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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Just arrived in the garage: 1971 914-4 1.7

Posted by: raynekat Feb 11 2015, 07:22 PM

Bought a 71 1.7 liter today.

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Car is in relatively good shape as far as I can tell.
Likely some hell hole and rear portion of the back trunk rust repair needed, but appears to be minor.
Time will tell.

My current plans are to get the fuel system and FI sorted out (me).
It cranks over, but doesn't start.
Then go through the brakes from stem to stern (PMB).
After that....drive it.

The original color is light ivory, but has had a repaint in pearl white years ago.
Will get the body work done and do a proper respray.
I've already got a set of 15x6.5" Minilites to install.
The suspension will get a good going over....likely Elephant Racing setup.
Re-do the interior with a more supportive driver's seat.
Refreshed gauges (Hollywood Speedo) in 356 fashion.
Double wrapped RS steering wheel.
GT lightwt door panels.

Eventually, a bigger four will power the car.
Would like to keep it all 4 cylinder for the time being.
I've already got a 911 sitting in the garage that tics all the 911 boxes off.

I'll keep a log of the progress here with pics.
This is a big, big project.....no doubt.

Posted by: Big Len Feb 11 2015, 07:25 PM

I like the pearl!! Best of luck with it.

Post more pics when you can (I love pics).

Posted by: TargaToy Feb 11 2015, 09:16 PM

Beautiful car, man! Congrats!!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 11 2015, 09:45 PM

Congratulations and it seems like you have a nice plan.

Posted by: wndsnd Feb 11 2015, 09:54 PM

Nice car!

John

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Posted by: Mueller Feb 11 2015, 10:44 PM

Nice...the Panasports are going to look great!

Posted by: cary Feb 11 2015, 10:45 PM

http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/idle.htm

Bedside reading ....................
Coming tomorrow night?

Posted by: PanelBilly Feb 11 2015, 11:14 PM

Where'd you find the car? Looks good from here

Posted by: Montreal914 Feb 11 2015, 11:37 PM

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Good looking 914! For what you plan being a big big project, seems like a very good start. smile.gif

...And from the looks of it, you might have been infected by with our disease... assimilate.gif

As you probably know, plenty of good support on this forum. aktion035.gif

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Posted by: raynekat Feb 12 2015, 10:10 PM

Well....starting looking at what I have a little closer today.
Very solid car for a '71.
But I think it spent most of its life in California....so I'm hoping very little rust.

I do see a new rear floor in the rear trunk.
Right now it's all painted black, so I'm sure there's rust issues there.
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Also see the corners of the front windshield will need a little work as I see rust stains in the front trunk up under the dash. Nothing horrible, but it will definitely need to be addressed.

I've been told by the previous owner that the hell looks good except for a small quarter size hole that's already been repaired. I'll improve upon it.


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Posted by: raynekat Feb 12 2015, 10:12 PM

You're seeing some of the Euro lens that came on the car.
Front and rear nice.




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Posted by: raynekat Feb 12 2015, 10:14 PM

So far all the rubber is like Kryptonite....or maybe granite is a better descriptor.
I'll be getting all new rubber for the car obviously.

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Posted by: raynekat Feb 12 2015, 10:22 PM

Some more pics of the exterior.

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Posted by: raynekat Feb 12 2015, 10:26 PM

Or interior....

Wow....it's difficult to add pics to this thread.

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Posted by: raynekat Feb 12 2015, 10:28 PM

My plans are to do these instruments....

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Ala 356 style.

Posted by: raynekat Feb 12 2015, 10:31 PM

And these kind of seats...

Probably go identical driver/passenger later style 914.
GT type.
With the cool green tartan plaid.
And just carpet the rear firewall....cause my firewall upholstery is kind of old and mucked up.

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hey....I'm getting better at adding these pics into the thread. Nice....

Posted by: raynekat Feb 12 2015, 10:36 PM

I'll do a set of the cool fiberglass/balsa wood front and rear deck lids from Aase just to keep the car light weight.

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Along with the two toned front bumper.

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Posted by: raynekat Feb 12 2015, 10:41 PM

So I'm thinking about a narrow body GT that is still all 914-4.

Later will come a nice 901 with limited slip and some good gear ratios.

And a nice big block 4 cylinder....something in the range of 2.5-2.8 that is either carbed or FI'd with a good header going thru a Phase 9 muffler.

Engine will be done by either Jake Raby or Fat Performance (any thoughts in either way?) looking at around 175hp.




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Posted by: raynekat Feb 12 2015, 10:43 PM

I love this car....


How close I get to it remains to be seen.
It's pretty radical.
I'd like a nice fun street driver.

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Posted by: raynekat Feb 12 2015, 10:51 PM

I've just bought these wheels....

They are Minilites at 6.5x15 size.
I'll put a good sticky, hi po street tire on it.

These cars give me inspiration.... for sure.

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Posted by: raynekat Feb 12 2015, 10:56 PM

Just lookin' to build a killer 4 cylinder 914 that is factory race look.

I'll show you what I've got in mind over the coming months.

BTW....this was my attempt with a 911.

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Posted by: jmz Jun 8 2016, 05:54 AM

I love it Doug!! We're on the same page here. I'm just further down the road in many respects but too far in others. ...I have to make mine a little more touring and a bit less racing.



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Posted by: jmz Jun 8 2016, 06:07 AM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Feb 12 2015, 11:43 PM) *

I love this car....


How close I get to it remains to be seen.
It's pretty radical.
I'd like a nice fun street driver.

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ME TOO! I kind of hope I can tone mine that I just bought down towards something close to this.

Posted by: mepstein Jun 8 2016, 08:50 AM

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My plans are to do these instruments....

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Ala 356 style.

I've planned to do a green gauge car for a while. Great choice! Unfortunately, not cheap.

Posted by: mepstein Jun 8 2016, 08:56 AM

The early cars are my favorites. I'd like to figure out a cable shift for the tail shifter.

Posted by: SKL1 Jun 8 2016, 11:26 PM

Gotta love '71's! Had mine since new... looks pretty "stock" but has had MANY mods over the years! Probably best is conversion to side shifter with a Rennshift and OEM 914-6 suspension and brake upgrade to 5 bolt and Fuchs. Luckily I did that back in the mid '70's when you find all the parts pretty easily.


BTW, love the Minilites!!

Posted by: jack20 Jun 8 2016, 11:49 PM

I guess I'm the only reader who noticed the Vespa against the wall in picture #1. 150, GS...?
I like the 356 instrument idea. Aren't they a bit smaller than the OEM for the 914?

Posted by: raynekat Jun 10 2016, 10:50 PM

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I guess I'm the only reader who noticed the Vespa against the wall in picture #1. 150, GS...?
I like the 356 instrument idea. Aren't they a bit smaller than the OEM for the 914?


It's actually a P125X (1982) that I restored a couple of years ago. Upgraded the engine to a 165cc with a 1969 Camaro color (Hugger Orange) and everything works. Yeah it needs some air in the back tire.

Fun ride but scary above 45mph with those really small wheels (10"). I've actually got a 1962 VNB to restore as well with 8" wheels....wow.

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Posted by: raynekat Jun 10 2016, 11:04 PM

So Cary picked up my chassis this past week, and he'll begin working on it after the 4th as he's still finishing up on Mark's car.

The car has been hit in the back so needs a new rear end and rear trunk floor. Also the back portions of the floor pans will need replacing....likely the rear window was leaking as the gasket was as hard as a brick back there.

Both jack plates need replacing but the "longs" look good as does the hell hole. Further digging by Cary will either confirm or refute this.

In addition, there is some corrosion in the cowl area where the windshield spacers were along the lower part....if that makes sense.

Otherwise, a pretty good chassis.

Cary will show some pics as he attacks this car with his usual fervor.

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Posted by: raynekat Jun 10 2016, 11:18 PM

So I spent most of 2015....here and there....tearing the car completely apart.
I was out of the country from Jan-Apr 2016, so haven't had that much time to work on the car.

But I have been going through some of the different subsystems and refreshing or buying NOS or better used parts than I currently had.

For instance....

Had some of the hardware replated by Shaun of Tru6 from the Early 911 S Registry.
Artful work he does if that's what you want....and I did.

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I've got another big batch going to his soon.
He does both the yellow and clear zinc coating.
Perfection for sure...


Posted by: raynekat Jun 10 2016, 11:25 PM

I sourced a 2.4 T MFI motor from Australia of all places.
The engine originally came from the US.
Supposedly low miles....yada yada.
Not so sure about that, but it had the 7R case and all the MFI components.
So I was in.
Real adventure shipping it from Australia to the US.
Took about 6 months by boat, tough to get all the paperwork done, customs, EPA, you name it.
A royal PITA...but it finally arrived by plane from LA into Portland.

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Posted by: raynekat Jun 10 2016, 11:33 PM

Of course, you'd have to have the mouse nest sitting on top of the cylinders to be complete.

And the dead mouse as well.

Guess he got free shipping and airfare around the globe a couple of times.
Air miles?

Good thing we didn't try to fire this engine up.
Would have ran hot for sure.

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Posted by: raynekat Jun 10 2016, 11:42 PM

MFI requires a CDI unit, so I sourced a used one that was unknown condition.

Out to Parts Klassic it went.
All the ancient electronics were removed and replaced by modern solid state electronics.
Bought their matching coil and wiring harness made for Pertronix ignition.

The hope is for better reliability and performance/starting manners.

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Posted by: raynekat Jun 10 2016, 11:49 PM

NOS lens and reflectors off of Ebay Germany with some fresh paint and replating of hardware made the driving lights looks much better.

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Posted by: cary Jul 6 2016, 11:26 PM

The day has finally come to start on Doug's car. Best we can tell it's a pretty solid car. But we won't know the truth until all the paint comes off.

The parts that are here on site were unloaded and labeled.

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Initial list :

1. Replace rear tail light panel with donor.
2. Replace rear half of trunk floor. With removable heat shield
3. Install 6 motor mount
4. Cut out holes for 6 oil tank
5. Replace back portion of floorboard
6. Make passenger seat adjustable like later cars
7. Install fiberglass wood framed GT hoods
8. Make minor seal channel rust repairs on both doors.
9. See if we can do some rust repairs on both valances

Plan is to have the car stripped here on site. History has it, the list will probably get a little longer after it's stripped.

So time to dive in the deep end. I take a few minutes to survey the donor tail light panel. The rusted off trunk panel is a little concerning at first glance.

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Here's why we're changing out the tail light panel and the rear half of trunk.

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The rusty old trunk came out/off without any issues.
Added 7/7/2106

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So on to removing the qtr. panel corners. Once again I'm using Rick's grind down and pop off spot weld removal technique. I've given it my own twist. To eliminate as much damage as I can to the piece/panel we're going to reuse. I cut down the welds on the side that will be discarded with the 3" die grinder on a mandrel. Like so ...............

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I did drill an 1/8" hole in each spot weld to make sure I didn't miss any spot welds. This section is 3 layers thick in places.

Once again, to eliminate potential damage I take things out in 2-3 inches sections. You can see the remaining section of the rusty old trunk floor next to the support.

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At the end of the day it came out relatively easy. A couple nicks, cuts and tears to weld up. But it's in good shape.

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Tomorrow I'll get out the steam cleaner and get all the grease cleaned off. Then maybe I'll blast the paint off. That will be followed by getting the torch out to remove the corner tail light brazing.

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Posted by: cary Jul 6 2016, 11:33 PM

Plan is to work on Doug's car thru the end of next week. I'm off for 2 weeks while my new boss takes a 2 week vacation in France. He'll be watching some of our engines and transmission perform at the Le mans Classic.

After that I'll work 2-3 days per week on one car. Then 2-3 days the next week on the other car. Basically working 20 hours per week at my shop and 24 at Rothsport.

Posted by: Frankvw Jul 7 2016, 12:27 AM

that replated hardware pics...a spot-the-difference puzzle :-)
really cool pics and took some time to create, I guess that was your way of checking that all was there after the replating. Otherwise you have some disorder to do that :-) nice job !

Posted by: raynekat Jul 7 2016, 01:09 AM

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that replated hardware pics...a spot-the-difference puzzle :-)
really cool pics and took some time to create, I guess that was your way of checking that all was there after the replating. Otherwise you have some disorder to do that :-) nice job !


Actually the "plater project manager" did that.
I think it was his way of keeping track of all the parts so none were lost.
You're right tho....fun set of pics.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 7 2016, 06:51 AM

Excellent thread. I like what I see so far.

Posted by: mepstein Jul 7 2016, 09:41 AM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Jul 7 2016, 03:09 AM) *

QUOTE(Frankvw @ Jul 6 2016, 11:27 PM) *

that replated hardware pics...a spot-the-difference puzzle :-)
really cool pics and took some time to create, I guess that was your way of checking that all was there after the replating. Otherwise you have some disorder to do that :-) nice job !


Actually the "plater project manager" did that.
I think it was his way of keeping track of all the parts so none were lost.
You're right tho....fun set of pics.

A lot of the better plating shops do before and after pics just to make sure every thing matches up inventory wise. Our parts may be cheap but some other project parts are unibtanium.

Posted by: cary Jul 7 2016, 09:17 PM

I decide its time to start using the plasma cutter for the cutting tasks its designed for.
Steve, one of my co-workers at Rothsport said changing the tip every time you use it is the primary issue I've been having. Easy Deal ....................

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Big bite .........................

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I discover that a portion of the tow hook brace is missing on the donor panel. I'll need to cut it off the original tail light panel piece.

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There's a couple wicked welds were the tube is welded to the support frame. I'll have to see if I can delicately cut them out with new plasma cutting skills.

Posted by: cary Jul 7 2016, 09:41 PM

Then on to removing the exhaust shield from the old trunk panel.

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Then I discover that the last person that removed the exhaust shield didn't have a MIG welder. The supports were brazed to the bottom of the trunk panel.
So they have to be separated with a torch.

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Get that done and then run the stand offs thru the bead blaster. They'll need a little refurbishing.

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Then I decide that the exhaust shield needs to be taken outside and sand blasted. It's filthy. Covered in oil and dirt.

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After the dirt and oil are removed it looks like its been beat on with a hammer.

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I did remove all the odds and ends off the old tail light panel. You never know what one might need in the future.

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Posted by: cary Jul 7 2016, 10:09 PM

We did extract the other hole plug. Have the template ready to go.
I think I'll pick up the compass gadget for the plasma cutter.

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Posted by: cary Jul 11 2016, 09:50 PM

Monday AM :

Pulled out the torch cart and started with the remainder of the left tail light panel.

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The car had been hit in the rear and been poorly repaired on the past. The entire tail light panel was brazed in, not welded.

Then started working my way around the remainder of the trunk panel.

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Then on to removing the center reinforcement panel.

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Making my way into the right corner. We're finding the inner fender above the trunk panel is pretty wrinkled on both sides.

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I may look at cutting both back corners out of my parts car. We need the fender support straps too.

End of the day ......................... got farther than I thought I would.

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Doug stopped by to check on the progress and go out to lunch.

Posted by: raynekat Jul 11 2016, 10:12 PM

Nice job Cary.
You're developing "mad" skills as they say.
Mostly patience....which I would be in low supply I think.
Thanks for your great work.

Posted by: cary Jul 12 2016, 10:40 PM

Came in this am and did some more examining of the wrinkles in the trunk corners and some magnetic testing on the qtr. panels.

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While I'm digesting my research I begin removing the corner braces and refurnishing them.
This time I run into lead and brazing.

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After finishing the corner braces I move onto the exhaust stand offs. Three or four needed some welding, but pretty simple stuff. All drilled and ready for welding on the nuts in the am.

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I decided before I start cutting on the trunk I'll sand down the back corners of the qtr. panels to check the less than stellar previous workmanship. From the inside of the fender it feels like the previous shop didn't own a hammer and dolly. mad.gif Which means we have quite a bit of filler. Lazy ........... But only dimples, no creases.
Mark stopped by so I ran out of time and sunshine .................

Super In Law finished up the rack and we filled it up.

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We'll need to create a wall racks for the valances. They're too wide. But other than that it turned out great.

Posted by: cary Jul 13 2016, 09:37 PM

Short day ...................spent the am at Rothsport doing a little housekeeping.

Got there after an early lunch and rolled her outside for some media blasting.
Looks like we'll be needing a couple lower back qtr. panel corners.

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Mud in the dimples ....................

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Right side, not much better.

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Filled with mud, rather than repairing.

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Better shot of how rippled the left fender is.

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Now that I can see the entirety of the inside corners I think I should be able to doctor them up. I'll start with hammer and dolly and see if we can make them presentable.
In the end they get completely smothered in seam sealer.

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I'll let Doug look for some qtr. panel patches and I'll get back to the trunk and tail light panel.
Edit : Forgot we can cut the right one off my parts car. Left was butchered for a flare install that never happened.

Posted by: raynekat Jul 14 2016, 12:58 AM

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I'll let Doug look for some qtr. panel patches and I'll get back to the trunk and tail light panel.


Bummer Dude.....you've got mail. smile.gif

Posted by: cary Jul 15 2016, 08:33 AM

Start the day with trimming the trunk panel. Not an exact cut. I leave about 1/4 too long.

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Then I give it a test fit.
Left seems about like normal.

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Right side, not so much. Giant hole.
Poorly done repair.

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I make the decision that cutting the same section out of my parts car is the best answer. Creating the bottom lip would take too long.

