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Posted by: Spoke Jan 15 2015, 10:25 PM

This is a group buy for front turnsignal bucket LED boards, rear tail/brake light LED boards, and rear turnsignal LED boards.

Please respond to this thread if you are interested. Purchase requests will be handled in order as they are recieved in this thread.

The only thing group buy of these boards are the bare PCBs. The boards are hand assembled one by one, tested and delivered as they are finished. I will not request payment until your PCBs are to be assembled. Time between payment and shipping should be about 2 weeks. This group buy will last several months so please be patient.

I will PM you when I am prepared to assemble your boards. If I PM you and your plans have changed, please let me know.

Front LED and rear LED boards will be shipped separately. Shipping for CONUS for front or rear LED boards is $10.

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Now is a good time to seal up the front and rear buckets to protect your LED board investments.

I am very pleased to be able to offer bundle pricing for front and rear bucket and rear lens seals by 914Rubber for anyone purchasing front or rear LED boards.

Prices:
Front bucket seals: $12.50 savings of 24% over retail
Rear housing seals: $16.00 savings of 33% over retail
Rear lens beads: $5.00 savings of $28% over retail

http://shop.914rubber.com/New-OEM-style-front-turn-signal-seals-set-of-2-914FTS2N.htm

http://shop.914rubber.com/914-Tail-light-gasket-set-914TLGS.htm

http://shop.914rubber.com/914-rear-tail-light-lens-seal-914TLLS.htm

Posted by: Spoke Jan 15 2015, 10:28 PM

The rear LED board is available in 3 different configurations:

1) Brake Light: RED LEDs: Price: $90/pair
2) Turnsignal: RED LEDs: Price: $90/pair
3) Turnsignal: AMBER LEDs: Price: $90/pair

Shipping:
CONUS: $10
Outside CONUS: Determined at purchase.

CONUS payment examples:
Brake LED only: $90 + $10 = $100
Brake LED and RED/AMBER Turnsignal LED: $180 + $10 = $190

Each pair includes:
o 2 PCBs
o Brake/Taillights: 56 RED LEDs
o Turnsignals:56 AMBER (Euro) or RED (US) LEDs - Rearward facing; 8 side-facing LEDs to replace the small side running light. Side LEDs are AMBER (Euro) or RED (US) to match taillight lens.

Electrical Connection:
o Brake: Pigtail with 1157 base to plug directly into existing bulb socket.
o Turnsignal: Pigtail with 1156 base (turnsignal) and 5007 base (small side light)

6 clips for each pair to mount the boards to existing taillight housing for plug-n-play installation.

6 screws per PCB pair for clips + 1 extra

1 piggyback spade connector per turnsignal PCB pair in case existing turnsignal flasher is replaced by EP36 LED flasher from your FLAPS.

1 year guarantee

Electrical Characteristics:
Brake/Turnsignal: 0.35A @ 14V (4.9 Watt) each PCB
Taillight: 0.06A @ 14V (0.8 Watt) each PCB

Example boards shown with early prototype brass clips. Clips are plastic for these boards.


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Posted by: Spoke Jan 15 2015, 10:28 PM

The front bucket LED board is available in 3 different configurations:

1) US Version: All AMBER LEDs: $120/pair
2) Euro Version - No Blanking: WHITE LEDs in clear of lens; Rest AMBER LEDs: Price: $130/pair
3) Euro Version - w/Blanking: WHITE LEDs in clear of lens; Rest AMBER LEDs: Price: $140/pair

Shipping:
CONUS: $10
Outside CONUS: Determined at purchase.

CONUS payment examples:
US Version: $120 + $10 = $130
Euro Version - No Blanking: $130 + $10 = $140
Euro Version - w/Blanking: $140 + $10 = $150

Each pair includes:
o 2 PCBs
o US Version: 69 AMBER LEDs.
o Euro Versions: 21 WHITE LEDS (Running lights) and 48 AMBER LEDs (Turnsignal).

Euro Version with optional blanking will turn off WHITE LEDs when turnsignal is engaged.

Pigtail with 1157 base to plug directly into existing bulb socket.

4 clips for each pair to mount the boards to existing front bucket housing for plug-n-play installation.

4 screws for clips + 1 extra

1 piggyback spade connector if existing turnsignal flasher is replaced by EP36 LED flasher from your FLAPS.

1 year guarantee

Electrical Characteristics US version:
Turnsignal: 0.39A @ 14V (5 Watt) each PCB
Running light: 0.07A @ 14V (1 Watt) each PCB

Example front LED board shown with only tools needed: large Philips screwdriver for lens screws and smaller Philips screwdriver for PCB mounting screw.

Posted by: Spoke Jan 15 2015, 10:44 PM

Installation of the rear LED boards.

For the brake/tailight PCB, 2 long straight clips go toward the inside of the car, one short clip on the outside of the car. Screw in screws so the clips are loose.





After removing the bulb and securing the LED bulb base, gently press in the board evenly side to side.



Once the board is seated, gently tighten screws until tight. Try not to overtighten.



For the turnsignal PCBs, screw in the 2 long clips with a bend on the side of the board with 2 holes. The side with one hole uses the largest clip mounted on the bottom of the board as shown. You can gently tighten the clips before mounting.





After removing the bulb and securing the LED bulb base, gently press in the board evenly side to side.



The clearance of the lens and the clips between the brake and turnsignal is very tight. Make sure the lens does not get caught on the clips. It should fit right between the clips.

Posted by: Spoke Jan 15 2015, 11:00 PM

Installation of the front turnsignal bucket LED boards.

There are 2 clips for each board. The small one goes in front the the long one on the rear.



Screw in the rear clip.



The small front clip mounts on the top of the board. These will be screwed in when I build the board. The bottom of the board will contact the bucket base to keep the board straight.



Here's the board ready for installation with the bulb base connected.



When installing the board, make sure the pigtail does not interfere with the rear clip.



Gently slide the board in. There are slots on either side of the board to clear the guides on the sides of the bucket.



Ready for the lens. The lens will hold the board in place. If you need to reposition the board, do not grab the LEDs as they will move. Use a paper clip or similar wire to pull the board out.

Posted by: siverson Jan 16 2015, 12:11 AM

I'll take a full set!

front: Brake Light: RED LEDs + Turnsignal: AMBER LEDs
rear: Euro Version - w/Blanking

Thanks!

-Steve

Posted by: Firstcar Jan 16 2015, 02:05 AM

Jerry,
I'll take a set of the front bucket LED board Euro Version - w/Blanking and a piggyback spade connector for the new relay! Thanks
-Scott

Posted by: A&P Mech Jan 16 2015, 06:59 AM

I am in for a full set. I would like the US version for the front buckets as well as the rear brake light and turn signals.

Thanks,
Ray

Posted by: griffindoug Jan 16 2015, 07:03 AM

Spoke,

I would like a set of the rear Red Brake, and amber turns with shipping for 190.00

Thanks
Doug

Posted by: peteyd Jan 16 2015, 07:12 AM

Please put me down for a front bucket LED board in the US Version

Thank you,

Pete

Posted by: chads74 Jan 16 2015, 07:16 AM

I am in for a front set option 3) Euro Version - w/Blanking: WHITE LEDs in clear of lens; Rest AMBER LEDs:

I remember seeing something about needing something additional to make the blinkers work if you have front and rear LEDs installed. Am I remembering correctly?

Posted by: Steve Snyder Jan 16 2015, 07:21 AM

I would like a set of rear brake boards (just the brakes: $90 + shipping) and a set of front Euro turn signal boards with no blanking ($130 + shipping).
I do not need any seals, but thank you for making that option available.

Posted by: Zimms Jan 16 2015, 07:47 AM

I am in for front turn signals, euro, non blanking

Posted by: RobW Jan 16 2015, 08:24 AM

Cool. Very Cool.

Posted by: Steve Jan 16 2015, 09:06 AM

I'm in for the following:
Front:
Euro Version - w/Blanking: $140 + $10 = $150

Posted by: R_u_dd Jan 16 2015, 09:25 AM

I am interested in the Euro Front amber/white, so that I may use the front light as a white running light and turn signal. I have no side turn signals up front, so I need the blinking capability. Is that what blanking is? Please explain. So, yes put me down for a front end Euro configuration. Thanks

Posted by: GermermanCarGuy Jan 16 2015, 10:09 AM

Still in for:
Rear Brakes Lights (pr)
Rear Amber Turn Signals (pr)
and Front Euro w/blanking (pr)


Very excited.


Please bundle with complete seal package (f/r) as advertised in your Posted Feb 5 2015, 08:59 PM post.


Still excited.

Posted by: rnellums Jan 16 2015, 10:17 AM

Sign me up for a pair of the us front turn signals! I love my rears!

-Ross

Posted by: StratPlayer Jan 16 2015, 10:21 AM

I'm in for a set. Front Euro's....

Posted by: 75-914 Jan 16 2015, 01:54 PM

Count me in for front/ rear euro type

Posted by: Jetsetsurfshop Jan 16 2015, 03:23 PM

Is there any photos or a video with these lights in action?

Posted by: cconcepcion Jan 16 2015, 03:33 PM

1 front set-euro-blanking please..

Posted by: dr.tim Jan 16 2015, 03:59 PM

Front, Option 3, please.

Euro Version - w/Blanking: $140 + $10 = $150

Posted by: Rleog Jan 16 2015, 06:21 PM

I'll take a set of front LED boards, Euro version with blanking.

Thanks

Posted by: MATTYLITE Jan 16 2015, 08:17 PM

I'd like to purchase:

The Rear LED board,

- Brake Light: RED LEDs: Price: $90/pair
- Turnsignal: AMBER LEDs: Price: $90/pair

+ Shipping, etc.

Thanks!
Matt

Posted by: zambezi Jan 16 2015, 10:15 PM

I am in for a front set in the US configuration. I already have the rears and love them.
Jim

Posted by: Spoke Jan 16 2015, 11:31 PM

Some comparisons of the rear LEDs with standard bulbs in daylight at about 25 feet away. Turnsignals:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7A5dOW1Fjs


Brakes in daylight. Brake lights were connected to flasher wire since my wife said sitting in the car hitting the brakes while I shoot the video was "stupid".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UFYirXKzI4


Turnsignals and Brakes in the dark:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBjzT9Fye3o

Posted by: Spoke Jan 16 2015, 11:41 PM

Some videos of the front LEDs. This is the Euro version.

