don't see what all the fuss is about with the new cars. The old one was faster and much better looking in my humble opinion 
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Posted by: soloracer Feb 8 2005, 10:47 AM
Now if only I could get a co-driver as good lookin' as Birgit 
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