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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:37 AM
914 F8:
Here are some photos of the 914-8 with the factory908 engine installed tight fit.
Nice car: it has a lot of extra goodies that make it unique.
Headlights are two light per side.
I like the outside fuel filler cap, I did the same thing on my 914, it beats opening the trunk every time for gas.
Also the gear shifter rod runs in front of the passenger seat out towards the door and then runs back to the trans.
If any ones has any more photos that would be great to see them.
Enjoy
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:38 AM
more 914 F8 engine
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:39 AM
914 F8 front oil cooler
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:40 AM
Front trunk 1
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:40 AM
Sorry for got to add picture of the front trunk
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:41 AM
front trunk #2
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:42 AM
Gas filler out side
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:43 AM
inside front trunk drivers side
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:44 AM
gear shifter
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Posted by: URY914 Feb 8 2005, 09:44 AM
I need to get one of 'em flat-8's for my car. Whata think $100K? 
Paul
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:45 AM
Inside driver's side
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:46 AM
light cover
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:46 AM
rear bumper
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:50 AM
rear view
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:51 AM
Side view
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:52 AM
Ersnt with 914-8 at photo shoot for his book
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Posted by: drew365 Feb 8 2005, 09:53 AM
I wonder what the shifting is like with the rod making a couple extra turns?
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:53 AM
Ernst and Dave looking at the engine.
HuMMMM, 
I wonder if we replaced this with a SIX if they would notice 
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 09:54 AM
Silver 914-8 sun roof
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 10:00 AM
| QUOTE (URY914 @ Feb 8 2005, 07:44 AM) |
| I need to get one of 'em flat-8's for my car. Whata think $100K? Paul |
I don't know about the price but your car at 1500lbs and 300 plus hp at 9,0000rpm.
Talk a bout a Screaming Eagle.
You would be truly unstoppable.
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 10:03 AM
| QUOTE (drew365 @ Feb 8 2005, 07:53 AM) |
| I wonder what the shifting is like with the rod making a couple extra turns? |
I don't know , were not able to drive it for our selves.
If one works with the Factory and plans a media day for a Porsche Magazine, (Excellence, Panorama)you might get a chance.
I have a diagram of this set up, when I can I will scan and load it.
Thanks
Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 8 2005, 10:06 AM
minor hijack for something of interest. note the shape of the fender at the turn signal, and the lense too. did #4 have euro lenses? back to your previously scheduled programing.
k
Posted by: Root_Werks Feb 8 2005, 10:11 AM
Thanks for all the great pictures. I love seeing the history behind these cars and the "Could have been's" 
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 10:18 AM
| QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Feb 8 2005, 08:06 AM) |
| minor hijack for something of interest. note the shape of the fender at the turn signal, and the lense too. did #4 have euro lenses? back to your previously scheduled programing. k |
The 914-8 was a pre 914, Chassis #914111, I think they produced many one off's for the car.
The front fender is round and the front lens has a lift instead of a curve shape like the current 914's have.
In the Big 914 book from Germany you can see the clay mock up of this idea.
I do not understand the #4 question about euro lens.
In Europe the 914 front turn signal lens is two colors, Bottom white for the driving light used in the cities and the amber/yellow for the turn signal.
In the rear Amber for turn signal and Red for brake and driving light or first position on the light switch.
I hope that I did not mess up your question to much.
Thanks
Posted by: dakotaewing Feb 8 2005, 10:22 AM
Quilmes,
The the Ernst in the photos Ernst Haas?
Thanks -
Thom
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 10:25 AM
| QUOTE (dakotaewing @ Feb 8 2005, 08:22 AM) |
| Quilmes, The the Ernst in the photos Ernst Haas? Thanks - Thom |
No sorry it's Ernst Mastenbroke ( I think that I just killed his last name) now I will get a call from Holland.
What the #^@* can't you spell my name right??? 
Posted by: seanery Feb 8 2005, 10:33 AM
Kevin, I believe both the front and rears have the same shape as #4.
