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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Gracing the Green in a 914: The first and only appearance of a Porsche 914 LE Can Am at an Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance event
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 16 2015, 12:48 PM
The 2015 20th Anniversary of the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance, arguably the better of the two most prestigious car shows in the world, did a great service to a car that has long been overdue. It celebrated and honored the Porsche 914 as its featured marque for the 20th Anniversary of the Concours, displaying the 914 in unprecedented form. So much so, that it did not include any other classic Porsche models in the Porsche section. All the green was reserved just for the 914. Only a handful of other Porsche models were present at the Concours, a few in the Rally section and a few production cars in an assortment of other marques. But the Concours would have no other cars occupy the Porsche field to deter attention from the 914. In fact, it left a large open green in front of the display, commanding attention and demanding the respect it deserves. Only the rarest of the rare in the 914 family were on display at the Sunday Concours, save one impeccably restored 914/6. A 916 (11 made), a slew of historically significant 914/6 GT race cars, and the infamous one and only 350 bhp prototype 914/8 that belonged to Herr Pierch himself.
On the Saturday Cars and Coffee at The Concours event, a handful of 914s graced the Concours green as well, one of which being the rarest of the 914 productions cars sold to the public - the LE Can Am. A 'Creamsicle' no less, the rarer by almost half of the remaining two American Limited Edition Can Am production cars (Creamsicle and Bumblebee).
This is for the fans of the LE.
High Resolution pictures of the car are available for those interested. Enjoy! 
Posted by: Mueller Mar 16 2015, 01:16 PM
All that and no pictures of said car on the grass?
I'm skeptical until I see a picture or 2 (hundred)
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This was very cool for us to finally meet in person for the first time after knowing of each other for a while.
I was in my LE at a stop light at a large 4-lane/4-way intersection by the Ritz at Amelia. This guy, never seen him before, comes running across the street towards me with a big smile, right up along side my car to shake my hand and introduce himself, "Hey, nice to meet you! I'm Steve!" I said, "Nice to meet you too!" I didn't realize until later when we ran into each other on the green by the 914s. Then I put two and two together. We're the two.
There's only two original/complete/driving LE Can Am Creamsicles in Florida. One is mine and one is his. Great to finally meet you, Steve! 
Posted by: URY914 Mar 16 2015, 06:12 PM
Please post more pictures of your car.
Posted by: scotty b Mar 16 2015, 06:20 PM
Please post more pictures of your car.
Posted by: Ansbacher Mar 16 2015, 06:30 PM
Gee...so many pictures and not one of the 916 mentioned. It had to be in the immediate vicinity, don't ya think...
Posted by: boxsterfan Mar 16 2015, 06:46 PM
Horrible looking car. Did you see the sunvisors? Awful. Disgraceful. 
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 16 2015, 06:46 PM
Gee...so many pictures and not one of the 916 mentioned. It had to be in the immediate vicinity, don't ya think...
All those are/will be in the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance photo thread. I just uploaded all the ones of the 914/8 there. The 916 is next. This thread is just for the LE.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=246326
Posted by: Big Len Mar 16 2015, 06:50 PM
Nevermind.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 16 2015, 07:20 PM
My goodness, what humility ! What verse ! What the....
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 16 2015, 08:03 PM
Horrible looking car. Did you see the sunvisors? Awful. Disgraceful.
Actually, they're pretty nice. Perfect passenger mirror with no cracks, scratches or hazing, vinyl has not tears or rips, driver visor pocket is perfectly in tact, frame wires are straight and the foam hasn't disintegrated. They just sag a bit at the bottom which is simply age. And they're original. Which is paramount when it comes to price worth.
Posted by: URY914 Mar 16 2015, 08:26 PM
Back away from the keyboard
(never thought I'd say that.....)
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 16 2015, 08:36 PM
It's too bad when most of us are celebrating our cars and the international recognition and acclaim it just received at the highest stage in the world, that some find it "necessary" to try to rain on the parade and mocking those of us who are enjoying and relishing this moment, like a true 914 owner and admirer would. Maybe not commenting anything at all would be better. Step back from the keyboard, indeed.
And to the "What verse ! What the...." comment; you're mocking me for being articulate? Let others who are interested enjoy this thread. If you're not, then just don't comment. Don't ruin it for the rest of us. Just keep your negative comments to yourself, and show a bit of maturity and respect please. Thanks.
Posted by: somd914 Mar 16 2015, 08:38 PM
Amelia Island Cars and Coffee the world's most prestigious car show? Let's stick to the facts please...
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 16 2015, 08:42 PM
Amelia Island Cars and Coffee the world's most prestigious car show?
No, the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance, which is inclusive of 4 days of events. It's always been the Pebble Beach Concours, mostly because it's been around much longer and set the standard. But in recent years, many at Pebble Beach and the masses as a whole have preferred Amelia Island, mostly because of it's friendly appeal and demeanor instead of the "stuffy" reputation of Pebble Beach and its itinerary. Amelia is also on the same par as Pebble Beach as far as what it gets. So may just simply prefer it. Both are stellar.
Posted by: 7TPorsh Mar 16 2015, 08:45 PM
It's too bad when most of us are celebrating our cars and the international recognition and acclaim it just received at the highest stage in the world, that some find it "necessary" to try to rain on the parade and mocking those of us who are enjoying and relishing this moment, like a true 914 owner and admirer would. Maybe not commenting anything at all would be better. Step back from the keyboard, indeed.
And to the "What verse ! What the...." comment; you're mocking me for being articulate and intelligent. Yet you can't even finish your own sentence. Just don't say anything and let others who are interested enjoy this thread. If you're not, then just don't comment. Don't ruin it for the rest of us. Just keep your negative comments to yourself, and show a bit of maturity and respect please. Thanks.
Patience is a virtue; so is modesty....sorry to say you have neither quality.
Congratulations on getting your car " on the grass". Personally how big a deal can it be...I see modern Corvettes and other stuff there. I guess I have a different expectation of this event....thought it was like an east coast Pebble Beach affair.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 16 2015, 08:51 PM
It's too bad when most of us are celebrating our cars and the international recognition and acclaim it just received at the highest stage in the world, that some find it "necessary" to try to rain on the parade and mocking those of us who are enjoying and relishing this moment, like a true 914 owner and admirer would. Maybe not commenting anything at all would be better. Step back from the keyboard, indeed.
And to the "What verse ! What the...." comment; you're mocking me for being articulate and intelligent. Yet you can't even finish your own sentence. Just don't say anything and let others who are interested enjoy this thread. If you're not, then just don't comment. Don't ruin it for the rest of us. Just keep your negative comments to yourself, and show a bit of maturity and respect please. Thanks.
Patience is a virtue; so is modesty....sorry to say you have neither quality.
Congratulations on getting your car " on the grass". Personally how big a deal can it be...I see modern Corvettes and other stuff there. I guess I have a different expectation of this event....thought it was like an east coast Pebble Beach affair.
Actually yes. In fact the new Corvette was first unveiled at Amelia Island (not Pebble Beach) for the 50th Anniversary of the Corvette. Lamborghini also unveiled it's new car at Amelia Island this past weekend. The examples at the Concours date back from horseless carriages to modern cars yet to be revealed. A Concours is not specific to one genre, era or class of automobile. And yes, it is the Pebble Beach of the East. You would know if you have been.
And again if you wouldn't mind, please don't hijack this thread. And if you're going to insult me, be decent enough to send me a private message. I think I'm being more than patient. And I've been patient all day sitting at my computer, taking off work, to post pictures on three different threads for everybody. It's quite time consuming. So just say "thanks for taking the time to post all the pictures" or nothing at all. I took almost 800 photos of all the 914s and other cars that I'm sure most people here would like to see. So just enjoy them and let everybody else enjoy them too. Nobody's forcing you to look at pictures of 914s from a world-class concours event and the only time they've ever been on display like this. As if it's such a tasteless thing to some of you guys.
Besides, let's put it this way... if you insist on comparing (which is not what this thread is for)...
Pebble Beach didn't get them. Nor have they shown any. Which would you rather go to?
Posted by: scotty b Mar 16 2015, 09:07 PM
I've bitten my tongue enough.
Tommy. I think I can speak for the masses in that you have completely blown this whole thing way out of proportion, and have turned it into the Tommy show. You now have 3 threads chock full of the same pics of your car.
Your car was NOT accepted into the concourse. It was ALLOWED to be one of the cars shown at the C&C event, along with many other makes and models. It had little to do with your specific car or you, as you'd like to believe, but more about how quickly you applied or possibly who you know.
Take note of the lack of comments in your separate threads, and then take note of how many of the few comments have a negative tone. Several of the posters IMO have been politely passive aggressive with their comments by being vague, yet fully open to their intended meaning. These would be the ones you just finished slamming for not being articulate
Your enthusiasm is well understood, and your militaristic planning of events is appreciated, but seriously man, tone it down a bit. Post the pics of the OTHER cars there, and stop bloviating and trying to make yourself the all important man in charge.
You really showed your ass in that begging for help repair thread, you had deleted prior to the event once people started calling you out, and you learned nothing from that, so why should we expect you pick up on any of these comments 
Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 16 2015, 09:16 PM
I love your car.
I love 914s
I've had a few myself.
But please ! 58 pictures ?
Way over the top.
This is not reporting on a great event that we all appreciate and applaud.
This is ego and self promotion.
Thank you for the modest, impartial view of your car.
Have any more pics ?
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 16 2015, 09:17 PM
I've bitten my tongue enough.
Tommy. I think I can speak for the masses in that you have completely blown this whole thing way out of proportion, and have turned it into the Tommy show. You now have 3 threads chock full of the same pics of your car.
Your car was NOT accepted into the concourse. It was ALLOWED to be one of the cars shown at the C&C event, along with many other makes and models. It had little to do with your specific car or you, as you'd like to believe, but more about how quickly you applied or possibly who you know.