First the turnsignals; then just the running light. For the turnsignal, the US lens is on. For the running light, the lens is removed.

I wanted to observe the angle of incidence on the LEDs. These LEDs have 15 degree 1/2 power angle. So for the turnsignals and running lights, I varied the angle of viewing from about +/- 45 degrees from the front of the car. I was about 30 feet away.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEIcKTeHoa0


Now the running light with the US lens off.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xe09_u_dSg

Posted by: Spoke Jan 16 2015, 11:44 PM

Here's one of the front LEDs with running light blanking. The running lights cut out immediately when the turnsignals light and stay off about 1 second after the turnsignals turn off.

Here's a close up of the blanking circuitry.

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In this video, I'm using the EP36 flasher from AutoZone. The LED board is the only load on the flasher and it flashes at the expected rate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRBFT2LwVhc

Posted by: Spoke Jan 16 2015, 11:52 PM

Here's a clip of the non-blanking front turnsignal. The clip also compares the LED turnsignal on the passenger side to the standard bulb on the driver side.

Light intensity measurements show the US LED front PCB turnsignals to be about 6x as bright as the existing bulb. The Euro version (48 LED vs 69 LED in US version) should be about 4x as bright as the existing bulb.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y2HTTtBjG8

Posted by: echocanyons Jan 17 2015, 02:20 PM

I would like a pair of the euro versions with blanking.

Thank you!

Posted by: aharder Jan 17 2015, 03:14 PM

I'm in for a set of Front, US Amber

Posted by: bobo914 Jan 17 2015, 03:21 PM

Spoke, I have clear front lenses. What style would you recommend?

Posted by: mepstein Jan 17 2015, 03:22 PM

I'll take an amber front and red brake and turn signal rear. Thanks, mark

Posted by: Outbackskip Jan 18 2015, 03:42 AM

Hi there,

First of all, compliments on your design of the LED boards, just beautifull

Would it be possible to get a complete set sent to The Netherlands, Europe?

If yes, I'm in for: Front Euro w/blanking $140 + ?, and Rear Brake RED and Turn Amber $180 + ?

I don't know what the P&P will be but I reacon you're going to let me know about that.

Hope we can work things out, I'll be waiting patiently,

Thank you,
Skip

Posted by: Spoke Jan 18 2015, 10:35 AM

QUOTE(bobo914 @ Jan 17 2015, 04:21 PM)

Posted by: Spoke Jan 18 2015, 10:39 AM

QUOTE(Outbackskip @ Jan 18 2015, 04:42 AM)

Hi there,

First of all, compliments on your design of the LED boards, just beautifull

Would it be possible to get a complete set sent to The Netherlands, Europe?

If yes, I'm in for: Front Euro w/blanking $140 + ?, and Rear Brake RED and Turn Amber $180 + ?

I don't know what the P&P will be but I reacon you're going to let me know about that.

Hope we can work things out, I'll be waiting patiently,

Thank you,
Skip

Posted by: clapeza Jan 18 2015, 11:51 AM

I'm in for one set of front turn signals, option 2) Euro Version - No Blanking.

Thanks,

Chester

Posted by: kid914 Jan 18 2015, 12:41 PM

QUOTE(griffindoug @ Jan 16 2015, 08:03 AM)

Posted by: ConeDodger Jan 18 2015, 01:39 PM

In.

Euro front and rear.

Posted by: Outbackskip Jan 18 2015, 03:18 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Jan 18 2015, 08:39 AM)

QUOTE(Outbackskip @ Jan 18 2015, 04:42 AM)

Hi there,

First of all, compliments on your design of the LED boards, just beautifull

Would it be possible to get a complete set sent to The Netherlands, Europe?

If yes, I'm in for: Front Euro w/blanking $140 + ?, and Rear Brake RED and Turn Amber $180 + ?

I don't know what the P&P will be but I reacon you're going to let me know about that.

Hope we can work things out, I'll be waiting patiently,

Thank you,
Skip

Shipping to Europe is not an issue. I sent some LEDs to Germany last year through US postal service. It was less expensive than UPS/Fedex but tracking sucked. I would recommend one of the main carriers. If you know a good way to ship, please let me know.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 18 2015, 03:52 PM

QUOTE(Outbackskip @ Jan 18 2015, 04:18 PM)

QUOTE(Spoke @ Jan 18 2015, 08:39 AM)

QUOTE(Outbackskip @ Jan 18 2015, 04:42 AM)

Hi there,

First of all, compliments on your design of the LED boards, just beautifull

Would it be possible to get a complete set sent to The Netherlands, Europe?

If yes, I'm in for: Front Euro w/blanking $140 + ?, and Rear Brake RED and Turn Amber $180 + ?

I don't know what the P&P will be but I reacon you're going to let me know about that.

Hope we can work things out, I'll be waiting patiently,

Thank you,
Skip

Shipping to Europe is not an issue. I sent some LEDs to Germany last year through US postal service. It was less expensive than UPS/Fedex but tracking sucked. I would recommend one of the main carriers. If you know a good way to ship, please let me know.

I would rather go for a good, reliable carrier and having the products here safe & sound than not knowing if they would ever arrive instead of saving a buck or two.
Just let me know what the total costs will be.

Thanks, Skip

Posted by: IanS Jan 18 2015, 10:02 PM

Put me down for front US signals please!
already have the rears

Posted by: jfort Jan 19 2015, 09:19 AM

I am in for a full set. I would like the US version for the front buckets as well as the rear brake light and turn signals

Jeff Fort

Posted by: monkeyboy Jan 19 2015, 11:38 AM

I will take a set of the US Fronts.

I already have your taillight sets and they are awesome!

Posted by: abnrdo Jan 20 2015, 09:10 AM

Spoke,

I have been waiting to post this for awhile.

I'm in for: Front Euro w/blanking $140; Rear Brake RED and Turn Amber $180!

Cant wait to add these to my project.

Thanks,

Jim

Posted by: Spoke Jan 28 2015, 10:40 PM

Making some progress on the front lights. Going slower than I hoped. These more complicated to make than the rears because of the blanking circuit and that the LEDs must be soldered with the body of the LED 115mils off the board so they can be pointed forward when mounted on the vehicle.


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Posted by: Briby37 Jan 29 2015, 09:57 AM

I'm down for a full set, please. US for the front buckets and the rear brake light and turn signals. These are looking great!

Posted by: cn2800 Jan 29 2015, 10:24 AM

If you're still taking orders, I'd like to request front turn signals, rear turn signals, and brake lights, all US spec. Thanks!

Posted by: Spoke Jan 31 2015, 09:26 AM

QUOTE(cn2800 @ Jan 29 2015, 11:24 AM)

Posted by: Spoke Jan 31 2015, 10:10 AM

A couple of folks have had issues installing the bulb bases into the existing sockets. Much of the difficulty has to do with the existing socket which is over 40 years old and may likely have suffered from aging and moisture. This makes the bulbs hard to install/remove and can affect the electrical connection to the bulb.

This is a good time to do some preventive maintenance on the socket to improve electrical connectivity and ease installation of the LED bulb bases or even the standard bulbs.

Here's an example of a bulb with severe oxidation and crud that came off of my 930. This bulb was so hard to remove that I thought the bulb was going to break in my hand as I removed it. Likewise the socket looked in the same condition. I connected an LED board for the 911 in its place and it didn't light up at all. I had to clean the socket with a wire wheel on my Dremel before the LEDs would light up.



After cleaning the socket with a wire wheel, or scraping the crud with a small screwdriver, dielectric grease like this one are available at your FLAPS for less than $2 goes a long way to improving electrical contact and easing installation of bulbs/LEDs.

Posted by: Spoke Feb 4 2015, 12:06 PM

I've been thinking of ways to provide a handle to help assist the installation of the bulb bases. Thought about a piece of metal, wood, or plastic but nothing seemed to fit the bill.

Then I tried a piece of circuit board. Seems like it would give a good grip for installation and would not short out the wires if they touched. What I did was chop up some old boards we had lying around work. I will try this on these boards.

Would it take away from the product if I used old circuit boards for the handles? I could state that we're using recycled materials to be more ecologically friendly. Your feedback is welcome.


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Posted by: clapeza Feb 4 2015, 12:58 PM

That'd be great! I buggered up one of my tail light bulb bases trying to get a good grip so it would turn and engage in the socket. This "green solution" is a great idea!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 4 2015, 01:06 PM

Great idea and eco-friendly too. The world and the 914 wins!

Posted by: Spoke Feb 5 2015, 09:59 PM

Now is a good time to seal up the front and rear buckets to protect your LED board investments.

I am very pleased to be able to offer bundle pricing for front and rear bucket and rear lens seals by 914Rubber for anyone purchasing front or rear LED boards.

Prices:
Front bucket seals: $12.50 savings of 24% over retail
Rear housing seals: $16.00 savings of 33% over retail
Rear lens beads: $5.00 savings of $28% over retail

http://shop.914rubber.com/New-OEM-style-front-turn-signal-seals-set-of-2-914FTS2N.htm

http://shop.914rubber.com/914-Tail-light-gasket-set-914TLGS.htm

http://shop.914rubber.com/914-rear-tail-light-lens-seal-914TLLS.htm

Posted by: cn2800 Feb 6 2015, 12:10 AM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Feb 5 2015, 10:59 PM)

Posted by: kid914 Feb 6 2015, 09:04 AM

Is this another thread? I didn't see my post.

In for a set of front ambers...and rear reds.
Thanks

Posted by: Spoke Feb 9 2015, 07:43 PM

QUOTE(kid914 @ Feb 6 2015, 10:04 AM)

Is this another thread? I didn't see my post.

In for a set of front ambers...and rear reds.
Thanks

Posted by: euro911 Feb 13 2015, 02:56 AM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Feb 4 2015, 10:06 AM)

Posted by: GermermanCarGuy Feb 13 2015, 09:37 AM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Feb 5 2015, 08:59 PM)

Posted by: morgan_harwell Feb 13 2015, 09:49 AM

Howdy,

I would like to place my order in the queue.

Question about the Front Euro LEDs.
Are the Amber LEDs lit (on) when the TurnSignal is not engaged?