Posted by: BigD9146gt Feb 8 2005, 10:34 AM
So were the 914-8 engines the twin cam or the single cam?
Posted by: Gustl Feb 8 2005, 10:35 AM
| QUOTE (Quilmes @ Feb 8 2005, 05:25 PM) |
| What the #^@* can't you spell my name right??? |
the correct spelling is: Ernst-Jan Mastenbroek
I guess the second guy is Dave Fagan ?
the #4 question referes to #914114, which has got the same turn light lenses
here's one photo from the same shooting at "Schloss Langenburg"
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Posted by: Gustl Feb 8 2005, 10:40 AM
there are lots of photos from 914111 at http://home.planet.nl/~fagan000/porsche.html
enjoy it
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 10:46 AM
| QUOTE (Gustl B @ Feb 8 2005, 08:35 AM) | ||
the correct spelling is: Ernst-Jan Mastenbroek I guess the second guy is Dave Fagan ? the #4 question referes to #914114, which has got the same turn light lenses here's one photo from the same shooting at "Schloss Langenburg" |
Thanks Gustl B, for the save.
You know the heat in Florida get's to ones head. Can't remember names???
I was wondering what the #4 was about?
Yes that is Dave, I have those photos somewhere just have to go find them.
Motor Klassik from 1/1990 did the article on this 914-8 and also the Silver 916
Called Jorgs Traum!!! I think that it is everyone dream.
Klaus Parr from the Porsche archives let me look through countless B&W photos, as the day was ending he told me " We also have many in Color photos, Racing 914-6 GT’s, 916 Catalogue etc.
I ask can I see them, It was already 6pm, he said I must come back another day, I was leaving the very next day.
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 10:49 AM
| QUOTE (Gustl B @ Feb 8 2005, 08:40 AM) |
| there are lots of photos from 914111 at http://home.planet.nl/~fagan000/porsche.html enjoy it |
Thanks great web site, as you can tell I have been removed from this for some time now.
I hope to get back in the swing soon
Danke
Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 8 2005, 10:54 AM
Yes, the #4 car has the same inner fender details too. Really rough pounding and a welding seam from being a pre-porduction model.
Far as I know only the 2 flat 8 cars and the #4 (9141114) car are the only protypes to exist today.
Geoff
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Posted by: Gustl Feb 8 2005, 11:00 AM
be sure that I couldn't tell the correct spelling out of my brain ... I have the book next to my computer 
I own the Motor Klassik 01/1990 - nice article with superb photos
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| Klaus Parr from the Porsche archives let me look through countless B&W photos, as the day was ending he told me " We also have many in Color photos, Racing 914-6 GT’s, 916 Catalogue etc. I ask can I see them, It was already 6pm, he said I must come back another day, I was leaving the very next day. |
damn, I bet this would be fantastic ...
I'd really love to see a 916 brochure
they have never been official
Posted by: Gustl Feb 8 2005, 11:04 AM
| QUOTE (Bleyseng @ Feb 8 2005, 05:54 PM) |
| Yes, the #4 car has the same inner fender details too. Really rough pounding and a welding seam from being a pre-porduction model. Far as I know only the 2 flat 8 cars and the #4 (9141114) car are the only protypes to exist today. Geoff |
nto really - #914120 also exists
it's in germany and needs to be restored
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Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 8 2005, 11:09 AM
yep, hammered wheelwells too. the sill area detail on the f8 car would be interesting to compare. q & g, check out the oct 04 issue of excellence. specificly the wcc writeup. pictures of #914114 are included in the article. i tried to find some pictures using the search feature but it exceeded the time limit..
k
Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 8 2005, 11:15 AM
looks like this guy his having an orgasm 
Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 8 2005, 11:32 AM
What is the story on the #20 car?
Posted by: ematulac Feb 8 2005, 11:36 AM
Great pics.
See how wide those headlamp covers are? I'd like to see the configuration of the headlamps in there.