Take note of the lack of comments in your separate threads, and then take note of how many of the few comments have a negative tone. Several of the posters IMO have been politely passive aggressive with their comments by being vague, yet fully open to their intended meaning. These would be the ones you just finished slamming for not being articulate
Your enthusiasm is well understood, and your militaristic planning of events is appreciated, but seriously man, tone it down a bit. Post the pics of the OTHER cars there, and stop bloviating and trying to make yourself the all important man in charge.
You really showed your ass in that begging for help repair thread, you had deleted prior to the event once people started calling you out, and you learned nothing from that, so why should we expect you pick up on any of these comments
I have been posting all the pics of all the cars present at all the related events. The duplicates are because of separate threads. The East Coast Beach Party that I hosted have pictures from The 914 Experience which was also part of the reason for putting it on and also because not everybody is following all the threads. I want the ones in attendance to be able to see their pictures if they are not following other related threads. Not that I need to explain it. I have been sitting at my desk editing and posting pictures from the concours all day for people to enjoy.
If some of you guys are just going to continue bad-mouthing me when I've done nothing to any of you, just share the photos I took, if it's such a problem, then I'll just stop posting photos. You guys are being very rude and disrespectful and your behavior is hardly in any position to ridicule me - for what? Posting pictures of 914s that everybody has been waiting to see. I have more important things I need to do.
By the way, in regards to you saying my car was not accepted, it was allowed, there's no difference. Moreover, they asked me to bring it last year. I was late in doing registering it, so they asked me again to bring it this year. The mailer is simply a formality when you register. I'd be happy to show you the letter. You're making a lot of assumptions for no purpose other than to try to belittle me. Which is extraordinarily rude.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 16 2015, 09:20 PM
I posted half of the pictures of the car because I was spending too much time narrowing them down. It was quicker to just upload them. I had taken so many pictures because the lighting kept changing all day, starting out very overcast and all the pictures were too dark. Then they were too bright from the glare. By the end of the day the lighting was just right. I was spending too much time going through them so I just uploaded a bunch. It is not ego, it was convenience. Also, if an LE Bumblebee had been present, there would be just as many pictures of it included because that's what this thread is clearly about. Moreover, I uploaded twice as many pictures of the 914/8 if you saw: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=246326&st=220
So stop judging me and stop complaining because you have MORE pictures to see instead of not enough. Jesus...
I've got hundreds of photos still to upload of the historic
914/6 GT Sunoco #5
914/6 GT #1
914/6 GT #2
914/6 Brumos #58
914/6 GT Brumos #59
914/6 GT Fly Lufthansa #88
914/6 GT T
The 914/6 Restoration
Field group shots of all the 914s together
The 914s as they won their awards
Video of the GTs revving and driving on the green to awards
And tons more
All of which are cars that most of us have never even seen a/o heard in person before
But I guess you guys aren't interested in lots of pics from this event that you're not too keen on to begin with. If you think I posted too many pictures, then maybe you'd prefer I delete most of them. Maybe I'll just post one of each of the rest since that seems to be what you guys prefer. If any at all anymore.
It's ridiculous you guys can't just show a little respect, and that I have to keep politely asking you guys to stop. Again, I guess "thanks" (and stop harassing) is just asking too much.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 16 2015, 09:37 PM
OK, OK thank you for the pictures
You have enabled us all to have a nice glimpse of the event.
And your car.
I wish I could buy you a drink. Or five.
Take a nap.
Thank you
Rory
Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 16 2015, 09:49 PM
Maybe go de-caf next year?
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 16 2015, 09:51 PM
I'm done.
Posted by: boxsterfan Mar 16 2015, 09:52 PM
Tommy, I like your car. Scratch that....I love your car....especially LE Creamsicles.
For some reason, you took exception to my comment about your sunvisors. I guess smileys and emoticons don't come across well to you. Look at your response to my goofus comment about your sunvisors. If you could read between the lines, what I was saying was "You have a nice LE there. I wish my Alaska Blue looked as nice as your does. I'm jealous."
But alas, we digress to here.
Posted by: Mike Bellis Mar 16 2015, 09:59 PM
We are were excited for you. Congratulations.
Give it a rest. Take a time out. Your vernacular in the thread has a condescending tone as if you are rubbing it our faces. We are happy for you. enough... really... be done.
We are all happy the 914 was highlighted. All the 914's at the concourse are high dollar cars that very few of us can afford. As exciting as this is was, only bad can come of it. Now speculators are going to drive prices higher and good cars will no longer be affordable. In a couple years a rust bucket will be $20k or so.
There will be some excitement within our membership as people dream about the nest egg in the garage.
I will help drive prices up by continuing to cut up good cars and stuff wacky high horse power engines into them. BTW, you will never see my car at the concourse... I don't care. I love these cars and I don't really want the prices to be run up by a bunch of asshats with dreams of gouging.
Tony, your car looks great! Thanks for all the great photos. I'm still on the fence with the matching pants...
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 16 2015, 10:03 PM
Tommy, I like your car. Scratch that....I love your car....especially LE Creamsicles.
For some reason, you took exception to my comment about your sunvisors. I guess smileys and emoticons don't come across well to you. Look at your response to my goofus comment about your sunvisors. If you could read between the lines, what I was saying was "You have a nice LE there. I wish my Alaska Blue looked as nice as your does. I'm jealous."
But alas, we digress to here.
Hey boxsterfan. No, I didn't take your comment the wrong way. I knew you were speaking in jest. Of course I was in no way offended by it. I was just responding about their condition. Lost in translation I guess. No worries and I thank you and appreciate you for saying that.
It's the others who are being rude. This thread is about one car - the LE. And instead others have chosen (once again) to turn it into a personal attack on me. Even after asking them to stop, they continue. If they want to ruin it, then fine. I'm more than happy to look at my pictures all day long and enjoy remembering what is probably the only time ever these cars will be in one place at the same time. Too bad they weren't here to see if for themselves. Maybe Pebble Beach in 10 years for the 50th Anniversary.
None of this demeaning commentary with everybody else is related to this thread and I no longer wish to fence. They just don't know when to stop. I'd rather talk about 914s.
Posted by: ThePaintedMan Mar 16 2015, 10:09 PM
We are all happy the 914 was highlighted. All the 914's at the concourse are high dollar cars that very few of us can afford. As exciting as this
I love these cars and I don't really want the prices to be run up by a bunch of asshats with dreams of gouging.
Couldn't have said it better.
I'm particularly torn because I feel like I'm part of the "next generation" of 914 owners. My car is a total beater, but I love it for what it is. I could care less to have a concours car, though I appreciate the effort that goes into keeping one that way.
The main problem is for those of us who would like to have a nice driver 914 someday, especially in the "next generation", most of those cars will be far outside of our price range by the time we get to that point. Might as well buy a Cayman.
In the meantime, I still love working on them and living vicariously through everyone else.
Amelia was pretty cool. Maybe I'll have to stay a little longer next year.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 16 2015, 10:12 PM
We are all happy the 914 was highlighted. All the 914's at the concourse are high dollar cars that very few of us can afford. As exciting as this
I love these cars and I don't really want the prices to be run up by a bunch of asshats with dreams of gouging.
Couldn't have said it better.
I'm particularly torn because I feel like I'm part of the "next generation" of 914 owners. My car is a total beater, but I love it for what it is. I could care less to have a concours car, though I appreciate the effort that goes into keeping one that way.
The main problem is for those of us who would like to have a nice driver 914 someday, especially in the "next generation", most of those cars will be far outside of our price range by the time we get to that point. Might as well buy a Cayman.
In the meantime, I still love working on them and living vicariously through everyone else.
Amelia was pretty cool. Maybe I'll have to stay a little longer next year.My first car was a total beater too. That $500 "Lemon" piece of junk made me fall in love.
Posted by: dlkawashima Mar 16 2015, 10:35 PM
BTW, you will never see my car at the concourse... I don't care.
Too late Mike. Remember you were at the Werks Reunion, which was part of Monterery Car Week, which apparently means you were part of the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance.
Posted by: Mike Bellis Mar 16 2015, 10:41 PM
BTW, you will never see my car at the concourse... I don't care.
Too late Mike. Remember you were at the Werks Reunion, which was part of Monterery Car Week, which apparently means you were part of the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance.
Shit!
Posted by: boxsterfan Mar 16 2015, 10:58 PM
BTW, you will never see my car at the concourse... I don't care.
Too late Mike. Remember you were at the Werks Reunion, which was part of Monterery Car Week, which apparently means you were part of the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance.
Shit!
Busted!!! Haha!! That's why I now keep my car on jackstands. Keeps me out of trouble...
Posted by: brant Mar 16 2015, 11:05 PM
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Posted by: oldschool Mar 16 2015, 11:18 PM
It was super cool meeting all of you guy's,The guy that surprised me the most was scotty
I picture him a big fat dude with no hair 
...guy can be on the cover of vogue 
And Tommy love the disco pants I still have a pair. And it was great meeting all the people that hate Brad Roberts ....LOve you guy's 
Posted by: 914_teener Mar 16 2015, 11:24 PM
It was super cool meeting all of you guy's,The guy that surprised me the most was scotty
I picture him a big fat dude with no hair
...guy can be on the cover of vogue And Tommy love the disco pants I still have a pair. And it was great meeting all the people that hate Brad Roberts
....LOve you guy's Nice Jaime. Just like family hunh?
Glad your're back. Man you are freekin skinny now...best thing that ever happened to you.
FWIW....I really liked the 918 pics. Thanks for posting Tommy.
Posted by: 911buff Mar 17 2015, 01:02 AM
Tommy, first of all, I was impressed with your LE! I have wanted one (a bumble bee) since I bought my first of seven 914s back in '91 (currently have a '74 2.0). You have done an outstanding job preparing and showing a truly rare Porsche.