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Cut it out large. Then took it to the bench and removed the trunk floor portion.
Trimmed off the top.

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Short episode of Tool Whore. My new full size helmet. Oh baby ................
Everything I'd hope it would be. No interference from the flood lights.

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Posted by: cary Jul 15 2016, 09:06 AM

Feel asleep while writing the post.
Early start and a great time with the guys at our monthly Burgers & Beer gathering.

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So in goes the patch after the usual fiddling and fussing. Trim, grind, repeat. Trim, grind, repeat. Had to make extra cuts to reshape the existing panel. They hammered the crap out of it.

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After I finish welding in the patch. Here's the next challenge.

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Going to try something a little different with welding in the sides of the trunk pan this time. Rosette welds on the front portion. Then in the back where we have the gap. Instead of rebuilding them I'll bend/fold them over and tack weld the top edge.
Once again, they'll be smothered in seam seam.

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Doug asked last night if we'd be better off looking for another car. My response. These cars are 50 years and weren't cherished in their early lives. Pretty certain most every car will have some issues. X-ray vision would be nice, so you could see under the paint and seam sealer.

What a dumbass ...................... I have Doug surfing the web looking for fenders and I have what we need hanging on the rack. We're only going to use the front portion of Mark's qtrs. on his car.

Posted by: cary Jul 15 2016, 11:23 PM

Here's a shot of the buggered up tail light panel frame.

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Finish welding in the donor patch.

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Then I do some tinkering on the back end of the qtr. panel. They hammered out the crease. sad.gif . Why ?
Might be changing it out too ...............

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Then I test fit the tail light panel. Other than bottom portions on both sides, it fits real well.

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Next I cut out the trunk panel for the pan plugs.

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Doug stopped by after lunch to drop of the hoods. 2 old metal ones. And the new fiberglass rear trunk. Cool
He ordered me a new exhaust shield. The other is too bent up. Who knows
Seeings that this will be his touring car. He's looking at having the shield ceramic coated to keep the heat down in the trunk.
Sent Mark an email about using the back half of the his qtr. panels hanging in the rack.

Posted by: raynekat Jul 19 2016, 08:32 PM

Just got back my newly recovered steering wheel from Autobahn Interiors.
Did the double wrap in leather.
Pricey but "oh-so nice."
They found that part of the wheel had been broken in the past so there was some welding repair necessary that is all hidden by the new grip.

Also just received from Hungary (less than 10 day shipping) a nice Hockey Puck reproduction that really looks great for the money.
Total of $170 (plus shipping which wasn't bad).
Got it off the "Bird" from a guy named Antony.
Easy transaction (Paypal I think) and received the item pretty quick.

Will definitely dress up the interior of the car when complete....

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Posted by: raynekat Jul 20 2016, 12:56 PM

Latest craziness.....
Re-flocking the glove box.
Why do this? I guess the best answer is because you (or I) can....
Turned out great with very little effort.

A business opportunity for moi? welder.gif

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Posted by: raynekat Jul 20 2016, 06:08 PM

More fiddling today.
Tried the new Tn1-Tn2 yellow lens.
Look pretty sharp.
Will be a tough decision when the time comes to mount them....clear or yellow?
Might alternate yearly....

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 20 2016, 08:50 PM

Man you are moving right along. Terrific work.

I may have to look up the hockey puck guy....really want one of those on my car. OK - I sent him a PM on the Bird and told him I want one and sent him my info. A moment of weakness....

OH BTW, really love the yellow foglight lenses.

Posted by: raynekat Jul 20 2016, 10:24 PM

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Man you are moving right along. Terrific work.

I may have to look up the hockey puck guy....really want one of those on my car. OK - I sent him a PM on the Bird and told him I want one and sent him my info. A moment of weakness....

OH BTW, really love the yellow foglight lenses.


The yellow is looking good as you say.
On a white car, they might be really nice.
Depends on how much I will really use them...or not.
The clear ones ought to work as driving/fog lamps where the yellow will be fog only.
How much fog will I really be driving in?

Like I said, it might be an annual change out for a different look each year.

Posted by: cary Jul 23 2016, 09:51 AM

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Re-flocking the glove box.
A business opportunity for moi?

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Based on Earl's reaction when I pulled the nice glove box out of the 964 rally car project I'd say yes. But do it for all models. Bigger base.
I'd add your hand painting of the heater controls too. Then you could stretch it a little further. Disassemble the heater control and have everything replated. That too could be stretched across all models.

Both of these could be done world wide .................... Not going to keep you gainfully employed. But it would keep you off the golf course. beerchug.gif

Heading out to put a 1/2 day in on your car. I'll cut out the other inside trunk corner on the parts car and start looking at the seat belt packet cut out.



Posted by: cary Jul 24 2016, 06:29 PM

Here is the left inside trunk corner cut out from the parts car.

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Here's the ugly, over hammered and bumpy section I'm cutting out.

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After some measuring, trimming, fiddling and fitting. Its ready to weld in on Thursday.

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Posted by: cary Jul 24 2016, 06:37 PM

As I was working on the inside of the trunk. Super In Law went to work on repairing the butchered up tow hook framework.

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He's building the extension rather than cutting up the other cut out tow hook.

Posted by: raynekat Jul 28 2016, 06:16 PM

Some other back burner items getting finished while Cary works on the metal work.

The fan/shroud from the 2.4 MFI T motor.
Years of decay and corrosion.
Some nicks and chips in the blades.
Etc, etc.

Sent them out to Mark Motshagen for refurbishment.
The end result is quite stunning.

So.....

THE BEFORE:

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Posted by: raynekat Jul 28 2016, 06:22 PM

THE AFTER:

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All new plating and rivets on the center pulley section.
He repairs the chipped vanes and refinishes it all.
Then out for what I believe is some kind of ceramic coating....it's not powder coated.
This is much, much better.
More durable and to my eye, much nicer looking.
Is it concours? Not at all, but I'm not doing a concours restoration.
More of an R Gruppe improvement or hot rod.

The fan is a dark charcoal gray and the housing is done in black as many of the 911 motorsport engines were done.
Combined with a nice amber fan shroud by Damon @900 Series...should look great
with the rest of the refinished MFI accoutrement (my $50 word for the day).

Enjoy

Posted by: Gmanscott55 Jul 28 2016, 07:44 PM

WOW... Looks fantastic. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: cary Jul 28 2016, 10:46 PM

Back to the task at hand.

Welded in the left inside trunk corner. Fit real nice.

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I added back in/on the tail of the inner fender portion.

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Then I welded on the tow hook extension that Super In Law created on Friday.

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90 degrees in the shop with all the lights off, and the doors closed


Posted by: raynekat Jul 29 2016, 09:41 AM

Last hot day today. Back to cooler temps after that. Sounds like the shop needs a swamp cooler?

Posted by: cary Jul 29 2016, 09:13 PM

Still hot ..................90 degrees when we left at 5pm.

Started the day with grinding down the inside trunk corner patches. After the grinding and sanding was finished I coated them with cold galvanizing.

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While cold galvanizing was drying I sprayed down the trunk support panel with OSPHO. Getting it ready for a rub down with a red scour pad and an application of cold galvanizing.

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Posted by: cary Jul 29 2016, 09:46 PM

Then went after trimming down the trunk panel somemore. Reinstalled the taillight panel to check all the edges. I won't install the taillight panel until we change out the back end of the qtr. panels. Don't want to get the cart ahead of the horse ...............

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After fitting the trunk panel I decided I'll do a complete extension of corners. The panel is just a bit short in the corners. More to come tomorrow..........

Then onto the inside tie in portion of the tub that welds to the taillight panel. Doug's was squished and over hammered. The ones off the parts car were rotten.

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Left side ................... Buckle needed to be cut open and the edge straighten.

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Right side ............... pretty messed up.

Left side all tidied up with my electric glue gun.

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Sorry for the sideways .....................

Then onto the right side repair. Super In Law created the patch piece last Friday.

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Posted by: cary Jul 29 2016, 09:53 PM

After extending trunk panel I'll start on the delicate patching of the cowl and windshield frame.

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Posted by: cary Jul 30 2016, 11:14 PM

Began with cutting the right corner of the trunk panel to create the extension needed to fill out the corner.

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Basically cut it right in front of the vertical flange. This will allow me to swing the vertical portion out to the wall were it needs to be.

This is the extension needed to get the correct fit.

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I use numerous shapes and sizes of brass backers to assist in welding in the large gaps/areas.

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Here is the finished work. Before and after grinding.

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You don't need to get too carried away with grinding. Most of the new extension will be covered with seam sealer.


















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Posted by: cary Jul 30 2016, 11:22 PM

The left corner needs a larger extension. But with enough brass bcakers it all works out.

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I'll post the work and findings on the left windshield frame/cowl rust tomorrow night.
Heading to PIR early in the am. Rothsport has five car running in the event.
I'll meet up with Doug at the race track .............................





Posted by: cary Aug 1 2016, 08:09 AM

While I was expanding the trunk floor Super In Law was cutting some pieces for the right window cowl.

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He created what we thought we would need.

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But after I cut open the top portion all I found was Bondo. sad.gif

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These are shots after Bondo was dug out.

Talked to Doug at PIR before I posted the pictures. Not exactlty what we thought we'd be looking at. He'll get a windshield cowl coming from DC.

A couple more shots. I'm hoping with the new cowl I can save us from removing the fender.

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Here's Jeff Hail's work on his car.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=76791&hl=dead&st=240
Starts at Post #262

Off to 3 day's of rally car prep at Rothsport. I'll be back on Thursday night.

Posted by: cary Aug 6 2016, 10:00 AM

Yesterday was a short day at the shop. Time for the every other year oil change on the 911. Mobil One V-Twin. Plus I installed the Rothsport oil tank check valve.
http://www.rothsport.com/Products/Engine/Oil-Inlet-Check-Valves/Oil-Inlet-Check-Valves.htm

Doug stopped by to drop off the fiberglass front hood to put into safe storage and the new to us exhaust heat shield (DC). I'll get the heat shield sand blasted and reworked with my removal set up. I think then Doug plans on having it ceramic coatied for heat dissipation.

Posted by: porschetub Aug 6 2016, 10:09 PM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Jul 20 2016, 02:32 PM) *

Just got back my newly recovered steering wheel from Autobahn Interiors.
Did the double wrap in leather.
Pricey but "oh-so nice."
They found that part of the wheel had been broken in the past so there was some welding repair necessary that is all hidden by the new grip.

Also just received from Hungary (less than 10 day shipping) a nice Hockey Puck reproduction that really looks great for the money.
Total of $170 (plus shipping which wasn't bad).
Got it off the "Bird" from a guy named Antony.
Easy transaction (Paypal I think) and received the item pretty quick.

Will definitely dress up the interior of the car when complete....

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Nice,notice the embossing of the leather is a little heavier than the leather ones currectly sold on ebay,not sure which is more authentice but I like it.
My wheel isn't quite up to your standard as it needs a repaint,all the $$$ stuff has been done however.
Double rap leather on the wheel is the way to go for sure ...much better grip.

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Posted by: cary Aug 14 2016, 06:56 AM

Looks like Doug's rear qtr. panel sections and windshield cowl will be coming off a donor car I'll be picking up on Thursday morning. I didn't look at the other sections too closely because I was focused on what I need. But both longs look pretty good.

I'm not one to cut into tubs that could be restored. But his car has been hacked up for some sort of V6 conversion.

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California car that has only been up here in Portland a couple years. No rust bubbles in the sail panels either.

Posted by: raynekat Aug 17 2016, 10:13 PM

While Cary continues on with the metal work on the body, I've been working in the background with more of the subsystems.

Just got most of the dash restored.
Frame was painted a nice satin black by the local auto paint shop.
Added some of my own pseudo basket weave for the dash face....same stuff I've put on the door panels.
Hand repainted the fresh air/defrost levers.
Purchased a nice reconditioned Becker Europa II stereo...actually stereo, many are just mono.
Reflected the glovebox....DIY.
Newly refreshed glovebox lock the is rekeyed to match the rest of the car.
Topped off by a new 914 Rubber dash top.
Sneaked in some new switch centers/inserts.
Some of those have come from VW vendors as our cars share a lot with those guys.

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Posted by: raynekat Aug 17 2016, 10:18 PM

In addition, I just received back my newly rebuilt alternator.
Some guy has a buddy through 911 S Registry....yada yada.
Anyway, the alternator reappeared in mint condition.
Cosmetically and functionally.
I had bad diodes, brushes, etc.
All replaced with new bearings plus a cometic restoration as well.

Combined with the restored fan/shroud from an Early S vendor, and that part of the engine is looking brand new.
Shame it will be buried in the engine compartment never to be seen.
Guess I'll just print out a poster sized pic of the finished engine (Rothsport) to put in my man cave. tongue.gif

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Guess I need to post pics of the amber fan shroud the Damon at Series 900 built for me.
Really goes well the the fan/shroud.

Posted by: Mr.Nobody Aug 18 2016, 11:00 AM

Awesome thread so far. Really enjoying all the metal work details. Car is going to be phenomenal when finished.

Posted by: jmz Aug 18 2016, 11:06 AM

Doug, can you share alternator rebuild source? blue car alternator needs service.

Car is going to be AWESOME!

Posted by: raynekat Aug 18 2016, 06:09 PM

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Doug, can you share alternator rebuild source? blue car alternator needs service.

Car is going to be AWESOME!


David with 901.services@gmail.com

I think the bill was something like $250 and they'll check out your voltage regulator as well.
My alternator was pretty old and crusty looking.
Came back looking nearly brand new besides all the refurbishments they did.

Posted by: cary Aug 18 2016, 09:06 PM

Picked up the donor car this am ...............

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This is the first car that I think had spent it's entire life in California. There is no rust in the sail panels. Only two little spots from the foam over the passengers door handle. Front hood has no visible rust under the rolled edge. The front trunk seal channel is bitch'n. But it has fairly aggressive damage from the battery acid.
Rear trunk was cut for the V6. But not removed. So it could be re-welded.

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Doug we got your seat belt retractor pockets too .......................

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Top is going to the dump. Big crack right down the middle.
Extra front end.
We got 3 of the rear wheels.

Posted by: raynekat Aug 23 2016, 12:46 AM

Just put together one of the seat bases after getting everything back from the powder coater and plater...plus using 914 Rubber's seat base bushing kit.

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Everything went smooth excepting the supplied roll pin...just too large to fit in the hole.
So instead I used a tapered pin I found at our local hardware store.
Easier fit by far, and will never come out.

The big problem or puzzle was how to "wind up" the spring so that the tapered pin could be inserted.
Took some "Neanderthal" ingenuity, but I got it done with some help from the wife (need 3 hands for sure).

One more subsystem checked off.

Posted by: jmz Aug 23 2016, 08:57 AM

Looks like you are on your way to building another nice one Doug.

I'm going to have to reach out to you for pointers when I start on the little details with mine.

Cheers,
JZ

Posted by: cary Sep 5 2016, 09:10 PM

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While cold galvanizing was drying I sprayed down the trunk support panel with OSPHO. Getting it ready for a rub down with a red scour pad and an application of cold galvanizing.

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Took a couple minutes and tidied up the OSPHO and gave the panel a layer of cold galvanizing.

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Posted by: raynekat Sep 5 2016, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(cary @ Jul 29 2016, 08:13 PM) *


While cold galvanizing was drying I sprayed down the trunk support panel with OSPHO. Getting it ready for a rub down with a red scour pad and an application of cold galvanizing.

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Took a couple minutes and tidied up the OSPHO and gave the panel a layer of cold galvanizing.

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Can't wait for some new progress on the metal work on my car.....
After Mark's car is done, then it's on to mine.

Posted by: Archie Sep 5 2016, 09:56 PM

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Just lookin' to build a killer 4 cylinder 914 that is factory race look.

I'll show you what I've got in mind over the coming months.

BTW....this was my attempt with a 911.

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My '72 came with the "Porsche" decal on the rocker. Seems to be quite rare?

Posted by: raynekat Sep 22 2016, 08:17 PM

Some of the 911 conversion parts arrived today.
Bit the bullet as I know I would have received a lot of flak for keeping the 914-4 braking system with a 911 engine that will be making around 200hp.
The upside is that I'll be able to take the car to the track....which I wouldn't have done previously.

Pity that I won't be able to use the killer 4 bolt Minilites, but I'm looking at a set of 15x6 deep (ET36) and 15x7R deep (ET49) replica Fuchs from Group 4 Wheels.
I'll get the wheels in bare aluminum and have them refinished in RSR style by these folks: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/888187-fuchs-refinished-high-quality.html
Haven't put the order in for these yet.

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SC Bilstein struts and hubs. Dampers will be changed out for a set of Bilstein HD from Elephant Racing.

911 axles....you can see they are shorter than the 914 ones.
So I'll be doing the Sway-A-Way longer 930 axle conversion.

Trans flanges, 911 stub axles and rear hubs as well. Likely will be replated although they do look good currently.

All this came from Retro Automotive out of New Hampshire.
Very clean and in very good condition.
Can't recommend them enough....

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Posted by: raynekat Oct 5 2016, 10:31 PM

Another big batch of plating is coming back from Shaun @ Tru6 Restoration & Design.
As before, really, really nice work and will make putting the 71 back together a joy when that time comes next year.