Front:
#2, Euro non-blanking LED

Rear:
#1, Red Brake LED
#3, Amber TurnSignal LED

Seals:
Front bucket seals: $12.50
Rear housing seals: $16.00
Rear lens beads: $5.00

Thanks,
--Moe--

Posted by: Spoke Feb 13 2015, 04:40 PM

QUOTE(euro911 @ Feb 13 2015, 03:56 AM)

Posted by: Spoke Feb 13 2015, 05:41 PM

We had a bit of a hangup on the first rear LED boards. The assembly was done incorrectly on the first 18 boards. The boards cannot be reworked. Just thrown in the garbage. They are trashed.

So there will be a delay on the rear boards until we make more. I will PM those for whom these boards were being built.

The fronts are coming along fine. Will be shipping out the first sets of fronts this week.

Posted by: cary Feb 14 2015, 12:18 AM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Feb 13 2015, 02:40 PM)

QUOTE(euro911 @ Feb 13 2015, 03:56 AM)

Are you going to glue the boards into the bulb bases?

Yes. I fill the bases with epoxy then install the handle. The epoxy locks the wires in place so they won't work loose from the base. The handles are in rock solid. So installation can be done with a pair of pliers or your fingers. Should make installation very easy.

Posted by: Spoke Feb 14 2015, 12:39 AM

QUOTE(cary @ Feb 14 2015, 01:18 AM)

QUOTE(Spoke @ Feb 13 2015, 02:40 PM)

QUOTE(euro911 @ Feb 13 2015, 03:56 AM)

Are you going to glue the boards into the bulb bases?

Yes. I fill the bases with epoxy then install the handle. The epoxy locks the wires in place so they won't work loose from the base. The handles are in rock solid. So installation can be done with a pair of pliers or your fingers. Should make installation very easy.

That will work ..................
It doesn't need to be very tall. Just enough to grab with fingers or pliers.

Posted by: cary Feb 23 2015, 10:10 PM

My new front LED boards have arrived. A beautiful thing ...............
They slipped right in. I already had new 914 Rubber seals. They had compressed into their new shape. So it was a little tight.

Posted by: cary Feb 23 2015, 10:15 PM

Lights, camera and action.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce8c-LQVxo0

Posted by: Spoke Feb 23 2015, 10:48 PM

Looks good Cary. Are you using the stock 914 flasher or EP36 or other?

A couple of notes:

1) Great video. So glad to see the LEDs working with your flasher. Keep in mind that the LEDs are pointed directly towards the front and rear of the vehicle to maximizes the intensity of the LEDs towards the other vehicles on the road.

2) The early stock 914 flasher (with L & R dash indicators) seems to work fine if the dash indicators are rewired so the common wire normally from the K lug on the flasher are connected to ground. This little bit of resistive load seems to cause the flasher to flash normally with LEDs front and rear. My 914 is wired this way and the flasher will flash normally even with both front and rear lights removed. Another 914World member with LEDs front and rear got his early flasher to work only after rewiring the dash indicators.

3) I'm adding a 1k ohm resistor across the turnsignal wires on the front and rear boards to add at least a little bit of resistive signature to help flashers see the LED loads. Not sure how much this helps but it's easy to do.

4) Some folks had observed the tight intensity profile of the LEDs. We had been using 15 degree LEDs. For the amber turnsignals, we're now using 30 degree LEDs. The head-on intensity is less but the light pattern is wider. The red LEDs are only available in quantity in the 15 degree packages so we'll continue with the 15 degree red LEDs.

Posted by: Spoke Feb 23 2015, 10:55 PM

QUOTE(morgan_harwell @ Feb 13 2015, 10:49 AM)

Posted by: cary Feb 24 2015, 07:31 AM

I have both the EP36 flasher and have wired both the flasher lamps to the common.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 24 2015, 08:05 AM

Spoke- I like the idea of having the lights gently lit with the running lights - especially in the rear where it gives a wider profile. Great idea.

Posted by: GermermanCarGuy Feb 24 2015, 08:46 AM

[QUOTE] Spoke- I like the idea of having the lights gently lit with the running lights - especially in the rear where it gives a wider profile. Great idea. [QUOTE]

Concur. It's all about visibility.

Posted by: Spoke Feb 25 2015, 06:41 AM

QUOTE(GermermanCarGuy @ Feb 24 2015, 09:46 AM)

Posted by: GermermanCarGuy Feb 25 2015, 08:55 AM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Feb 25 2015, 05:41 AM)

QUOTE(GermermanCarGuy @ Feb 24 2015, 09:46 AM)

Spoke- I like the idea of having the lights gently lit with the running lights - especially in the rear where it gives a wider profile. Great idea.

Concur. It's all about visibility.

Rob,

I can make this change to your boards. Let me know.

As soon as someone requests this function (amber lights on gently with white running lights on) I will take a video of it in action.

Posted by: morgan_harwell Feb 25 2015, 10:52 AM

>On the Euro versions with the white LEDS, the amber LEDs are currently not gently lit with the running lights. I've opted not to do this for fear the flasher would not work since the flasher would see no load below about 7V and may not flash. I'd be willing to try it for you if you're willing to test it out.

>As soon as someone requests this function (amber lights on gently with white running lights on) I will take a video of it in action.

If you can do this easily, I am interested, even if it costs me an extra $10.

Thanks,
--Moe--

Posted by: type47fan Feb 25 2015, 10:29 PM

Hi Mr. Wizard,

Front pair only, Option 3,

Euro Version-w/Blanking:

$140.00 front euro kit
$ 12.50 (front bucket seals)
$ 16.00 (rear housing seals)
$ 5.00 (rear lens beads)
$ 10.00 shipping

$183.50 Total

Thanks!

Watch this space . . . .

Posted by: abnrdo Feb 27 2015, 05:10 PM

Spoke, cant wait to get mine! No rush, just want you to know that I am really looking forward to your product!

Posted by: 914four Mar 1 2015, 08:36 AM

I am interested in a full set of the US version (front and back). I'm unclear if you are able to provide the running lights gently on or not but would like this option if it is available.

Kelvin

Posted by: Steve Snyder Mar 5 2015, 01:03 PM

Got my fronts and rear brakes installed this morning. What a difference! Absolutely a must for safety.

Posted by: racerbvd Mar 5 2015, 10:16 PM

Are you open to any trades for a few complete sets??

Posted by: Spoke Mar 6 2015, 06:35 PM

QUOTE(racerbvd @ Mar 5 2015, 11:16 PM)

Posted by: eric9144 Mar 13 2015, 02:59 PM

Purists and CW's rejoice, this is a 100% non-intrusive upgrade that every owner should consider if funds are available. Totally plug and play...

Damn I am happy with the results!! THANK YOU JERRY!

Posted by: Spoke Apr 4 2015, 02:04 PM

I want to thank all those who purchased LED lights. We're having fun making these and I hope they met and exceeded your expectations. More than that I hope they keep you safe while tooling around in your 914.

This is the last call for LEDs if interested. We have a few board sets in progress and a couple of sets left over. I'll be in Hershey with a couple of sets as well as a couple of sets of 911 brake LEDs. The remainder not sold will probably end up on ebay.


Thanks again!


We're going to be doing some 911 brake and (I hope) rear turnsignal LEDs next. I made a video of how to replace the 911 brake lights. Took just about 3 minutes for one side including removing and replacing the lens. These are non-invasive and plug-n-play like the 914 LEDs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tmt1igbiWM


Check out how wild these 911 rear turnsignal boards are. There's LEDs pointing in all directions. One thing I'm changing about the 911 rear turnsignal is the LEDs will be on gently with the running lights. This will give the 911 a much larger visual footprint at night. Now only the little brake lights are on gently. I just ordered a couple of these boards to try them out on my car.

Posted by: Big Len Apr 4 2015, 03:16 PM

I would like to see them in action at Hershey.

Posted by: Gary Apr 4 2015, 06:18 PM

OK, I'm in for a set F/R:

US Amber fronts
Red/Red Tail/Brake on rears

Also up for seals F/R.

Would like "gently lit" running lights out back. Didn't catch in the thread if available with the amber fronts, but up for that if so.

Thanks!

Posted by: abes914 Apr 4 2015, 07:10 PM

i am in for a set of regular rear lights (brakes and parking lights only) please. i'll send paypal when i get home
thanks

Posted by: SKL1 Apr 4 2015, 09:26 PM

Any rear sets left? Would be interested in 2 sets, one for a '71 and another for a '73... TIA.

Posted by: JmuRiz Apr 5 2015, 01:50 PM

I never noticed the "last call" listed in the subtitle.

Can I still get in?
Fell off my radar with my car apart for the last 2 years.

-Front euro with running light blanking
-Rear USA lenses

Posted by: Spoke Apr 5 2015, 06:13 PM

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Apr 5 2015, 03:50 PM)

Posted by: Spoke Apr 5 2015, 06:15 PM

QUOTE(Big Len @ Apr 4 2015, 05:16 PM)

Posted by: mepstein Apr 5 2015, 06:20 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Apr 5 2015, 08:15 PM)

QUOTE(Big Len @ Apr 4 2015, 05:16 PM)

I would like to see them in action at Hershey.

If I can get some electricity, I'll be able to light up the boards at the booth. There should be a couple of guys with their 914's with front and rear LED boards there.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 6 2015, 07:21 PM

OK, I placed my order for the euro fronts with the blanking option. I ordered the euro rear with the gentle on feature for additional lighting in the rear.

Excited to have the LED lighting add a whole new level of safety on my 44 year old car.

Posted by: kid914 Apr 6 2015, 07:42 PM

interested in front turn signal us version. now that I have my rear break ones...

Posted by: Spoke Apr 6 2015, 09:26 PM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Apr 6 2015, 09:21 PM)

OK, I placed my order for the euro fronts with the blanking option. I ordered the euro rear with the gentle on feature for additional lighting in the rear.

Excited to have the LED lighting add a whole new level of safety on my 44 year old car.

Posted by: moldygreg Apr 6 2015, 09:46 PM

I'd like to buy a complete rear US set with seals if available still.

Thanks
Greg

Posted by: Shadowfax Apr 7 2015, 09:57 AM

QUOTE(moldygreg @ Apr 6 2015, 10:46 PM)

Posted by: eric9144 Apr 7 2015, 09:58 AM

If you're on the fence about this DO IT!

Our cars are small and frequently "unseen" by most of the checked out drivers on the road. The LED upgrades that Jerry makes make a HUGE difference in the visibility of the cars, so bright in fact, they can be seen during daylight.

Not a huge cost if it means people 'see' your car rather than hit it!

Posted by: colingreene Apr 7 2015, 11:05 AM

id like some of these, what do you have left?