However, you do need to be careful about how you represent your weekend at Amelia. Although we were on the fairway (I had my '71 911T there, too) for the Cars and Coffee event, we were NOT part of the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance. We were part of a support event, much like the Carrera Cup is to Formula One. Although very entertaining and superbly organized, it is NOT a Formula One race. The Cars and Coffee get-together was a low key, non-judged eclectic mix of cars from every genre; from classic American muscle to European sports cars to Ricers. However, only a handful (I saw three) of the cars were on the fairway on Sunday. Even the gorgeous Ferrari 250 GTO recreation was not invited (it did sound AMAZING, though!!!). You should be proud of your car, it is beautiful. Just be mindful of what the Cars and Coffee is...and is not.
On another note, Painted Man, were you parked up Fletcher past Peters Point near the Beach on Saturday? We saw a cool looking 914 painted in the Falken Tire race livery. Looks kind of like your Avatar. Just wondering.
Posted by: somd914 Mar 17 2015, 04:02 AM
I attended with friends in their concourse winning cars. They are owners who have spent years of their own time and large budgets to restore their cars, yet they are quiet about this at all events I attend with them. Modesty and humility are respected virtues.
As we arrived Saturday I witnessed an everyday C4 and C5 Vette pull in with us, I saw a 80's era LeBaron, and a somewhat stock NA Miata trimmed with much aftermarket bling. This was simply a cars and coffee, yet through numerous threads you lead readers to believe you were part of the concourse itself, and now you have taken on PR role to announce that Amelia is the premier venue, though the industry feels otherwise by almost all counts.
We attended the Stirling Moss Gala Dinner Saturday. Interestingly enough we were seated with three Porsche corporate executives and a writer/editor for Panorama. We had a bit of discussion about 914s. Though they were in attendance for the C and C, not a one of them mentioned your LE. There was a lot of discussion of the 914s that would be attendance for the concourse on Sunday, however.
I purposely avoided meeting you Saturday for two reasons, 1) your thread regarding help to get your car running for the show which you had deleted, likely to remove traces of issues for potential buyers which leads me to the next item. 2) Your flirt with Creamsicle of New Zealand about potentially flipping your much loved, "impeccable" car - your definition and my definition of impeccable are far apart after looking at your car.
I concluded from these threads that you are not a classic car enthusiast, you simply want a car to get you attention and potentially profit from it - I would recommend something with a prancing horse or a raging bull on their logos as these cars fit both of those criteria. For each their own, but I'll hang with my countless true car enthusiast friends who seek not to grow their egos, but seek enjoyment and personal satisfaction from their hobby.
Posted by: billh1963 Mar 17 2015, 07:01 AM
It was super cool meeting all of you guy's,The guy that surprised me the most was scotty
I picture him a big fat dude with no hair
...guy can be on the cover of vogue He's more of a GQ guy
Just trying to add some levity, here.
Yes, a few of us have been thinking we need to a add a "Tommy's Creamsicle" forum based on recent events. However, you can just put him on your ignore list if it gets overwhelming. In the meantime, there are lots of other threads to enjoy!
Posted by: ripper911 Mar 17 2015, 07:19 AM
Reading through this thread last night definitely gave the impression that your car was on the concours with the museum pieces, which would have been great.
I'm loving the pictures of the 914/8! Now I need to find a 908 engine sitting around for cheap.
Posted by: ThePaintedMan Mar 17 2015, 07:32 AM
On another note, Painted Man, were you parked up Fletcher past Peters Point near the Beach on Saturday? We saw a cool looking 914 painted in the Falken Tire race livery. Looks kind of like your Avatar. Just wondering.
Yup, sorry I missed you (and many others on Saturday). I drove my car to C&C, then back to 57lincolnman's hotel to repair his CHT. Unfortunately it took me far longer than expected and he and I made it to the Pier pretty late. But getting it running right was worth it. I had a great time either way and it just gives me more incentive to come back next year or get out to other events to meet more of you guys and gals.
Posted by: OU8AVW Mar 17 2015, 07:44 AM
Awesome pics, awesome to have it in the show, awesome setting. Thanks for sharing.
You do need to realize that we have all been the red-headed stepchildren of the Porsche world for a long, long time. It's great to see our cars get the attention they deserve, but we're still the same insane, goofy, wing-nut, sometime a-hole people we were last week before Amelia Island. If these cars go the way of the stuck up people who now own 356s and early 911s then I'll just sell mine and ride a bicycle..... There's two reasons I own a 914, the more important reason isn't the car, it's this group of degenerates.
Posted by: brant Mar 17 2015, 07:54 AM
George is amazing! Fixing someone's car!
What a great example of the truly good reason to own these cars!
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 08:44 AM
I stated in the first post my car was there on Saturday at the Cars and Coffee event.
Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 17 2015, 08:44 AM
Gracing the Green in a 914: The first and only appearance of a Porsche 914 LE Can Am at any Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance
The rarest production 914 debut at the most prestigious car show in the world, where the 914 was celebrated in unprecedented form.
Tommy - this is the title of your thread. You seem to be making claims that you now dispute. It's obvious that you are clueless about the way your self important blathering is perceived. Get over yourself.
Your LE looks great in the pictures. You must have put in hours of time at the keyboard begging for help from this community to get it ready for the show. 
Show some gratitude.
Oh yeah, besides the funky cosmetics, can you name one thing that differentiates an LE from any other fully equipped '74 2.0L?
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 08:49 AM
I concluded from these threads that you are not a classic car enthusiast, you simply want a car to get you attention and potentially profit from it - I would recommend something with a prancing horse or a raging bull on their logos as these cars fit both of those criteria. For each their own, but I'll hang with my countless true car enthusiast friends who seek not to grow their egos, but seek enjoyment and personal satisfaction from their hobby.
yes well you couldn't be more wrong. I have owned three of these cars and not one was intended to be an investment. my first car was a junk car as you can see in the pictures. my second car I had for 10 years because it was my daily driver. my current car is in nice condition so I intended to keep it. I am not in the business of buying and flipping cars. I have owned three of these cars in the last decade and looking for another. I would consider myself an enthusiast. And if I wasn't why would I have gone out of my way to organize some things here so 914 World members could all get together and enjoy our company and have a good time. I did that because I have the convenience of living here and because I am enthusiastic about this car and wanted to bring members together to have a good time. Which they did.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 08:51 AM
KELTY360, so you have a problem with me being articulate. Too many big words?
I'm not making any claims that I am now disputing. You're just too busy trying to bash me instead of reading what I wrote which clearly is the opposite of what you claim. Pardon me for being articulate.
Posted by: BuddyV Mar 17 2015, 08:54 AM
Nice car. I am proud to see our cars at this event.....
Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 17 2015, 09:02 AM
Patdon me for being articulate.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 09:04 AM
Nice car. I am proud to see our cars at this event.....
Thanks, buddy. I think the most impressive statement was that the concors didn't allow any other model Porsche share the green with the 914. I think that was quite something. And it was pretty cool seeing that row of cars that most of us likely would never have seen.
Posted by: billh1963 Mar 17 2015, 09:05 AM
Patdon me for being articulate.
Is he asking you for a patdown? I thought you only got those from the TSA?
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 09:05 AM
Yes, I misspelled pardon with "patdon" because I'm using voice text on my phone. Excuse the technology. So what. It doesn't change or excuse your intentions.
Posted by: MDG Mar 17 2015, 09:06 AM
KELTY360, so you have a problem with me being articulate. Too many big words?
You stated you never implied your car was in the concours. KELTY clearly has illustrated... you did. In the title. Of this thread.
Aggrandizement. There's a big word.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 09:10 AM
Yes, it was at the concours, which is a four day event that includes several events. You're welcome to look up the website to see the schedule which I posted daily on the Amelia Island thread.
Look, if you guys are not interested in the LE then just stop commenting. If your sole purpose here is to gang up on me and try to make me look bad for other members it says a lot about who you are and your lack of character and integrity. And if that's the case then I'll just delete everything and stop posting pictures from the event. I've got tons of great shots of all the 914 in great detail. Don't ruin it for everybody. Just grow up and stop being assholes.
Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 17 2015, 09:13 AM
Patdon me for being articulate.
Is he asking you for a patdown? I thought you only got those from the TSA?
I'm not really sure what he's asking. Kind of sad for someone who's so articulate.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 09:20 AM
KELTY360, so you have a problem with me being articulate. Too many big words?
You stated you never implied your car was in the concours. KELTY clearly has illustrated... you did. In the title. Of this thread.
Aggrandizement. There's a big word.
I clearly stated in the very first post that my car was in the Saturday Cars and Coffee event, which by the way the official name of the event which is on the issued decal for the cars in it is "Cars and Coffee at the Concours"... because it's part of the entire 4 day event. Learn to read.
"On the Saturday Cars and Coffee at The Concours event, a handful of 914s graced the Concours green as well, one of which being the rarest of the 914 productions cars sold to the public - the LE Can Am. A 'Creamsicle' no less, the rarer by half of the remaining two American Limited Edition Can Am production cars (Creamsicle and Bumblebee).
This is for the fans of the LE. "
Posted by: billh1963 Mar 17 2015, 09:28 AM
Yes, it was at the concours, which is a four day event that includes several events. You're welcome to look up the website to see the schedule which I posted daily on the Amelia Island thread.
look, if you guys are not interested then just stop commenting. If your sole purpose here is to gang up on me and try to make me look bad for other members it says a lot about who you are and your lack of character and integrity. And if that's the case then I'll just delete everything and stop posting pictures from the event. I've got tons of great shots of all the 914 in great detail. don't ruin it for everybody. Just grow up and stop being assholes.
Tommy,
You have to realize this is all about the over the top drama that seems to run through many of your threads.
We all like pictures of cars. However, if you notice when other people post they may have one picture of their own car and then lots of pictures of the rest. Your pictures are of you and your car...over and over again. If you do post pictures, it's more of an afterthought...like, "Oh yeah, here is a picture of a 914-8". We all know what you and your car look like. What we don't know is what other awesome cars were there.
You have a nice car....enjoy it. Some of your threads come across as your car being the best example out there. It's not. Simple research shows the title history and some of the issues you have had. We all know the history. As I said, it's a nice car (I almost bought it when JRust had it posted).