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Posted by: Frankvw Oct 6 2016, 12:11 AM

Another great Plater-Picture ! nice work Raynekat. interesting to read the posts/progress.

Posted by: cary Oct 6 2016, 08:11 AM

I hope to be back on it tomorrow.
4 corner brake work and fuel injection install on Mark's car today.

Posted by: cary Oct 15 2016, 09:15 PM

Like always, I ran into a few more issues on Mark's car. sad.gif
Mark's car is not ready to go home yet, but onto Doug's car we go.
The star of the show ..................

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New episode of Tool Whore. I will be purchasing a Snap On PTS1000 for the heavy lifting. It has a dual chuck that allows you to use Sawzall blades with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcCYjl8c3Rw


Posted by: raynekat Oct 16 2016, 12:35 AM

I'm ready to go Cary.....

Posted by: cary Oct 16 2016, 06:46 AM

We need to be thinking about the stripping, I'm thinking the sooner the better.

Then maybe a sit down with the paint shop to talk about how far I go. i.e. primer and body filler. 1st. I don't want to do anything to void the paint job warranty. 2nd. No reason to do something they'll just remove and redo.
Bad money ..............

With the Jan 1st. dead line I think I'll be burning the mid-nite oil a couple nights per week.

I'll get Super In Law (Jack) building a couple more sets of door braces and engineering the new under carriage extension for the rotisserie mounts.
Then I'll move my car to a dolly and we should be good to go.

Dad's Garage had a Jiffy Lube oil change yesterday for the daughters, new to her 2013 Acura TSX, nice car. She said, "Dad, did you know you have nine 914's here right now ?". She proceeded to shoot pictures of each and post them on Snap Chat. Too funny. I hadn't really thought about it.

Posted by: mepstein Oct 16 2016, 07:43 AM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Sep 22 2016, 10:17 PM) *

Some of the 911 conversion parts arrived today.
Bit the bullet as I know I would have received a lot of flak for keeping the 914-4 braking system with a 911 engine that will be making around 200hp.
The upside is that I'll be able to take the car to the track....which I wouldn't have done previously.

Pity that I won't be able to use the killer 4 bolt Minilites, but I'm looking at a set of 15x6 deep (ET36) and 15x7R deep (ET49) replica Fuchs from Group 4 Wheels.
I'll get the wheels in bare aluminum and have them refinished in RSR style by these folks: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/888187-fuchs-refinished-high-quality.html
Haven't put the order in for these yet.

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SC Bilstein struts and hubs. Dampers will be changed out for a set of Bilstein HD from Elephant Racing.

911 axles....you can see they are shorter than the 914 ones.
So I'll be doing the Sway-A-Way longer 930 axle conversion.

Trans flanges, 911 stub axles and rear hubs as well. Likely will be replated although they do look good currently.

All this came from Retro Automotive out of New Hampshire.
Very clean and in very good condition.
Can't recommend them

We got some 7R & 6 deep w/hearts, replica wheels from group 4. It took one of my guys many many hours to sand and polish the finish before they were usable. They come very rough. Don't be surprised if your refinisher charges you $$$ to do the job.

Posted by: cary Oct 20 2016, 09:25 PM

Ran to Clackamas first thing and picked up the new Snap-On air saw. By the time we stopped for lunch we didn't get to the shop till noon, but I hit the ground running.
I've been dreaming of cutting off the tail end of the qtr. panels for a month.

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After the trouble with the trunk seal channels on Mark's car, I scaled back my cut out a bit. In addition both trunks are getting fiberglass with wood frame lids. Which will be quite the challenge to get the fit I want.

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Back to cutting up a perfectly good car.

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I got so engrossed in my work I forgot to shoot a couple before pictures of the parts car. sad.gif
Qtrs cut off. Taillight panel cut away. Because of my needs on the qtr. panels I only salvaged the center section of the taillight panel. Super In Law is working on breaking down the tow hook in case it might be needed for a bumper back date.

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Looks almost like the Pre-Runner truck I'll be driving in Baja. biggrin.gif

Then on to the tedious task of cutting out the seat belt retractor pocket.
This is not for the faint of heat. Very tight work up against the door/targa bar frame.
Primary issue is doing as little damage as possible to the parent material of the pocket area.

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We will save/cut out the bottom half of the firewall at a later date

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That one unseen spot weld gave me fits getting the piece out.

But here she is stripped down and sitting on the work table.

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I'll get after the left side first thing in the am. Then on to the tedious task of unpeeling the onion. Breaking down the multi layered portion, one layer at a time.

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Posted by: cary Oct 22 2016, 12:08 PM

Friday was spent prepping the parts cut out of the donor car. Note : The parts were cut out intentionally large to allow me to work from the backside. This will allow me to do the least amount of damage to the parent material of the part being used on the car.

Step One :
Remove all seam sealer with heat gun and small and medium wood chisel.
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Step Two :
Cut down back side of spot welds with cutter.
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Step Three :
Pop off cut spot welds with small wood chisel
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Engineering Plan :
After all the dust has cleared from the sawing. Determined that the pocket will be trimmed to fit. 1. Top portion will lay on the cross brace and be rosette welded in. 2. If I can, the outer and bottom weld to be lap welded with rosette and seam welds. Most of the busy work will be under the interior back pad.
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Posted by: cary Oct 23 2016, 02:35 PM

Now where was I ? Next I was on to preparing the qtr. panel back corners. After looking at the taillight panel I decided a was going open up the rosette holes on the lower portion. The lower portion of the taillight panel is solid. smile.gif

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The cut out of the taillight portion went well. Did have one drill thru, but all in all, nice. You will find piles of seam sealer up in the inside corner. mad.gif
Next will be blasting it clean. I'll use garnet on the back. I'm thinking I'll try the walnuts I have for the front. See what type of finish it gives me.

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Weapons tray ..............

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Posted by: raynekat Oct 23 2016, 08:03 PM

Because I'm putting a 2.4 MFI engine into the car, certain MFI specific items are needed.

First off, MFI micro filter and console.
New filter, powder coated bracket, freshly yellow zinc plated hardware, new seal gaskets, and misc hardware.

Ready to supply high pressure fuel to the hungry beast....

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Posted by: raynekat Oct 23 2016, 08:05 PM

Next up an MFI specific fuel feed/supply pump.
With freshly powder coated pump bracket.

Again needed for the high pressure fuel needs of an MFI engine.....

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Posted by: raynekat Oct 23 2016, 08:09 PM

From Stoddards, a new high efficiency 914-6 oil cooler.

This was sent to Pacific Oil Cooler to be cleaned and pressure tested.
Considering what the engine will cost to build, this seemed like a smart thing to do.

It's hard to tell by just looking whether or not these oil coolers are good...
For example, the oil cooler that came on the engine actually failed the pressure test even though it looked fine....was going to sell it. Trashed it instead.

Also most of the flexible oil lines that go with the 914-6 oil tank....

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Posted by: raynekat Oct 23 2016, 08:12 PM

Finally, a real NOS 914-6 oil tank also from Stoddards.

Added an early 911 filter console and a nifty 914-6 GT style filler neck.
It's the same one you see advertised on Ebay or Sierra Madre, but I purchased mine from the manufacturer in Europe before they were being sold her in the States.
They also make a more authentic version that has the "blow-off" tap for those with all the real 914-6 GT oil plumbing....I didn't need that.

The hardest thing to find was the factory clamp for the filler neck. I did source one eventually....

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Posted by: cary Oct 27 2016, 10:58 PM

Spent the morning at Rothsport finishing up the rear sway bar mount on a vintage race car. Bar rotates like butter. Gave it a couple coats of paint and met the wife and Super In law for lunch. Then off to Forest Grove ..............

Plan was to strip the paint off both qtr. panel cut patches. Ran into a little hillbilly work on the first one I worked on. Picture doesn't really show the extent of the crease and trench. Looks like they tried to pull it out with a hook without a slide hammer and they failed .......... mad.gif

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Backside hump shows up a little better on the back.

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Put the dolly in the vice and went to work. Pretty easy work when you can hold the panel in your hand. Gave it a soft touch and out she came. First shot is the area shot with guide coat.

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After getting cleaned up with the 3" DA.

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I'll weld up the holes and blast out the guide coat in the am. That will leave just a slight depression for the paint shop to fill in. welder.gif

Posted by: cary Oct 28 2016, 10:23 PM

Forgot to shoot pictures of the panels after they were finished up. sad.gif
Went back to the garnet in the blast cabinet. Not real impressed with walnuts.
I'll add those tomorrow ...................

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This was the damaged one. It will need just a smidgen of mud.

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The other side didn't have any surprises. biggrin.gif
The side we were working on tidied real nice after I welded in the holes.

Then on to fitting and measuring before I cut.

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Posted by: cary Oct 28 2016, 10:30 PM

Here's what I'm working on.

#1 needs to be 10 cm. I'll dig out some taillight buckets in the am.

#2 needs to be a flat line. Using a machinists ruler as a guide.

#3 & #4 both need about a 2-3mm gap to the rolled portion of the beaded flange. I have about 20 pairs of small vice grips. I hope it is enough.

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Posted by: raynekat Oct 29 2016, 01:15 PM

I can loan you a slide rule and protractor....
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Looking good there Cary.

Posted by: cary Oct 29 2016, 09:31 PM

Only have time for a Saturday 1/2 day. Need to get home and prep the car and trailer for tomorrows season ending AX. driving.gif

Grabbed my tote of taillights to use for fitting the fender patches and taillight panel.
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Spent some time fiddling and cutting the fender patches down to within an inch. Then I decided it was time to start putting it back together. We'll start with the taillight panel first, like the factory did it. That way the fender patch will lay on top. I'm only going to tack the flat portion of the seal channel. That will allow me lots of room for movement.
So I coated both corners with weld thru primer.

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Tacked in ..................

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After we're all put together I'll dig some of the weld out and braze finish the corner.

Posted by: cary Oct 29 2016, 10:01 PM

After the taillight panel was tacked in it was time to fit and measure ................

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Grabbed a spare trunk lid off the rack .................

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Then the eyeball work begins ..................

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Posted by: cary Nov 3 2016, 09:23 PM

The sun finally came back out so I drug out the blaster tank. Doug's replacement heat shield needed a little rust removal. Rust was pretty thick. Pretty pitted. But I think with some love with the wire cup brush it will be usable.
Doug are you still thinking about ceramic coating the shield?
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Posted by: cary Nov 3 2016, 10:07 PM

Then on to cutting the left qtr. panel patch to fit. Measured from the back. When I cut, I left the line. I should have cut right thru the line. Lots of trips back and forth to the belt/disk sander. In the words of Mr. Gamroth. I'm in my Rembrandt mode. If I cut too much I can't glue it back on.
But at the end of the day I'm happy with the fit.

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We do have one spot that will take some more Rembrandt work. The outside flat portion of the fender lip fits perfect. The rolled radius to the flat panel don't quite match.

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Posted by: raynekat Nov 3 2016, 11:32 PM

Yes to the question if the heat shield will be ceramic coated.
Still the plan....unless condition of the part prevents that.

What's your schedule for Saturday?
Will be out that direction late morning/noon-ish....

Posted by: falcor75 Nov 4 2016, 04:32 AM

I approve of this thread... wub.gif

(ok a small minus for the -6, just because I'm a lil jealous) biggrin.gif

Posted by: cary Nov 4 2016, 10:38 PM

Friday 11/4
Welding in the left qtr. panel patch panel.

Started at the taillight and worked my way down to the fender lip. Added a few more stacked spot welds to the edge of the taillight bucket. Could have been a smidgen hotter.
Then I cleaned her up a bit.

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Slow and steady wins the race ..........
Continuous us of the Fix It butt weld clamps and my 6" machinists straight edge.
Let it cool to the touch after each weld. sad.gif
Maybe a smidgen hotter and faster still. welder.gif But I don't want any distortion.

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Used a couple tools to get this done ................

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After working it with grinders and sanders.

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Posted by: raynekat Nov 5 2016, 03:14 PM

Stopped by the shop today to see Cary and the FIL (father in law).
Making steady progress.
The rear end is sprouting straight rust free metal for a change.
Previous rear ender had left a lot of crumpled metal and misalignments.
The opening for the tail light had been compromised (now fixed) such that the light wouldn't fit into the opening easily... the tail lights themselves had been cracked and broken, etc.
Looking good courtesy of the A-team.
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And that new (2nd hand) monster parts washer is killer.
Wish I had the room and the need for that kind of machinery.

Posted by: cary Nov 5 2016, 03:33 PM

Stopped by Rothsport. Jeff was there.
He said your MFI gears are fine.

Took two days off and there's 5 new cars .......
Carl was there doing a corner balance / alignment on
that bitchn black on black turbo. I'll shoot a couple shots on
Monday am.

Posted by: raynekat Nov 5 2016, 08:50 PM

QUOTE(cary @ Nov 5 2016, 02:33 PM) *

Stopped by Rothsport. Jeff was there.
He said your MFI gears are fine.

Took two days off and there's 5 new cars .......
Carl was there doing a corner balance / alignment on
that bitchn black on black turbo. I'll shoot a couple shots on
Monday am.


You're living the good life now Man....

Posted by: cary Nov 6 2016, 09:36 AM

Yes, I have to say life is good ...................

1. The honor of being part of you 914-6 project. 2. The honor of working at Rothsport. I'm back working on what we call 89 Red Safari. I'm hoping after there's a press release so I can mention who's car it will be. It will be driven by two very prominent members of the USA Porsche community.

Even though Saturday was a short day I did get a couple hours in on Doug's car.

Job #1. Get the stand offs removed from the exhaust heat shield. That way Doug can get it sent off/out for ceramic coating.
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Now with the stand offs are out of the way I'll give it a good rub down with the cup brush. Then another shot with the outside blaster.

Job #2. I cut down the right patch panel in preparation for welding in. Gap is still a little too wide. It was what I thought too tight. But at the end of the fitting. Not so.
The problem I'm running into is trying to keep the light bucket at a 100.50 mm opening and the perfect fit/look at the fender well. Curved surface, yada, yada ,yada.
Next time, rather than free handing it I'll use 3-4 of my cheaper butt weld clamps and stick them to the upper/primary surface with magnets to use as a guide. Might work.

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I do use a brass backer it absorb the heat. Which helps with the wider opening issue.
You can see it behind the metal inside the gap. I stitch very slowly. Finger touch and straight edge EVERY weld.
http://www.eastwood.com/magnetic-hole-plug-welding-tool-not-for-gas-welde.html

I do have a couple of these too.
http://www.eastwood.com/magnetic-plug-welding-tool-horizontal.html

That's all for this week. I'll be back next Thursday.





Posted by: cary Nov 11 2016, 01:00 AM

I'm back. During the past week Doug had a conversation with a media blasting company here is Forest Grove. So I took a couple minutes for a quick tour and chat with the owner. I like what I saw. Definitely a car guy.

He had a 240Z that he had just finished. The fenders and hood were stripped with what he called fine grit. That sheet metal is considerably thicker than ours. Then he showed me the roof that was stripped with glass, like what we'd use on the 914.

There was a VW bug getting ready for stripping.

Posted by: cary Nov 11 2016, 08:48 AM

Thursday 11/10

Hit the ground running. Time to finish up the slow and tedious process of welding on he right patch panel.

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Stitch by stitch. Cool down to 80 degrees with air hose after each stitch.

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Very carefully cut off the proud of the weld bead with a 90 degree cut off wheel.
Then carefully and delicately grind it flush.

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After grinding, check your work with a couple guide coats.

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Next on to checking the fit and alignment of the rear taillights. Make no assumptions. The metal in these cars in very, lets say flexible.

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I did shoot the picture after I finished welding in the corner. The work was done prior to the welding.

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Decided against just brazing the corner. The car hangs from the taillight panel when its on the rotisserie. Most of the load is on the trunk. But just to be safe.
Kind of slowed down my grinding when I found all the brazing going out the end.

Posted by: cary Nov 13 2016, 10:27 AM

Got to the shop an hour earlier than Mike's planned arrival time so I went to work on the left qtr. to taillight panel corner weld in.

Not quite all finished and tidied up, but back together. Only shot I took.
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After welding I checked the taillight alignment again ................. don't want any future surprises.

Then I spent a couple hours with Mike (Warpig) sorting thru his engine cleanup pile. After that we headed to lunch. After returning from lunch I began to work on fitting the trunk panel. I start tweaking the rear flange to get the fit I want for a great weld in.

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After I feel that I have the trunk pan in the correct place I begin the work of creating the removal exhaust shield. Panel just fitted, not welded. This time I'll do the work with the trunk pan on the work bench. Which is much easier to work with. But nothing to measure too. Which creates its own issues.

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I should have crawled under Mark's car in the other room for measurements. sad.gif
My first swing at it it was too close to the tranny mounts. Its going to be moved a 1/2 closer to the taillight panel. This afternoon we're going run out for a couple more hours of work and I'll go under the other car to compare notes.

While I'm working on the trunk Super In Law has been creating the two new inside trunk/fender corners. Lots of trial and error. One would think I could have got them from the donor part. But the spot weld cutting and delayering didn't leave too much.
And we're fitting it to the work we did prior to deciding to replace the sheet metal.

So time for some welding ...............

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Welding was a little bumpy with all the left over factory brazing to work around.

Prior to the inside corner weld in I did get the bottom portion of the taillight panel and qtr. panel welded together and tidied up. But I forgot to shoot a couple pictures.