Posted by: Britain Smith Feb 8 2005, 11:37 AM
Can someone explain all the stuff in the front trunk? What are those bottles?
-Britain
Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 8 2005, 11:42 AM
NOS!
Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 8 2005, 11:42 AM
| QUOTE (Britain Smith @ Feb 8 2005, 10:37 AM) |
| Can someone explain all the stuff in the front trunk? What are those bottles? -Britain |
Nitrous Oxide
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 11:50 AM
I am not 100% sure,
I think that I was told: the White tubes have something to due with the gas heater (In silver at the bottom)like on the old VW buses.
Posted by: Gustl Feb 8 2005, 11:55 AM
| QUOTE (Bleyseng @ Feb 8 2005, 06:32 PM) |
| What is the story on the #20 car? |
hardly know anything about it ...
apparently it's a sport-o-matic prototype
this car was for sale in Germany for about € 50k (about $ 65k)
don't know if sold or not
don't know if it's complete or not
I was told, that once it belonged to the son of the boss from the BOSCH company
due to the right hand lower corner of the photo it was discovered in '95
sorry, that's all I know
Posted by: SteveSr Feb 8 2005, 12:01 PM
| QUOTE (URY914 @ Feb 8 2005, 07:44 AM) |
| I need to get one of 'em flat-8's for my car. Whata think $100K? Paul |
Paul, I don't think you have enough metal left in your car to keep the frame from twisting!!!
SteveSr
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 12:12 PM
Now tha we are on the subjset of 908 engine here are some shots from Bobby Rahal 908. at Rennsport
I think that the 914-8 had dual cam per side, and twin plug. Top wires in red bottom in black. 
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 12:13 PM
908 2
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 12:14 PM
Let's try this again 908 2
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908 3
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908 4
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Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 8 2005, 12:18 PM
All of the 908 and 917 engines were double overhead cam engines. They all were based on the type 916 engine.
The bottles you see in the front trunk were for a fire suppression system.
Both of the 914/8 factory cars were prototype chassis.
Posted by: Carrera916 Feb 8 2005, 12:40 PM
Lookin at the picture of the front car....
the silver cylinderal shape thing between the two vertical white bottles is definately a gas heater and the white one seems like a fire suppression system but I noticed the hose connection at the bottom of the white bottle is so big and looks very much like the oil hose line. Of all fire suppression system that I've seen, they use probably 3/8th of an inch dia. tubing all over the car...so I dunno about that white bottle being fire suppression or maybe some sort of pre-lubricator for the engine (that would be a very big one!)...any one know for sure what the white bottles are for?
Posted by: Rand Feb 8 2005, 01:00 PM
Quilmes: 1500 lbs???!
How in the world did they do THAT? From the photos, I don't see where they could have dropped that much weight? Man I would love to get my car under 2000lbs.
What a sleeper! Not even a fender flare. Very cool.
Posted by: Gustl Feb 8 2005, 01:20 PM
the magazine "Motor Klassik 01/1990" states that the car's weight is about 2100 lbs
Posted by: Rand Feb 8 2005, 01:29 PM
That sounds a little more realistic. Even 2100lbs with an 8 though, and full interior, etc... Wow.
Posted by: brant Feb 8 2005, 01:45 PM
| QUOTE (RandyLok @ Feb 8 2005, 12:00 PM) |
| Quilmes: 1500 lbs???! How in the world did they do THAT? From the photos, I don't see where they could have dropped that much weight? Man I would love to get my car under 2000lbs. What a sleeper! Not even a fender flare. Very cool. |
I think he was referring to paul's car which actually is 1500lbs .. (well less now)
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 8 2005, 01:55 PM
| QUOTE (RandyLok @ Feb 8 2005, 11:00 AM) |
| Quilmes: 1500 lbs???! How in the world did they do THAT? From the photos, I don't see where they could have dropped that much weight? Man I would love to get my car under 2000lbs. What a sleeper! Not even a fender flare. Very cool. |
Brant: I was referring to a quote that Paul made about putting a 908 engine in his car, I think it weighs around 1,500lbs.
