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Posted by: bd1308 Feb 6 2005, 10:24 AM

Went to Barbourville yesterday. Think 914 stockpile. They have everything over there.....1.8 engines, teh camper-buses i *love*, BMW 2002s, and much more. Picked up the parts car with a title *YEA!*. EVerything looks great! I loved it. ANyway, I recieved a car with decent longs, no engine, an ACTUAL REAL LIFE battery tray(heh), a key and a passenger door handle. Looks great. I want to post pictures today but I don't have a camera, and my girlfriend will be pissed if i halt progress to take car pictures.....I'll get em'. Might pick up a 6 and tranny and make another 914 racer Check you all later. I might just end up parting it out.....who knows?

Posted by: kafermeister Feb 6 2005, 03:12 PM

Congrats! It sounds like Mark and Dave took care of you. Did you end up buying the blue/oranga car?

Rick

Posted by: jd74914 Feb 6 2005, 03:36 PM

did you buy that one that is authentic pink off ebay (i think)

if you did you definately should paint it pink again, and get a COA

then you can make it into a racecar, after all what kind of racecar is pink (not counting funny drag cars)

Posted by: redshift Feb 6 2005, 03:47 PM

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 6 2005, 12:24 PM)
and my girlfriend will be pissed if i halt progress to take car pictures.....

When you pass third base, veer out of the baseline, and snap a couple shots..

M

Posted by: kafermeister Feb 6 2005, 04:30 PM

Oh, the pink one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6783&item=7949396886?

R

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 6 2005, 05:16 PM

QUOTE (kafermeister @ Feb 6 2005, 02:30 PM)
Oh, the pink one

thats the one....someone mentioned the "gulf" 914 (orange/blue)....that one was already sold. What i was going to do was take my crumpled front-end and put it onto the pink car. Then I could rough it in, get a little suby engine and tranny and go from there It's gonna take a LONG time as I have zero money....

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 6 2005, 05:17 PM

QUOTE (redshift @ Feb 6 2005, 01:47 PM)
When you pass third base, veer out of the baseline, and snap a couple shots..

when i rounded third base, i didnt have my camera with me......

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 6 2005, 10:45 PM

well what are the options....i mean would it be easier to get a 1.7 engine and tranny to put in the car or just start from scratch with a HD tranny and a chevy or suby engine....or a 911?

Posted by: scott thacher Feb 6 2005, 11:15 PM

okay you can go type 4 for 500 bucks ( maybe not a 2.0 )

or chevy for 2 to 4 grand depending on cooling and stuff ( RH radiator is a grand ) and you should upgrade the brakes for the car due to it gaining 200 to 300 lbs. plus a tranny, the stock one will be okay if your gental but the highway rpms will suck. or go 915 tranny for 3 to 7 grand.

or you have the 911 six option which can be 6 to 12 grand depending on deals found ( can we say trekkor ) and for the bigger sixes you get in to tranny and brakes again. but the tranny ratios will not be the best

or my favorite the suby option, a suby 2.2 130 hp on a stock tranny, installed for about 2 grand. then the brakes and tranny can handle the weight ( basicly the same ) and speed ( slightly faster top end, better accell ). or for another 500 you can get a 2.5 170 hp.

now for tranny you can buy a tranny for 200 to 1000 bucks and never realy know if it is okay ( better chance for 1000 ) or you can get 2 cheap trannys and do a redbeard rebuild and have some faith in the tranny

now all the above engines, even a type 4 can destroy a tranny if you are not nice to it.

i would say go suby 2.2 for 2 k or so, plus tranny. and be able to drive 10000 miles with just oil changes and check ups

Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 6 2005, 11:50 PM

Dude... If that car is truely specially ordered in pink and you can document it, Fix it to stock or sell it to someone that will! You can Subby anything.

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 7 2005, 07:16 AM

it's on the title....color code 78 or something like that. fixing it to stock would be a nice option, except that I would need to get *another* front-end for it, as the pink front-end is going to be used. I suppose I could use red's 914 front-end and then just try to fix that....or for $800 i could get a front-end from a junker 914. this car was a 73, so it would have like 1.8???? I just know my 74+ cars. Pink though??????????Dunno about pink. I'd love to have another pristine 914.