Posted by: euro911 Apr 7 2015, 01:10 PM

QUOTE(eric9144 @ Apr 7 2015, 08:58 AM)

Posted by: Nozzle Apr 7 2015, 01:57 PM

Please put me down for a complete US set for front and rear with seals if they are still available.

Posted by: FourBlades Apr 7 2015, 03:28 PM

I would like a complete us set front and rear as well!

Thanks for making these!

You have probably saved many 914 s from wrecks.

John

Posted by: zymurgist Apr 7 2015, 04:39 PM

I would like to get in on this, too.

1 Euro version with blanking

Front bucket seals: 1 set
Rear housing seals: 1 set
Rear lens beads: 1 set

Posted by: Chris H. Apr 7 2015, 05:45 PM

Sent you a PM...

Hoping to get a set of front US turn signals.

Posted by: whatabout1 Apr 16 2015, 02:02 PM

PM sent

front euro w/ blanking
rear us (red/red)

Posted by: SKL1 May 19 2015, 06:19 PM

Finally got around to installing the rear red/yellow bulbs on my '71- look great! And bright!

Hope not too late to get rear red/red for my '73.

BTW, do you have front ones for euro lenses with red over white (clear?)

Posted by: SKL1 May 19 2015, 06:25 PM

Hope I can still get front euro for '73 and front amber (for Italian clear front lens) on '71...

Posted by: GermermanCarGuy May 19 2015, 07:46 PM

QUOTE(GermermanCarGuy @ Jan 16 2015, 10:09 AM)

Still in for:
Rear Brakes Lights (pr)
Rear Amber Turn Signals (pr)
and Front Euro w/blanking (pr)


Very excited.


Please bundle with complete seal package (f/r) as advertised in your Posted Feb 5 2015, 08:59 PM post.


Still excited.

Posted by: BillC May 20 2015, 08:33 AM

I just found this thread, and think these are a wonderful idea.

If it's not too late, I'd like to get a full set of front & rear LEDs for my '73, including seals. Thanks!

Posted by: eric9144 May 20 2015, 09:51 AM

Its funny, was out driving my car last weekend and at a stop, glanced up at my rear view mirror and could totally see both brake lights glaring back at me from the huge chrome bumper of the SUV behind me at the light...8-10' away, in broad daylight.

Hands down one of the best upgrades you can do to increase the visibility of your car to others!

Posted by: Spoke May 20 2015, 08:12 PM

QUOTE(GermermanCarGuy @ May 19 2015, 09:46 PM)

Spock,

Still interested on getting in on the 914 seals deal (if still open). Fronts and rears. We had an email jumble and our order got messed up. PM me for details.

Either way, I'm still in. Oh, and thanks for the LED lights.

Rob

Posted by: Spoke May 20 2015, 08:13 PM

QUOTE(BillC @ May 20 2015, 10:33 AM)

Posted by: SKL1 May 21 2015, 06:56 PM

We need to talk Spoke into making more sets!!

I need another set of rears and think many who hadn't seen this thread for a while ( it was on page 13-14 or so) would pony up as well...

Hint, hint... Jerry...

Posted by: no1uno May 21 2015, 07:43 PM

I would be in for a full set if another production run starts

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 22 2015, 07:09 AM

Well I need a set of the rear red turn signal LED's. I had ordered a set of the Euro rears and then decided to go with USA rear lenses. So if someone needs a set of Euro rears, and can't get them from Spoke, mine will be available once/if I get the reds.

Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 May 22 2015, 11:55 AM

when you say "last call", does that mean you are no longer going to make or just not going to have in stock and will have to make when ordered?

Posted by: Spoke May 22 2015, 12:54 PM

QUOTE(montoya 73 2.0 @ May 22 2015, 01:55 PM)

Posted by: Shadowfax May 22 2015, 01:01 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ May 22 2015, 01:54 PM)

We are now out stock of front and rear boards at this time. We'll loop back and make some more boards after a bit of a vacation. That we were able to put all the boards we purchased into use is awesome. You 914world guys rocks.

Posted by: euro911 May 22 2015, 01:35 PM

Crap, I don't think I can do the 911 LEDs. Mine are early SWB cars with the enclosed tail light assemblies (not removable lenses).

I don't know if the later year tail light buckets can be installed on early cars ... guess I'll have to use one of my life-lines to get the answer

Posted by: SKL1 May 22 2015, 08:26 PM

Be sure to let us know Spoke when you may get around to making more rear sets... TIA

Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 May 23 2015, 02:28 PM

We are now out stock of front and rear boards at this time. We'll loop back and make some more boards after a bit of a vacation. That we were able to put all the boards we purchased into use is awesome. You 914world guys rocks.

Posted by: warrenoliver May 26 2015, 04:09 PM

Just got my fronts today. Went out to the garage and had them in within 10 minutes. Great product. Looking forward to ordering the rears once they are back in stock.

Thanks Jerry

Posted by: SKL1 May 27 2015, 07:42 PM

My fronts for both cars are being made now... should have gotten rears for both but by the time I got one set and put them on the '71 they were out of them.
Not cheap, but worth it. Will look forward to a new run of the rears in the future.
Now the LED headlights (another thread...) are on their way. I guess the car is slowly becoming a little more "modern."

Posted by: dangerranger01 May 27 2015, 09:15 PM

Well Spoke, might as well count me in for a full set of your amazing LED lights. Just pm me when you're doing it and i'll buy them...look totally awesome. Good work!

Posted by: SKL1 Jun 2 2015, 08:20 PM

Installed the front LED's on both cars today. The silver car has the clear Italian front lenses with the amber full lights and they look fantastic. The red car has the Euro front lenses with clear bottom and red top. Not sure how Jerry does it but it works both the top and bottom with one plug in rather than the extra bulb and wire with my previous "kit." This is SO much better and works great.

I didn't get my act together quick enough to get the rear lights for the '73 so will be anxiously awaiting Jerry's next run...

Best addition i've found here! Thanks Jerry (spoke)...

Posted by: morgan_harwell Nov 3 2015, 04:30 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Feb 23 2015, 08:48 PM)

Posted by: Spoke Nov 4 2015, 09:16 PM

QUOTE(morgan_harwell @ Nov 3 2015, 05:30 PM)

QUOTE(Spoke @ Feb 23 2015, 08:48 PM)

Looks good Cary. Are you using the stock 914 flasher or EP36 or other?
A couple of notes:
. . .

2) The early stock 914 flasher (with L & R dash indicators) seems to work fine if the dash indicators are rewired so the common wire normally from the K lug on the flasher are connected to ground. This little bit of resistive load seems to cause the flasher to flash normally with LEDs front and rear. My 914 is wired this way and the flasher will flash normally even with both front and rear lights removed. Another 914World member with LEDs front and rear got his early flasher to work only after rewiring the dash indicators.

3) I'm adding a 1k ohm resistor across the turnsignal wires on the front and rear boards to add at least a little bit of resistive signature to help flashers see the LED loads. Not sure how much this helps but it's easy to do.

. . .

Howdy,

Is a symptom of the above problem => all four LED Turn Signal boards flashing together when the steering column turn signal stalk is set to Left turn or Right turn?

Posted by: mbseto Nov 5 2015, 08:17 AM

Jerry;
Have you thought about getting these certified for road use? Saw a post on another forum from a guy in the industry saying that a test for certification could be as low as $500. Is there enough volume to justify that?

Posted by: Spoke Nov 5 2015, 09:31 AM

QUOTE(mbseto @ Nov 5 2015, 09:17 AM)

Posted by: Spoke Nov 5 2015, 11:03 AM

We're gearing up to do another run of front and rear LEDs. Should have PCBs in hand within a month.

Making some small changes to the boards before going to fab. Every board will now have a footprint for a ballast resistor. This will help dampen the effect of any leakages or other circuits on the light wires.

We're just clearing up an interaction issue with 911 brake lights where the cruise control brake light sensor dumps about 8ma into the brake lights. With no ballast resistor, the CC sensor pulls up on the brake light wire until the LEDs turn on a little bit and the CC refuses to stay engaged. We're adding ballast resistors to all boards now.

Posted by: Montreal914 Nov 5 2015, 02:43 PM

What is your configuration for Euro tail lights side marker?
In Europe, my understanding is that they don't use the side marker bulb.
Here, with the small bulb on the side the amber part of the lens gets lit which makes a combination of read and amber taillight. I have been looking for a red small bulb to put on the side so that the amber part would become red.
I found some red covers at Autozone and it worked for a while until they crumbled from the heat.
The result was red everywhere then when the blinker would kick in, it would flash amber.
Did you ever try something like this using LEDs?

Posted by: whatabout1 Nov 5 2015, 03:31 PM

I would be in for a pair rears. Have your front Euro's

PM'd you a month or 2 ago.

Still in !

Posted by: rgolia Nov 5 2015, 03:41 PM

I am in for a pair of rears US spec. When I purchased the front from you, you mentioned that the rears can have a dim light in the brake light area.....if still possible put me in for that. Thanks Jerry and my fronts look great.

Posted by: Shadowfax Nov 5 2015, 07:04 PM

Very pleased with the rear lights. I'm in for a pair of U.S. front LEDs.

Posted by: mbseto Nov 6 2015, 02:51 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Nov 5 2015, 10:31 AM)

QUOTE(mbseto @ Nov 5 2015, 09:17 AM)

Jerry;
Have you thought about getting these certified for road use? Saw a post on another forum from a guy in the industry saying that a test for certification could be as low as $500. Is there enough volume to justify that?

I haven't considered getting these certified mainly because of the low volumes. Also there are many variants which I imagine would need individual certification:

914 brakes;
914 rear red turnsignals;
914 rear amber turnsignals;
914 front Euro White/amber;
914 front USA all amber;
911 brakes;
911 3rd brake;
911 rear red turnsignals;
911 rear amber turnsignals;
911 front Euro white/amber;
911 front US all amber

Posted by: Spoke Dec 2 2015, 08:30 PM

QUOTE(mbseto @ Nov 6 2015, 03:51 PM)

Posted by: Spoke Dec 2 2015, 08:35 PM

Sent the rear PCB design to the fab this week. Will have rear PCBs in about 2 weeks. We'll start with the rear lights then add the front turnsignal bucket lights in the next months. I'll start a new thread when the rear lights are available.

Posted by: SKL1 Dec 2 2015, 08:43 PM

Need rear brake and red turn lights for a '73 from your new run...

thx Spoke...