Posted by: URY914 Feb 8 2005, 02:15 PM
| QUOTE (Quilmes @ Feb 8 2005, 11:55 AM) | ||
Brant: I was referring to a quote that Paul made about putting a 908 engine in his car, I think it weighs around 1,500lbs. |
USED to weigh 1500 pounds
Posted by: BigD9146gt Feb 8 2005, 04:05 PM
Ok, so i have a few questions...
The first picture of the Bobby Rahal 908, the engine looks like there is a gear housing on the front of the motor for the cam drive...
Now if you fallow the link to this 907 engine, there is NO obvious cam drive... What the heck am i missing? Was the cam drive done by small flex lines that look like oil lines off the ends of the cam towers??? I'm so lost, i've been stairing at that stupid motor for hours...
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/factory_racing...parts_907engine
and knowledge or links to how those bloody cams are driven would be great.
Posted by: redshift Feb 8 2005, 06:07 PM
Nucaler reactors.
M
Posted by: r_towle Feb 8 2005, 07:47 PM
First off !!!!See it will fit!!!
Secondly, I think from what I can see the cam towers are driven from the middle of the engine by a gear, this gear seem to be attached to a maller drive shaft that is connected to the cams....
I could not find the 907 link....you linked to the 914gt page
Rich
Posted by: michel richard Feb 8 2005, 07:55 PM
See the gears in the middle of the bank
http://www.pbase.com/917carl/image/21933262
http://www.pbase.com/917carl/image/21933259
Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 8 2005, 08:02 PM
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/factory_racing_parts_907engine
Posted by: michel richard Feb 8 2005, 08:05 PM
Do I see right, in the first pictures, at the beginning of this thread, the engine compartment seems to be alot longer i.e. the panel between the engine compartment and the rear trunk is behind the strut towers !
Michel
Posted by: r_towle Feb 8 2005, 08:24 PM
| QUOTE (michel richard @ Feb 8 2005, 09:05 PM) |
| Do I see right, in the first pictures, at the beginning of this thread, the engine compartment seems to be alot longer i.e. the panel between the engine compartment and the rear trunk is behind the strut towers ! Michel |
It still fits!!!
Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 8 2005, 08:40 PM
Cool, If the rear trunk panel is moved back for the longer 8 cylinder motor, then the transaxle is also moved back! I think.. 
Quilmes, You Rock! If I ever get to Florida I want you to photo me ride!
Posted by: swood Feb 8 2005, 10:27 PM
Yeah Quilmes, you rock! You're a great addition to the group. You've been posting some great photos and great information.
Posted by: michel richard Feb 9 2005, 07:18 AM
Been thinking about this one a little more.
Does anybody know how wide the 8 cyl engine is ? with its double overhead cams and all.
It may be that with the double overhead cams it's a little wider than the regular 6 cyl, and that it may not fit between the ears of the inner rear suspension mounts, which means the engine may have to be inserted/extracted from above, which could explain the change in the configuration of the engine compartment / trunk area.
All speculation, of course, but I would be curious to know the width of the engine.
Michel
Posted by: BigD9146gt Feb 9 2005, 11:11 AM
Guys, thanks for the input... but please take a closer look at the 908 engine....
The cam gears on the 917 engine are in the middle, that is obvious. But what is also obvious is the gap allowing those gears to be between the cylinders and the cam covers also reviel a raised section for gears.
Now look at the 907 engine, no gap is obvious... the intake stacks are evenly spaced, and very close to eachother. Nothing at the ends of the motor either except what looks like oil lines.
It isn't chain driven because the top cam covers and the bottom cam covers don't have a bridge covering between the two.
Michel, i don't think the 908 engine is all that much wider than the 911 engine. Even if it was, the 911 engine still has about an inch on either side in the 914 engine bay. I too would like to know the dimensions of those engines.