Posted by: raynekat Nov 13 2016, 09:43 PM

Working on a nice amber fan shroud for the 2.7 RS MFI engine.
These are made by Damon Series 900.

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Posted by: raynekat Nov 13 2016, 09:46 PM

Getting the fan "dialed in" a bit more....
Newly plated strap with new foil decal (which is NOS and has the wrong displacement on it...who knew?....and inconsequential in the end).
The displacement on the foil decal for the 1973 engine is a 2.2 which is obviously wrong; should be 2.4-ish.

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Posted by: raynekat Nov 13 2016, 09:47 PM

Can see the displacement error better on this pic...

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Posted by: raynekat Nov 13 2016, 09:52 PM

New struts arrived from Elephant Racing.
My 2nd hand Bilstein units had worn out spindles so were no good.
Ended up ordering RSR struts that had the raised spindle, but put HD Bilstein dampers in them so they aren't too stiff for the street.

Also came with their adjustable bump steer kit & brake line supports (necessary due to the coil over capability of the struts, which I won't be utilizing).

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Posted by: raynekat Nov 13 2016, 09:54 PM

New rubber bushings (from Elephant Racing) and factory bearings for the rear.

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Posted by: raynekat Nov 13 2016, 09:55 PM

New Lemforder ball joints and Elephant Racing rubber bushings for the front A-arms as well.

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Posted by: cary Nov 14 2016, 12:15 AM

Ran back to Forest Grove after church .......................

Here's the shot of the weld in of the right taillight panel to qtr. panel I forgot yesterday. Funny thing. I started today with doing the left side. But once again forgot to shoot a picture of it.

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I let Super In Law take the welder to build up the matching left side inner fender corner. So I went back to re engineering the removable exhaust shield. I crawled under Mark's project car. The standoffs are right up to the taillight panel. I'm going to move Doug's forward about a 1/4" forward.
I'm thinking we should hold off on getting the exhaust shield ceramic coated until we install the engine at Rothsport. The mounting holes might need to be changed to accommodate the 911 exhaust. Thoughts ?

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Here's a shot of the shield attached to the trunk panel. It's attached with self tapping screws. Test fit was a beautiful thing. biggrin.gif

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Plan is to run back out to Forest Grove on Tuesday night to weld in the inner corner and trunk panel. welder.gif

Then it was time to fiddle with Super In Laws corner piece.

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Posted by: cary Nov 16 2016, 09:31 AM

Decided a little moonlighting was in order to get the taillight/trunk all finished up.
I was hoping to get it wrapped up. Almost, but not quite.

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Finished up the back of the right corner.

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Then on to the left corner. Started with the vertical portion of the taillight hole. Then the horizontal. Then out to the front and the last three rosettes on the face of the taillight panel. Forgot to shoot a picture, Ill get it on Thursday. Then on to the holes punched on the backside tying all three layers together. Then last but not least the down butt weld tying it back into the inner fender. It looks a little bumpy in the left area. That left over brazing from the factory or the attempted previous repair.

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After that was finished I moved on to finishing up the removal exhaust shield. In the background Super In Law was working on installing the new parts washer motor.
I'll finish up this post after my day job ........... LOL

Posted by: cary Nov 16 2016, 09:42 PM

After welding the shield stand offs to the bottom of the trunk panel I rounded the corners to make them a little more user friendly.

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Then gave the trunk panel another test fit only to find its a smidgen too tight in the new back left corner. So I didn't get it finished up last night. welder.gif
So it will get a little nip and tuck in the am.

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Posted by: cary Nov 17 2016, 09:01 PM

Got off to a late start, but finally got back to welding in the trunk.
First issue was doing the little cut and tuck on each corner. It didn't take too much.
Then on to aligning the trunk panel to the taillight panel. I'm primarily using the factory spot weld dimples as the guide. Used a combination of Vise Grips and self taping screws to hold it in place. I have a 5th 18" Vise Grip ( R model) that I use to clamp right next to the rosette that I'm welding.

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To get the nice flat fit I'm only welding the taillight panel portion between the braces.
Slow process. Hammer it tight. Clamp down the Vise Grip. Hammer it flat again. Then weld. Then start the process again on the other end.

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Then on to the other side, the rosettes on the transmission mount support. I used self taping screws in every third hole to tighten it down. Once again I only welded in the center section ..

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I started stitch welding in the tranny mount to trunk panel butt weld seam. It's going to be a little touchy. Nice solid new metal with the trunk panel. Old thinner metal in the tranny mount. sad.gif

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Posted by: jmz Nov 18 2016, 11:23 AM

wondering just how much scope creep to expect here. Looks like a nice build!

Posted by: raynekat Nov 18 2016, 01:39 PM

QUOTE(jmz @ Nov 18 2016, 09:23 AM) *

wondering just how much scope creep to expect here. Looks like a nice build!


We know the rear floor boards in the cabin and the lower windshield surround needs work plus some little stuff.
When Cary gets the entire chassis sandblasted and up on the rotisserie here in the coming weeks, we'll have a better idea what needs to be further addressed metal-wise.

Posted by: cary Nov 19 2016, 12:33 AM

Started the day with finishing the butt weld on the humped portions of the tranny support. Then moved on to the trunk reinforcement plate. Weld Thru Primer. Then used about 40 self tapping screws to hold it down tight. Doug had offered to buy a new one and I turned it down. I should have taken him up on it. The problem with reusing the old one is the your welding right into the spot weld cutter hole. Which is thinned down and I blew right thru about a half dozen of them. sad.gif On top of that the holes are too big, which creates a huge rosette.

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Now that the center section is welded in nice and tight I set about welding in the sides.
I try to replicate the way the part was originally installed. Spot welds on the sides and tack welds in the back corner. Then only lightly grind down the welds because they get smothered in seam sealer.

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Then the final step. Weld back on the upper corner braces.

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After our initial set back after finding the wrinkled qtr. panels. The back end is finally getting wrapped up.

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Gave the new metal a light coating of SE primer to protect it.

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End of a great day .................. Tomorrow onto cutting the oil tank holes.

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Posted by: mepstein Nov 19 2016, 05:49 AM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Nov 13 2016, 10:46 PM) *

Getting the fan "dialed in" a bit more....
Newly plated strap with new foil decal (which is NOS and has the wrong displacement on it...who knew?....and inconsequential in the end).
The displacement on the foil decal for the 1973 engine is a 2.2 which is obviously wrong; should be 2.4-ish.

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The downside with our cars is the pretty parts are hidden compared to a 911. Nice job though putting together the pieces.

Posted by: raynekat Nov 19 2016, 04:51 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Nov 19 2016, 03:49 AM) *

The downside with our cars is the pretty parts are hidden compared to a 911. Nice job though putting together the pieces.


So true.
But I'll know it looks the way I want it.
Also if this engine comes out and goes into a 911/912, it will be good to go.

Posted by: cary Nov 20 2016, 08:27 PM

Sorry I'm a little late. Had to do a little malware work on this PC. evilgrin.gif

On to to cutting the holes for the oil tank in the left fender/engine compartment.
Here's a little write up from Wayne at Pelican.

The installation of the oil tank requires you to drill seven holes in the side of your engine compartment. Fortunately, all 914s have indentations in their sheet metal where the holes are to be drilled. If you look on the side of the wall inside your 914, they are located just above and below your relay box. You probably never noticed them before - I know I never did. The holes that must be drilled require a set of hole saws:

4" to 4.5" for the oil filter
2" for the breather hoses
2.5" for the filler neck
1.5" for the 2 hole return line holes.


A shot from the 914 PET.

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I already had the hole template that Doug had drawn up in my possession. Then Doug brought out the oil tank itself.
So I was ready for battle.

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But we didn't have any hole saws that large. So off to ACE I went. The problem is, I bought the first couple hole saws too small. I should have pulled the Pelican info up onto the 55" computer monitor. sad.gif So I might need to do some artwork with the carbide burr cutter.
But I'm hoping if one uses a very soft and slow touch I should be able to enlarge the holes with the correct hole saw. I just returned from Lowes with the correct ones.

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Posted by: raynekat Nov 20 2016, 08:53 PM

Don't drill that oil filter opening 4-4.5" !!!! Be careful with that Axe Eugene. smile.gif
That's too big; Wayne is wrong on that one.
I measured the big rubber gasket that goes in there and it's more like 3.8-3.9".

Posted by: cary Nov 20 2016, 10:18 PM

I bought a 4". That's what everyone stocks. I just ordered a 3 7/8 from Amazon.

Posted by: cary Nov 20 2016, 11:00 PM

Do you have #8, #9, #10, #11, #45 and #46 in your possession ?
I'd like to get my hands on them before I cut the oi filter console hole.

I need to clean out quite a bit of seam sealer and undercoat inside the fender to get the tank positioned first.

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A shot of the foam seals for the filler neck and breather hose.

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Posted by: raynekat Nov 21 2016, 12:09 AM

QUOTE(cary @ Nov 20 2016, 09:00 PM) *

Do you have #8, #9, #10, #11, #45 and #46 in your possession ?
I'd like to get my hands on them before I cut the oi filter console hole.



I've got all of those. I'll bring them to you right after Thanksgiving.

The foam seals look good...maybe not quite so tall/thick?

Posted by: cary Nov 24 2016, 12:23 PM

Package showed up from Amazon. piratenanner.gif
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We have a couple rear trunks (rotten back lips) we can cut a couple test holes into to test the seal fit.

Posted by: cary Nov 25 2016, 10:22 PM

Looked at re-sawing the oil tank holes with the new hole saws. Not.
Traced the correct size with the new saws. Then cut them out with the carbide burr cutter on a die grinder.

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Then I went thru the Restoration Design parts box to remind myself of all the bits that still need to be dealt with.

Then it was time to dig into the donor car and cut out the left seat belt retractor pocket.
Second time around took about half as long. Still tough to get at the third layer.

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Tomorrow will be the delicate cut out of the tight spot welds.






Posted by: cary Nov 27 2016, 09:54 AM

Decided to start the day with fiddling with the 6 motor mount. I needed to shave the URO mount just a bit to get it to fit. Depending on the finish on the motor/body mounts it will need a bit more. But for now it fits together nicely.

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Then on to removing the excess from the left seat belt pocket. Kind of tedious.
Primary objective is to get the unneeded material off without damaging the primary part.
No new pictures, same process as the other side.

Now both side are ready to go. No particular reason on the size difference, freehand.

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Forgot to shoot a shot of the marked out cut. I'll get it on the other side.
But the cut out was pretty uneventful, just slow and careful. The only real issue was the top corner where the short engine cover piece and the firewall come together. It had 3-4 pieces come together and it was brazed. Where on the 72 it had 3 spot welds.
The only scary part was lightly cutting across the brace. It's a feel thing.

The shots below is the only modification I'll need to make to the bracing. The later piece is flatter to accommodate the backing plate I assume.

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Here's where I ended the day and week. Along with a Beavers win at the Civil War game. piratenanner.gif piratenanner.gif

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I won't weld it in until after it comes back from the media blaster. Lots of nasty stuff on the engine side of the firewall.
For those wondering my plan of attack when it comes to welding. It will be lap welded on the firewall surfaces. With both a seam and 1/4" rosettes. I'll then mask off the inertia reel seat and spray the area with seam sealer to make the seams go away.

Posted by: raynekat Nov 30 2016, 02:24 PM

Recently purchased a 2nd hand Leistritz muffler.
Decided to put a more sturdy coating on it than the existing paint that was pealing off in many places.

Lestritz is the muffler of choice for early 911's and 914-6's.
Their build quality and sound are 2nd to none.
They are tough to find as new ones have not been manufactured since the 1980's and the prices of early 911's has gone stratospheric.

Paint remover, scotch pad and wire brushing got me to this stage...bare metal.
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Truly an authentic Lestritz.
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Back from the coaters with a titanium colored ceramic applied.
Just thousands of an inch thick, but basically good for the life of the car.
Won't discolor with heat.
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Found a nice stainless steel muffler tip on Ebay for a great price.
One more thing that won't easily rust on this car.
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The ceramic coating is so thin that all the lettering on the muffler still easily shows.
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Posted by: cary Dec 3 2016, 11:48 PM

Busy week at Rothsport. Getting the first 3 Mexican 1000 rally cars ready for media blasting.
Now its time to get Doug's car ready for media blasting. That starts with taking my project car off the rotisserie and setting it on the frame bench.
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Both the rotisserie and frame bench slide by the low rise lift with moving Mark's for sale car.

Posted by: cary Dec 4 2016, 12:17 AM

So with getting Doug's car ready for the rotisserie we'll need another set of door braces.
One set is in Mark's project car.
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My project car has the Jeff Hail door alignment style set in it.
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So we stopped by Ace after lunch. I decided as long as were doing all the measuring and cutting we'll make two sets. Price tag $121.

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Three 10' pieces of 1/2" black pipe. Cut into 38" long pieces.

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Pile of hardware. Might have saved some if I'd looked for L & R eye bolts instead of turnbuckles.

Super In Law is all set up to come out and play by himself while I'm at Rothsport next week. He was dressed and ready to go at 8am this morning. biggrin.gif
Note : He isn't out there all by himself. Mike, one of the horse trainers is in the next building (barn). He and Super In Law are tight.

Posted by: cary Dec 4 2016, 12:40 AM

While Super In law was in the other room cutting metal I went about cutting out the other upper firewall corner. Don't need any more detail pictures. I changed my attack in round two. I cut it out like a piece of crust-less toast. Cut out the center. Then worked around the outside drilling out the spot welds.

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Just as I was finishing these up Doug stopped by with the oil filter console and hardware bits for the oil tank so I have more hands on info before I cut out the big hole.

He also brought out the tail lights and lenses so I can tweak the taillight panel for the perfect taillight alignment, before paint. Nip & Tuck.
Left, I need to sand/grind a bit inside the fender bucket. Need to tighten the top of the corner portion about 2mm.
Right, need to tweak the bucket mounts just a smidgen. Not quite vertical.

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Like the other parts Doug has refurbished they are a thing of beauty.
They already have Spoke's LED taillights installed. I love mine.
We also discussed adding an LED brake light bar into/onto the targa bar for safety.

Posted by: 396 Dec 4 2016, 09:09 AM

Cary, your one talented individual. Based on some of your projects, on some cars, your practically replacing 50% of the sheet metal. It reminds me of a 356 in Pano where they replaced 95% of the car. If I had the deep pockets and needed one worked on, you will be in the running. pray.gif

Posted by: mbseto Dec 4 2016, 09:39 AM

QUOTE(cary @ Dec 4 2016, 01:40 AM) *

I cut it out like a piece of crust-less toast.


You have a knack for explaining things with an economy of words.

Posted by: cary Dec 4 2016, 07:13 PM

QUOTE(396 @ Dec 4 2016, 07:09 AM) *

Cary, your one talented individual. Based on some of your projects, on some cars, your practically replacing 50% of the sheet metal. It reminds me of a 356 in Pano where they replaced 95% of the car. If I had the deep pockets and needed one worked on, you will be in the running. pray.gif


Thanks for the compliment.
I love these little cars and wish I could save them all ....................

Posted by: cary Dec 10 2016, 01:11 AM

Ready to put the car on the rotisserie tomorrow if the rain slows down. Mike's car will need to roll outside for a bit while we use the lift to mount the car on the rotisserie.

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While Super In Law was finishing up the door braces I blasted the 32 valve covers Mark had dropped off a while ago. I cleaned the gasket seat on the inside and the prepared the outside for paint.

Posted by: cary Dec 11 2016, 08:23 AM

On to the lift she goes ..................

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Doubled checked the window frame gap before she was set onto the rotisserie wheels.
Right side needed to be drawn in 1mm.

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Ready for business ................

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Posted by: cary Dec 11 2016, 09:50 AM

I went thru the detail of removing the left jack post on my rustoration thread.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=187546&view=findpost&p=2432695

Here's where we ended the day.
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I'm going to leave the grinding till after the car gets blasted.
Doug and I'll make determination on the rust after the blasting too.

Being on the rotisserie will make cutting the oil filter console hole much easier.
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I forgot how much easier things are on the rotisserie. biggrin.gif
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Here's a shot of the exhaust shield stand off / mounts.
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Posted by: cary Dec 17 2016, 11:15 AM

Friday 12.16.15

Selfie .............. 46 degrees when we arrive. Better than I thought it would be.
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Starting point.
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Here's a shot of the bottom radius cut out. Be careful not to tear off/out the spot welds.
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As discussed in my rustoration thread. I cut it out in small bites.
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Top of the long is all tidied up. Still want to brush it up with the new 24" sander after it arrives. This time I used a shorter coned carbide cutter to remove the remainder of the spot welds. I think I like it better.
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Moment of truth.

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I'll finish the remainder of Friday tonight or Sunday. Super In Law is chopping at the bit to get going. And Warpig should be there around 10am.

Posted by: cary Dec 17 2016, 11:39 PM

I'll probably look at peeling off the outer layer in the square box after it returns from media blasting.
I need to take a look at all the rocker panel bolts also. The one in the circle is snapped off.

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Posted by: cary Dec 17 2016, 11:50 PM

Then I moved on to removing the jack point triangles. No real issues.

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Heater tube blocked off and ready for the media blaster.

