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Posted by: relentless Jan 22 2015, 10:56 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-914-6-1971-porsche-factory-914-6-1-of-260-for-u-s-numbers-match-excellent-history-/281571992930?forcerrptr=true&hash=item418effa562&item=281571992930&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
Posted by: SirAndy Jan 22 2015, 11:04 PM
Asking price is not selling price.
Having said that, someone actually did a pretty good job restoring that one.
There are a few minor details, but i didn't see anything that would detract from it's value overall.
PS: I hope he gets the $100k but i highly doubt it.
Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 22 2015, 11:39 PM
Very interesting car. I don't understand the euro rear lights and usa fronts with no markers.
That said, and a few other things...I could find room for it in my garage. 
Posted by: boxsterfan Jan 22 2015, 11:46 PM
If I was a rich person (which I am not), I would probably pay that price. Esepcially for a 914/6 from 1971. And that color is the 
Note: for my $100G's, I would want to see lots of pics of the restoration.
Posted by: MikeInMunich Jan 23 2015, 01:07 AM
I've never seen that piece of wood in a trunk before. I think I might just make one for that little something different / special. 
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 23 2015, 07:23 AM
Mike- That is not wood- it is a piece of dense foam. I wish I had a set of high res pictures of that entire car to assist in my restoration. When Sixes sell for $100K this will be one of them.
Posted by: OllieG Jan 23 2015, 07:40 AM
Ad says it's Willow Green but it looks very light/bright compared to other pics I've seen of Willow Green 914s on Google images.
The colour of this 6 looks great but looks to me as bright as Viper Green…only asking coz it's a colour I'm thinking about for my car.
Anyone got a W/G car?
Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 23 2015, 07:50 AM
I hope he gets it. That has to be one rare 6 in that color. Sensible upgrades to make it a better driver don't bug me at all.
Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 23 2015, 07:50 AM
double post but I still like it. Would like to see the hell hole shots though.
Posted by: cary Jan 23 2015, 07:58 AM
Note: for my $100G's, I would want to see lots of pics of the restoration.
I was thinking the same thing.
I know someone in Portland looking for 6. This color is right up his alley. He knows that $70k will buy him the car he wants. To make the leap to $100k would take a good size book of restoration documentation.
I think he's became a member here. Hopefully he'll see this.
Posted by: RobW Jan 23 2015, 08:04 AM
And I thought buying a /6 for $30K a few years back was crazy. 
Posted by: gereed75 Jan 23 2015, 09:12 AM
And I thought buying a /6 for $30K a few years back was crazy.
I was extremely lucky to have found a very good one for just under that 6 months ago.
This car appeals to me on many levels - the tasteful upgrades, the color, the year but also the "level" of restoration. This is exactly the route I am pursuing - a high quality car that does not compromise correctness, maintains originality where that makes sense but is not a concours show piece that you are afraid to drive. From what I see, I suspect that this character of car appeals to a broad market and makes the most economical sense.
Bubble or not, things are worth what people will pay for them, and it appears that the market will bear close to this. This is the next logical step from the recent cars that sold for $70K.
I do wonder when the demand for these cars will be satisfied. How many people in the world with the financial means can there be who really want sixes???
By the way - Not for sale....enjoying the process completely right now.
Posted by: porsche913b_sp Jan 23 2015, 09:48 AM
More pics here
http://www.autokennel.com/AutoKennel/Entries/Entries/2015/1/15_1971_Porsche_914-6_Numbers_Matching_Recent_Restoration.html
Posted by: Kansas 914 Jan 23 2015, 09:54 AM
Ad says it's Willow Green but it looks very light/bright compared to other pics I've seen of Willow Green 914s on Google images.
The colour of this 6 looks great but looks to me as bright as Viper Green…only asking coz it's a colour I'm thinking about for my car.
Anyone got a W/G car?
I have a Willow Green - repainted to original chip 2 years ago.
Posted by: GregAmy Jan 23 2015, 10:20 AM
Allow me to be a dissenter, having gone through price rises like this before: you really don't want these cars to be going to those levels.
First of all, that price is absurd. If these cars are actually bringing these numbers, then it clearly indicates a price bubble at serious risk of blowing up. That's neither good for you nor me, only for those trying to sell right now. Which means, if it goes for that, jump on the "sell" train before it leaves the station.
Second, prices like this are not good for the enthusiasts. Why do we have these cars? Because they're fun to drive, easy to work on and maintain. We drive them to work on nice days (and sometimes in not-so-nice days!) because they're fun.