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 9 2005, 11:39 AM
| QUOTE (michel richard @ Feb 8 2005, 06:05 PM) |
| Do I see right, in the first pictures, at the beginning of this thread, the engine compartment seems to be alot longer i.e. the panel between the engine compartment and the rear trunk is behind the strut towers ! Michel |
Here are some technical drawings of the 914-8 from Porsche. I got these from the Grosse VW-Porsche Buch from Michael von Klodt. Great book !!!
( I can hear the phone ringing from Germany Wavt in die Hell are you duuing chairing my drawings wit die 914club)
I looked over the drawing and the dimension of the wheel base from the 914 and 914-8 are the same 2450.5mm, the trans does sit back more and the half shafts operate at a angle like the V8 conversions.
I guess one of us will just have to go out there and do a super underneath photo shoot of the engine and from all angles.
Porsche 914-103 the rear trunk and engine cover seem to be one, I do not know if this was change later on for the 914-8???
Also some wood and clay pre-914 models included.
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 9 2005, 11:41 AM
Tech drawing 914-8 side view:
notice on the top view from the before picture, the gear shaft placed infront of the pass seat.
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 9 2005, 11:42 AM
One piece engine and trunk.
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 9 2005, 11:43 AM
914 Clay model pre model
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 9 2005, 11:44 AM
Dual headlight drawings
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Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 9 2005, 11:44 AM
| QUOTE |
| Here are some technical drawings of the 914-8 from Porsche. I got these from the Grosse VW-Porsche Buch from Michael von Klodt. Great book !!! ( I can hear the phone ringing from Germany Wavt in die Hell are you duuing chairing my drawings wit die 914club) |
Could you convince him to do an English version of this Book. That would be awesome.
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 9 2005, 11:45 AM
Actual dual headlights
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914 with dual light set up current and dual lights set up.
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 9 2005, 11:49 AM
Wood 914 work,
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Posted by: Quilmes Feb 9 2005, 11:52 AM
Wood 914 work 2.
I do not know if these photos have been posted up on this site before, If so I apologize if not I hope that you enjoy them.
Quilmes
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Posted by: Reiche Feb 9 2005, 11:54 AM
| QUOTE (BigD9146gt @ Feb 9 2005, 09:11 AM) |
| Guys, thanks for the input... but please take a closer look at the 908 engine.... The cam gears on the 917 engine are in the middle, that is obvious. But what is also obvious is the gap allowing those gears to be between the cylinders and the cam covers also reviel a raised section for gears. Now look at the 907 engine, no gap is obvious... the intake stacks are evenly spaced, and very close to eachother. Nothing at the ends of the motor either except what looks like oil lines. It isn't chain driven because the top cam covers and the bottom cam covers don't have a bridge covering between the two. |
So is it run with a bevel gear system like the older 4-cams?
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 9 2005, 11:58 AM
| QUOTE (sixnotfour @ Feb 9 2005, 09:44 AM) |
| Could you convince him to do an English version of this Book. That would be awesome. |
I think
that if we approach him and offer to due the book in English with a tech person and a good translator, It could happen.I would like to add more photos and an American section with the IMSA cars and some current racers.
I heard that there are many more photos that he had in his possession that we would all like to see.
Any volunteers
Posted by: neo914-6 Feb 9 2005, 12:07 PM
| QUOTE |
| One piece engine and trunk. |
Quilmes,
Do you know how this works? It looks like it slides back and then pivots up?
Great pics, I really appreciate the industrial design clay models and wood bulks. Do you have any concept sketches? Is this book available in the US?
Posted by: Quilmes Feb 9 2005, 12:17 PM
| QUOTE (rick 918-S @ Feb 8 2005, 06:40 PM) |
| Quilmes, You Rock! If I ever get to Florida I want you to photo me ride! |
914-8s thanks and I am happy I have a place to post my pictures that people can enjoy.
My work takes me to Minneapolis, MN 55402, ( If I am not mistaken that could be close to you)I might be going up this year before June. I can take my cameras and spare a day and photograph your 914.