Posted by: scott thacher Feb 7 2005, 07:19 AM

73's have either a 1.7 or a 2.0 IIRC, 74's were 1.8 or 2.0

and 800 for a front end thats crazy should be 200 or so, heck you can still find none running complete cars for 200

Posted by: Chris H. Feb 7 2005, 07:21 AM

QUOTE (rick 918-S @ Feb 6 2005, 11:50 PM)
Dude... If that car is truely specially ordered in pink and you can document it, Fix it to stock or sell it to someone that will! You can Subby anything.

That special order pink is extremely rare, maybe 1 of a kind. Unless it is too far gone try to save that in stock form if you can. It would be worth something for sure.

If it was a '73 it was either a 1.7 or 2.0.

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 7 2005, 09:06 AM

well you can see the auction....I'm definately going to be using the front part to fix my other 914.....I have dreams of turning the pink car into something very cool. I'm not going to part it out. It's a spare 914. I'm going to cover it up and save it till i get out of college. I just dont know about pink, that's all. But hey, it could always still be a fun car. And pink is a one of a kind.

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Feb 7 2005, 09:16 AM

Well there was the 'Pink Pig' racecar...

I hear there were also a few Mary Kay pink cars, but those were kind of a mold pink, I have seen a photo somewhere...

Hot Pink? Thats a new one....

I think it would be cool to see though...specail factory colors are always cool to see...

Posted by: scotty b Feb 7 2005, 09:35 AM

You REALLY need to rethink cutting the pink car up !!! Have you ever watched the Barret Jackson auction and seeen what a specialty paint code can do to a cars value? You REALLY need to look into the authenticity before cutting that car. Yes it may be ugly BUT it may also be a one of a kind car. you could be destroying history!! Porsche history.Someone here has a front clip for less than 800.00 I gaurantee,find another clip and sell the pink car to a member or find someone to do it absolutely correct for you. Get it to V.A. and I may at some point! I might be willing tocut a front clip for you if you don't ruin that car,assuming it is a real factory paint. Think of the bragging you could do. " I have the ONLY factory pink Porsche, wanna see it? it will cost you $5.00 "

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 7 2005, 09:39 AM

try 500....and if someone can get me a front clip and a rear decklid for less than 500 shipped, i'll give you the car. I dont think i would be destroying porsche history, as I would eventually restore it (obviously).

Posted by: scotty b Feb 7 2005, 09:43 AM

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 7 2005, 07:39 AM)
try 500....and if someone can get me a front clip and a rear decklid for less than 500 shipped, i'll give you the car. I dont think i would be destroying porsche history, as I would eventually restore it (obviously).

Just for clarification, engine lid or trunk lid?

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 7 2005, 09:44 AM

I mean this thing (structurally wise) would be looked after to a pro....the body guy i have my body work done for knows what he is doing. Jaguar sends body work to him whenever they need work done. I trust this guy. I'm trading clips and then I am going to store this car until the summer when i can get what i need to fix the pink car. Destroying it would be to part it out and rip up the title. If the color is still around I'll paint it. The paint is shit AND it was repianted anyway (red). The only places that pink is still the color is in the longs. That's why Premiere couldnt seel it for more than 500. It's not original. At one time, it used to be pink, then somebody from some college bought it and drove it. so it's been sanded and repainted anyway.

Posted by: scotty b Feb 7 2005, 09:55 AM

So whats your point I asked if you needed a engine lid or a trunk lid ? Paint colors are always available. Paint shop take your code and go mix the color based on the different pigment listed to create it. If your body guy is good then great, let him do it. I'm just saying I would hate to see a possible one time only color NOT get the proper attention. By cutting that clip off with the intention of restoring pinky, you are creating twice the work and twice the money. But hey it's your time and money. I realize you want the red car fixed now but I'm just trying to give you some experienced advice.I've been restoring Porsches for 12 years so I think I may know SOMETHING!