I appreciate you being on the forum. We can all learn from each other. However, it's not all about you. You have had three of these cars...great. I've had 8 or more (I've lost count at the moment). There are others who have owned huge numbers who have forgotten more about 914's than I will ever know. They don't come across with the hubris you demonstrate. Show some humility
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 09:35 AM
Bill, I appreciate your words. And I'm editing my words here because I replied in a hurried and heated moment. So I'd just like to clarify:
I only posted one picture of me with my car.
Actually I did post a lot more detailed pictures of the 914-8, so I wouldn't call it an afterthought. And the reason I have so many pictures of the 914-8 posted, is because I think is the most significant 914 of all. I thought people would want to see a lot of detail in such a rare car that most of us have never seen in person.
I posted one picture with me with my car, not over and over as you say. That's not something to be ashamed of. I don't see how some accuse me of having lack of humility. I took a picture with my car, as all of us have. And wouldn't this be a proud moment to do so when our car is being honored this way? I'm excited that the 914 is being represented here, and that my car was somehow a part of all this. Everybody else who was at this thing taking pictures in front of their cars doesn't mean that have no humility, but because they are excited to be there, as they shoudl be.
I posted one page of pictures and everybody else has posted three pages of insults. I am not interested in drama and did not start it. But some little people here just insist on continuing with it, acting pathetic and just want to hate. And though I have asked repeatedly for it to stop, they continue to do so which shows their true intentions. They are not interested in the car, and accuse me of not being a car enthusiast. I'm just posting pictures from the event and all they're doing is slamming me for doing so. Maybe some people like to see different detailed pictures and angles of the car. Which is what this thread was intended for.
Posted by: billh1963 Mar 17 2015, 09:44 AM
Actually, I only posted one picture of me with my car.
And actually I have a lot more pictures of the 914-8 posted. I wouldn't call it an afterthought. and the reason I have so many pictures of the 914-8 posted, is because I think is the most significant 914 of all. I don't see how I didn't even be conceived I think of it as an afterthought with all the detailed photos I put of it.
and out of all the pictures I posted of the LE, there is only one, the very last picture with me in it. Is that something to be ashamed of to take a picture with the car? I don't see how you guys excuse me of having lack of humility. Because I took a picture with my car. Have you not ever taken a picture of you with your car? And wouldn't this be a proud moment to do so when our car is being honored this way? So I have no humility because I'm excited that the 914 is being represented here, and that my car was somehow a part of all this. I'm not entitled to take a picture with it there? That shows no humility? so everybody else who was at this thing taking pictures in front of their cars has no humility then. Is that what you're saying? Because I'm very confused as to how I'm being such a jerk here when I posted one page of pictures and everybody else has posted three pages of insults. The drama was not started by me.and it seems that most people here just insist on continuing with it acting pathetic.
I don't have a dog in this fight, I was trying to help explain why you were getting pushback. You aren't listening to what is being said. That's your right...enjoy your car. Over and out!
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 09:47 AM
I don't have a dog in this fight, I was trying to help explain why you were getting pushback. You aren't listening to what is being said. That's your right...enjoy your car. Over and out!
Bill, I appreciate your words. And I edited my words because I replied in a hurried and heated manner, for which I apologize. I understand and thank you. But they're doing it to get a rise out of me. They can't help themselves and a decent person wouldn't behave that way. They're so tough and brave behind their keyboards. There was no reason for any of this to begin with in the first place.
Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Mar 17 2015, 09:50 AM
You could always cry to admin and have this thread deleted, or you could go hang out with a&p girl and talk about us trolls.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 09:52 AM
You could always cry to admin and have this thread deleted, or you could go hang out with a&p girl and talk about us trolls.
Thank you for proving my point.
Posted by: Big Len Mar 17 2015, 09:56 AM
I don't think he's getting it.
Oh, and BTW, the next time you create a thread with such palatial and historical significance on the scale of discovering Stonehenge, the word is "marque" and not "marquee", unless you're describing a movie theater.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 09:57 AM
Sorry for the misspell.
Posted by: brant Mar 17 2015, 09:58 AM
Alpha?
Tommy,
you have been given a ton of examples and a ton of feedback about humility
I don't think you've listened to a word of it
people would like you to calm down and deflate your big head
thus the reason I recommended in another thread that you blog to yourself since you obviously want to hear your own voice
you will think I'm attacking you and I'm another jerk
truth is your attitude and narcissism is rubbing everyone the wrong way
humility is about saying thank you and actually listening
people are very easy to get along with here... you will need to make an effort though
or disappear like others that have been here in the past and struggled to make friends with the larger group
I'm actually not attacking you
I'm trying to concretely explain to you what is going awry for you
used to be the admins wouldn't delete threads
although I'm sure you will ask for it
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 10:01 AM
Thank you for the advice, Brant. I do appreciate it and will heed it. Cheers.
I'll have to respectfully disagree about hearing my own voice. I would rather people just enjoy the pictures without insulting commentary. Or just don't say anything. I feel like I have to defend myself from being attacked. But I think I'm done. Not worth my time anymore. and I doubt I'll finish posting the rest of the pictures on the Amelia Island thread now.
Posted by: Mueller Mar 17 2015, 10:20 AM
Nice looking car...wow...
Easy guys, so the guy gets a little excited and is passionate about his car, that cannot be a bad thing in my book!
Posted by: rmital Mar 17 2015, 11:05 AM
Alpha?
wow....did you actually sneak that ancient reference past everyone...
them's were some funny painstaking threads
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 11:06 AM
It was super cool meeting all of you guy's,The guy that surprised me the most was scotty
I picture him a big fat dude with no hair
...guy can be on the cover of vogue And Tommy love the disco pants I still have a pair. And it was great meeting all the people that hate Brad Roberts
....LOve you guy's Thanks, man. It was really good to meet you too. And I'll keep you posted about the shoot.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 11:13 AM
Nice looking car...wow...
Easy guys, so the guy gets a little excited and is passionate about his car, that cannot be a bad thing in my book!
Thanks you, Mueller.
All of us there were pretty excited (thrilled, actually) to be there. All the 914s on Saturday were really nice and all of us really enjoyed meeting each other and being there with our cars. I posted pics of the cars in the Amelia Island thread for everybody. Enjoy.
Posted by: Dave_Darling Mar 17 2015, 11:24 AM
I'm calling BS on that. IMHO, the only "bad" that can come of it is that the prices will go up. That was already happening--try finding a decent running 2.0L with very minimal rust for $3500 today! That's what I bought mine for...
What "good" things can happen? OK, how about more people actually appreciating the 914 for what it is? I personally think the whole "get out of here, that's just a VW" thing does get old after three or four decades, you know? How about more people like Mikey stepping up and making formerly NLA parts for these cars? Now that they're actually worth a little bit of money (wow, half as much as a new Camry!!) there's sort of almost enough money in making parts for some optimists to do so.
Sorry, but I disagree with "only bad can come of it."
Do I think this thread was a bit over the top? Yeah, I do. So I just scrolled past the last 3/4 of the photos--no problem! I also think that poking at him when he has shown that he may be a bit overly sensitive to some things is also over the top. (And that's not just pointed at you, Mike. Lots of "offenders" on that here.)
So yeah--Tommy should probably relax and not take this stuff personally. Then again, all the people telling him how wrong he is should also chill.
Speaking of which, I think I'll move along to the next thread.
--DD
Posted by: greenie Mar 17 2015, 11:37 AM
Just to clarify:
Actually, I only posted one picture of me with my car.
And actually I did post a lot more pictures of the 914-8, so I wouldn't call it an afterthought. And the reason I have so many pictures of the 914-8 posted, is because I think is the most significant 914 of all. I don't see how I didn't even be conceived I think of it as an afterthought with all the detailed photos I put of it. That and I thought people would want to see a lot of detail in such a rare car that most of us have never seen in person.
I posted one picture with me with my car, not over and over as you say. Is that something to be ashamed of? I don't see how you guys accuse me of having lack of humility. I took a picture with my car. Have you not ever taken a picture of you with your car? And wouldn't this be a proud moment to do so when our car is being honored this way? So I have no humility because I'm excited that the 914 is being represented here, and that my car was somehow a part of all this. I'm not entitled to take a picture with it there? That shows no humility? So everybody else who was at this thing taking pictures in front of their cars has no humility then? I'm very confused as to how I'm being such a jerk here when I posted one page of pictures and everybody else has posted three pages of insults. The drama was not started by me and it seems that most people here just insist on continuing with it acting pathetic, created by little people who just want to hate. And though I have asked repeatedly for it to stop, they continue to do so which shows their true intentions. they are not interested in the car, and accuse me of not being a car enthusiast. I'm just posting pictures from the event and all they're doing is slamming me for doing so. Maybe some people like to see different detailed pictures and angles of the car. Which is what this thread was intended for.
This comment about Kelty360 is over the line, he is certainly a man small in stature but really not all that hateful!
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 11:53 AM
I'm calling BS on that. IMHO, the only "bad" that can come of it is that the prices will go up. That was already happening--try finding a decent running 2.0L with very minimal rust for $3500 today! That's what I bought mine for...
What "good" things can happen? OK, how about more people actually appreciating the 914 for what it is? I personally think the whole "get out of here, that's just a VW" thing does get old after three or four decades, you know? How about more people like Mikey stepping up and making formerly NLA parts for these cars? Now that they're actually worth a little bit of money (wow, half as much as a new Camry!!) there's sort of almost enough money in making parts for some optimists to do so.
Sorry, but I disagree with "only bad can come of it."
Do I think this thread was a bit over the top? Yeah, I do. So I just scrolled past the last 3/4 of the photos--no problem! I also think that poking at him when he has shown that he may be a bit overly sensitive to some things is also over the top. (And that's not just pointed at you, Mike. Lots of "offenders" on that here.)
So yeah--Tommy should probably relax and not take this stuff personally. Then again, all the people telling him how wrong he is should also chill.