Posted by: euro911 Dec 2 2015, 11:23 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Nov 5 2015, 09:03 AM)

Posted by: Coondog Dec 2 2015, 11:42 PM

Put me down for

1 pair euro fronts with blanking

1 pair euro rear turn amber

1 pair red brake light

Posted by: LowBridge Dec 3 2015, 06:22 AM

wow...

please put me down for a pair of front US and a pair of Brakes US.

also do you make a backup light kit?

do you have a timeline for delivery?

Posted by: JoeD Dec 3 2015, 06:59 AM

I'm in for a full set front and back...

1 pair euro fronts with blanking

1 pair euro rear turn amber

1 pair red brake light

Thanks!

Joe

Posted by: Spoke Dec 3 2015, 11:33 AM

QUOTE(euro911 @ Dec 3 2015, 12:23 AM)

Jerry, are the 'old' ckt boards capable of this mod (adding ballast resistors)?

If so, can you post a pic of where to add the resistor(s), and the value needed?


Paying 'OHMage' to you for bringing these to the marketplace

Posted by: euro911 Dec 3 2015, 05:42 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Dec 3 2015, 09:33 AM)

QUOTE(euro911 @ Dec 3 2015, 12:23 AM)

Jerry, are the 'old' ckt boards capable of this mod (adding ballast resistors)?

If so, can you post a pic of where to add the resistor(s), and the value needed?


Paying 'OHMage' to you for bringing these to the marketplace

We had been adding 1k ohm ballast resistors to all front and rear turnsignal boards. These are not the 6 ohm power ballast resistors which can be purchased from lighting sites.

The 1k ohm resistors only help an LED-compatible flasher to break over and turn on.

After the 911 cruise control work, we're now using 301 ohm ballast resistors.

Do you have issues where a ballast resistor would help?

Posted by: Steve Dec 3 2015, 05:58 PM

I installed the euro ones front and rear. The fronts have the blanking circuits. They work great and the light output is night and day better. My flasher relay works fine, but the dash light stopped flashing. At this point I do not know if it's related to the led lights. I have done a lot rewiring with the new gauges. Hopefully I will have time to play with it this weekend.

Posted by: SKL1 Dec 3 2015, 06:23 PM

Have the euro fronts on the '73 and love how they work with the top blinker and bottom running lights. SO much better than those cheap "kits" to make the euro lenses work appropriately.
Rear euro lights with brake lights also work great with much better output than stock on my '71.
Just need the US rear sets for the '73 when Spoke starts his new run. Didn't order them in time with his last run...

Posted by: Spoke Dec 3 2015, 07:50 PM

QUOTE(Steve @ Dec 3 2015, 06:58 PM)

Posted by: StratPlayer Dec 3 2015, 07:54 PM

I'm having the same problem,, turn signals work fine dash light doesn't work. Late model single L/R dash indicator.

Posted by: Spoke Dec 3 2015, 08:18 PM

QUOTE(StratPlayer @ Dec 3 2015, 08:54 PM)

Posted by: Steve Dec 3 2015, 08:20 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Dec 3 2015, 05:50 PM)

QUOTE(Steve @ Dec 3 2015, 06:58 PM)

I installed the euro ones front and rear. The fronts have the blanking circuits. They work great and the light output is night and day better. My flasher relay works fine, but the dash light stopped flashing. At this point I do not know if it's related to the led lights. I have done a lot rewiring with the new gauges. Hopefully I will have time to play with it this weekend.

You have a single L/R dash indicator, correct?

Posted by: Spoke Dec 3 2015, 08:32 PM

QUOTE(Steve @ Dec 3 2015, 09:20 PM)

Posted by: Steve Dec 4 2015, 12:43 AM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Dec 3 2015, 06:32 PM)

QUOTE(Steve @ Dec 3 2015, 09:20 PM)

The tach is a six tach, but I just use one bulb in it.
I'll check the flasher and bulb this weekend.

So the tach has L and R bulbs but you just use one to be consistent with your flasher?

If it were me, I would put L and R indicator bulbs in, wire a contact from each bulb to ground, and the other sides of the bulbs right to the turnsignal wires at the 4-way flasher where all the exterior turnsignal wires converge. Did this on my '74 when I rewired for an early tach with separate L and R indicators.

Posted by: rgolia Dec 4 2015, 02:01 PM

Spoke - I have the same issue. I think going for the tach swap out is the way to go. So I will now go looking for a tach. How is the new group buy coming along? I previously noted that I am in for a set of US tail lights.

Posted by: Spoke Dec 4 2015, 08:21 PM

QUOTE(rgolia @ Dec 4 2015, 03:01 PM)

Posted by: Spoke Dec 16 2015, 08:18 PM

Rear boards are back from the fab. Look for a new GB thread in a couple of days. We should be able to start shipping after the new year.

Posted by: whitetwinturbo Mar 23 2016, 12:46 PM

Just got and installed front LED's .... NICE.

Left from front picture shows LED and right/driver from the front shows stock bulb. Note bottom section of stock is much less bright.

Posted by: db9146 Apr 7 2016, 02:49 PM

Spoke, I have a question.

If I mask off the LEDs, can I paint the PWB beneath? On the previous version Euro front set, the green can be seen somewhat through the Euro lens (particularly the clear bottom portion) and I was wondering about a way to cover that up.

Thanks.

Posted by: Luke M Aug 11 2016, 05:16 AM

for a great product...

I installed Spoke's LED kit in the front and rear housings.
It didn't take too long and it was pretty easy to do.
I'd say best upgrade and money well spent on this.

Also thanks to 914rubber for making the seals used to finish sealing these up.

Thanks again for offering these products..


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Posted by: jim_hoyland Apr 19 2019, 08:24 PM

Fantastic product, just finished converting the rear brakes lights, backup lights, and turnsignsls. Each board is made to fit like a glove and the connectors are high quality: not likely to corrode.

Next: gonna do the fronts


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Posted by: jim_hoyland May 14 2019, 06:10 PM

The front Euro lights need to be upgraded now. Here's a pic of my set up. It's a little different; I made a custom separate white light holder for the lower portion.
The Amber part has a dual filiment bulb for running and turn signal; the White part is a single filiment bulb. The wire that connects the White bulb has a female connector on the end.
I will remove the lower bulb support/holder so to make room for the new board
Will PM too


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Posted by: Spoke May 14 2019, 06:26 PM

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ May 14 2019, 08:10 PM)

Posted by: jim_hoyland May 14 2019, 06:52 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ May 14 2019, 05:26 PM)

QUOTE(jim_hoyland @ May 14 2019, 08:10 PM)

The front Euro lights need to be upgraded now. Here's a pic of my set up. It's a little different; I made a custom separate white light holder for the lower portion.
The Amber part has a dual filiment bulb for running and turn signal; the White part is a single filiment bulb. The wire that connects the White bulb has a female connector on the end.
I will remove the lower bulb support/holder so to make room for the new board
Will PM too

Jim,

Just to confirm, does the bulb for the turnsignal also light up dimly for just running lights? Is the bulb socket still like OEM for a 1157 bulb?
YES

Also does the amber part of the lens light gently for running lights with the white light on?
YES

Posted by: petza914 Oct 25 2019, 08:25 AM

Finally got around to installing the full spokeworks exterior LED kit into my 914 that I got last Christmas. Much brighter, lower power consumption, and some cool features like the front white lights turn off when the amber turn signals are activated. Linked instructions were very good, fit was very good.

Very happy with the results



I have some led bulbs for the front headlights yet to install behind my H4 lenses to complete the job.


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Posted by: ValcoOscar Oct 25 2019, 08:30 AM

Spoke's LED lights are one of my favorite mods. Keeps our cars a bit more visible out on the road. Thank you!!!



I hope to buy some more soon...

Oscar

Posted by: drem914 Oct 25 2019, 01:44 PM

QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Oct 25 2019, 07:30 AM)

Spoke's LED lights are one of my favorite mods. Keeps our cars a bit more visible out on the road. Thank you!!!



I hope to buy some more soon...

Oscar

Posted by: ndfrigi Oct 25 2019, 01:56 PM

QUOTE(drem914 @ Oct 25 2019, 12:44 PM)

QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Oct 25 2019, 07:30 AM)

Spoke's LED lights are one of my favorite mods. Keeps our cars a bit more visible out on the road. Thank you!!!



I hope to buy some more soon...

Oscar

except not to sure about the "hope to buy more soon." That means I need to get another car and I just don't have room in the garage right now.

Posted by: Spoke Oct 25 2019, 09:11 PM

QUOTE(ndfrigi @ Oct 25 2019, 03:56 PM)

Posted by: mmichalik Oct 25 2019, 10:00 PM

If we still can, I would like a full set, front and rear, all U.S plus seals.
Let me know please

Posted by: Spoke Oct 26 2019, 07:19 AM

QUOTE(mmichalik @ Oct 26 2019, 12:00 AM)

Posted by: malcolm2 Oct 30 2019, 08:48 PM

Added brake-tail lights tonight. Easy peezy.

Posted by: Porschef Oct 31 2019, 08:07 AM

On my wish list

Posted by: TitanMZ3 May 11 2020, 08:42 AM

I picked up the whole LED light kit for my '76 914. I am impressed. Huge upgrade in visibility. The back-up lights really light the way. The initial setup takes a bit mostly due to cleaning up the bulb sockets of oxidation and attaching the support brackets. Once that is done though, installation or reversal of the entire kit will probably take 5-8 minutes. I attached a bunch of pics. The driver's side of the car has been swapped over to LED. I ended up not needing the modified turn signal relay since it seemed to work just fine.

Some vid taken perhaps 30 minutes before dusk
https://youtu.be/_NfOOI45hr0
https://youtu.be/6bnrjdgwVvM

Posted by: BPic May 12 2020, 05:33 AM

Received my Spoke LED fogs back yesterday and they are really nice. Thanks @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3031

Installation is as easy as mounting them and hooking up the wires, they come ready to use. I now have Spoke LED on all four corners, Spoke fogs, and I went 914Rubber LED bulbs for the headlights. I already did the grounding of the white/blue wire from the fog relay and will change the wiring so I can run the fogs as running lights. The pics don't do them justice since I'm not a photographer and taking pics of lights makes thing look weird but here they are and they are very bright. I'll try to get better pics and repost.