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 7 2005, 10:01 AM

i am not degrading your porsche knowledge.....I'm just saying that A) most of the members reside on the west coast. If that is true then shipping would be a huge nightmare (ask Jake Raby). B)Front clips from 914's gone are $800....i found a restorable car for $500. I take what i need *now* so i dont have to bum rides from my girlfriend or mom like a kid and then go back and fix the pink car. I realize the cost is going to be outrageous, and that's why i'm not going to dive in and do a crap, total hack-job. Please...I don't want to anger anybody on this board. PLease regard this as a genuine thank you for your opinion.

and to answer your question, I need both trunks and a deck lid. I'm getting rid of the turbo-tail and I need to repair some things on my red car.

Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 8 2005, 12:36 AM

If you cut the pink car you are dead to me. For the rest of time you will be known as the guy that took a crap on 914 history. Finding a special car or one off in a model these days is rare. I'm not saying the car will ever be worth $ 10,000.00 or something, but it's the passion for the Marq. Based on the photos all the rust repair panels the pink car needs are available and easy to install. The paint can be mixed but if you hack the front off the code and vin will never exist again. Do us a favor and sell the pink car. infact if you dis-like the car enough to cut it up, do me a favor and sell the works and get a Mustang or Honda or something.

Posted by: scott thacher Feb 8 2005, 12:45 AM

first thing bd you need to put you name in your sig.

second do you self a favor wait a few months, somebody will be doing a sawzall aprty and you could probably get the clip to you for 150 bucks or so on a pallet through forward air, you just might have to put 2 pieces back together, but then you are putting a car together whats it matter.

Posted by: Mueller Feb 8 2005, 01:01 AM

how much is your body guy going to charge you to fix the 914-turned-into-a-snow-plow for???

that has got to be a $2000 job just to cut and reweld the front section and that is if the red tub is not tweaked too bad....you do know that the fenders do no un-bolt?? if you body guy can do the job in a few hours, he's brilllant or a hack and the car will be a hazard to drive......I have a decent front hood you can have for free, it's white....surface rust at some of the seams....

to replace any of that sheetmetal, everything has to be cut and welded back together....in my opinion, the car is totalled unless you have big bucks or can do it yourself...

I think you are better off transfering your good motor and parts onto the new "pink" car...of course I'd check the rust at the longs, they look like cr@p and could be a lot worse than the seller was admitting to.....

Posted by: markb Feb 8 2005, 01:41 AM

Throwing in my .02 here. The wrecked red car looks like a total to me. It's a lot of work to replace a front clip properly, and it's only feasable if you do the work yourself. If you plan on paying someone to do it, it's gonna cost big bucks. Ask McMark. His deer dented car is a real good example. The pink car is possibly a one of a kind car, true history. It would truly be a shame to have it cut up, because the chances of it becoming a whole car again are slim. Once you get hip deep in debt from trying to repair the red car, you're probably gonna run out of steam to do another. Unless, of course, you become an addict like many of us. I can't believe there are no other 914ers in your part of the world who can't give you some kind of help. There has got to be a way of doing what you need to do to fix your red car without destroying a piece of Porsche history. PLEASE! Think hard about this before you break out the sawzall.

Posted by: Brent Feb 8 2005, 02:19 AM

There's alot of speculation that the pink is one of a kind. Didn't I read somewhere here there are members who use to sell PORSCHE in the 70's? Can they chime in and given a more subjective opinion to keep a historical car alive? Is there a historic contact within Porsche North America that can supply one with info. Or how about some old timer thats been at Porsche since he was like 16 washing cars on the lots...these guys could be a goldmine of info, or BS.

What ever you do, don't cut your ties with the "family". If you aren't familiar with Rick, his Alien Porsche 8 conversion is a piece of art (I have plenty of memories/pics form the last WCC) and a great resource to others here. Don't cut off your nose despite your face, bud.

Its not like the pink is frickin Mary K, it looks to me more like a Fushia, or closely bordering red.

I do hear your sence of urgency, you need a daily driver. Listen to the wisdom ...you've stumbled on to something big.