Speaking of which, I think I'll move along to the next thread.
--DD
You're absolutely right, Dave. I didn't want some to ruin it for everybody else. It's just rude. Thanks for your words and advice. You're absolutely right.
And yeah, I was saying the same thing about the "bad thing" about all this. It's great if you have cars and just buying them to flip them. But for those of us who are real enthusiasts and want to have our cars because we love them and drive them which is why we own them, yeah, we don't want them to go up. At least when we go to buy another one.
And yes, I agree. The VW thing is old. Let's not forget that 356s were practically VWs, much moreso than the 914. Not to mention that Porsche had their hands in both 2.0 engines. Even the GTs were badged as VW Porsche. Which shared VW window cranks. :/ VW and Porsche (and Audi) have shared parts for decades.
Posted by: BuddyV Mar 17 2015, 12:00 PM
Re: the flared orange car with the #1 on the side.... what's with the thin wheels? Were these used to roll onto the grass?
.... the car would not have run that way, right??
Posted by: Steve Snyder Mar 17 2015, 12:01 PM
... besides the funky cosmetics, can you name one thing that differentiates an LE from any other fully equipped '74 2.0L?
The price?
Just kidding. I actually own a fully-equipped '74 2.0L that was part of both the Amelia C&C and 2/3 of the events that Tommy organized. All I can say is that I had a blast throughout. It was great hanging out with the 914World crew, hearing their stories and experiences and seeing their cars.
Thanks to all present for making the experience one that I shall remember fondly. It was a great weekend for our weird little cars.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 12:09 PM
... besides the funky cosmetics, can you name one thing that differentiates an LE from any other fully equipped '74 2.0L?
The price?
Just kidding. I actually own a fully-equipped '74 2.0L that was part of both the Amelia C&C and 2/3 of the events that Tommy organized. All I can say is that I had a blast throughout. It was great hanging out with the 914World crew, hearing their stories and experiences and seeing their cars.
Thanks to all present for making the experience one that I shall remember fondly. It was a great weekend for our weird little cars.
Thanks you, Steve! It was great meeting you and seeing your yellow car too! There's lots of pics of it in the Amelia Island and 914 Experience threads. If you want higher res pics of them I'll be happy to send them to you.
Everybody was really nice and I'm glad you and everybody had a great time. That's what it's all about! And you're right about the price (value) definitely being a factor because of it's intended and specific limited run and what it represents. Some may disagree thinking it's just a paint job. Yes there are other things that differentiates it from the rest. Jeff Bowlsby has gladly argued it. So have I.
Interestingly though, some may not know, that an LE sold new was less than a fully optioned '74 (one of the reasons I posted my window sticker to show). It was actually less expensive to buy an LE (if you liked the cosmetics) than a regular loaded '74. And I just happen to see an original bill of sale on the LE registry yesterday where someone bought an LE and there was a dealer note on there that said "Paint bumpers black, free of charge". So I guess what's one way of getting what you want for less. :/
Posted by: Johny Blackstain Mar 17 2015, 12:09 PM
Oh yeah, besides the funky cosmetics, can you name one thing that differentiates an LE from any other fully equipped '74 2.0L?
The front spoiler- unique to the LE & functional.
Posted by: 7TPorsh Mar 17 2015, 12:10 PM
Well Cap'n. Looks like there is no keyboard to back away from. Voice activated text. No wonder these posts are so damn long and winded....AND REDUNDANT..Can't posts be limited to 132 characters like twitter?
Oh did I saw REDUNDANT?
Posted by: gandalf_025 Mar 17 2015, 12:11 PM
Seriously...
No dog in this fight
BUT.. my brain hurts after reading all of this.
I did have to keep watching though......
Posted by: 7TPorsh Mar 17 2015, 12:14 PM
Ya. Its like a train wreck.
Posted by: 7TPorsh Mar 17 2015, 12:17 PM
I went back and read the first post. Seriously who would want a high res image of your COA?
Posted by: type2man Mar 17 2015, 12:30 PM
After reading this whole thread I thought the LE was at the event on Sunday. When you scroll through page 11 on the Amelia thread, there's pictures of the LE mixed in with the 8 and the GT's so that makes it look like the car was there on Sunday too. It's a nice car but not worthy of entering in a Concour event.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 12:40 PM
After reading this whole thread I thought the LE was at the event on Sunday. When you scroll through page 11 on the Amelia thread, there's pictures of the LE mixed in with the 8 and the GT's so that makes it look like the car was there on Sunday too. It's a nice car but not worthy of entering in a Concour event.
Hey type2man. In the first post I stated that the LE was in the Saturday Cars and Coffee at The Concours (first sentence, first paragraph), as were a handful of 914s. What you saw in the Amelia Island thread were pictures from one of the other events. You must have missed the caption before the pics. The pictures from that thread are from all the events over the entire Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance weekend, not just Sunday. Some pics were from the three events I organized for 914 World members - the Friday night evening out, the Saturday morning member breakfast and drive, the Cars and Coffee at the Concours and The 914 Experience East Coast Beach party. I was uploading them in sequential order, but after a day of editing people were asking me for all my pictures of the 914/8 so I went ahead and uploaded those before finishing the pictures from the previous events. So it went 914/8, LE, 916. I haven't uploaded any of all the pictures of the 914/6 GTs.
Posted by: 76-914 Mar 17 2015, 12:55 PM
We
Give it a rest. Take a time out. Your vernacular in the thread has a condescending tone as if you are rubbing it our faces. We are happy for you. enough... really... be done.
We are all happy the 914 was highlighted. All the 914's at the concourse are high dollar cars that very few of us can afford. As exciting as this
There will be some excitement within our membership as people dream about the nest egg in the garage.
I will help drive prices up by continuing to cut up good cars and stuff wacky high horse power engines into them. BTW, you will never see my car at the concourse... I don't care. I love these cars and I don't really want the prices to be run up by a bunch of asshats with dreams of gouging.
Tony, your car looks great! Thanks for all the great photos. I'm still on the fence with the matching pants...
Mike, I'm still pissed that you & I nor our fine examples of what a 914 "can be" were invited.
It was super cool meeting all of you guy's,The guy that surprised me the most was scotty
I picture him a big fat dude with no hair
...guy can be on the cover of vogue And Tommy love the disco pants I still have a pair. And it was great meeting all the people that hate Brad Roberts
....LOve you guy's You don't have a "pair" if'n you don't wear those to the next G&R Event.
On another note, Painted Man, were you parked up Fletcher past Peters Point near the Beach on Saturday? We saw a cool looking 914 painted in the Falken Tire race livery. Looks kind of like your Avatar. Just wondering.
Yup, sorry I missed you (and many others on Saturday). I drove my car to C&C, then back to 57lincolnman's hotel to repair his CHT. Unfortunately it took me far longer than expected and he and I made it to the Pier pretty late. But getting it running right was worth it. I had a great time either way and it just gives me more incentive to come back next year or get out to other events to meet more of you guys and gals.
This and only this "willingness to help" one another is paramount in my book. And BTW Brandt, thx for helping with my breakdown at RRC.
Posted by: scott_in_nh Mar 17 2015, 01:23 PM
From your first post:
The 2015 20th Anniversary of the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance, arguably the better of the two most prestigious car shows in the world, did a great service to a car that has long been overdue. It celebrated and honored the Porsche 914 as its featured marque for the 20th Anniversary of the Concours, displaying the 914 in unprecedented form. So much so, that it did not include any other classic Porsche models in the Porsche section. All the green was reserved just for the 914. Only a handful of other Porsche models were present at the Concours, a few in the Rally section and a few production cars in an assortment of other marques. But the Concours would have no other cars occupy the Porsche field to deter attention from the 914. In fact, it left a large open green in front of the display, commanding attention and demanding the respect it deserves. Only the rarest of the rare in the 914 family were on display at the Sunday Concours, save one impeccably restored 914/6. A 916 (11 made), a slew of historically significant 914/6 GT race cars, and the infamous one and only 350 bhp prototype 914/8 that belonged to Herr Pierch himself.
On the Saturday Cars and Coffee at The Concours event, a handful of 914s graced the Concours green as well, one of which being the rarest of the 914 productions cars sold to the public - the LE Can Am. A 'Creamsicle' no less, the rarer by almost half of the remaining two American Limited Edition Can Am production cars (Creamsicle and Bumblebee).
Not to heep on, but when I read this it certainly sounded to me like you were saying your 914 was there on Sunday (still does).
"as well" implies the rarest 914's were there Saturday and Sunday i.e. the handful of rare 914's on display Sunday were there on Saturday as well.
Then to go on to say that the LE is one of the rarer 914's also implies it was there both days on the green.
Finally, to put a picture of the invitation adds to the impression.
Maybe it wasn't on purpose, but to dismiss it and blame the reader is
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 02:16 PM
From your first post:
The 2015 20th Anniversary of the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance, arguably the better of the two most prestigious car shows in the world, did a great service to a car that has long been overdue. It celebrated and honored the Porsche 914 as its featured marque for the 20th Anniversary of the Concours, displaying the 914 in unprecedented form. So much so, that it did not include any other classic Porsche models in the Porsche section. All the green was reserved just for the 914. Only a handful of other Porsche models were present at the Concours, a few in the Rally section and a few production cars in an assortment of other marques. But the Concours would have no other cars occupy the Porsche field to deter attention from the 914. In fact, it left a large open green in front of the display, commanding attention and demanding the respect it deserves. Only the rarest of the rare in the 914 family were on display at the Sunday Concours, save one impeccably restored 914/6. A 916 (11 made), a slew of historically significant 914/6 GT race cars, and the infamous one and only 350 bhp prototype 914/8 that belonged to Herr Pierch himself.
On the Saturday Cars and Coffee at The Concours event, a handful of 914s graced the Concours green as well, one of which being the rarest of the 914 productions cars sold to the public - the LE Can Am. A 'Creamsicle' no less, the rarer by almost half of the remaining two American Limited Edition Can Am production cars (Creamsicle and Bumblebee).