Well, how much fun are you going to have driving your $100k (or $70k or $50k) car to work and parking it in the corporate lot next to a large-door Buick? Bet you'll give that serious second-thoughts. Nobody likes a garage queen except in Jalopnik articles.
For us, the enthusiasts, the best thing to happen is a gradual, slow, incremental rise in value, such that we can enjoy these cars, afford to repair/restore them, and enjoy driving them, as they were intended.
Food for thought.
GA, who lusted for one of those "not really a Ferrari!" Dinos while at university...
Posted by: boxsterfan Jan 23 2015, 10:41 AM
Allow me to be a dissenter, having gone through price rises like this before: you really don't want these cars to be going to those levels.
First of all, that price is absurd. If these cars are actually bringing these numbers, then it clearly indicates a price bubble at serious risk of blowing up. That's neither good for you nor me, only for those trying to sell right now. Which means, if it goes for that, jump on the "sell" train before it leaves the station.
Second, prices like this are not good for the enthusiasts. Why do we have these cars? Because they're fun to drive, easy to work on and maintain. We drive them to work on nice days (and sometimes in not-so-nice days!) because they're fun.
Well, how much fun are you going to have driving your $100k (or $70k or $50k) car to work and parking it in the corporate lot next to a large-door Buick? Bet you'll give that serious second-thoughts. Nobody likes a garage queen except in Jalopnik articles.
For us, the enthusiasts, the best thing to happen is a gradual, slow, incremental rise in value, such that we can enjoy these cars, afford to repair/restore them, and enjoy driving them, as they were intended.
Food for thought.
GA, who lusted for one of those "not really a Ferrari!" Dinos while at university...
I agree with your sentiment on "enthusiasts" cars, but eventually all the cool cars go to sky high prices and become garage queens. At least the 914/6's anyway. The 914/4's are still plentiful and will be a long long time before they ever hit that range....save for maybe the LE's which some will debate. Personally, the LE's should become more valuable in the /4's because there are so few of them left.
Posted by: boxsterfan Jan 23 2015, 10:44 AM
More pics here
http://www.autokennel.com/AutoKennel/Entries/Entries/2015/1/15_1971_Porsche_914-6_Numbers_Matching_Recent_Restoration.html
Lots of pics, but no pics of the actual restoration when the car was blasted down to bare sheetmetal. For $100G's (which, if I had the $$$, I might spend on a **1971** 914/6), I need to see pics of the whole restoration....before....during....and after. OK, well, we got the after pics. :-)
Posted by: DBCooper Jan 23 2015, 12:06 PM
Hell, I'm listing mine right now for $250,000. I swore I'd never sell it but what the hell, why not?
OBO, of course. We can talk about it but don't insult me.
Jeez guys, you're all drooling too much.
Posted by: Larmo63 Jan 23 2015, 12:39 PM
I've seen a lot of interest and articles lately about the 914 and the Amelia Island event can only help raise prices. When car collectors start gobbling up the /6's at $100K+ prices, you won't see them anymore. That will help /4 prices, but it prices everybody up (and out) in the marketplace.
The other issue is that our money isn't worth as much as it used to be.
Posted by: monkeyboy Jan 23 2015, 01:56 PM
For top dollar I would expect the car to be absolutely restored back to stock. A bigger motor and larger cams aren't acceptable for that price.
Sane with the filled marker lights.
Posted by: monkeyboy Jan 23 2015, 01:57 PM
For top dollar I would expect the car to be absolutely restored back to stock. A bigger motor and larger cams aren't acceptable for that price.
Sane with the filled marker lights.
Posted by: PlantMan Jan 23 2015, 02:36 PM
Should have bought that 6 for $9500 I saw back in the late 80's!
Rat Turds!
Posted by: OllieG Jan 23 2015, 02:47 PM
Ad says it's Willow Green but it looks very light/bright compared to other pics I've seen of Willow Green 914s on Google images.
The colour of this 6 looks great but looks to me as bright as Viper Green…only asking coz it's a colour I'm thinking about for my car.
Anyone got a W/G car?
I have a Willow Green - repainted to original chip 2 years ago.
It is a beautiful colour…just looks a bit darker in your pics than the ebay car…probably just because your car's indoors.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 23 2015, 03:03 PM
I would disagree regarding the larger engine. It is the original case and they bumped the pistons and cylinders up to 2.2 and changed the cams so the engine would have a little more horsepower and torque. Neither detracts from the car. The couple other changes as well do not detract from the car - the deep sixes add value (heck I have 6 of the original 14" Fuchs and they will not go back on my car).