So here's the thing. There are a few other options for LED out there but.... None that are the quality of Spoke LEDs and if you have questions try getting ahold of someone that knows the 914 intricacies. I sent Jerry an email on a Saturday to ask a question about an issue I was having and within 15 minutes my phone rang. He said it was easier to go over it on the phone and spent 20 minutes fixing what I screwed up and talking about 914's in general. So if you want a quality product, excellent customer service, and a fair price go with Spoke.

Thanks again Jerry! Love the lights!!

Posted by: mb911 May 12 2020, 06:25 AM

Just ordered brake lights from Jerry..

Posted by: ClayPerrine May 12 2020, 07:17 AM

We have spoke's lights on the rear of Betty's car. When I got hit, the first thing I did was turn on the hazard flashers. The whole back end of the car was smashed, but Spoke's LED lights in the rear were still working even after some of the LEDs were scraped off the board!!! You could see the right rear light still working from inside the folded sheet metal.

Hell of a great product. I will be installing new ones when we get her car back from the body shop.

Clay

Posted by: 76-914 May 12 2020, 09:29 AM

QUOTE(BPic @ May 12 2020, 04:33 AM)

Received my Spoke LED fogs back yesterday and they are really nice. Thanks @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3031

Installation is as easy as mounting them and hooking up the wires, they come ready to use. I now have Spoke LED on all four corners, Spoke fogs, and I went 914Rubber LED bulbs for the headlights. I already did the grounding of the white/blue wire from the fog relay and will change the wiring so I can run the fogs as running lights. The pics don't do them justice since I'm not a photographer and taking pics of lights makes thing look weird but here they are and they are very bright. I'll try to get better pics and repost.









So here's the thing. There are a few other options for LED out there but.... None that are the quality of Spoke LEDs and if you have questions try getting ahold of someone that knows the 914 intricacies. I sent Jerry an email on a Saturday to ask a question about an issue I was having and within 15 minutes my phone rang. He said it was easier to go over it on the phone and spent 20 minutes fixing what I screwed up and talking about 914's in general. So if you want a quality product, excellent customer service, and a fair price go with Spoke.

Thanks again Jerry! Love the lights!!

Posted by: Spoke May 12 2020, 12:57 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 12 2020, 09:17 AM)

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 12 2020, 01:04 PM

Offroad car has a set. No filaments to rattle loose.

Posted by: ClayPerrine May 12 2020, 01:23 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ May 12 2020, 01:57 PM)

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 12 2020, 09:17 AM)

We have spoke's lights on the rear of Betty's car. When I got hit, the first thing I did was turn on the hazard flashers. The whole back end of the car was smashed, but Spoke's LED lights in the rear were still working even after some of the LEDs were scraped off the board!!! You could see the right rear light still working from inside the folded sheet metal.

Hell of a great product. I will be installing new ones when we get her car back from the body shop.

Clay

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1143

Still pleasantly amazed you were not seriously hurt in that accident. Let me know what lights need replaced and I'll take care of it. Please send me the broken boards unless you want to keep them.

Posted by: Spoke May 25 2020, 10:24 AM

Got the first set of round brake/rear turnsignal board assembled. This set will be going to Bob @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1239 for his 914RS car.

I will test out the boards on my 914 so hope to have some pictures later today. Assuming they fit well, I'll put these on my website soon. These boards have 20 more LEDs than the square brake/turnsignal boards as I wanted to insure that the round pattern wouldn't have holes.

As for pricing, the added LEDs and inflation has caught up to Spokeworks. Pricing will change from $90 to $100 for the brakes and $100 to $110 for the turnsignals. The first price increase since 2014 when I started making these boards. The square boards will remain at their current price points.

Posted by: SKL1 May 25 2020, 10:31 AM

Another satisfied customer here- have them on both 914's, with euro lighting (ROW on one, Italian clear fronts on another)...

Need to get his fog light boards- just haven't gotten around to it.

Posted by: Spoke May 25 2020, 07:37 PM

The fit is good. They look really cool although the reverse light is still a square.



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Posted by: Spoke May 25 2020, 07:41 PM

Here's some pictures at night. The pattern is definitely round and looks great. Interestingly as well, the turnsignal lenses are amber yet the red turnsignal LEDs look the same as the brake LEDs.

The extra 20 LEDs worked out well to fill in the circle.




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Posted by: mb911 May 26 2020, 04:35 PM

Very nice..

Posted by: ValcoOscar May 26 2020, 04:52 PM

VERY Nice....

When will you start to offer these?

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3031

Oscar

Posted by: Gatornapper May 26 2020, 05:59 PM

” I already did the grounding of the white/blue wire from the fog relay and will change the wiring so I can run the fogs as running lights.”

PLEASE tell me how to do this - been wanting to do the same.

GN

QUOTE(BPic @ May 12 2020, 05:33 AM)

Received my Spoke LED fogs back yesterday and they are really nice. Thanks @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3031

Installation is as easy as mounting them and hooking up the wires, they come ready to use. I now have Spoke LED on all four corners, Spoke fogs, and I went 914Rubber LED bulbs for the headlights. I already did the grounding of the white/blue wire from the fog relay and will change the wiring so I can run the fogs as running lights. The pics don't do them justice since I'm not a photographer and taking pics of lights makes thing look weird but here they are and they are very bright. I'll try to get better pics and repost.









So here's the thing. There are a few other options for LED out there but.... None that are the quality of Spoke LEDs and if you have questions try getting ahold of someone that knows the 914 intricacies. I sent Jerry an email on a Saturday to ask a question about an issue I was having and within 15 minutes my phone rang. He said it was easier to go over it on the phone and spent 20 minutes fixing what I screwed up and talking about 914's in general. So if you want a quality product, excellent customer service, and a fair price go with Spoke.

Thanks again Jerry! Love the lights!!

Posted by: mb911 May 26 2020, 06:07 PM

QUOTE(Gatornapper @ May 26 2020, 03:59 PM)

” I already did the grounding of the white/blue wire from the fog relay and will change the wiring so I can run the fogs as running lights.”

PLEASE tell me how to do this - been wanting to do the same.

GN

QUOTE(BPic @ May 12 2020, 05:33 AM)

Received my Spoke LED fogs back yesterday and they are really nice. Thanks @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3031

Installation is as easy as mounting them and hooking up the wires, they come ready to use. I now have Spoke LED on all four corners, Spoke fogs, and I went 914Rubber LED bulbs for the headlights. I already did the grounding of the white/blue wire from the fog relay and will change the wiring so I can run the fogs as running lights. The pics don't do them justice since I'm not a photographer and taking pics of lights makes thing look weird but here they are and they are very bright. I'll try to get better pics and repost.









So here's the thing. There are a few other options for LED out there but.... None that are the quality of Spoke LEDs and if you have questions try getting ahold of someone that knows the 914 intricacies. I sent Jerry an email on a Saturday to ask a question about an issue I was having and within 15 minutes my phone rang. He said it was easier to go over it on the phone and spent 20 minutes fixing what I screwed up and talking about 914's in general. So if you want a quality product, excellent customer service, and a fair price go with Spoke.

Thanks again Jerry! Love the lights!!

Posted by: BPic May 27 2020, 05:26 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21449
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892


This is copied form some place but I don't remember where I got it. Worked great for me. I did conversion 1b and conversion 2.

914 FOGLIGHT REWIRING INSTRUCTIONS

________________________________________
Ever wish you could use your foglights without having to have your headlight on, or wish they would stay on when you switch on the highbeams? Well, this set of instructions will explain how to rewire your 914 so that you can!

This set of instructions has been compiled from a variety of sources:


1. Instructions from GPR (no longer on the web as far as I know).
2. Instructions from a technical article in Porsche Panorama July '89.
3. Studying the wiring diagrams from the factory manuals (note: the wiring diagrams in the Haynes manual for '75 and '76 cars is incorrect when it comes to the fog light wiring, so do not use that diagram as a reference).
DISCLAIMER: I have only done this conversion on my '74 914. These instructions may or may not be correct, and cannot account for any previous re-wires that may have been done to your electrical system. So follow these instructions at your own risk!

The first step is to figure out how you want your fog lights to work. From the factory, your fog lights will only operate when the headlights are on ('70 and '71 cars can use their foglights with the running lights), and will turn off when your headlights are switched to high beams.
Conversion #1 (choose 1a or 1b), will modify when you are able to use your fog lights.
Conversion #2 will keep your fog lights on when using high beams.

Conversion 1a: Fog lights enabled with the running lights. This option will enable you to use your fog lights anytime your running lights are on. This is my preferred method because I can just leave my fog light switch on permanently. Whenever I want just the fogs, I pull the headlight switch to the running light position, and of course, they stay on with the headlights as well. '70-'71 cars (4cyl and 6cyl) already come from the factory wired for this.

Conversion 1b: Fog lights enabled with the ignition. This option will allow you to turn on the fog lights anytime the igniton is turned on. This option is best for people who want to use their fog lights as daytime running lights, or for those who simply want to use their fog lights without any other lights being on.

Conversion 2: This option will enable your fog lights to stay on when the headlights are switched to high beam. This is a completely separate change from options 1a or 1b. Personally, I did not see the purpose in doing this (I very rarely use my high beams anyway).


Conversion #1 Instructions.
1. Disconnect the negative side of the battery.

2. Remove the headlight switch from the dash mounted location and let it hang down below the dash.

3. Locate the following black wire w/ blue stripe:



• '70-'71 914-4 and 914-6: Black wire w/ blue stripe will be plugged into the #58b terminal on the headlight switch, along with a grey wire.
• '72-'73: Black wire w/ blue stripe will be plugged into the #56 terminal on the headlight switch, along with a grey wire and a red w/white striped wire.
• '74-'76: Black wire w/ blue stripe will be plugged into the #56 terminal on the headlight switch, along with a red w/white striped wire.
4. Carefully cut the black wire w/ blue stripe as close to the end (spade terminal) as possible leaving no part of the wire exposed. Crimp a piggy-back spade connector to the end of this wire. A piggy back spade terminal looks like this:






5a. (do this step if you selected option 1a above):
To enable your fog lights with the running lights, locate the 'K' ternimal on the headlight switch and remove the connector that is attached to it. Plug on the black wire w/ blue stripe and then piggyback the wire that was originally on the 'K' terminal.

5b. (do this step if you selected option 1b above):
To enable your fog lights with the ignition, then locate the #15 ternimal on the headlight switch and remove the connector that is attached to it. Plug on the black wire w/ blue stripe and then piggyback the wire that was originally on the #15 terminal.