Not to heep on, but when I read this it certainly sounded to me like you were saying your 914 was there on Sunday (still does).
"as well" implies the rarest 914's were there Saturday and Sunday i.e. the handful of rare 914's on display Sunday were there on Saturday as well.
Then to go on to say that the LE is one of the rarer 914's also implies it was there both days on the green.
Finally, to put a picture of the invitation adds to the impression.
Maybe it wasn't on purpose, but to dismiss it and blame the reader is
*Sigh* Really?
This is a joke, right? Or are you being serious now? 
For those of you who continue to debate this, here's an English lesson: "...as well" does not imply it was there on Sunday when it is in fact SPECIFICALLY stated and followed by "On the Saturday 'Cars and Coffee at The Concours' event...". It does not even say Sunday, but perfectly stated in English that it was there on Saturday... SAT-UR-DAY.
(Go ahead, say it out loud if you have to: SAT-UR-DAY. It has three syllables. SUN-DAY has two. See how that works?). 
If anybody is interpreting that as anything else, then they have a problem with reading comprehension and basic grammar. If I have to keep repeating it to you in English, it's still going to be in English. Which is a class that may benefit those who continue to debate and argue against clearly stated grammar. And why do they choose to argue this anyway? 71Porsh, redundancy INDEED. So yet again, the thread is about the pictures for those who like the LE. Pictures that should be a gift considering those constantly debating this cannot apparently read (pictures > words). So please, I beg of you who continue with the uncalled for and demeaning comments hijacking this thread, for your own sakes, if you can't be decent people then just think of yourselves. Save some face. Stop "heaping on", debating and hijacking this thread. Just enjoy the cars. Or at least be kind enough to let the rest of us enjoy them.
Posted by: scotty b Mar 17 2015, 02:22 PM
Have you hit China yet ?
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 02:24 PM
I have! And even in Chinese they read "Saturday". 
Posted by: dlkawashima Mar 17 2015, 03:01 PM
WOW. 914 lovers, this was unprecedented.
First off, I was extremely honored to have my Limited Edition 914 LE Can Am on display (the only one) at the greatest classic car show in the world, which honored, featured and displayed ONLY the 914 in the entire Porsche marquee lineup! NO classic Porsches OF ANY KIND were on display at Porsche except for ONLY a long row of historically significant 914s - and a lot of green in front of them to view them from. In fact, all of Porsche's green was reserved for just the 914. This unprecedented and VERY bold statement in world of Porsche commands and demands the long overdue respect that the 914 deserves.
For the 914, our time has come.
To our big brother the 911, we respectfully extend to you... our middle
I got about 400 really good pictures of 12 914s. Instead of rushing to post, I'd rather take a bit of time to go through and edit them for you guys to make them more memorable. In the meantime, here's the one that makes me the most proud.
Tommy, I don't mean to pile on, but I'm just posting to try to help you understand how the confusion (at least my confusion) on the whole matter started.
Specifically, it was your post above from one of the other threads that got me totally confused. Do you see how it reads? Read it from the point of view of a casual observer, and (hopefully) you can see that it sure sounds like your LE was one of the twelve 914s on display on Sunday. And then when I saw the title of this thread I was still certain that your car was one of the twelve. I was still under the impression that your car was at both events until Scotty cleared up the matter.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 03:24 PM
Yes I do. Thanks. I believe that was in another thread though and written and posted when I was at the Concours and obviously very excited at the time. And maybe could have said that differently instead of thinking out loud from excitement, which I have since. But that's not at all what I've said repeatedly on this dedicated thread and I've made it overly clear here. I was very meticulous drafting the intro to this thread as an opening piece to the Concours and what was there and when. As the berating has continued after many requests to stop in trying to move on to the cars, some seem are only interested in continuing the harassing. So I've decided to stop posting the pictures of the cars altogether. I haven't even gotten to the GTs and the rest of the cars or the rest of the show for that matter. I took just under 1,000 detailed photos. But even some here have complained about too many pictures. They haven't even considered that some have told me they would like to use the multiple pictures and angles for originality and restoration purposes, which was just another reason for posting more. I also already explained the other reasons there are so many pictures. I'm done repeating. Everybody go back and read before you throw your .02 in. It's already been answered. People are going to hate no matter what. And continue to ridicule without even reading the answers to the questions they keep asking, being childish and immature, though they think they're so clever. It's not worth my time to share anymore. Some continue to choose to ruin it for everybody. So I'm just kind of done now.
Posted by: Tom_T Mar 17 2015, 03:31 PM
Hey Tommy,
Congratz on showing your 'Cicle at Amelia
- & I don't care if it was the main event or one of the other fetes around town then - it gives our 914s the recognition they were due in 1969 & the `70's - to have the 914 featured there .... finally!
You & ALL of the others displaying there helped raise the profile of our "entry level Porsche" as Excellence termed the 912/914 market update in their latest issue.
As for the other "Parade Rainers" on here - so what if he got carried away with red pants, a bunch of pix of his car, some auto-prose (no different than the car mags' writers being too clever for their own good anymore) - he's proud of his Cremecicle & being there, & rightly so! So what!!??
You guys will flock to scads of pix of everyone else's projects with rust, jackstand & project pix ad naseum, endless threads of stuffing Subies & V8s, etc. into 914s, & who knows what else, but you crucify Tommy for posting a bunch of pix of his very nice 914 here!!??
Heck - usually everyone is asking for more pix! 
Get over yourselves & let members express their pride in their wheels without all of the "Troll" BS. It just makes you & the site itself look bad & unwelcoming!
PS - for the Evelyn Woodhead Sped Redders (Cheech & Chong bit) out there who read stuff too fast (& I do myself sometimes), Tommy was pretty clear which 914s were at the Sunday Concours itself, as quoted below:
"Only the rarest of the rare in the 914 family were on display at the Sunday Concours, save one impeccably restored 914/6. A 916 (11 made), a slew of historically significant 914/6 GT race cars, and the infamous one and only 350 bhp prototype 914/8 that belonged to Herr Pie[r]ch himself."
PSS - Tommy, I hope you will get around to adding pix of the other 914s/916s/GTs/etc. which were there over the entire weekend, for those of us who could not go to it.
That's my 2 bits!
Tom
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Posted by: stevegm Mar 17 2015, 03:42 PM
Those have to have been the cutest kids at the C&C Saturday. But then again, I'm partial. :-) Great pictures. Very nice car. And for people restoring cars and looking for ideas, very helpful. Like I mentioned Saturday, I'm always surprised how Orange the Orange is on the creamsickle. I think it is Phoenix red. But it always looks so orange in person.
Posted by: stevegm Mar 17 2015, 03:44 PM
Sorry. Double post.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 03:44 PM
Hey Tommy,
Congratz on showing your 'Cicle at Amelia
- & I don't care if it was the main event or one of the other fetes around town then - it gives our 914s the recognition they were due in 1969 & the `70's - to have the 914 featured there .... finally!
You & ALL of the others displaying there helped raise the profile of our "entry level Porsche" as Excellence termed the 912/914 market update in their latest issue.
As for the other "Parade Rainers" on here - so what if he got carried away with red pants, a bunch of pix of his car, some auto-prose (no different than the car mags' writers being too clever for their own good anymore) - he's proud of his Cremecicle & being there, & rightly so! So what!!??
You guys will flock to scads of pix of everyone else's projects with rust, jackstand & project pix ad naseum, endless threads of stuffing Subies & V8s, etc. into 914s, & who knows what else, but you crucify Tommy for posting a bunch of pix of his very nice 914 here!!??
Heck - usually everyone is asking for more pix!
Get over yourselves & let members express their pride in their wheels without all of the "Troll" BS. It just makes you & the site itself look bad & unwelcoming!
PS - for the Evelyn Woodhead Sped Redders (Cheech & Chong bit) out there who read stuff too fast (& I do myself sometimes), Tommy was pretty clear which 914s were at the Sunday Concours itself, as quoted below:
"Only the rarest of the rare in the 914 family were on display at the Sunday Concours, save one impeccably restored 914/6. A 916 (11 made), a slew of historically significant 914/6 GT race cars, and the infamous one and only 350 bhp prototype 914/8 that belonged to Herr Pierch himself."
PSS - Tommy, I hope you will get around to adding pix of the other 914s/916s/GTs/etc. which were there over the entire weekend, for those of us who could not go to it.
That's my 2 bits!
Tom
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Tom, if you were here I'd buy you a beer.
Thanks for that. Posted by: stevegm Mar 17 2015, 03:44 PM
Double post. Sorry.
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 17 2015, 03:46 PM
These have to have been the cutest kids at the C&C Saturday. But then again, I'm partial. :-) Great pictures. Very nice car. And for people restoring cars and looking for ideas, very helpful. Like I mentioned Saturday, I'm always surprised how Orange the Orange is on the creamsickle. I think it is Phoenix red. But it always looks so orange in person.
Thanks, Steve. Your kids were adorable and it was great to see you.
And I'll be happy to get all those photos to you as requested. It will take me a little while, so maybe a few days.
Posted by: Big Len Mar 17 2015, 04:09 PM
Edited....actually, I agree. Time to move on.
Posted by: Larmo63 Mar 17 2015, 04:12 PM
I agree with Tom, let this die. Get over it.
Sheesh, you naysayers sound like a bunch of high school cheerleaders.
Posted by: stevegm Mar 17 2015, 04:23 PM
I agree with Tom, let this die. Get over it.
I concur. Tommy meant well. Let's talk about the cars.
Posted by: OU8AVW Mar 17 2015, 05:34 PM
I want to see some pictures of your Scirocco! One of the funnest cars I've owned....
Posted by: OU8AVW Mar 17 2015, 05:36 PM
I agree with Tom, let this die. Get over it.
I concur. Tommy meant well. Let's talk about the cars.
Or we can pick on Scotty B
Posted by: porbmw Mar 17 2015, 05:46 PM
I agree with Tom, let this die. Get over it.