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Posted by: cary Dec 18 2016, 12:14 AM

Then set about removing the right T4 motor mount. I was hoping to save it for Mark's project car. But it would take too much time. And cause too much damage to the parent material. I'll have to get the one I need off one of the donor cars. Cutting away the long from behind.

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I felt bad cutting it into pieces. But I had preserve the parent material on the long.

On a sour note. Now that I have it on the rotisserie I found a hillbilly patch in the hell hole.

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Very productive day ....................

Posted by: cary Dec 18 2016, 12:17 AM

Test fit ..................
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Posted by: cary Dec 18 2016, 12:38 AM

Saturday AM. Off comes the left T4 motor mount. Nothing new. Cut it into pieces to get it out of the way.

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Posted by: cary Dec 18 2016, 12:54 AM

Wilma !!!!!!!!!!
Next was the removal of the field portion of the rear floor plan.

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Before I cut out the field portion I took multiple measurements and pictures. Here's one shot.
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Once I got the field out of the way I could get at all the detail pieces.
First. Cut the floor away from the e-brake bracket.
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#2, trim off the e-brake cable tunnel.
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Finally. Cut the floor away from the seat adjuster bracket.
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Another great day .....................


Posted by: raynekat Dec 18 2016, 01:04 AM

Looking good Cary.
And it looks like I've got some more new metal coming or needed on this car.
As the saying goes...all these cars have rust, just differing in the amount that's all.
You'll be getting lots of practice on mine.

Posted by: raynekat Dec 18 2016, 01:19 AM

We've recently had a good amount of snow here in the Portland area.
Nice time for some inside projects?

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What's a person to do?
Could make miniature snowmen with the wifey? Or....

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Finally get around to putting this mess of parts together!

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Doing the PMB classic high hp axle build up.
Purchased the Sway-A-Way axles, located a good set of 2nd hand 911 axles, got everything cleaned up & replated, purchased the necessary new items and I was ready.

New CV boots and gaskets off Ebay.
Belmetric sent me the Oetiker ear clamps (74mm and 35mm), M10 zinc plated Schnorr washers, and the Grade 12.9 M10x50 CV bolts.

Posted by: raynekat Dec 18 2016, 01:32 AM

The 911 CV joints were cleaned and inspected (in great shape) and put back together in the correct manner....short to long.

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Install the boots on the newly plated flanges, tighten up the big Oetiker clamps and slide the boot assemblies on the axles (not a trivial undertaking) with the small clamps ready to go at a later date.

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After loading up the CV joint with plenty of Redline CV-2 high performance extreme pressure grease, I started to assemble the CV joints onto the axles.
A ring clip goes on the end of the axle.
New black phosphate coating on the 911 stub axles and new gaskets evident.
Also the M10x50 bolts are just the right length to barely come out the back side of the stub axle.

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Freshly replated boot flanges, new boots, clamps, bolts and washers all make for a nearly new looking axle assembly.

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Posted by: raynekat Dec 18 2016, 01:35 AM

Finished product goes on the shelf with other parts for later installation.
I'll torque them up later
These should handle the 200+ hp that my 911 engine will be putting out....at a much later date.

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Posted by: cary Dec 18 2016, 10:33 AM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Dec 17 2016, 11:04 PM) *

Looking good Cary.
And it looks like I've got some more new metal coming or needed on this car.
As the saying goes...all these cars have rust, just differing in the amount that's all.
You'll be getting lots of practice on mine.


We'll take a hard look at the area in blue after we get it back from the blaster.
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With my assortment of weapons I should be able to cut the section out cleanly.
Mad Dog has an assortment of patch panels we could use, or I could cut them out.
With this being a DD I don't think we'd need to remove the entire engine shelf.
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Posted by: cary Dec 20 2016, 09:06 AM

Side Note :
We did save the floor plugs from the cut out section of the floor. Trimmed down the panel and ran them thru the wood stove. Good as new.
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Now that I already have the big Lenox mandrel I'll buy the correct size hole saw for the floor pan when the time comes.

Posted by: cary Dec 28 2016, 08:34 AM

Things at Rothsport are wrapped up for a bit, so back to Doug's car.
Plan to get the spot welds around the cut out floor removed today. Then off to get blasted. Tried contacting the blaster yesterday, no call back. sad.gif

Posted by: cary Dec 28 2016, 11:09 PM

Cut out/off the center tunnel cover. Once again one must be very careful when cutting the cover off. The tubes lay right against the bottom of the pan.

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The tunnel is in very nice shape. piratenanner.gif piratenanner.gif
Don't see any issues.
Even the tub brace looks like new.

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Just about have it ready to go. Just the area's marked in yellow left to go.
No spot weld cutter has been used. Just grinding them down and popping them off.
We do have one tiny rust thru spot on the bottom of the right long. I mean tiny.
There will be a couple inches of bottom lip that will need to be created.

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Super In Law cut out four patches for the vent holes in the longs.
I'm going to tack them in to help keep media from getting in the longs. They'll also get a Gorilla tape cover laid over them for additional protection.

Posted by: cary Dec 29 2016, 11:17 PM

Thursday 12.29.16

Finished up the trim out of the rear floor pan. smile.gif
Then moved on to removing the MPS bracket. Not needed on the 6.
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Then I removed the buggered up trunk pivot. Lots of measurement pictures if anyone needs them.
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Next was the busted off engine lid hinge brackets. Once again, lots of measurement photos.
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Then off came the remnants of the rusted off battery tray.
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As Doug suspected there will be a little more work in the hell hole.
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But a pretty simple fix using the Mad Dog panels.

Posted by: cary Dec 29 2016, 11:24 PM

I then worked on sealing up the long getting it ready for media blasting.

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Ready for blasting .................

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Posted by: cary Dec 31 2016, 10:55 PM

New Years Eve Day

Start the day setting up the doors so Super In Law can begin the speaker hole repairs.
Engine stand and BBQ brackets.
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Trying to bring it back to this ...............
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There's also 3-4 door seal rust holes that I'll need to remove and replace.
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Having some fun .....................
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He made a tool and rolled the flange back up.
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Because of the radiuses the patch was created in three pieces. Some day when we have more time we'll build some bucks we can use in the press.
Just a friendly reminder I don't charge for Super In Law's time.

At the end of the day I took over and tacked the 3 pieces together and started the fiddling and fitting. Just about ready to be welded in.
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Posted by: cary Dec 31 2016, 11:20 PM

After getting him going I set about patching the hole in the hell hole.

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The hours of seam welding thru pockets of seam sealer on the 964 helped with the welding to the rust. welder.gif
After the car is media blasted the patch will be removed.

Then gave it a good lather of brush on seam sealer.
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Then I repaired the window regulator ..............

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Posted by: raynekat Jan 1 2017, 12:21 AM

Looking excellent there maestro welder/reconstruction team. wink.gif

Posted by: cary Jan 14 2017, 10:55 PM

Even though it was 20 degrees when we got up, we still headed out to Forest Grove.
First order of business was starting the fire and getting the middle shop warmed up.
Within an hour I was down to a sweatshirt only.

I was so excited to get back to work I didn't take any pictures before lunch. welder.gif
I got the left speaker hole butcher job repaired.
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Looks like they had some issues with the cage nut. Split or cut. mad.gif
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Welded that up.

The left door has some good (bad) examples of why we now use weld thru primer.
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I also went over the door and filled all the sheet metal screw holes.

Posted by: cary Jan 14 2017, 11:18 PM

Then it was time to go to work on the door seal channel. It is very nice to work on these doors that have been dipped, real easy to see what needs to be done.
What I found pretty much replicates what I found on both mine and Mark's project car.
Four spots rusted thru. One 3" section of degradation. So I elected to make one long patch piece. Rather than 4 small ones. It will easier to keep the weld nice and flat.

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Here's a shot of the area cut out.
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Patch piece is fabricated and ready to be trimmed up.
X's show the location of the spot welds. After the patch is fitted I'll drill out the spot weld locations with the 1/4" Rotacut.

Posted by: raynekat Jan 15 2017, 04:10 AM

Cary, I'm happy you're working on my car.
Your care and expertise is easy to see.
Very happy you are taking all this care and knowledge to fix my car up correctly.

I owe you and your father in law a lot of beers and a great dinner one day....
Thx Man....

Posted by: cary Jan 18 2017, 01:22 AM

Monday 1/16/17

Here's a shot of the repair patch on the right door that was done on Saturday.
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Here's the next butchered up area we'll get after.
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Spent the day welding in the left door seal channel patch. Slow and steady wins the race. Hammer and dolly'd to maintain a flat surface.
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1/8" spot welds. Welding the patch back to the door frame.

A shot of the bottom right corner after grinding and sanding.
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Was about ready to return it to the storage rack when I found a couple holes. Not exactly sure what they were for. Maybe they were going to pull out the dent under them with a slide hammer. But never did the pulling. Just filled it with mud.
Got out woody woodpecker and starting working the dent.
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Posted by: cary Jan 25 2017, 12:06 AM

Snuck out Sunday afternoon for a 1/2 day.

Went to work on the damaged upper portion of the speaker hole on the right door. I don't get why it had all the hammer and punch marks too. Oh well, we'll just fill them in. Super In Law cut out the patch in two pieces. It's been a while since we used the shrinker/stretcher.
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Next on to surveying the rust damage to the seal channel. Once again, I'd like to say how nice it is to work on this stripped door. Best I could tell the metal under the channel wasn't damaged. So I decided to remove just the channel flange.
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The only issue was figuring how to cut the section out. So I decided to go old school.
Drilled a starter hole, just like you would for a jigsaw cut. Except being metal I can weld the hole and slice closed.
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Once again I cut down the spot welds with the cutting disc on the mandrel. We'll start calling it the Johnny wheel. After cutting it almost down to the parent material I pop it off with the narrow wood chisel.
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Then onto the other end.
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End cut.
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First patch was in a double layered area. mad.gif I delicately cut open the outer layer.
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Using the same method to cut out the rusted sections. This will allow me to make smaller patches.
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Posted by: cary Jan 25 2017, 12:10 AM

While I'm working over the door. Super In Law was creating the new seal channel with the shrinker.
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Posted by: cary Jan 27 2017, 08:48 AM

Three holes down, four to go.
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Posted by: cary Feb 2 2017, 11:50 PM

Finally getting back to Doug's car. Between the workload at Rothsport and cold weather I'm getting behind the schedule I'd proposed. sad.gif
Got the fire started and got to work ................. Left Super In Law at home. We have company from Minnesota visiting.

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All of the holes I cut out have been patched and welded up. All that remains is the two pieces of channel .................... I'll weld in the small piece SIL created last week, tomorrow.

I did also weld up a split out hole that holds the inner window seal.

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Doug stopped by right before lunch to check on the progress.
At the end of the visit we kind of came to the consensus that I'll probably be doing the blasting/stripping myself. Looks like I might be ordering a Texas Blaster.
https://www.texasblaster.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=25
I guess we'll be giving my new air compressor its first test.

Doug also brought a couple brake dust shields that had split out bolt holes. Welded those up so he can get them powder coated.

Posted by: cary Feb 3 2017, 11:53 PM

Livin the Dream ........................
Ran out to Kleen Blast in North Portland to pick up some Garnet for the blast cabinet. Drove thru the Freezing Rain I-5 carnage on my way. Other than the debris on the side of the road, the drive was uneventful.

Lit a fire and started a 1/2 pot of coffee when I arrived. biggrin.gif
Time to get to work .........................

1st. order of business was to spot weld in the first replacement door seal channel.
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Gave the bottom of the channel patch a shot of weld thru primer. Should be good for another 50 years.

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You'll notice the plywood backer against the door skin to keep from dimpling the skin.

Then I welded up the split/cracked window seal fastener hole on the right door.
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Doug, I found another drilled hole on the left door ................ idea.gif
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Then I cut out the 5th rust spot. This time the seal channel is in the way. mad.gif
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At the end of the day I started tinkering with seal channel patch #2. Looks almost like a roller coaster ................ Follow the yellow line.
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All in all a very productive 1/2 day ...................... smile.gif

Posted by: cary Mar 6 2017, 12:14 AM

Sunday March 5th.

Doug came out to do a little more undercoating removal before I deliver the car to our NEW media blaster in the am.

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He brought his new to him 914-6 engine tin out so I can take it along to the media blaster. Once blasted it will get a little more tuning up before getting powder coated.

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He also brought me a new to him LEISTRITZ muffler out for a little dent removal.

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Posted by: cary Mar 6 2017, 07:58 PM

Finally ............................. cheer.gif cheer.gif

I dropped the car off at the new media blasters this morning. Impressive shop. Nice and tidy. Hopefully done by Friday ..............

I noticed everything in his shop in epoxy primered. So I asked, does he spray epoxy too?
Answer, No but my brother has a booth on the other side of Sherwood. They neutralize the soda first, then spray two coats of epoxy.

I'll let Doug discuss it with him.

Posted by: cary Mar 12 2017, 10:00 PM

Stopped by the blaster on the way home from instructing at the Tire Street Survival event at PIR.

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Posted by: raynekat Mar 13 2017, 05:42 PM

QUOTE(cary @ Mar 12 2017, 09:00 PM) *

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All this yellow-tan looking stuff is just seam sealer.
I thought it was the foam that the factory puts up in the rear corners at first.
Nothing to worry here...just funny how cameras distort colors at times.

Will be getting epoxy primed in the next couple days, then back to Cary's shop to finish out the rest of the metal work.

Main things are finishing up the floors and doing the repairs around the windshield cowling.

Posted by: cary Mar 17 2017, 09:41 PM

Today was the big day. Time to pick up the car from the paint booth. piratenanner.gif
The car looked stunning. Another stroke of luck, the blaster/primer painter shot the car with the same SPI primer I use.

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Posted by: cary Mar 18 2017, 07:44 AM

A couple shots after being unloaded into my shop.
No real surprises after being blasted. A few screw/bolt holes here and there. A couple more soft dents. Hell hole is better than I thought it would be. I'll still need a Mad Dog kit.
Chomping at the bit to get going ............ tried to take Monday off at Rothsport, no go. Fender liners and mud flaps before the following weeks testing.

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Up early to retrieve Matt Whitesell's car from the paint shop. 8am appointment.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=275587&view=findpost&p=2464316

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Posted by: cary Mar 19 2017, 11:25 PM

Finally back to work .....................
Started with the sheet metal hole cutting test for the oil filter. I used the hood off the POS parts cars that was cut into pieces. The outside edges were totally rotten.

Started with the 3 7/8 hole. The grommet fits, but the oil filter won't go thru it.
This is the one we thought would work. The seal alone would not slide around the hole.

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The next one was 4". Empty, the seal would slide around the hole. The oil filter would slide in but the not pass entirely thru. It would hang up on rolled bottom lip.

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But it would pass thru the seal with a light application of Sil-Glyde. I think once the seal heat cycles a few times it will be fine. I think 4 1/8th. would become to loose over time.

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Posted by: cary Mar 19 2017, 11:56 PM

Next onto filling in all the sheet metal screws holes in the trunk that were bondo'd over. I assume the battery was mounted in the trunk for a while.

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Then it was time to patch up the hacked in battery cable hole.

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Shot from the backside, double sided seam

Used the Edd China (Wheeler Dealers) tape patch pattern technique.

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I decided to use the 110 volt welder for less wire and less heat. Hopefully it will have less burn back on the epoxy primer.

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Posted by: cary Mar 23 2017, 07:16 PM

Moonlighting Wednesday 3/22/17
Matt Whitesell came out to keep removing fuel and brake lines.
Doug came out to check on his epoxied project.
He also brought by his fuel pump and the CDI unit. Drill holes for the fuel pump bracket and do some creative addition to the battery tray for the CDI unit.

I started the night with a project review with Doug. Then I proceeded to unpack the boxes of parts that need to be welded in. welder.gif
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Start with welding in the pivot threaded bushing.
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The replacement part needs a little tuning up to make it look a little more like the factory piece. Round the corners and flex it up a bit to make it the same height.
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Lots of measurements to check and use for getting it in the correct location.

Next ...................... rear sway bar mounts
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Posted by: cary Apr 5 2017, 08:33 AM

I did get in a little moonlighting from my work at Rothsport. Didn't get as far as I'd have liked too. Dad's Garage oil change for the daughter. Then when we through Matt's front struts in the parts washer. It made a horrible racket and shot sparks. sad.gif . So we had to pull that apart. Needs to be dropped off at the irrigation pump shop for diagnosis.
Pump and motor turn freely. I'm thinking a brush of some sort sort wore down and turned sideways. Over my pay grade ................

Decided to round up a rear sway bar and get the rear sway bar tabs correctly located and aligned. Used Matt's sway bar and Mark's brackets. The bottom of the brackets are sprayed with weld thru primer and ready for welding in tomorrow night.

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Posted by: cary Apr 7 2017, 08:23 AM

Thursday 4/6/17 Moonlighting

Double checking the sway bar alignment after welding in the first side.
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Welded into place. Once it warms up a bit I'll get everything recovered with epoxy.
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Trunk side .................
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Man it's pleasant welding with new metal on both surfaces. No need to adjust the weld settings due to the metal density.

The next couple steps I'll need to put on my Big Boy pants. 1st, cut the hole for the oil tank/filter grommet. Then on to installing my custom seat belt pockets.