That is a top dollar car IMHO.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 23 2015, 03:05 PM
Mike M - Your car is looking terrific. Looking forward to seeing it done.
Posted by: bulitt Jan 23 2015, 03:06 PM
This market is like the late 80's. It's going to be a long fall...
Posted by: Brian Mifsud Jan 23 2015, 03:34 PM
Isn't that the wrong rear bumper?
I thought the 6's has a squared off corner rather than the large radius for the license plate indent??
Not an expert.. but at $100K, that should be a perfectly authentic car shouldn't it?
I could be wrong...
Posted by: lostreasure Jan 23 2015, 03:38 PM
You are correct-Bumper should have squared/sharp edges-also lower valance is modified for better exhaust cooling.
Posted by: javadog Jan 23 2015, 03:49 PM
You are correct-Bumper should have squared/sharp edges-also lower valance is modified for better exhaust cooling.
No, the bumper is original to the car. You're describing a 1970 bumper, which is different from the one in 1971.
JR
Posted by: Mike Fitton Jan 23 2015, 03:56 PM
Allow me to be a dissenter, having gone through price rises like this before: you really don't want these cars to be going to those levels.
I do.
First of all, that price is absurd. If these cars are actually bringing these numbers, then it clearly indicates a price bubble at serious risk of blowing up. That's neither good for you nor me, only for those trying to sell right now. Which means, if it goes for that, jump on the "sell" train before it leaves the station.
When you say "these cars" are you saying that there are several cars in this condition (#1) and rare color?
Second, prices like this are not good for the enthusiasts. Why do we have these cars? Because they're fun to drive, easy to work on and maintain. We drive them to work on nice days (and sometimes in not-so-nice days!) because they're fun.
You can still find affordable beaters to work on and drive.
Well, how much fun are you going to have driving your $100k (or $70k or $50k) car to work and parking it in the corporate lot next to a large-door Buick? Bet you'll give that serious second-thoughts. Nobody likes a garage queen except in Jalopnik articles.
If it was my car I would still drive it for pleasure trips, cars & coffee's, etc. and certainly would not park any of my cars next to a large door Buick no matter what their value was. It is pretty obvious this is not a "drive to work car".
For us, the enthusiasts, the best thing to happen is a gradual, slow, incremental rise in value, such that we can enjoy these cars, afford to repair/restore them, and enjoy driving them, as they were intended.
Daily drivers for enthusiasts are going up gradually as they should this is a #1 restored car. You can still get a really nice 2.0 for $15k to $20k but you better hurry.
Food for thought.
GA, who lusted for one of those "not really a Ferrari!" Dinos while at university...
See my comments in red above. Just my .02
Posted by: SirAndy Jan 23 2015, 04:04 PM
The sharped edge bumper was '70 only and *not* exclusive to the /6 cars.
The early /4 cars had them as well.
By '71, they all had the rounded edges.
Posted by: Mike Fitton Jan 23 2015, 06:15 PM
I would disagree regarding the larger engine. It is the original case and they bumped the pistons and cylinders up to 2.2 and changed the cams so the engine would have a little more horsepower and torque. Neither detracts from the car. The couple other changes as well do not detract from the car - the deep sixes add value (heck I have 6 of the original 14" Fuchs and they will not go back on my car).
That is a top dollar car IMHO.
I restored my original 14's and put them back on the car, also I have a beefed up 2.7 installed right now. Pulled fenders are going back to original soon. My original matching 2.0 is on a pallet in my garage, so best of both worlds!
Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 23 2015, 06:18 PM
The sharped edge bumper was '70 only and *not* exclusive to the /6 cars.
The early /4 cars had them as well.
By '71, they all had the rounded edges.
And steering column key
Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 23 2015, 06:21 PM
Huh, for some reason I thought that the 71 Sixes also had the sharp-edged recess in the rear bumper. I knew that the 71 Fours had the curved-edge, though.
--DD
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 23 2015, 06:54 PM
The rear bumper changed during the '71 model year. The early production '71's had the hard edged bumper, the later '71's, like mine, came with the later rear bumper.
Posted by: javadog Jan 23 2015, 06:58 PM
And steering column key
Ahh, no. Try 1972.
JR
Posted by: mepstein Jan 23 2015, 08:04 PM
It can only go up...
...Just like the real estate market 10 years ago.
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