I concur. Tommy meant well. Let's talk about the cars.
Tripple on that.
Many of us have moments when we are (over)enthused. Better than underwhelmed. I appreciate all the pics, and it's easy to scroll past the pics and dialogue that is less interesting or less accurate.
Better too many pics, than too few.
Posted by: Mike Bellis Mar 17 2015, 06:31 PM
IBTL
My "Bad thing" comment is in reference to the value of our cars going up; driven by speculation.
It's a double edge sword. Most of us are CSOB's and we love 914's. As prices rise, they will be less affordable to US, the enthusiast. It's already happening with the 914-6. There are 2 on Craig's list (SF Bay) that are near the 6 figure mark.
If some of you are holding out, hoping to cash in on your nest egg, I'm sorry. I don't want the cost of a 914 to go into 911 or 356 territory. If this happens, we the enthusiast will have to buy 944's and most of those are POS!
Posted by: scott_in_nh Mar 17 2015, 06:37 PM
I want to see some pictures of your Scirocco! One of the funnest cars I've owned....
I loved mine too - one or two pictures would be great!
Posted by: ripper911 Mar 17 2015, 07:09 PM
I only had mine for a few months, sold it for $600.
It was fun, but had a radiator, which is a deal breaker.
Posted by: krazykonrad Mar 17 2015, 08:18 PM
Thanks for posting. You have a very nice LE. If I could get mine back running, much less invited to a car show, I'd be really excited, too.
Konrad
Posted by: balljoint Mar 17 2015, 09:31 PM
i wish I had an LE. Of course, I am barely tolerated as it is.
Posted by: John Jentz Mar 18 2015, 09:09 AM
Wow,1 page of pictures and 5 pages of abuse. Is enthusiasm the new criteria for George Hussey/Auto Atlanta style abuse pile on?
Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 18 2015, 09:15 AM
Wow,1 page of pictures and 5 pages of abuse. Is enthusiasm the new criteria for George Hussey/Auto Atlanta style abuse pile on?
You're exaggerating, a lot of the abuse was self inflicted.
Posted by: John Jentz Mar 18 2015, 09:45 AM
Wow,1 page of pictures and 5 pages of abuse. Is enthusiasm the new criteria for George Hussey/Auto Atlanta style abuse pile on?
You're exaggerating, a lot of the abuse was self inflicted.
What makes any of you think any abuse is OK? If you didn't like what he posted, read something else! I met him on Saturday and the guy I met was on Cloud 9. All he was expressing was the joy of participating in a world class event even if it was only a supporting event.
H*ll, the guy organized 3 parties, a breakfast and a parade. Cut him some slack.
Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 18 2015, 09:53 AM
Wow,1 page of pictures and 5 pages of abuse. Is enthusiasm the new criteria for George Hussey/Auto Atlanta style abuse pile on?
You're exaggerating, a lot of the abuse was self inflicted.
What makes any of you think any abuse is OK? If you didn't like what he posted, read something else! I met him on Saturday and the guy I met was on Cloud 9. All he was expressing was the joy of participating in a world class event even if it was only a supporting event.
H*ll, the guy organized 3 parties, a breakfast and a parade. Cut him some slack.
Humility is not proclaimed.....it is displayed.
Posted by: dlestep Mar 18 2015, 10:28 AM
It's a good thing that the 914 was on the green !!!
In a way, we were all there with "Tommy the Cat."
~
Reading through this thread was like treading water in a septic tank.
All I know, is that I STILL enjoy the 914, in all of its' forms.
Especially, the one that's on jack-stands, in multiple stages of completion,
in my garage.
I sit in it with coffee and a cigarette, now and again, imagining the changes
and responses to all of its' upgrades.
As soon as I am finished with the Ghia, I will start again, refreshed.
~
So Celebrate Fuckers !
Posted by: Tom_T Mar 18 2015, 10:44 AM
Tom, if you were here I'd buy you a beer.
Thanks for that.No need, but Thanx! .... more like coffee anyway!
I get the abuse too by the self-proclaimed post police & other trolls on here, cuz I use too many words & get enthused about the "914S" history, so I know how you feel.
You & Steve Gaglione over in Tampax Bay should get together, since he also has an all original 'Cicle in the same pristine all original condition as his Bahia 73 2.0 featured in the O&H Forum's "The few, the rare..." nailed thread. He was probably at Amelia too, but I'm not sure.
Cheers!
Tom
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Posted by: Old Yella Mar 18 2015, 11:54 AM
Did those concourse guys put your balls in a ham slicer for these indiscretions.
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Posted by: MDG Mar 18 2015, 12:30 PM
You & Steve Gaglione over in Tampax Bay should get together, since he also has an all original 'Cicle in the same pristine all original condition as his Bahia 73 2.0 featured in the O&H Forum's "The few, the rare..." nailed thread. He was probably at Amelia too, but I'm not sure.
His '73 is Sahara Beige, no? Not Bahia Red?
Posted by: Tom_T Mar 18 2015, 01:08 PM
You & Steve Gaglione over in Tampax Bay should get together, since he also has an all original 'Cicle in the same pristine all original condition as his Bahia 73 2.0 featured in the O&H Forum's "The few, the rare..." nailed thread. He was probably at Amelia too, but I'm not sure.
His '73 is Sahara Beige, no? Not Bahia Red?
Yes, sorry .... brain fart (confusing with Dave Cheeks or Tod914's).
Apologies... It's been & is a hairy 4-5 weeks with my aunt in hospital back east, & me as decision maker on call from 3-4 am - 5-7 pm my time, then running my biz stuff 5-7 pm to 1-3 or 4 am ... repeat.... so my brain is jelly.
These few lunch or dinner breaks on here are my only "sanity time" for anything else!
Posted by: Tom_T Mar 18 2015, 01:15 PM
Did those concourse guys put your balls in a ham slicer for these indiscretions.
Probably not, since he was display & not judged. He'd have a few other prep items on the to do list for a PCA concours too, but what the heck!
Hey - this guy in the blue shirt looks like the This Old House guy.... .... another Tommy too!
Having a 1921 Craftsman Bungalow house also competing for my limited resto time & $'s ... so I watch TOH a lot too!
Cheers!
Tom
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Posted by: MDG Mar 18 2015, 01:44 PM
Yes, sorry .... brain fart (confusing with Dave Cheeks or Tod914's).
Apologies... It's been & is a hairy 4-5 weeks with my aunt in hospital back east, & me as decision maker on call from 3-4 am - 5-7 pm my time, then running my biz stuff 5-7 pm to 1-3 or 4 am ... repeat.... so my brain is jelly.
These few lunch or dinner breaks on here are my only "sanity time" for anything else!
Sorry to hear about your aunt. Best wishes.
Posted by: sda4property@gmail.com Mar 18 2015, 03:52 PM
Congrats on the showing. Proud to see an LE on the lawn.
I must say for an enthusiast web site...There is a ton of hate mail.
Disregard the negative posts bro.
I am proud to see what an amazing car you have.
If others are put off by all the pictures.
Than they should move along to another thread on the blog.
The fact you have over 3,200 hits proves...Your LE is a show stopper.
West coast & Cali representing Love for your LE.
Respect
SDA
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 18 2015, 04:12 PM
I want to see some pictures of your Scirocco! One of the funnest cars I've owned....
I loved mine too - one or two pictures would be great!
Non-LE related, but since you guys asked...
It's not a Porsche, it's a Volkswagen! No, really.
More pics here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=251407&view=findpost&p=2162102
Posted by: OU8AVW Mar 18 2015, 05:18 PM
I want to see some pictures of your Scirocco! One of the funnest cars I've owned....
I loved mine too - one or two pictures would be great!
Non-LE related, but by request.
It's not a Porsche, it's a Volkswagen! No, really.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=251407&view=findpost&p=2162102
I Want!
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 18 2015, 05:45 PM
I want to see some pictures of your Scirocco! One of the funnest cars I've owned....
I loved mine too - one or two pictures would be great!
Non-LE related, but by request.
It's not a Porsche, it's a Volkswagen! No, really.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=251407&view=findpost&p=2162102
I Want!
Well, that's possible. I'm probably (and regretfully) going to be putting it up for sale.
Posted by: Dion Mar 18 2015, 09:32 PM
Re: the flared orange car with the #1 on the side.... what's with the thin wheels? Were these used to roll onto the grass?
.... the car would not have run that way, right??
Those tyres were for gravel & snow. "Normal" flared diameter
tyres would be mounted for tarmac. Since the Monte often had
snow covered stages, looks like they wanted to represent
it this way.
Cheers,Dion
Posted by: tumamilhem Mar 20 2015, 03:54 PM
Re: the flared orange car with the #1 on the side.... what's with the thin wheels? Were these used to roll onto the grass?
.... the car would not have run that way, right??
Those tyres were for gravel & snow. "Normal" flared diameter
tyres would be mounted for tarmac. Since the Monte often had
snow covered stages, looks like they wanted to represent
it this way.
Cheers,Dion
Correct. They ran gas burners and are as they were in the Monte Carlo Rally.
Posted by: tumamilhem Apr 9 2015, 07:50 AM
So I am pretty excited about this...
A few organizations approached me requesting permission to use my photographs from Amelia Island, where our cars were the featured marque, for publication. This is another reason I took and posted so many pictures of all the 914s featured (also see the Amelia Island thread for all the 914s showcased at the Concours), so there would be a good variety of shots and angles for people to enjoy who could not be there in person, especially since previously there were not a lot of photographs of the historic GTs, 916 and 914/8 that were on display together for the first time.
One of the organizations was the Porsche 914 Club of France. I have to say, after 914s being pretty much left out of modern Porsche magazines in circulation featuring models new, vintage or otherwise, it's pretty cool to see pictures of our cars in a magazine after so many decades. What's even cooler, now we have our very own dedicated 914 magazine (check out the 1st issue going to print this week: Fourteener Motoring Magazine).