I'm getting over my aversion to cutting and drilling holes in these beautiful cars.
Here's rally #2 going on the alignment rack. I alone have probably drilled 200 holes in that car. Today it will get 40 more. I'm riveting in 2 sheets of UHMW on the floor pan between the skid plates.
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Posted by: raynekat Apr 7 2017, 07:39 PM

Received my stainless steel bumpers. Minor filing needed to fit the 914 Rubber fog light grills and the license plate bracket speed nuts.

The yellow fog light lens look pretty sharp.

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 8 2017, 06:54 AM

The yellow lenses do look nice. beer.gif

Posted by: cary Apr 8 2017, 10:20 PM

Finally a Saturday off. Spent the am doing shop chores and maintenance. After lunch it was time to drill a 4" hole in the car.
Measure about 10 times, then cut. Started with finding the center of the formed oil filter console location.

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Laid out Doug's template to confirm.
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Perfect ..............

Needed go to the Tool Whore weapons chest. More torque ..........
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Drilling the hole was uneventful. Getting the oil tank into the fender was another story.
I just couldn't get the inside stud into the hole. sad.gif
After alot twisting and turning I found the flange was hanging up on the striker plate backing plate. mad.gif
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Kind of hard to see. It wanted to settle in between the two sets of nubs.
So we loosed it up the striker plate and moved it about 2mm. It then slid right in. Go figure.
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I had a bitch of a time getting it back into place so I could reinstall the M6 bolts.

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The free handed bottom hose hole will need a little more art work.

Posted by: cary Apr 8 2017, 10:40 PM

Then onto the left custom seat belt anchor point.
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Doug thanks for the soda blasting. It made cleaning up the area pretty simple.

After a couple cut downs she's fitting pretty nice. The door frame portion will be rosette welded on the outside flange. Factory look. Same with the upper cross member. The fire wall portion will be lap welded with both seam and rosette welds.

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Back side. You can see the flange.

Just about ready to weld. It will get another run thru the media blast cabinet before welding.

Posted by: cary Apr 10 2017, 08:01 AM

Forgot I do have one section of Rembrant work to do.
The radius's don't match. sad.gif
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Posted by: cary May 2 2017, 10:20 PM

Now where was I ? Seems like its been forever since I've been out here.
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Beings that I'll have 4 days to work before I head to LA for Luftgekuhlt I decided to tackle the jack points first. Both sides had rust under jack point. So I needed to remove the 1st rusty layer. Both of the jack tubes where still in good shape.

Left side :
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Like I've mentioned in the past. Take it out/off in small sections. Your less apt to tear a hole out from under the spot welds.

I did find that one of the rocker panel nuts had a 6mm bolt broken off in it. mad.gif
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Welded up my too deep cut.

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Gooder as new. Drilled and tapped.

On to the right side. Same drill .......................
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I did find another snapped off rocker panel bolt on the right side. Once again, drilled and tapped.
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I sprayed the opened up sections with Ospho before we headed home.

Posted by: cary May 4 2017, 09:00 AM

Wednesday 5/3/17

Started the day cleaning the Epoxy primer out of the rocker panel cover nutserts.
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Then on to the left seat belt retractor. Next task was putting the flange on the pocket so it will lay behind the firewall for strength.
https://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools/specialty-air-tools/air-punch-flange-tool-1110.html
Lots of Rembranting to get a nice fit. The half a dozen long reaching Vise Grip clamps came in handy again. I worked on this while Super In Law was creating the jack point sheet metal patches. The indent for the tube had to be pressed/hammered in.
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Blasted and weld thru primed and ready to go for tomorrow. I'll clean off the weld thru primer with lacquer thinner prior to respraying with epoxy primer.
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After he finished up the right patch I set out to get it welded in. Kind of over did the application of weld thru primer due to the location of the patch. Lots of splattering. mad.gif But it tidied up pretty nice.
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Short Episode of Tool Whore.
I don't remember if I mentioned that I changed weapons for removing the proud off the welds.
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Right side finished up.
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Could have welded just a smidgen hotter for flatter rosette welds. The upper weld on the tube is a bitch with the fender attached. First shot was in the upside mode. NOT.
Ended up full power and a long stick out. Don't forget to turn up your welder when you get the the tube. dry.gif
Biggest issue was the inside fender 4 rosettes. 1. Next time tape off the area prior to spraying epoxy primer. I need a longer and wider belt sander. Getting that area down to bare metal was a bit of work. Tomorrow I'm going to try the 45 degree die grinder with a 3 inch disk. 2. I didn't want to take the time to pull the readers out of my Miller Face mask so I left hand welded it with my eyes closed.

Left side all ready to go for Thursday.
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Posted by: cary May 5 2017, 08:39 AM

Thursday 5/4/17.
On to the left jack cover.
Reusing the tube I didn't like the way the radius met the bottom of the long so I straightened it and rebent it.
I weld in the vertical rosettes first then hammer it down.
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Back in business ..................
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In addition to the longer belt sander I'll need to find a magnetic mirror so I can see the hole on the last 2 holes.
In the future I might tinker with using the Panel Spotter in this spot. Need more practice.
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Next was welding in the left seat belt bucket.
Started with fitting it tight with self taping screws.
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The front was rosette and seam welded. Back got some 1" stitches every other inch.
Sides and top was just rosette welded like the factory part.
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I didn't get too carried away with grinding. Basically just taking the tops off, not touching the back. My plan is to spray both front and back with a light coat of spray on seam sealer to kind of camouflage them.
The dark color is from the penetration of the back side stitches.
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Need to detail the window seal channel in the am.
Doug is coming out for a visit in the am. It will be short day, I'm leaving for Lufegekult at 5am on Saturday and need to check in at Rothsport in the afternoon.

I wish I could share a photo. We left the two dirty rally cars sitting in the middle of Jeff Zwarts car collection. It is a sight to be hold. I'm pretty certain he is being his Monte Carlo 914-6 to be displayed with the 2 Mexican 1000 cars.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/rennsport-randomness-an-interview-with-jeff-zwart/

Posted by: cary May 5 2017, 09:22 PM

Friday 5/5/17 Short Day

Trimming up and in the right side seat belt retractor pocket.
Second time around is going very quickly. Lessons learned on round one are paying rewards.
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Posted by: raynekat May 8 2017, 11:31 PM

New shoes for the car.
A set of ultra-lite Mahle gas burner wheels that have been repainted.
Shod with Michelin XWX 185/70VR15 tires.
These will be my everyday running around set up.

Pretty amazing how light this tire/wheel combo is.

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Posted by: raynekat May 8 2017, 11:42 PM

Also just received my gauges back from North Hollywood Speedometer.
This took some time....nearly 10 months, but the wait was worth it as they always do a great job.
Not inexpensive, but I wanted a few special touches, so they were my choice.

Converted the 911 multi-gauge to all metric or Euro? Druck (oil pressure) in bars and the oil temp in C.
The speedo was given the later 914 look as the early 914 speedos just have too many numbers for my taste and look too busy.
Finally the tach was rearranged with the addition of the fuel gauge as well.
All new bezels, glass, pointers, center buttons, etc.

Gauges look flawless.

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Posted by: Cairo94507 May 9 2017, 06:41 AM

I love your gas burners.

Your instruments look beautiful. smilie_pokal.gif I spent some coin on mine to have them done; you look at them the whole time you are in the car. Well worth the time and money.

Posted by: raynekat May 12 2017, 07:54 PM

Rebuilt the steering column today.

Repainted the housing, installed a new turn signal switch, new ignition switch, rekeyed ignition lock all with new shrink tubing and a 12 pin connector.

Talk about a fiddly job.
Routing the wires so you can get the whole mess through the very tight opening in the housing, soldering new male pins on all the wires, checking and rechecking wiring diagrams from various sources to make sure I understood what every wire was and where it was supposed to go.

It was a total hack job when I disassembled after purchase.
The previous owner(s) had been naughty and lazy folks in replacing the ignition in the past.

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Posted by: cary May 13 2017, 06:36 AM

Friday 5/12/17

The right seat belt retractor pocket went in lickety split after all the engineering on the left side.
Positioned and attached with self tappers.
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Self tappers removed and the outer hole enlarged to 3/16 for a larger rosette.
Rosettes welded up/in.
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Seam (stitched) welded and wire brushed.
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Posted by: cary May 13 2017, 06:49 AM

Next ......................... on to the Hell Hole.
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Doug has provided me the Mad Dog Major kit for the work.
Picking up a little flash rust so I gave them a rub down with OSPHO before I headed home.
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Let the fun begin. Cut off/out the ramp without damaging the inner layer from the inner long.
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Once I get the ramp removed I'll cut out the inner wheelhouse so Super In Law can recreate the formed areas the best we can. smash.gif
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Then I'll move on to the engine shelf and end panel. I'd kind of like to not have to remove the engine seal channel, it's in great shape. And that extra stud is kind of cool.
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Posted by: cary May 14 2017, 10:22 AM

Saturday 5/12/17

Back to cutting out the hell hole.
While I'm cutting out the hell hole Super In Law went to work on the front valence.
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Not a lot to work with. These have been so beat up running into and over parking curb/stops over the years that the sheet metal is pretty thin. First attempt will be adding the front edge back on.
I'll need to remove the one off my 74 to get the correct radius. It has an odd cut out.

Out came the inner wheelhouse/battery tray mounting area sheet metal.
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Replacement piece underneath, Super In Law's next project. We'll see what he comes up with. His first thought is a couple different bucks and being made in two pieces.
Reminder : I don't charge for Super In Laws time. We're all paying his Federal retirement. He's now been retired longer than he worked (32 years).

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It takes a pile of tools to get this done . LOL.
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Ready to start cutting the patch panels.
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I think I'll leave the end panel. It has a little degradation on the hell hole side. The interior side looks beautiful.
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Posted by: raynekat May 15 2017, 01:25 AM

Obtaining/reconditioning parts for the side shift conversion.

Purchased the shift forks, rear console, rods and shifter from a couple of 914 World members. All the parts were in great shape. Just needed some cleaning and new bushings for the most part.

Cleaned and repainted the two shift rods.
The rod bushings on the rear rod had turned to the consistency of candle wax.
Completely shot.
So replaced those with a set from 914 Rubber.
Also purchased a new rear console cover with band from 914 Rubber as well.

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Posted by: raynekat May 15 2017, 01:30 AM

Close up of the new shift rod bushings.
Your friend is a vise when driving out and replacing the locating pin.

The set screw has a locking nut which is really slick.
Comes from JWest Engineering.


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Posted by: raynekat May 15 2017, 01:34 AM

Pulled the shifter apart to clean it, paint it, inspect the components.

Everything looked great including the two plastic pieces on either side of the spring up inside the housing.
A new coat of paint and reassembly was all that was needed.
Getting those two long springs back in place was a minor battle, but I won in the end.

Some new hardware, boot and shift knob...and this job was complete.

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Posted by: raynekat May 15 2017, 01:35 AM

The rear console just required some light cleaning and a couple of new bushings and it was good to go.

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Posted by: raynekat May 18 2017, 03:58 PM

Now for a break in my restoration activities.....

My new twins today, Sadie and Derek.
Healthy girl, boy and wife.
What a trip this has been.

Obviously from the bottom side of the world. biggrin.gif


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Posted by: cary May 18 2017, 05:06 PM

Congrats from Julie, I and Super In Law.
They're beautiful.

Posted by: altitude411 May 18 2017, 05:11 PM

Wow, how blessed, beautiful little angels. Congratulations!

Posted by: raynekat May 18 2017, 05:21 PM

Future Porsche pilots /mechanics.

Posted by: cary May 18 2017, 10:45 PM

Friday 5/18/17

Start the day with pulling the front valence of the 74 Appearance Group I have in inventory. To become my oldest son's car (Robert, custom made kid).
Need to recreate the control arm cups. The part that gets ground off.
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Next weld in the McMark 914-6 oil line hook.
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Then Doug asked me to cut out the rear fender lips like the later cars. Allows for a little wider tire.
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Posted by: cary May 18 2017, 11:09 PM

While I'm welding, Super In Law started the work on the inner wheelhouse/ battery tray panel.
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Next its time to weld in the Tangerine Racing suspension console stiffeners. Lots of clamping and hammer work.
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One side sprayed with cold galvanizing. One shined up with a wire brush.

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Ended the day prepping the right engine lid hinge bracket. Welded in the holes that were ripped out when the hinge came loose.

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Posted by: cary May 20 2017, 10:14 AM

Friday 5/19/17
Short day on Doug's car. Rebuilt the front brake master cylinder on the 4 wheeler for starters. Good-er as new.............

Grabbed the welder and welded in the engine lid bracket before Super In Law needed it on the wheelhouse back wall.
Being that welding is a major portion of the work we do, another Miller welder is on the wish list. A 115v unit to be used primarily for sheet metal.
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The Mad Dog piece is a little more than we need for a street car. So Doug and I decided that modifying the ER piece was in order. Beings that I've always looked over the horizon. I wanted the brake line support to be repair and replaceable. I think SOP is to weld over it.
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Final version. Gave the brake support enough space so that the welds wouldn't touch it. Used the inside plate to pull it into place. Again used self tapers to snug it down tight. But even with the screws, lots of hammer work to keep it nice and flat.
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All glued down .................
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Looks like it moved about 1.5 mms counter clockwise after I snugged it down.
No real issue other then bugging me.

I'll pull one of Mark's sway bar bushing cups out of his plating stash to check for welding clearance.
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Based on this shot there shouldn't be any issues. But I don't want it to be an issue after paint when Doug's putting it back together. sad.gif

Posted by: cary May 20 2017, 10:31 AM

Onto the inside. Looks like the hillbillies used a crow bar to open up the space for the inner sway bar support.
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Trimmed it up the best I could without cutting out and welding in a new piece.

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Left side all done. Right outer piece marked and ready for the band saw.

Super In Law continues with the wheelhouse wall. Did a couple slits and welds to create the battery tray perch, turned out nice. With all the twists and turns its taking a bit get the cut out nice and tight. Big gap = hotter weld = a big melted mess. Patience is a virtue. Plus I have the luxury of not worrying about how long it's taking him. $$

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The hard part is trying to recreate the circled portion without a bunch of hammer work.
Won't spend too much time as its behind the battery tray. But it will nice and tidy.

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Posted by: raynekat May 20 2017, 04:10 PM

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I'll pull one of Mark's sway bar bushing cups out of his plating stash to check for welding clearance.
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Based on this shot there shouldn't be any issues. But I don't want it to be an issue after paint when Doug's putting it back together. sad.gif


I'll have to get you the ER sway bar bushing cups as they are a different shape than the factory ones....I think.
Believe they are circular in shape not triangular like the factory.

Cary....you're always thinking a couple steps ahead.

Posted by: cary May 26 2017, 08:12 AM

Made a house call and picked up Doug's front sway bar and bear blocks. That way I can make sure the sway bar is in side to side alignment. Tune it till it turns like butter.
Which is complicated a bit by welding in the tub stiffeners. The ER/Tarret bar add another complication. The bar is turned down the last 5 inches and won't go completely thru the bearing block. So I have to tear it all the way down each time I need to tweak the tub. sad.gif
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Had to run to Ace to get a larger UniBit. Up to 1 3/8.
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With the right side all locked down and tuned up straight. We'll lock down the left prior to tacking in the stiffener.
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It took me a while but I can finally see the deviation in the tolerance as it come thru the bearing block. Josh at Rothsport had to beat on me a while.
This allows you to know which way to tweak the tub. I will say its a little easier with the square cut end. Two corners will be tight. Two will show just the slightest gap. Ever so slight, 1000ths.

Posted by: cary May 26 2017, 10:35 PM

Here's a couple better shots of what I was trying to describe. The bar is being held by the left bearing but it is perfectly centered in the right hole.

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Here's the install of the left stiffener and bearing.

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I used my factory sway bar support to pull the center pieces nice and tight.

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Posted by: cary May 26 2017, 10:47 PM

After lunch it was time to start welding in the hell hole / wheel house patch panel.
It takes a lot of tuning and tinkering to get to a nice and tight fit. The bottom is tied back to the long. The rest I'll get to in the AM.

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Posted by: cary May 28 2017, 09:34 AM

Wheelhouse welded in and covered with cold galvanizing spray.
Slow and steady keeps it nice and flat. Used a 3" 36gr RoLoc on a 2" holder to smooth down the seam. Finish it with 80gr on a 3" mini DA.

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The hell hole ramp is about half way welded in. Forgot to shoot any pictures. Left early so I could stop at Immediate Care. mad.gif Have some kind of cold I can't shake.

Posted by: mb911 May 28 2017, 12:35 PM

Just did the exact same repair the same way. Great job.

Posted by: cary May 29 2017, 09:23 PM

Took most of Sunday off to try and beat this virus ..............

Here's where we started this am (Monday).
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The top of the engine tray patch needs a little more polishing. But I won't get too carried away with it, it will all get covered up with seam sealer.

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After a quick coating of cold galvanizing spray ......................

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Posted by: cary Jun 10 2017, 12:10 AM

Back from WCR and back to work.
Time to install the new battery tray combo.I decided to give Adam from RD's technique a shot. I usually install it in two pieces. This will make for an easier removal if needed in the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ExKXK0UXpI

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Trickiest part is the weld on the upper right side.
Looked at 3 or 4 cars here at the shop and all had had their battery trays replaced.
All had some pretty ugly welds on the right side. So I kept it pretty simple. Two long stick welds. Started the puddle on the long and pulled it up to the battery tray.