Again, IMHO.
-Brent, Cali

Posted by: MJHanna Feb 8 2005, 07:12 AM

I've got 2 parts cars. I'll give you either one of them or both. Their in TX

one of them is even red.
come get either one just don"t jack with the pink one....

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 8 2005, 07:21 AM

the name's britt..as short for britton. I'll keep you all posted. Color code 78. Mueller, the longs are toast in the pink car. It's a okay parts car, but I wouldnt trust the longs man. if anybody wants the car, $650. Come and get it tonite. Damn guys. The acution was on eBay for 4/7 days it seems that nobody bid $400 for it and when I made the offer they said fine. i'm not liek some of these people that will just let a parts car go to hell. If i tell you all it will get a proper restoration, it will get one. Brent, you need to see this in person. Hello, it's been repainted red anyway. The student at Cornell Univ didn't want his/her precious 914 to be HOT HOT PINK. Brent, what family? This family? Come on guys. The red car was a daily driver, i dont have any money to buy another car. My dad could buy one and i pay him back, but my mom would shit a brick (almost literally) there are alot of circumstances in my family that prevent me from getting another car right now. Mark the 914ers are numbered 2 that are even semi-alive. Me and Greg(bgman from the bird forum). He hasnt returned calls or been online since November '04. I saw the auction and called on it. The car will soon get a restoration. I've already been looking for a new 2.0 for the 73.

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 8 2005, 07:32 AM

QUOTE (MJHanna @ Feb 8 2005, 05:12 AM)
one of them is even red.
come get either one just don"t jack with the pink one....

ordinarily i would be like alright! lets do this. But on a map were like 6 inches or more apart. bowling green and louisville are like maybe a centimeter or less apart. If it takes my 2 hours to get to my college, it would take me months to get to yours. It's simple logistics. I have a "restorable" car now and it didnt take $800 or more to ship. Least money possible and the closest to me. Barbourville was it. I'll keep you posted. if anybody wants the pink car, i'll help you get it onto a car dolly. I'm not trying to piss you all off, i just want to fix my car and have a project too. that's all i want. if you all want the car, somebody here in the family take the car.

Posted by: scotty b Feb 8 2005, 08:43 AM

I'm trying to figure how to get down to you. Ihave a parts car with a perfect front clip that I could bring down and trade you for pinky, but i just can't figure out how right now. I just started another car and am leaving for Wyoming for a week on the 18. If you want to do this let me know. If I have to I will clip it and ship the clip,but then there is the problem of getting pinky back here (Virginia) I just want to save that car and your life, and keep Rick out of jail

Posted by: silver2.0 Feb 8 2005, 09:25 AM

I have a suggestion- and this is what I did when I found out that unrestored 914's make shitty daily drivers. Buy a little honda crx, mr2, 240sx, or whatever for 1500 bucks. Then, take your time, and fix your red 914 properly. Just a suggestion

Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 8 2005, 09:45 AM

I 'm never confrontational on the Board. I made that statement for a reason. This is flat text. It's hard to express passion in flat text. If you truely have a passion for the 914 you will understand. Otherwise fine a car that inspires you and sell the pink car and the wreck. Personally, I wouldn't fix the wreck. I owned a collision shop for 20 years, I had a Cellette fixure bench in my shop. The 914 front is very stout. With that much damage the front suspension mount points need to be fixured to insure safe and proper alignment.

I know where a parts car is up here as well. It's even red! I have spare lids in my garage. I have a trailer and a truck to tow it. But I can't take time off right now to travel. Back away from the pink car with the sawsall buddy! Someone on the board will give you the $ 650.00 you want.

McMark, Post the pictures of what the doner car looked like after you cut the front off! It's not pretty, and in 99.9999 % of the time it's not reversible.