A preview of what is going to print next week in Europe: pages 8 and 9 of Porsche Club 914 de France Magazine
Posted by: 76-914 Apr 9 2015, 08:01 AM
Posted by: 914Next Apr 9 2015, 08:10 AM
Really? Lets all be civil and not start this again.
As for me, I like knowing there is coverage like this out there on our cars.
Steve
Posted by: sb914 Apr 9 2015, 08:10 AM
Posted by: tumamilhem Apr 9 2015, 08:52 AM
Really? Lets all be civil and not start this again.
As for me, I like knowing there is coverage like this out there on our cars.
Steve
Me too, Steve! We have to go back decades to see our cars in a magazine. And since this event is on an international stage, coverage of our cars is being seen all over the world. What 914 owner wouldn't want to see our cars get this kind of recognition featured this way or in a magazine finally? For enthusiasts, this is what we've been waiting to see for a long time... those of us who actually enjoy seeing pictures of our cars and in magazines.
Posted by: Olympic 1.7 Apr 9 2015, 09:13 AM
Really? Lets all be civil and not start this again.
As for me, I like knowing there is coverage like this out there on our cars.
Steve
Maybe best just to leave this thread and all its abuse die.
just start another thread with any new info....
Posted by: tumamilhem Apr 9 2015, 09:39 AM
Really? Lets all be civil and not start this again.
As for me, I like knowing there is coverage like this out there on our cars.
Steve
Maybe best just to leave this thread and all its abuse die.
just start another thread with any new info....
Posted by: G e o r g e Apr 9 2015, 09:46 AM
did you take home grass clippings from the "island"?
they and this thread should be dead by now.....
please do as suggested , start a new thread. let this one "grace" page 2 and beyond
Posted by: 7TPorsh May 22 2015, 11:13 AM
Hey Tum..., there's a picture of your car in the new June issue of Hemmings. Article about Amelia Island. Don't have my camera handy. pg.65
Posted by: bandjoey May 22 2015, 03:08 PM
If you complainers had broadband and not DSL you wouldn't have to wait 20 minutes to load the pictures.
Thanks for the update. I like the pictures and instead of letting this go to page 2, why don't we have someone who could move these posts into the event thread? Just a thought.
Posted by: tumamilhem May 24 2015, 06:32 PM
Hey Tum..., there's a picture of your car in the new June issue of Hemmings. Article about Amelia Island. Don't have my camera handy. pg.65
Hey thanks for letting me know! My neighbor Mike (Bill Warner's personal assistant and has been working Amelia Island Concours since it began, writing up all the histories on the cars) told me about a month ago when he came over. He stopped by and asked me if mine was the only LE at Amelia and I told him it was. He then handed me his copy of Hemmings, pointed to that picture and said, "well, this is you and this is for you" and gave me his copy. I had just received the current copy of Porsche 914 Club of France's quarterly issue with my car in it and showed him.
(see post 131)Thank you for telling me!
Posted by: db9146 May 26 2015, 07:52 AM
Personally, since I couldn't make the Amelia Island event, I'd appreciate any and all pics from the event to be uploaded. Then I can peruse and save all that I like, looking for the details that catch my eye and just bypass any that don't strike my fancy.
Tommy, nice car. Congrats on any invite.
Posted by: brcacti Jan 21 2020, 04:18 PM
VERY INTERESTING
Posted by: jdamiano Jan 21 2020, 04:54 PM
Dragging this back out after five years?? Why?? Let me tell all you haters a story. Tommy is a great guy and a personal friend. He probably won’t see this crap because he never comes to this forum because of the negativity he received and is getting again here on another post. This guy is a 914 enthusiast and loves his car. He has an awesome 911 and a mint 968 but usually can be seen in his 914. The first time I took my car to a the local C&C he practically ran up to me to and just made me feel great about my recent purchase. He went out of his way to make sure I went to the local PCA events and introduced me around. I just don’t get some people here on 914World. Not most but some. I even heard someone at Octeenerfest come up to Tommy and personally mentioned this post and how it was BS. I’m also going to post to the other tread throwing shade his way.
Posted by: billh1963 Jan 21 2020, 05:24 PM
Dragging this back out after five years?? Why?? Let me tell all you haters a story. Tommy is a great guy and a personal friend. He probably won’t see this crap because he never comes to this forum because of the negativity he received and is getting again here on another post. This guy is a 914 enthusiast and loves his car. He has an awesome 911 and a mint 968 but usually can be seen in his 914. The first time I took my car to a the local C&C he practically ran up to me to and just made me feel great about my recent purchase. He went out of his way to make sure I went to the local PCA events and introduced me around. I just don’t get some people here on 914World. Not most but some. I even heard someone at Octeenerfest come up to Tommy and personally mentioned this post and how it was BS. I’m also going to post to the other tread throwing shade his way.
I'm glad you are his buddy. But, you weren't even on the forum when all this went down.
Those of us who have been around a while remember it.
JRust listed the car on this forum (you can easily find the original ad) and mentioned the work done and the salvage title
Your buddy bought the car and was enjoying it. He even started a few threads asking for advice on solving a couple engine problems he was having. These were good threads. Unfortunately, Tommy did not want to listen to a few of the true experts on 914's on the forum because he had a "master mechanic" who was working on the car.
Then, things turned strange. All those threads about the engine issues were deleted. No moderator confessed to deleting them. But, many of us remember the event. Then, your buddy started a "pump and dump" campaign where he was talking about trying to trade his car for a 3.2 911. Unfortunately, he was conveniently leaving out the part about the salvage title, obvious work that had been done, etc. to potential "victims". When called out on it, he dropped out of sight.
Now, looks like it's the same old story. In the Werkes description he says, ". An authentic stock survivor, this LE has never been restored, only maintained to continue to be driven with its 1974 Duval tag." So, not only is he claiming originality, is he also claiming the car has always been a Jacksonville car?
Be careful how far you go in your defense lest you end up with egg on your face
Posted by: SirAndy Jan 21 2020, 05:48 PM
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21981
Then how do you explain this?
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=342917
Your friend is representing this car as:
"An authentic stock survivor, this LE has never been restored, only maintained to continue to be driven with its 1974 Duval tag"
Never been restored? Authentic stock survivor? Only maintained?
Posted by: SirAndy Jan 21 2020, 05:55 PM
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=88978
It didn't even look anything like an LE some 10 years ago and had rust and accident damage. It was repaired, restored and repainted.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 21 2020, 06:58 PM
Damm that internet and the way it never forgets.
Posted by: sholman5 Jan 21 2020, 07:34 PM
Authentic? Yes it is an LE.
Stock? Yes Motor is stock, maybe not original
Survivor? It's still running and driving.
Your interpretation might be different. In the end it's a nice car and is well maintained. Let a sleeping dog lye. We all got out of high school many years ago.
Posted by: KELTY360 Jan 21 2020, 08:34 PM
Alternative facts.
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 21 2020, 08:39 PM
Kinda funny how this one turned out.
Posted by: brant Jan 21 2020, 09:32 PM
Salvage title car!!!!
Poor tommy
Posted by: DickSteinkamp Jan 21 2020, 10:18 PM
Pretty easy to tell that it's the middle of winter. 
Posted by: Big Len Jan 21 2020, 10:44 PM
I can't believe it's been five years.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 22 2020, 11:33 AM
I didn't know any of the car history.
What I remember was the embellishment and exaggeration of the appearance
at Amelia.
Five years ? incredible.
Posted by: 914_teener Jan 23 2020, 08:13 PM
Doubbbble post.
Posted by: 914_teener Jan 23 2020, 08:13 PM
My newest moniker is my 987 CS.
I proudly declare it is a salvage title.
I can prove it by the title.
It never affects my smile when I drive it.
One thing I.ve discovered about P car ownership.......it is a very small world.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 23 2020, 08:24 PM
His words...
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Posted by: SirAndy Jan 23 2020, 11:31 PM
His words...
Oh snap ...
Posted by: brant Jan 24 2020, 08:21 AM
My newest moniker is my 987 CS.
I proudly declare it is a salvage title.
I can prove it by the title.
It never affects my smile when I drive it.
One thing I.ve discovered about P car ownership.......it is a very small world.
I hold nothing negative against salvage titles or each persons individual car
I just know that the previous owner was up front and honest about this car
The current owner washed the title and lies non stop
I just don’t like braggarts and liars
Posted by: billh1963 Jan 24 2020, 09:38 AM
Going back to my other thread, the part about how many bumblebees and creamsicles remain is speculation. I think he took those number from Jeff’s site.
The registry is only how many cars Jeff has encountered or people have registered. It is no way indicative of how many survive.
Posted by: BENBRO02 Jan 24 2020, 12:01 PM
Tommy, I like your car. Scratch that....I love your car....especially LE Creamsicles.
For some reason, you took exception to my comment about your sunvisors. I guess smileys and emoticons don't come across well to you. Look at your response to my goofus comment about your sunvisors. If you could read between the lines, what I was saying was "You have a nice LE there. I wish my Alaska Blue looked as nice as your does. I'm jealous."
But alas, we digress to here.
I had to go back and read your original post again to notice it was in jest. It's tough reading threads on my cellphone because I missed the emojis. They're so small and my eyes are so old.
Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jan 24 2020, 01:12 PM
The registry is only how many cars Jeff has encountered or people have registered. It is no way indicative of how many survive.
Posted by: 914_teener Jan 24 2020, 10:18 PM
My newest moniker is my 987 CS.
I proudly declare it is a salvage title.
I can prove it by the title.
It never affects my smile when I drive it.
One thing I.ve discovered about P car ownership.......it is a very small world.
I hold nothing negative against salvage titles or each persons individual car
I just know that the previous owner was up front and honest about this car
The current owner washed the title and lies non stop
I just don’t like braggarts and liars
I get it Brant.
I.ll be not so subtle. It.s not about a salvage title.
You don.t make shade or cover for a known set of lies.
I.m sure Tumi is a likeable guy.
So was Ted Bundy.
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 26 2020, 02:06 PM
Wa, WA, WHAT?
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