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The RD pile of new parts is getting smaller. Plus the 1/2 floor pan.
I'll start with the 6 cylinder motor mount in the am.

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Posted by: cary Jun 10 2017, 11:23 PM

Started the day with pulling out the plasma cutter. I cut the door seal channel section I need to replace/repair Doug's door from one of the doors off my POS parts car.

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Took a bit of work but I got what I needed cut out.

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Then I trimmed it down some more ...............

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Here's what I ended up with. It will need a couple patches. But much better that what was there. Didn't look like much before I ran it thru the blast cabinet.

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This piece was removed by drilling a hole thru the spot welds and slowly and softly chiseling off/out the spot welds without twisting the small piece. It takes a bit of patience.

Posted by: cary Jun 11 2017, 09:16 AM

Next Saturday Project :

Getting the parts car prepared to remove the cowl. Frunk hood, wiper motor, dash and misc. tidbits.
After everything is cleared out of the way and I take the time to look at the spot welding.
Getting the part out is going to be a bit tricky. The welded on fenders create quite dilemma. By itself, not a real issue with the Sawzall. But I might need the top of the fender too. Yet too be determined.

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Here is the location I keep staring at. This is one of the worst spots for rust creeping back up and destroying a $10k plus paint job.
The body tie is a fairly solid piece. But moisture gets in between the fender and cowl and the cancer begins.
I remember when Jeff Hail was there on his project. But his fenders were off.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=76791&view=findpost&p=1032628

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The problem is I want to save this portion too .................
We did this portion on my project car many years ago. But not both the fender and the cowl.

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Posted by: cary Jun 11 2017, 09:31 AM

Time to dive into the deep end .................
Went back and looked at the cowl on the project car.

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Wiper pivot holes ................
Its amazing what Bondo can cover up ............. mad.gif

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Tie in looks nice and solid.

So out she came.

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Time to walk out of the trauma center .............

Posted by: cary Jun 11 2017, 09:46 AM

So lets go burn some metal ...............
Time for the 6 cylinder motor mount.

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I did go back and grind down the welds in the center after the photo.

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Went back and read Mark's comments on the alignment. Pretty straight forward, side to side centered (arrows). Then used the other two straight lines for the vertical.

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Posted by: cary Jun 11 2017, 10:00 AM

Back to trimming off/out the portion of the cowl I left on the dash flange.
This is what needs to come off .............

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On we go ............

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Ground off the primer to expose the spot welds. This time I used the nose of the belt sander to dig a hole in the spot weld. Didn't drill any holes.
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Took off about 6 inches at a time.

Posted by: raynekat Jun 15 2017, 09:35 AM

Finished up the engine side of the front 914-6 engine mount.

Rubber mount from URO (we'll give it a try as it's looks decent enough), main mount from Ben (of 914-6 SS heat exchanger fame) that was powder coated satin black and the 2 sandwich blocks from another Ben (thenewgarage 1970 914-6 - #2401 build thread). Ben's sandwich blocks are very nice and put to shame the shoddy set I received from Freisinger Motorsport in Germany....for a fraction of the cost too.

Also all new hardware.

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Fully assembled....

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Posted by: raynekat Jun 15 2017, 09:40 AM

Quick clean up of the original jack.
Wanted a bit of patina on this one.

Re-plated the springs in clear zinc and did all the bits and pieces in black oxide.
Just cleaned up the main tube and gave that a quick home black oxide treatment using an Eastman kit.
Painted the round base and the nose satin black.
Good enough and preserves "some" of the character of the car.

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Posted by: raynekat Jun 15 2017, 09:49 AM

Just received these bad boys in the mail from Elephant Racing.

Bilstein sport shock with coil over conversion kit, 150# spring with helper.
Hopefully a nice combination for predominantly street use with a bit of auto-cross and track days thrown in there as well.

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Love the decals with the Nurburgring on there....

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Posted by: cary Jun 16 2017, 08:56 AM

Thursday 6.15.17

Welded in Super In Laws tuned up door seal channel. I'm pondering using JB Weld the seal channels on both door to eliminate the possibility of moisture getting back behind them again. Create a nice smooth surface.

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Next onto to cutting out the cowl. Kind of sacrificing a good fender to learn how its layered together. Because this was a CA car the channel looks to be solid all the way down. We'll melt the seam sealer out of the way once we get it completely removed.
Then dig down to the cowl. Looks to be three layers deep. Trying to figure out which came first, the chicken or the egg. Then figure out how to recreate it. If I can without having to remove a section of the fender. barf.gif

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Posted by: mb911 Jun 16 2017, 10:43 AM

Looking good.. Tackling many of the same things on my car.

Posted by: cary Jun 16 2017, 10:51 PM

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Out came the cowl/windshield frame.

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Posted by: cary Jun 18 2017, 05:49 AM

Trimming down the cowl removed from the parts car. Trying to determine the assembly process as I'm peeling back the layers.
Starting point. Removing the fender portion first. The fender has a stiffener on the outside it supports an unknown air/drain gap that I didn't know existed. There's a 6 inch gap with no weld.

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After fender portion removed .................

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Lots more cut down pictures if someone needs more detail in the future. Cut off the window frame.

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On to trimming the remaining dash portion off the cowl.

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About ready for blasting ................

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Working on cleaning out the gap on the project car. It's there, filled with debris and bondo. sad.gif

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Next engineering issuse. What to fabricate to weld in the cowl at the fender joint.

Posted by: cary Jun 22 2017, 09:16 PM

Thursday 6/22/17

First task before it gets too hot. Blast the replacement cowl.
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Then pulled the major dents out of the spare Leistritz muffler. It's ready to head to its new home after Doug gives it a paint job.
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Then went to work on the 914-6 engine tin. This is the real deal. So it will need some tuning up. First obstacle to overcome is the attempt to repair with brazing years ago.
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Posted by: cary Jun 24 2017, 07:16 AM

As I wait for a couple inquiries Matt sent out on a nicer cowl I decided it was time to
R & R the pedal support. Like always I take it out in small sections so I don't rip the parent material underneath. I also used the RotoCut on this application. Didn't want to damage the floor pan. I did drill thru in one spot ................ sad.gif
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Prior to the application of cold galvanizing I welded up the pedal box water inlet.
Things that make you go hmmmm.
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Bolted in then used 6 self tappers to snug it down tight. Still find the gas pedal holes in the new piece are a bit off. Have to elongate towards the pedal box.
Cold galvanizing on the floor pan. U-Pol weld thru primer on the pedal support.
I do remove the cold galvanizing with a squared off drill bit. I'm thinking much better penetration and a hell of a lot less weld thru primer splatter. smile.gif
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So while I'm burning metal I decide to weld up the other four water inlets on the front floor pan. Two had no cover and no seam sealer. Two had covers and a half ass application of seam sealer. So I glued them shut with the electric glue gun.

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All tidied up ...................

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Posted by: cary Jun 24 2017, 07:26 AM

Next project.

I'll have Super In Law build a new CDI hanger to hang it off the side of the battery tray. New one needs to turn 90 degrees. Plus we'll add a couple supports back to the battery tray base.
This will give him a good chance to play with the bead roller. I just ordered the Woodward stand from Summit Racing. I have a feeling I'll have to buy the large set of dies too.
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His next project will be carving a couple 3 or 4 wooden bucks to straighten out the trunk waves. I'll need to go shopping for a couple wooden mallets.

Posted by: cary Jul 1 2017, 10:47 PM

Today was the big day .................
Decided it was time to dig into fender to cowl rust. I'd been kind of dreading it.
Seems I'm always cutting on a perfectly good car (words of Jeff Gamroth). And it I'm always the bearer of bad news when it comes to finding rust. Plus I have this long term since of responsibility to the paint that will cover my work.

Decided I'd start with a small point of entry in case I get lucky and the tin worm hadn't started eating the second support layer of fender and the top of the hinge pillar.

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Looks like my conservative swing at it paid off ................
No rust in the usual places. biggrin.gif The cleaned portion is the inner/lower layer of the fender. It doesn't seem to get much attention.

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Cut out the top of the inner fender to get down to the channel where the rust is hiding.

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Keep cutting and digging.

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After peeling back the layers I got both sides opened up and treated with OSPHO.

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Posted by: cary Jul 7 2017, 10:08 PM

Taking a break from the cowl/fender. Applied cold galvanizing spray to the cut out section after the OSPHO had dried.

It's time to install the back half of floor.
1st order of business is installing the seat adjuster mount for the right seat. NA on a 71.

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Then I sealed up the weld penetration from the 6 motor mount with cold galvanizing spray.

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Then it was time to start tuning up all the nicks and cuts on the floor pan flange.

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What couldn't be blipped in and welding is getting patched up.

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Tomorrows the day ....................

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 8 2017, 07:10 AM

Terrific work. beerchug.gif

Posted by: cary Jul 8 2017, 08:52 AM

Thank You .................
Today should be a big day. The rear floor pan is visually a big piece of the project.
Then on to all the brake and seat tidbits .............

As I'm standing in the shower preparing for the day ahead. Forgot to mention that prepping the tunnel both the new rear bottom and the enclosed front is the first thing on the days agenda. I'll let that dry as I finishing the remaining patches.

Posted by: cary Jul 11 2017, 08:19 AM

Saturdays work ................ didn't quite get it welded in.
1st. Sprayed the new bottom with cold galvanizing spray.
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Then after some close inspection of the remaining tunnel I decided that it will need to be treated/sealed up.
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The blasting and epoxy primer didn't quite get in there. So I'd going to build a couple plugs for the cable tubes and we'll treat it with OSPHO then seal it up with frame coating.
http://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-internal-frame-coating-14oz-aerosol.html

Continued with bringing the flange back to 100%. A couple more patches and a few more nicks and cuts.
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Before it gets smoothed down with the RoLoc disk.

I'd decided that the 1/2" of excess material on the outside of the floor pan wasn't going to cut it on this car. So Super In Law built me a fence for my Jet band saw.
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Forgot the before shot. But here's the after 1/2" was trimmed off. biggrin.gif
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Now it fits into the recess like it should. Shot of the recess under the rear jack point.
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Now for the money cut. I like to put it under the cross member so its not seen. But it takes a bit of patience not to cut the tubes.
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Ready to be welded in after the tunnel gets treated.
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Posted by: raynekat Jul 11 2017, 12:11 PM

That Eastwood internal frame coating system looks like a good way to go.

Posted by: Fatboy007 Jul 11 2017, 01:50 PM

Very nice...looks clean. biggrin.gif

Posted by: cary Jul 21 2017, 10:17 PM

Seems like I've been gone forever ....................
Thursday and Friday's work.

1. Finished up the muffler that Doug is selling to a friend here in PDX.
2. Blasted the remaining bondo from the donor cowl. sad.gif . Not real pretty, but it can be fixed. Doug is going to scour the web for a new one. I asked Gary Emory at Parts Obsolete to dig thru his stash.

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I could measure the bondo with a yardstick ................. pretty lazy work.

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Super In law starting to work on the patch patterns ................. In Case It Needs To Be Used.

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Posted by: cary Jul 21 2017, 10:39 PM

Now the fun stuff, new metal.

Prepped the flanges with U-Pol Copper Weld Thru Primer. Way less splatter.
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Built a removalable copper backer to protect the accelerator tube.
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I like putting the seam under the center support. 1. I don't have to grind down the backside penetration which makes it stronger. 2. The obvious, its hidden.
Both the center support and tunnel will be coated with Eastwood Frame Coating.
Downside you can't use butt weld clamps so its pretty tedious and slow going. Basically I tune the butt weld perfectly flat one inch at a time. Making a stitch about every inch. Then come back and link the stitches.

Used self taping screws in every other rosette hole.
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You don't need to over grind, this will be schutzed.

Posted by: raynekat Jul 22 2017, 03:44 PM

Just received back some parts from Burnham Performance out of Camarillo, CA.
Can highly recommend them.
The turnaround wasn't much over 2 weeks time.

First were my MFI throttle bodies that were bored out to S/RS spec (engine will be a 2.7 RS MFI).
Larger butterflies installed.
Everything re-plated with a Dow coating for the throttle bodies themselves.
Works of art I think.
Love the detail.

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Posted by: raynekat Jul 22 2017, 03:46 PM

Secondly, Burnham Performance restored and recurved my Bosch distributor again to RS specs.
Another great job by them.

I added a set of Pertronix magnetic points to finish it up.

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Posted by: raynekat Jul 23 2017, 08:30 PM

One of the fun parts about doing a 914-6 conversion is coming up with a game plan for the wiring harness action in the engine bay.

Going from a 914-4 wiring harness through a 914-6 engine relay board and interfacing it all with an MFI engine does have it's challenges.
I wanted to make use of as much of the existing wiring in the 914-4 wiring harness as possible.
Also needed to use the 914-6 relay as there is something called an RPM transducer (or speed switch) that is nice to have with an MFI system to eliminate backfiring on deaccerlation.
Plus I'm going "old school" and using the on board voltage regulator vs. a built-in regulator in the alternator (newer ones are this way).

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So here's me with wiring diagrams for a 1971 914-4, 914-6, and 1973 911 E,S,RS trying to figure out what goes where.
This was made all the more challenging by the fact that my wife and I just had twins.
Talk about reinventing the wheel a couple of times.
I'd get so far with my plan of action then it was time for the twins.
Then where was I? How far did I get?
Maddening really, but eventually I got there.
Had to learn how the std Porsche round relays worked, how the cold start relay and accompanying thermo-time switch works, and how the RPM transducer and fuel shutoff solenoid on the MFI pump worked.
After that....simple as connecting the dots.

I'll have to add a couple of additional wires down the tunnel for the different 911 gauges I'll be using....oil pressure/oil temp.
But everything else can be dovetailed into the existing wiring.
Even on the 914-6 engine relay board, I'm repurposing the rear window heater relay as the fuel pump relay.

Eventually, I put together my own 914-6 relay panel current flow/wiring diagram.

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Posted by: raynekat Jul 23 2017, 08:36 PM

All the various switches and relays attached.
Nice NOS 1971 914-4 chassis wiring harness that I purchased from Aase Porsche many moons ago.

Of course laying this all out in the comfort of my air-conditioned office at home.

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Posted by: raynekat Jul 23 2017, 08:37 PM

Every wire connection identified, traced, confirmed and labeled for later installation into the chassis.

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Posted by: cary Aug 1 2017, 07:52 AM

It's time for the throw down to begin ............

I'm taking a couple weeks off from Rothsport to focus on getting Doug's car finished up.
Looks like a I could have timed it a little better. PDX forecast for the next few days, over 100. welder.gif

Posted by: tygaboy Aug 1 2017, 07:56 AM

Beautiful work... I could watch it all day.

Posted by: raynekat Aug 1 2017, 09:50 AM

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It's time for the throw down to begin ............

I'm taking a couple weeks off from Rothsport to focus on getting Doug's car finished up.
Looks like a I could have timed it a little better. PDX forecast for the next few days, over 100. welder.gif



I would suggest either postponing the work during this heat wave....

or starting at 5am while it's still cool and being all done by noon/1pm at the latest over the next couple of days.

We don't need any heat exhaustion cases out in Forest Grove please.

Posted by: raynekat Aug 1 2017, 12:20 PM

Latest Porsche porn to show up at my doorstep.

MFI pump rebuilt and upgraded to S/RS spec.
Sent out to MFI Werks (Mark Jung) here in Oregon.
He is the local wizard in rebuilding and modifying 911 MFI pumps.

Went through the pump completely replacing some worn parts and putting together a new space cam (S/RS spec) that can feed the new 2.7 engine.
All parts cleaned, painted, re-plated, etc.
As new from the factory.
All 6 injectors were checked for spray pattern, etc. Found a deficient one and replaced.

Pity a lot of this wonderful stuff is pretty invisible on a 914-6 engine. wink.gif

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Posted by: raynekat Aug 1 2017, 12:21 PM

In addition, Mark supplies a nice flow chart for the pump with the new space cam configuration.

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Posted by: raynekat Aug 2 2017, 05:32 PM

Today I delivered a mountain of engine parts to Rothsport Racing here in the Portland, Oregon area.
Didn't know a disassembled 911 took up so much space in my garage, but now it's out.
Yeah!

Over the coming months these boxes of parts will be transformed into a 2.7 RS spec MFI engine making about 210hp.
Should be just about right for the narrow bodied GT vision of a car I have.
They'll also be reworking the gearbox.
904 mainshaft with some fun gearing that should make this car sing....and really move out.

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Posted by: cary Aug 3 2017, 06:57 AM

Jeff (Rothsport) is adding pressure to the Throwdown .................. the day I start he calls for the engine parts. LOL.

Posted by: cary Aug 3 2017, 07:27 AM

Throwdown Day #1.

While I'm working on the floor Super In Law is working on the patches for the cowl.
Which involves creating jigs for the reassembly. The last few weeks I went thru both Parts Obsolete and High Performance House and didn't find a cowl/windshield. sad.gif So we'll make the donor piece gooder than new.

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Before I continue with the floor weld in it was time to check the door gaps, all is well.
I tweaked one just a smidgen to match Matt's doors. The H measurement is kind of ambiguous, the latch plate angles back. The 1039mm is basically dead center in the latch. But dead center is covered by the brace plate. One side F is a little tight, 2mm. Which throws off the X a smidgen. All still within tolerances but I'll tweak a little when the floors done and we weld in the cowl. Then back to burning metal.