Or I can help you set up your camera angle/speed/with the help of your friends and you will accomplish they same shots I do.
Again Many Thanks
Quilmes
Posted by: Gustl Feb 9 2005, 12:21 PM
| QUOTE (Quilmes @ Feb 9 2005, 06:39 PM) |
| Porsche 914-103 the rear trunk and engine cover seem to be one, I do not know if this was change later on for the 914-8??? |
this was just in the early prototype/construction phase while they were experimenting which way could be the best - same with the decision if single or double headlights
there was never a complete car with this one-part-engine-and-rear-trunk-lid
in the early phases they were even thinking about a real 3-seater, like the Matra Bagheera
Posted by: Mueller Feb 9 2005, 12:23 PM
cool pictures.....for some reason I think the flat-8 looks way better than a flat-6, it looks more "refined"
Posted by: aircooledboy Feb 9 2005, 12:24 PM
| QUOTE |
| My work takes me to Minneapolis, MN 55402, ( If I am not mistaken that could be close to you)I might be going up this year before June. I can take my cameras and spare a day and photograph your 914. Or I can help you set up your camera angle/speed/with the help of your friends and you will accomplish they same shots I do. |
Ricky's gonna get some cool pics, how much ya wanna bet?!!!
Posted by: Gustl Feb 9 2005, 12:26 PM
| QUOTE (Neo914 @ Feb 9 2005, 07:07 PM) |
| Is this book available in the US? |
unfortunately this book isn't available at all
first edition 1989
second edition 1991
they're sold out for more than 10 years
every now and then one shows up at eBay, usually they sell for about $100-150
Posted by: michel richard Feb 9 2005, 12:31 PM
Two things:
The top drawing, plan view seems to show that the engine fits between the rear suspension inner ears.
I'm pretty sure the cams are driven by a train of gears all in the same plane. We can clearly see how the 917 cams are driven on the site that covers that engine, and I suppose that some of the same parts were used on the 8 cylinders.
Michel
Posted by: Gustl Feb 9 2005, 12:33 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Feb 9 2005, 07:23 PM) |
| for some reason I think the flat-8 looks way better than a flat-6, it looks more "refined" |
now that'a a little funny to me
because both 914-8 cars were built in '69 ... most 914-6 were built laterPosted by: Quilmes Feb 9 2005, 12:36 PM
| QUOTE (Gustl B @ Feb 9 2005, 10:26 AM) | ||
unfortunately this book isn't available at all first edition 1989 second edition 1991 they're sold out for more than 10 years every now and then one shows up at eBay, usually they sell for about $100-150 |
Gustl B Hello, I hope that you are doing well, do you think that Michael von Klodt might be willing to work on another book in English. I know that he has done some other ones on BMW, Minis, 2Cv etc...
Also here is a photo for you from the 914-6 club booklet.
Next week I will start to post the 914-6GT photos and you can help me
Thanks
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Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 9 2005, 12:58 PM
| QUOTE |
| Gustl B Hello, I hope that you are doing well, do you think that Michael von Klodt might be willing to work on another book in English. I know that he has done some other ones on BMW, Minis, 2Cv etc... |
That would be GREAT,
Awesome Pic's 
Posted by: Gustl Feb 9 2005, 01:07 PM
| QUOTE (Quilmes @ Feb 9 2005, 07:36 PM) |
Gustl B Hello, I hope that you are doing well, do you think that Michael von Klodt might be willing to work on another book in English. I know that he has done some other ones on BMW, Minis, 2Cv etc... Also here is a photo for you from the 914-6 club booklet. Next week I will start to post the 914-6GT photos and you can help me Thanks |
Hi Quilmes,
let me say it with these words: I really hope that he will do an english version of his outstanding book. But I have my doubts - I mean, it's more than 15 years ago that he wrote the german version.