6. Now put the headlight switch back into place and continue on to conversion #2 if you decided to do that modification as well. Otherwise, go ahead and hook up your battery and test out your fog lights.



Conversion #2 Instructions.

1. Disconnect the negative side of the battery.

2. Remove the fuse cover and remove the screws which hold the fuse block plate in place - pull down the fuse block assembly and let it hang.

3. Locate and cut the following white w/blue striped wire:



• '70-'71 914/4: First, you need to locate the combination relay. I believe it is mounted on the fuse block panel. The white w/blue striped wire will be attached to the 'F' terminal on the combination relay (along with a plain white wire). Cut this wire as close to the relay as possible leaving no part of the wire exposed.
• '72-'73 and 914/6: There will be two white w/blue striped wires attached at the #1 fuse on the fuse block. One of these wires goes to the high beam indicator in the tachometer, the other is for the fog light relay. You need to determine which is which (trial and error, multimeter, etc), and leave the high beam indicator wire in place. Cut the other (the one for the fog light relay) white w/blue striped wire as close to the end (spade connector) as possible leaving no part of the wire exposed.
• '74-'76: The white w/blue striped wire is attached at the input side of the #1 fuse on the fuse block (input side is toward the rear of the car). Cut this wire as close to the end (spade connector) as possible leaving no part of the wire exposed. Note: There is another white w/blue striped wire attached to the output side of the #1 fuse - leave this wire alone as it is for the high beam indicator light.

4. Now you need to permanently ground this white/blue striped wire. You will notice that there is a ground connection located at the upper left side of the fuse block mount with a bunch of other brown wires held down by a 13mm nut. You may need to splice in a few inches of additional wire to reach this ground point. Crimp a solderless terminal which will fit over the ground stud onto the wire, and fasten it to the ground connection with the other wires.

5. Now put the fuse block back in place, and hook up your battery. Your fog lights should now work with the high beams!

Posted by: Gatornapper May 28 2020, 03:22 PM

Thanks BP!

1b is what I’m after.....

So I do both what is in 1b AND what is in 2. ‘74-‘76. 5......right?

GN

QUOTE(BPic @ May 27 2020, 05:26 AM)

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21449
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892


This is copied form some place but I don't remember where I got it. Worked great for me. I did conversion 1b and conversion 2.

914 FOGLIGHT REWIRING INSTRUCTIONS

________________________________________
Ever wish you could use your foglights without having to have your headlight on, or wish they would stay on when you switch on the highbeams? Well, this set of instructions will explain how to rewire your 914 so that you can!

This set of instructions has been compiled from a variety of sources:


1. Instructions from GPR (no longer on the web as far as I know).
2. Instructions from a technical article in Porsche Panorama July '89.
3. Studying the wiring diagrams from the factory manuals (note: the wiring diagrams in the Haynes manual for '75 and '76 cars is incorrect when it comes to the fog light wiring, so do not use that diagram as a reference).
DISCLAIMER: I have only done this conversion on my '74 914. These instructions may or may not be correct, and cannot account for any previous re-wires that may have been done to your electrical system. So follow these instructions at your own risk!

The first step is to figure out how you want your fog lights to work. From the factory, your fog lights will only operate when the headlights are on ('70 and '71 cars can use their foglights with the running lights), and will turn off when your headlights are switched to high beams.
Conversion #1 (choose 1a or 1b), will modify when you are able to use your fog lights.
Conversion #2 will keep your fog lights on when using high beams.

Conversion 1a: Fog lights enabled with the running lights. This option will enable you to use your fog lights anytime your running lights are on. This is my preferred method because I can just leave my fog light switch on permanently. Whenever I want just the fogs, I pull the headlight switch to the running light position, and of course, they stay on with the headlights as well. '70-'71 cars (4cyl and 6cyl) already come from the factory wired for this.

Conversion 1b: Fog lights enabled with the ignition. This option will allow you to turn on the fog lights anytime the igniton is turned on. This option is best for people who want to use their fog lights as daytime running lights, or for those who simply want to use their fog lights without any other lights being on.

Conversion 2: This option will enable your fog lights to stay on when the headlights are switched to high beam. This is a completely separate change from options 1a or 1b. Personally, I did not see the purpose in doing this (I very rarely use my high beams anyway).


Conversion #1 Instructions.
1. Disconnect the negative side of the battery.

2. Remove the headlight switch from the dash mounted location and let it hang down below the dash.

3. Locate the following black wire w/ blue stripe:



• '70-'71 914-4 and 914-6: Black wire w/ blue stripe will be plugged into the #58b terminal on the headlight switch, along with a grey wire.
• '72-'73: Black wire w/ blue stripe will be plugged into the #56 terminal on the headlight switch, along with a grey wire and a red w/white striped wire.
• '74-'76: Black wire w/ blue stripe will be plugged into the #56 terminal on the headlight switch, along with a red w/white striped wire.
4. Carefully cut the black wire w/ blue stripe as close to the end (spade terminal) as possible leaving no part of the wire exposed. Crimp a piggy-back spade connector to the end of this wire. A piggy back spade terminal looks like this:






5a. (do this step if you selected option 1a above):
To enable your fog lights with the running lights, locate the 'K' ternimal on the headlight switch and remove the connector that is attached to it. Plug on the black wire w/ blue stripe and then piggyback the wire that was originally on the 'K' terminal.

5b. (do this step if you selected option 1b above):
To enable your fog lights with the ignition, then locate the #15 ternimal on the headlight switch and remove the connector that is attached to it. Plug on the black wire w/ blue stripe and then piggyback the wire that was originally on the #15 terminal.

6. Now put the headlight switch back into place and continue on to conversion #2 if you decided to do that modification as well. Otherwise, go ahead and hook up your battery and test out your fog lights.



Conversion #2 Instructions.

1. Disconnect the negative side of the battery.

2. Remove the fuse cover and remove the screws which hold the fuse block plate in place - pull down the fuse block assembly and let it hang.

3. Locate and cut the following white w/blue striped wire:



• '70-'71 914/4: First, you need to locate the combination relay. I believe it is mounted on the fuse block panel. The white w/blue striped wire will be attached to the 'F' terminal on the combination relay (along with a plain white wire). Cut this wire as close to the relay as possible leaving no part of the wire exposed.
• '72-'73 and 914/6: There will be two white w/blue striped wires attached at the #1 fuse on the fuse block. One of these wires goes to the high beam indicator in the tachometer, the other is for the fog light relay. You need to determine which is which (trial and error, multimeter, etc), and leave the high beam indicator wire in place. Cut the other (the one for the fog light relay) white w/blue striped wire as close to the end (spade connector) as possible leaving no part of the wire exposed.
• '74-'76: The white w/blue striped wire is attached at the input side of the #1 fuse on the fuse block (input side is toward the rear of the car). Cut this wire as close to the end (spade connector) as possible leaving no part of the wire exposed. Note: There is another white w/blue striped wire attached to the output side of the #1 fuse - leave this wire alone as it is for the high beam indicator light.

4. Now you need to permanently ground this white/blue striped wire. You will notice that there is a ground connection located at the upper left side of the fuse block mount with a bunch of other brown wires held down by a 13mm nut. You may need to splice in a few inches of additional wire to reach this ground point. Crimp a solderless terminal which will fit over the ground stud onto the wire, and fasten it to the ground connection with the other wires.

5. Now put the fuse block back in place, and hook up your battery. Your fog lights should now work with the high beams!

Posted by: BPic May 28 2020, 05:01 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21449 - That is correct. It's a fairly easy job.

Posted by: Spoke May 28 2020, 09:47 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21449
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1319

GN,

Follow the thread below for rewiring the foglight. I showed how I did the rewire on my 71 as well as Bruce's rewire. Looks like the wiring changed over the 914 years but the basic idea is the same.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21864

Great write up. Many thanks.


http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=264737&view=findpost&p=2701373

Posted by: Gatornapper May 29 2020, 04:51 PM

Spoke -

Now going to read what you posted below.......Thanks!

GN

QUOTE(Spoke @ May 28 2020, 09:47 PM)

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21449
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1319

GN,

Follow the thread below for rewiring the foglight. I showed how I did the rewire on my 71 as well as Bruce's rewire. Looks like the wiring changed over the 914 years but the basic idea is the same.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21864

Great write up. Many thanks.


http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=264737&view=findpost&p=2701373

Posted by: Gatornapper May 29 2020, 05:12 PM

Still not seeing what I want - Fog LIghts on whenever ignition is on as running lights, bypassing both Fog Light switch (do not have, do not want) and headlight switch.

Seems to me all I need to do is cut white/blue wire and get 12+ from any ignition hot source (cigar lighter) to it/pin 86. Seal end of white/blue wire that goes to low beam fuse. Install one of my relays from 914rubber - and I’ve got my LED running light/fog lights.....

Wouldn’t this work cleanly?

GN

QUOTE(Spoke @ May 28 2020, 09:47 PM)

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21449
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1319

GN,

Follow the thread below for rewiring the foglight. I showed how I did the rewire on my 71 as well as Bruce's rewire. Looks like the wiring changed over the 914 years but the basic idea is the same.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21864

Great write up. Many thanks.


http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=264737&view=findpost&p=2701373

Posted by: Spoke Aug 2 2020, 06:30 PM

I'm updating the Euro front turnsignals to add more white LEDs. Recently I did a brake light for an MG. It was a tiny board and I jammed 48 LEDs on to it. That got me thinking about the 914 Euro front turnsignals.

The current design has 21 white LEDs and the board is designed for both Euro with 21 white and 48 amber LEDs as well as the US configuration with all amber LEDs.

I wanted to jam as many white LEDs as possible where they would all shine through the clear part of the Euro lens. The first design is V7 below with 33 white LEDs. This design is completely routed and ready for the fab house.

Upon further review, I wanted to jam even more white LEDs on the board. One thing I noticed about the board and the Euro lens, was that I could see the first row of amber LEDs through the clear portion of the lens. That means I could add another row of white LEDs and they would shine through the clear part of the lens. This design is shown below as V8 and has 42 white LEDs. Twice as many as the current design.

Even though the V7 design is ready for fabrication, I think I want to do the V8 design with more LEDs.

Still need to do the final layout for this board.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=5268
Ray, this means your front turnsignals will be delayed until I finish the layout, get the board fabricated and assembled. Sorry to make you wait but it should be well worth it.