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Got the inside portion of the floor all welded in.
This one I welded from the old metal to the new. I might try going the other direction next time. The heat needed for the new metal is a bit much for the outside edge of the old flange. I've been called anal and Rembrandt. LOL. It really doesn't make a lot of difference it all gets covered by seam sealer. But I know ............
Primarily used the belt sander to tune up the welds.

Ended the day with the inside temp at 98. Helps keep the metal warm .......

Posted by: cary Aug 3 2017, 07:29 AM

Throwdown Day #2.

Patched the cut out in the corner first thing.

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Finished up the tuning up of the welds on the inside. Then it was time to get down to business. Welding the floor to the engine firewall. Because this was a Rust Free car there wasn't too much damage/degradation to the flange.

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Could have used a couple more Vise Grips and clamps. LOL. All the weld thru primer seen thru the rosette holes was removed with a squared off 1/8" drill bit.

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Ended the day right on schedule.

At days end inside temp 100. Outside 104. Oh baby.
Doug sent me a text reminding me that Rothsport has AC. LOL.

Jack points ready for the AM.
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Posted by: cary Aug 3 2017, 07:39 PM

Day #3 ....................

All pieces installed with U-Pol copper based weld thru primer. The new RD sheet metal was brushed with a wire wheel. Then wiped down with paint prep. Then sprayed with weld thru primer.

Beginning of the day ..............

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Welds not tuned up yet. I'm going to lengthen my stick out to get a little more heat. I'm getting too used to the .030 wire at Rothsport.

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Built up seat brackets.

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Outside brackets located and attached with self tapping screws.

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Quitting time ...................

Posted by: raynekat Aug 3 2017, 10:01 PM

Everything is looking great.
After such a hot day in your shop, sure hope you and Jack had time for a nice cool one after work?

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Posted by: cary Aug 5 2017, 10:13 AM

Day #4 on the ThrowDown.
Worked on the reworking of the CDI bracket for mounting to the battery tray. The design.
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Bracket trimmed down.
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Both ends of the ECU bracket will be trimmed off and rounded. A couple more mounting nuts will be welded to the ECU bracket. Flange on the battery tray will get extended to put the corner ECU mounting hole in the right place. Plus another mounting hole. I'll give the new right side a little tune up with the belt sander. Then I'll weld the CDI bracket to the ECU bracket.
Then off to powder coating. Super In Law modified the CDI bracket.

Unboxed the Mad Dog 914 GT stiffening kit. Cleaned with grease and wax remover. Then sprayed with U-Pol weld thru primer.
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Laid out the engine tin and went back thru it again to make sure it was ready for powder coating. Doug has a new over the muffler piece coming from RD. His blasted piece had a few too many PO mods. The black piece is a pattern piece from Rothsport in case I needed to repair it. Is the new RD piece cut away for the chain tensioner lines ? That will need to be done before powder coating.
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The seat belt bracket weld in will come tonight. Slept in (took wife to the movies), its time to go back out to the shop. Super In Law is chomping at the bit.


Posted by: cary Aug 5 2017, 10:59 PM

Now where was I. Here's Rick's measurements to get you started.
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I used the seat frame to set the alignment of the inner seat bracket.
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Drivers side went in without a hitch.

On this early car setting the left seat is even easier. You still have the solid nutserts in the cross member.
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That was the end of the good times on the passenger seat.
I installed (welded in) the adjustment bracket 3/32" off. hissyfit.gif hissyfit.gif
I used the usual measurement 11" on center from the outside wall. Checked 3 other cars here on sight. But to get the seat 100% straight ahead, it was off. So it had to come out. Dammit ............
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But by the end of the day I was back on track. Still pissed ....................
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Posted by: cary Aug 6 2017, 12:45 AM

Started Day #5 locating my second left seat frame to confirm the mounting alignment.
Then it was on to the preparing the right rear wheelhouse for the Mad Dog 914 GT stiffener panels.
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All of the epoxy primer needs to be removed from under the outside edge of the panels.
If left, it would add impuritys into the weld. barf.gif

Then it was time to start pounding.
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Needed to cut one slit ...................
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Then it was time to fit, hammer, fit, hammer, fit, hammer. Then start screwing it down tight.
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All of the above pretty simple. This one not so much. Multiple angles and quite a few nip and tucks.
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Posted by: cary Aug 6 2017, 08:44 AM

As I'm working on the chassis Super In Law is refurbishing the cowl .................
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Posted by: cary Aug 6 2017, 09:01 AM

Fell asleep last night while writing the post ...........
The underneath piece is the only tricking one. It twists and turns a couple directions. I marked where I trimmed things off to get a nice tight fit.
Reminds me of being in rally car build mode.
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When it comes time to start welding. I'll flaten the tip of a drill bit to scrape off the epoxy as I weld each rosette.




Posted by: raynekat Aug 7 2017, 05:17 PM

When these stiffening plates are welded in....is it just the rosette welds or do you also seam weld the perimeter as well? Definitely will add some strength to the tub.

Or do you just use seam sealer around the perimeter of each stiffening plate to keep moisture and corrosion away?

Posted by: cary Aug 7 2017, 07:43 PM

Calls out seam welded too. Edges have been prepped for seam welding.

Posted by: raynekat Aug 7 2017, 08:41 PM

QUOTE(cary @ Aug 7 2017, 06:43 PM) *

Calls out seam welded too. Edges have been prepped for seam welding.


Whoa...that's going to take some time...and heat.
Stay cool my friend.

Posted by: cary Aug 7 2017, 10:26 PM

You're right, I got the Miller cranked up even for the rosettes. 16ga being welded to an additional 2 layers. welder.gif

I'm pretty anal about the heat build up in the steel. Every new rosette isn't welded until the area is cooled to 105 degrees or less. I use the infrared to test as I go.
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Installed the 5 right side stiffeners. Nothing new to show.

Then it was time to start welding some rosettes ..........................
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2 down and 8 pieces to go .......... welder.gif
Then I'll go back and do the seam welding.

Posted by: cary Aug 8 2017, 12:20 AM

Here's a couple shots of my door gap measurement tool.
One end on the door light switch. The other would actually sit right in the middle of the door latch. So on the outside it's a couple mm's from the radius.
Tool is piece of bar stock cut to 1039mm. Easy to grab and measure.
I'm checking it every time a weld in a new piece.

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Posted by: cary Aug 9 2017, 07:36 AM

Day #7. Worked a little over a half day. Finished up the rosette weld in on the right side. I have 2 of the left side welded in.
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Spent the other half of the day beginning to assemble and install the suspension and brakes on Matt's restoration.
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Posted by: cary Aug 10 2017, 07:58 AM

Day #8. Only put in a couple hours welding yesterday. I'm trying to run 2 races. Get Doug's car to paint. Get Matt's car put together so he can make it to Okteenerfest. Planning on another 2 hours this am. All the rosettes will be welded in and ground down.

Posted by: 914_teener Aug 10 2017, 09:31 PM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Aug 1 2017, 11:20 AM) *

Latest Porsche porn to show up at my doorstep.

MFI pump rebuilt and upgraded to S/RS spec.
Sent out to MFI Werks (Mark Jung) here in Oregon.
He is the local wizard in rebuilding and modifying 911 MFI pumps.

Went through the pump completely replacing some worn parts and putting together a new space cam (S/RS spec) that can feed the new 2.7 engine.
All parts cleaned, painted, re-plated, etc.
As new from the factory.
All 6 injectors were checked for spray pattern, etc. Found a deficient one and replaced.

Pity a lot of this wonderful stuff is pretty invisible on a 914-6 engine. wink.gif

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Oh man......that is MFI porn...I love MFI.

This is one of my favorite threads. Hope you guys can make in down to So Cal sometime so I can check out this work.

It is great seeing this work. It cannot be underestimated the amount of time a patience it takes to do this work. Nice stuff Doug and great work Cary.

Posted by: cary Aug 11 2017, 08:26 AM

The rosette welding has been completed on both sides. beer.gif Pretty tedious.
I'm thinking the seam welding will be worse. I'll do it in 1" stitches.
Nice thing is I'll be able to tune the heat down. I only need to weld to the outer layer.
This is the end of the Throw Down. Heading to the Eagle Cap Wilderness for a 6 day backpacking trip.
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Like always, I'd didn't get as far as I wanted too. But put a good dent in it.


Posted by: raynekat Aug 12 2017, 09:33 AM

While Cary's off hiking in the woods collecting mushrooms.... tongue.gif

Been working on the NOS wiring harness some more.
Although NOS, untouched and basically new....sitting on the shelf for 40+ years has it's issues.
Most of the wrapping tape has lost it's stick-um if that's a word for it.
It all needed replacing.

Additionally, the NOS 1971 wiring harness doesn't come with all the little bits of aux wiring you need....like the jumper between the two horns up front.

My original one, like the main wiring harness, was in rough shape.
Lots of paint overspray, iffy connectors and a cracking sheath meant a new one was in order.

So after about 30 minutes I came up with following replacement.
Nearly factory (except for the wire colors) and will more than meet my needs.

Amazing what you can do when you've got the right materials and some patience.

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Posted by: raynekat Aug 12 2017, 09:37 AM

I've always got on hand the correct wire connectors and the right tool for the job.
Add in some heat shrink tubing from the local hardware store and you're in business.

If the local hardware/auto parts store doesn't have what I need....I go to Belmetric for the electrical non-insulated connectors and McMaster-Carr for special heat shrink tubing and plastic sheathing materials.



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Posted by: mepstein Aug 12 2017, 10:05 AM

QUOTE(raynekat @ Aug 12 2017, 11:37 AM) *

I've always got on hand the correct wire connectors and the right tool for the job.
Add in some heat shrink tubing from the local hardware store and you're in business.

If the local hardware/auto parts store doesn't have what I need....I go to Belmetric for the electrical non-insulated connectors and McMaster-Carr for special heat shrink tubing and plastic sheathing materials.



These builds are quite the journey.
Thanks for posting.

Posted by: raynekat Aug 12 2017, 03:08 PM

Working or mocking up the new LED headlight bulbs from 914 Rubber.
Assembling in the newly painted headlight assemblies.
New plating and fasteners in most areas.

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Posted by: raynekat Aug 12 2017, 03:10 PM

The H4 assemblies from 914 Rubber are quite nice.
The H4 fluting on the glass doesn't scream "LED lights."
I like that.



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Posted by: raynekat Aug 12 2017, 03:14 PM

Wet sanded and painted my "white" headlight surrounds.
They were beyond help from a simple bleach soaking.
I used a paint made for plastic and the color was heirloom white.
Put a couple coats of clear on it.
Should be great for a driver.

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Posted by: cary Aug 22 2017, 07:38 AM

Back at it. Seam welded in the left 3 fender portions of the Mad Dog GT stiffening kit.
With cooling down between welds it took about 4 hours, 3-4 stitches at a time.
5-6 and you could hear the the metal expand under the weld. Too much.

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Posted by: mb911 Aug 22 2017, 08:06 AM

QUOTE(cary @ Aug 22 2017, 05:38 AM) *

Back at it. Seam welded in the left 3 fender portions of the Mad Dog GT stiffening kit.
With cooling down between welds it took about 4 hours, 3-4 stitches at a time.
5-6 and you could hear the the metal expand under the weld. Too much.

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Yup about the same for me.. Takes awhile..

Posted by: cary Aug 23 2017, 08:03 AM

It's Tuesday and back at the welder.

First piece of the day was the left suspension tie stiffener. Had a few issues with impurity's coming up thru the weld. Primarily epoxy primer down in the crack and crevices. It doesn't take that great a picture after I get it all tidied up. mad.gif
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Then on to the left long "elbow" piece. Decided to do the top seam first. Might as well get the hard part out of the way. Pretty tricky getting in there. I was triggering the MIG gun with the left hand and guiding the stick out with my right. But I had to dig out my Miller scuba mask to get my head in there. The warmer weather made using the scuba mask much easier. it didn't seem to steam up. Or maybe it was the taking it off while letting it cool.
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Then I seam welded the left and bottom. Decided on three stitches attaching it to the jack point. Just in case in 50 year it needs to come off.
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Then onto welding in the right 3 piece inner fender stiffener combo. Ended the day about half way completed.
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Posted by: raynekat Aug 31 2017, 05:18 PM

Fiddling around with my side shift rear rod today.
The one I had to work with was really worn badly back at the rear of the car.
Obviously the plastic bushing had worn out allowing the rod to rub back and forth
on the rear housing.

I tried to clean it up the best I could with a file, but the rod wasn't really moving in the
new plastic bushing all that smoothly.

A quick search online for a new rear rod was not what I wanted to hear.
AA has one for a mere $500.
Ouch.
I was worried that another 2nd hand rod would be worn as badly as well.
Really....how many people keep that rear plastic bushing in great shape or change them out at all?

So instead I removed the old end from the rod.
This took some doing as I needed to cut back far enough to get through all the spot welds holding the end into the bar.
But finally had success.

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Next I needed to find a replacement rod end.
McMaster-Carr is one of my "go to" places for tough to find items.
I ended up buying a foot long piece of "tight tolerance multipurpose O1 tool steel rod."
Tight tolerance is the key word here.
They have a lot of different rod diameters....not just your typical 1/4, 3/8, 1/2" etc.
Careful measuring yielded me purchasing the 0.6094" diameter rod.
This worked fine but needed a bit of fine tuning on the ends.
The 0.594" diameter would have worked better I think.
But in the end, I sawed my new rod to the correct length and drilled a new hole for the conical screw.

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Posted by: raynekat Aug 31 2017, 05:22 PM

Then I aligned the hole for the conical screw; I had marked the rod in yellow paint where the hole was aligned previously.
Then hammered it into place.
Next time I'm over at Cary's shop (MiddleMotors), I'll get him to tack weld this guy into permanent position.
A coat of paint and it will be like new again.
This new rod end will move in the plastic bushing like a greased pig now.
Certainly ready for the next 100k miles....
And the best part....a 10 dollar fix beats a $500 new part every day of the week.

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Posted by: raynekat Aug 31 2017, 06:39 PM

Quick pic sent to me today of the 2.7RS short block that Rothsport is building for me.
Case is a 7R variety.
Long block should be complete in the next week (or two).
Engine will have S cams and S/RS spec MFI for the induction.


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Posted by: raynekat Sep 1 2017, 09:29 PM

My new seatbelts arrived from Seatbelt Planet today.
A bit of a custom application.
Sent them my tongues as I wanted to use them and the factory receivers.
The belts and retractor mechanism and other hardware are all new.
These will be a big improvement over the "fixed" early belts that a 71 would come with.
I've had the seat belt mechanism provisions from a later car welded into my back pad sheet metal to bring the car up to modern seat belt capability.
Thanks to Cary and Middle Motors for all that work.

The belts I chose are navy blue to go with my tartan plaid seats.
Subtle hopefully but custom and different from stock.

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Posted by: raynekat Sep 1 2017, 09:34 PM

Also today in the mail arrived my "custom" gear shift knob.
Not sure how to describe this other than an "old world craftsman" making these.
He's from Mexico and a lot of guys on the 911S Early registry put these in their cars.
I saw one that caught my eye (checkered pattern) and went with that plus some of my own ideas.
This guy uses exotic woods and it's all hand crafted (inlayed, laminated, the works) to come up with "one of kind" knobs.
Just what my car needed I thought.
Suppose you need to know where all the gears are? tongue.gif Think I can handle that one. Ha
Mated to my side shift transmission updates.

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Posted by: raynekat Sep 1 2017, 09:40 PM

Last on the agenda for today was finishing up the mods to my NOS chassis wiring harness.
Finished hooking up everything to the gauges today which entailed coming up with a couple of ground "jumpers" for the 911 gauges I added.
There's a bit of additional wiring that needs to happen when you're transplanting a 911 six cylinder engine into the car.
My special crimpers and heat shrink plus some brown wiring took care of it.

Tomorrow I'll post pics of the entire NOS harness with the new harness tape and "mods."

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Posted by: raynekat Sep 2 2017, 08:35 PM

Worked on getting the new gauges all hooked up into the NOS 71 wiring harness.
This necessitated adding a couple of ground jumpers and additional wires.
You'll see the orange wire coming in from the left.
That will feed the oil pressure signal from the engine.
The amber warning light will become my low fuel warning light.
Since I don't have the 914-4 multi-gauge anymore, I had North Hollywood Speedo put a fuel gauge in the bottom of the tach.
There was no provision anymore for a low fuel warning light.

Anyway....all the terminals or bulbs have a dedicated wire now and should work as desired.
Quite a busy area this is behind your gauges.

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Posted by: raynekat Sep 2 2017, 08:48 PM

Refurbished the 914-6 engine relay panel I had sourced.
A thorough cleaning was necessary.

A couple of the copper traces on the backside were not making good contact with the connector on the front of the board.
These needed to be re-soldered.
Additionally, the potting on the backside had seen it's better days.
I re-potted that with some interesting stuff.
It's called Magic Gel 300 and it's made by Ray Tech.
A 2 part solution you mix up and "gels" up in about 10 minutes time.
I like it because it's translucent....so you can see the copper traces on the backside.

Finally I had to locate a couple of relays for the panel.
The RPM transducer (box at the top) was spendy but necessary I thought with the MFI motor I had planned for.
This electronic gizmo shuts off fuel to the MFI pump when you are coasting both saving you fuel and preventing back firing.



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