In my opinion it would be a logical decision to do the english translation because the USA were the largest market for the 914. But it would be logical too to come up with a german reprint. Everybody knows, that this book is the most desirable 914 book ever.
So, all we can do is hope
Many thanks for the GT pic - "S W 1947" (914 0 43 2541) is my personal favorite!
I have a nice pic with autograph from Gerald Larrousse:
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Posted by: SirAndy Feb 9 2005, 01:41 PM
| QUOTE (Quilmes @ Feb 9 2005, 09:58 AM) |
| I think :huh: that if we approach him and offer to due the book in English with a tech person and a good translator, It could happen. |
i have his (Michael von Klodt) current mailing address. i haven't contacted him yet ...
Andy
Posted by: SirAndy Feb 9 2005, 01:43 PM
| QUOTE (Gustl B @ Feb 9 2005, 10:21 AM) |
| this was just in the early prototype/construction phase while they were experimenting which way could be the best - same with the decision if single or double headlights there was never a complete car with this one-part-engine-and-rear-trunk-lid |
914103 never had a suspension mounted too it!they used it for all kinds of prototype tryouts. it was also one of the 3 cars that they put the dual headlights on ...
Andy
Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 9 2005, 01:46 PM
call me crazy.... but how hard would it be to do the double headlights?
Posted by: SirAndy Feb 9 2005, 01:51 PM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Feb 9 2005, 11:46 AM) |
| call me crazy.... |
sure thing!
it would take some fabbing ...
you'll need to enlarge the housing, then joing 2 linkages, make a custom cover, surrround etc.
the motor should be strong enough to pull the additional weight ...
modify the hood ...
can be done.
plus, convert to the prototype turn signal housing/lenses at the same time to get the "real" look ...
Andy
Posted by: GWN7 Feb 9 2005, 01:52 PM
| QUOTE (Gustl B @ Feb 9 2005, 11:07 AM) | ||
Hi Quilmes, let me say it with these words: I really hope that he will do an english version of his outstanding book. But I have my doubts - I mean, it's more than 15 years ago that he wrote the german version. In my opinion it would be a logical decision to do the english translation because the USA were the largest market for the 914. But it would be logical too to come up with a german reprint. Everybody knows, that this book is the most desirable 914 book ever. So, all we can do is hope Many thanks for the GT pic - "S W 1947" (914 0 43 2541) is my personal favorite! I have a nice pic with autograph from Gerald Larrousse: |
In the last 15 years there have been improvements in printing. You can do smaller print runs for less money. If either of you knows how to contact him (Michael von Klodt) ask, all he can say is no.
I'd be in for one, especially if there were more pictures.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 9 2005, 01:56 PM
| QUOTE (SirAndy @ Feb 9 2005, 12:51 PM) | ||
sure thing! it would take some fabbing ... you'll need to enlarge the housing, then joing 2 linkages, make a custom cover, surrround etc. the motor should be strong enough to pull the additional weight ... modify the hood ... can be done. plus, convert to the prototype turn signal housing/lenses at the same time to get the "real" look ... Andy |
i wonder how much extra drag that adds when they are up.....
dude... the hood mod is easy..... the widening of the headlight bucket is easy...... the "surround" is expensive to do.... this could all be done pretty cheaply i bet
Posted by: URY914 Feb 9 2005, 02:11 PM
Martin, how in the HELL do you get this stuff?!? Did you break into the secert files like on Mission Impossible and take pictures with your cuff link camera?
Paul
Posted by: Gustl Feb 9 2005, 02:21 PM
| QUOTE (GWN7 @ Feb 9 2005, 08:52 PM) |
| I'd be in for one, especially if there were more pictures. |
me too
Posted by: SirAndy Feb 9 2005, 02:33 PM
| QUOTE (URY914 @ Feb 9 2005, 12:11 PM) |
| Martin, how in the HELL do you get this stuff?!? Did you break into the secert files like on Mission Impossible and take pictures with your cuff link camera? |
scanner + "Das Grosse VW-Porsche Buch" ...
Andy
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