V7 - 33 White LEDs


V8 - 42 White LEDs

Posted by: rmital Aug 3 2020, 08:29 AM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Aug 2 2020, 08:30 PM)

Posted by: Spoke Feb 13 2021, 08:32 AM

Doing rear boards in white now. From now on, white boards will come with white clips. Thanks Pete for the suggestion.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2058




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Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 13 2021, 08:54 AM

This is one of the best upgrades you can do to improve the safety of your car. I know @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3031 is also working on a way to do the foglight so it looks closer to the stock configuration (round). I am anxiously awaiting those so I can upgrade my foglights as they are wired to work as daytime running lights.

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 13 2021, 11:57 AM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Feb 13 2021, 06:54 AM)

This is one of the best upgrades you can do to improve the safety of your car.

Posted by: porsche914gt Feb 14 2021, 11:27 AM

sure, full set, please.

Posted by: anderssj Feb 14 2021, 02:43 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Aug 2 2020, 08:30 PM)

I'm updating the Euro front turnsignals to add more white LEDs. Recently I did a brake light for an MG. It was a tiny board and I jammed 48 LEDs on to it. That got me thinking about the 914 Euro front turnsignals.

The current design has 21 white LEDs and the board is designed for both Euro with 21 white and 48 amber LEDs as well as the US configuration with all amber LEDs.

I wanted to jam as many white LEDs as possible where they would all shine through the clear part of the Euro lens. The first design is V7 below with 33 white LEDs. This design is completely routed and ready for the fab house.

Upon further review, I wanted to jam even more white LEDs on the board. One thing I noticed about the board and the Euro lens, was that I could see the first row of amber LEDs through the clear portion of the lens. That means I could add another row of white LEDs and they would shine through the clear part of the lens. This design is shown below as V8 and has 42 white LEDs. Twice as many as the current design.

Even though the V7 design is ready for fabrication, I think I want to do the V8 design with more LEDs.

Still need to do the final layout for this board.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=5268
Ray, this means your front turnsignals will be delayed until I finish the layout, get the board fabricated and assembled. Sorry to make you wait but it should be well worth it.

V7 - 33 White LEDs


V8 - 42 White LEDs

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 23 2021, 07:20 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Feb 13 2021, 06:32 AM)

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 23 2021, 11:44 PM

New white brake boards with comparison between black and white clips.




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Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 23 2021, 11:49 PM

Comparison of stock setup (more black is visible at bottom of brake light bucket) and new white brake board with "silver" clips.

I tried a "chrome" paint on the LH clip set and a "flat aluminum" paint on the RH clip set. Both were better than white, but the flat aluminum makes the clips nearly disappear. You'd really have to know they were there—and look for them, too.

Into the weeds? Sure, but it might be interesting for those who want an appearance that's as close to factory as possible with a significant safety upgrade.


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Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 24 2021, 08:42 AM

Nice job Pete. That takes an already outstanding product and improves on it. All of Spoke's lights are on my list.

Posted by: Spoke Feb 24 2021, 11:30 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2058

Pete, thanks for evaluating this. I think the white filament will work for the front turnsignals with white PCB. I can get silver or gray filament for the rear lights.

Posted by: drem914 Mar 20 2021, 12:37 PM

QUOTE(anderssj @ Feb 14 2021, 01:43 PM)

QUOTE(Spoke @ Aug 2 2020, 08:30 PM)

I'm updating the Euro front turnsignals to add more white LEDs. Recently I did a brake light for an MG. It was a tiny board and I jammed 48 LEDs on to it. That got me thinking about the 914 Euro front turnsignals.
The current design has 21 white LEDs and the board is designed for both Euro with 21 white and 48 amber LEDs as well as the US configuration with all amber LEDs.
I wanted to jam as many white LEDs as possible where they would all shine through the clear part of the Euro lens. The first design is V7 below with 33 white LEDs. This design is completely routed and ready for the fab house.
Upon further review, I wanted to jam even more white LEDs on the board. One thing I noticed about the board and the Euro lens, was that I could see the first row of amber LEDs through the clear portion of the lens. That means I could add another row of white LEDs and they would shine through the clear part of the lens. This design is shown below as V8 and has 42 white LEDs. Twice as many as the current design.
Even though the V7 design is ready for fabrication, I think I want to do the V8 design with more LEDs.
Still need to do the final layout for this board.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=5268 Ray, this means your front turnsignals will be delayed until I finish the layout, get the board fabricated and assembled. Sorry to make you wait but it should be well worth it.
V7 - 33 White LEDs

V8 - 42 White LEDs

Spoke,
Thanks for your work on the LED lights! The brake light boards are GREAT--as the others said, they provide a huge improvement in visibility and safety.
Is the latest version of the front Euro turn signals (V8 w/42 white LEDs?) available yet? I've got a tax return burning a hole in my pocket
Thanks!
Steve A-

Posted by: eric9144 Mar 20 2021, 02:04 PM

QUOTE(drem914 @ Mar 20 2021, 11:37 AM)

Posted by: Spoke Mar 20 2021, 06:55 PM

QUOTE(drem914 @ Mar 20 2021, 02:37 PM)

Posted by: drem914 Mar 20 2021, 10:41 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3031
So orders placed on your site for the euro front turn signals set up will be V8 and not v7 correct?

FYI order placed.

Posted by: Spoke Mar 21 2021, 08:39 AM

QUOTE(drem914 @ Mar 21 2021, 12:41 AM)

Posted by: Mike&Shelley Mar 21 2021, 12:22 PM

Please count me in on the Euro w/blanking
I would like to have both front turn and rear turn and brake.

Looking forward to receiving these for my build.

Thank you.
72' 914 project.
Mike& Shelley

Posted by: SKL1 Mar 21 2021, 10:44 PM

Welcome to 914 world Mike!

(another Central Iowa region member!)

Posted by: anderssj Mar 22 2021, 08:07 AM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Mar 21 2021, 10:39 AM)

Posted by: eric9144 Mar 22 2021, 08:48 AM

Order for v8 boards placed also

Posted by: Luke M Mar 22 2021, 10:08 AM

Hi Jerry,

Would you happen to have a comparison picture between the two versions of the Euro fronts? I have a set of the older ones but may upgrade to V8 .

Posted by: Spoke Mar 23 2021, 05:21 AM

QUOTE(Luke M @ Mar 22 2021, 12:08 PM)

Posted by: rgolia Mar 23 2021, 10:45 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3031 - those look good.....may need to upgrade from the early version I have.

Posted by: drem914 Mar 23 2021, 01:29 PM

Are those on a white or black board?

Posted by: Luke M Mar 23 2021, 04:29 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Mar 23 2021, 04:21 AM)

QUOTE(Luke M @ Mar 22 2021, 12:08 PM)

Hi Jerry,

Would you happen to have a comparison picture between the two versions of the Euro fronts? I have a set of the older ones but may upgrade to V8 .

Eric,

I'll take some better pictures this weekend. Here's what the difference will look like. The old boards had white lines and the new boards have a solid white appearance. The light output is about 50% more intensity.

Posted by: Spoke Mar 25 2021, 04:50 AM

QUOTE(drem914 @ Mar 23 2021, 03:29 PM)

Posted by: anderssj Apr 27 2021, 04:53 PM

A small box arrived in the mail today (THANKS Jerry!)

Version 8 of the front boards from Spokeworks.com.

Installation is easy-peasy--to the point I thought pictures unnecessary. The most difficult part was getting my big mitt into the front housing to install the base.

That said, here's a picture showing the new LED parking light (passenger side) compared to the old incandescent parking light (driver side):



And yes, they're both "on."

Best mod since I've done since installing Jerry's brake light boards!

Posted by: eric9144 Apr 28 2021, 01:49 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=207 wow what a difference!

I live off a country highway so visibility of my 914 to other drivers is a big thing, got my little box too and updated my older version to the newer boards, check out the density of the white LEDs compared to the previous iteration, the pics do not do them justice:



Bravo @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3031 another winning setup! The white 3D printed parts are also a good move, makes the board even more seamless under the lens

Posted by: drem914 Apr 28 2021, 05:53 PM

My box showed up today also and will swap out the old for new on Friday.

Posted by: BENBRO02 Aug 19 2021, 07:30 PM

I installed my Spokeworksled.com tail/brake lights tonight. Easy to install and much more visible. I felt like I was risking my life every time I drove in the rain before the upgrade. Great product!

Posted by: LefthandRev Apr 28 2022, 12:55 PM

Well, I've joined the club. Got these yesterday, installed them this morning.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 28 2022, 02:50 PM

Here are my Spoke LED front lights; I absolutely love them.

Posted by: ValcoOscar Apr 28 2022, 09:42 PM

I received a box full of Spoke LED lights

Thx

Well worth the $

Oscar

Posted by: BENBRO02 Aug 16 2022, 03:33 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3031
Can I add front euro with blanking (does this mean the white portion turns off when you activate a directional) and not effect the dash light if I keep incandescent bulbs in the rear?

Posted by: Spoke Aug 16 2022, 06:03 PM

QUOTE(BENBRO02 @ Aug 16 2022, 05:33 PM)

Posted by: BENBRO02 Aug 17 2022, 11:18 AM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Aug 16 2022, 08:03 PM)

QUOTE(BENBRO02 @ Aug 16 2022, 05:33 PM)

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3031
Can I add front euro with blanking (does this mean the white portion turns off when you activate a directional) and not effect the dash light if I keep incandescent bulbs in the rear?

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=18493

In general, converting to LED turnsignals will mess with your flasher relay. Do you have an early (separate L and R indicators) or late (single L/R indicator) tach? In either case, when you change to LED turnsignals, the flasher relay will not behave properly with the tach indicators. You need to swap out the OEM flasher relay with a modified EP26 LED-compatible flasher relay.

About the Euro front turnsignals, yes the white LEDs shut off when the turnsignal is active on that side. The Euro front turnsignals drop right into the US bucket although you do need a Euro lens with the clear bottom. Besides an LED-compatible flasher, all other bulbs can be incandescent including the tach indicators. I still run incandescent tach indicators.

Posted by: Rusty Aug 25 2023, 08:02 PM

Just a quick bump and some praise for Spoke and his LED kits. He makes items to order. My package arrived early from his shipping estimate.

I outfitted all of my car (less fog lights) in less than an hour today. Everything was as simple as could be. The improved lighting performance is a huge safety upgrade for our little cars, IMO.

Thanks, @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3031!