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 8 2005, 11:17 AM

when the wreck happened, i made it perfectly clear that parts would be covered by me. Everything i found was not in my budget. the structure is still sound, i looked the red car over very well. The pink car was perfect. The roller project will need to be put on hold for a bit. It will recieve a fine treatment of a sheltered life for the time being while i finish the red car. the red car has been restored with lots of $$(thanks dad) and time. 2 years, but i must say I love the 914. It's not the problems, or the timing issues or finding parts...it's about the learnign experience and the community, as well as the feeling you get driving the car. I did have a car you all mentioned--i had a 94 Jeep Wrangler....get-in-and-drive. But, whenever i looked at the 914, something wanted me to drive it. So the point came to earn a little cash and my brother go the jeep and I recieved a thorough inspection and tune-up by both Porsche mechanics and a VW mechanic, whom both say that the red car is a fine looking 914. According to both, I am the only 914er who visits either people, both qualified to work on these cars. Watch what you say about my body guy, he's a fine person, and spent a long time doing all kinds of cars. He doesn't skip corners, not with someone he knows personally anyway. i'm goign to restore this pink car .....i just need lots of info. I need the engine size for this car (1.7 or 2.0) with VIN: 4732905940.

Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 8 2005, 06:02 PM

Glad to see you've come to your senses. If I hadn't just applied for a new position within the company I work for I'd deliver the front half of a red 1972 and some spare lids I have here. I've been looking for a car to rebuild stock. I didn't see the car on ebay.
Do some research on the car. Pay the $ 90.00 for the factory document thing. That tells you what, when, where, and how.

Posted by: jd74914 Feb 8 2005, 07:37 PM

It would be really cool to have that kind of piece of 914 history restored.

Posted by: redshift Feb 8 2005, 08:08 PM

Most of the paint to match 914s were just other Porsche colors, that car was made for a barbie/pepto bismol commercial..... mikez needs it.

M

Posted by: markb Feb 9 2005, 12:04 AM

QUOTE (jd74914 @ Feb 8 2005, 05:37 PM)

It would be really cool to have that kind of piece of 914 history restored.

Posted by: Brent Feb 9 2005, 02:25 AM

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 8 2005, 05:21 AM)
Brent, what family? This family? Come on guys.

Rick said...in his best Corleone vernacular..."you would be dead to me"....

I will now refer to Rick as Don Rick. I for one am not as passionate as some, but I understand all sides. Best of luck on this one. No more stirring shit for me.

Posted by: GWN7 Feb 9 2005, 03:44 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4525596483&category=6430&sspagename=WDVW is one that has all the parts you need and is only 95 miles from you.

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 9 2005, 07:10 AM

damn...that one is like real close too. just spent my money on parts to upgrade my mac

Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 9 2005, 07:55 AM

Now that's a parts car!

Posted by: kafermeister Feb 9 2005, 08:02 AM

bd1308, are you going to bid on it? I haven't given the wife a reason to yell at me this week.

R

Posted by: scotty b Feb 9 2005, 08:30 AM

I hope you still aren't planning on using the pink clip and keeping the car as you stated previously. As another member pointed out you will have to cut the vin out of the pink car with the clip, thus ruining any value the car may have. I know because I did a car hit almost exactly like yours 3 years ago, and we had to cut the donor through the gas tank well. We are all just trying to help you keep from making a mistake that we have all made at one time or another. I myself kick my own ass every day thinking about some of the PARTS that I have tossed. I am now a pack rat In the end it is your car and you will do as you wish. We just don't want you to get to antsy about fixing the red car and make a mistake.

Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 9 2005, 08:53 AM

QUOTE (scotty b @ Feb 9 2005, 06:30 AM)
I hope you still aren't planning on using the pink clip and keeping the car as you stated previously. As another member pointed out you will have to cut the vin out of the pink car with the clip, thus ruining any value the car may have. I know because I did a car hit almost exactly like yours 3 years ago, and we had to cut the donor through the gas tank well. We are all just trying to help you keep from making a mistake that we have all made at one time or another. I myself kick my own ass every day thinking about some of the PARTS that I have tossed. I am now a pack rat In the end it is your car and you will do as you wish. We just don't want you to get to antsy about fixing the red car and make a mistake.

If I bid on the white car and win it, will you trade me for the pink car?

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 9 2005, 09:14 AM

naw man...i'm gonna restore the pink car as mentioned before. thx anyway........it's a father-son project...with my father. I dont think the world will ever be ready for another Britt

should i restore the pink 914 first or restore my dad's 79 Vette.....