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Posted by: xsurfer Mar 27 2015, 08:43 AM
Is 30 weight oil still the best to run in the stock engine? If not?
Thanks
Posted by: SLITS Mar 27 2015, 08:57 AM
20 - 50 oils with lots of ZDDP.
Kendall GT with Liquid Titanium
Royal Purple
Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil
Brad Penn
Jake Raby's Snake Oil
and a few more I don't remember. Straight 30w would be fine if it has the ZDDP @ 1200 ppm or better, but with high temps I would prefer the multi-grade.
Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 27 2015, 09:11 AM
Chevron Delo 400 15-40, good dino oil, lots of ZDDP, a lot like what Shell Rottella T used to be.
Made for diesel, cheap, I've been using it with no issues.
It's in my T4 nickies engine, using it in several friends Type 1, /4 and /6 engines. I also use it in my Fiat tractor.
I'll be using it in my fresh 3.0 engine.
Recommended by Supertec.
Posted by: fixer34 Mar 27 2015, 10:04 AM
Stock /6, I used to use Castrol GTX 20-50. Been using Shell Rotella T 15W-40 'Triple Protection' lately on advice from another board.
Is it not as good as it was (ZDDP?).
Posted by: stugray Mar 27 2015, 10:19 AM
Here is a recent article about ZDDP.
It even talks about the changes in recipes like Jake mentions:
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=42719
You would need to make a login acct to view, but there is some good stuff on that site.
Here is the chart of the results of how much zinc is in each:
So I think I will go with the VR1 if on a budget and the Joe Gibbs if I win the lottery.
Posted by: gfg3 Mar 27 2015, 10:45 AM
Valvoline VR1 20W50....recommended by several engine builders for both /4 and /6 engines.
George
Posted by: pete000 Mar 27 2015, 11:39 AM
Whats the best source for the Valvoline VR1?
Posted by: gfg3 Mar 27 2015, 11:48 AM
QUOTE(pete000 @ Mar 27 2015, 01:39 PM)
Whats the best source for the Valvoline VR1?
I get my 20w50 VR1 at the local Advance Auto Parts store. About $6 per qt.
George
Posted by: stugray Mar 27 2015, 11:57 AM
QUOTE(gfg3 @ Mar 27 2015, 11:48 AM)
QUOTE(pete000 @ Mar 27 2015, 01:39 PM)
Whats the best source for the Valvoline VR1?
I get my 20w50 VR1 at the local Advance Auto Parts store. About $6 per qt.
George
And if my memory serves me right, it is just about the time of year that it goes on sale. So keep an eye out.
It's $5.99 a qt at advance auto, and if you order before tomorrow you can get an additional 15% off if you order online by using the online coupon (upper right corner) of webpage
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/valvoline-vr1-20w-50-racing-conventional-motor-oil-1-quart-vv211/8020086-P?zoneAssigned=1&prefZC=80501
Posted by: screenguy914 Mar 27 2015, 12:42 PM
QUOTE(pete000 @ Mar 27 2015, 10:39 AM)
Whats the best source for the Valvoline VR1?
It seems NAPA in So. Cal carries this oil @ $6.39/qt.
Posted by: mskala Mar 27 2015, 01:43 PM
Has something changed with the Rotella T?
Posted by: somd914 Mar 27 2015, 03:05 PM
QUOTE(gfg3 @ Mar 27 2015, 01:48 PM)
QUOTE(pete000 @ Mar 27 2015, 01:39 PM)
Whats the best source for the Valvoline VR1?
I get my 20w50 VR1 at the local Advance Auto Parts store. About $6 per qt.
George
Just changed my last weekend.
Also an interesting read here, how accurate it is who knows, but the manufacturers jump in and make claims w/o test data...
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=35836
Posted by: patssle Mar 27 2015, 05:19 PM
QUOTE(fixer34 @ Mar 27 2015, 08:04 AM)
Stock /6, I used to use Castrol GTX 20-50. Been using Shell Rotella T 15W-40 'Triple Protection' lately on advice from another board.
Is it not as good as it was (ZDDP?).
Castrol GTX is junk. I used it as my first oil post-6 conversion since it was cheap in case I needed to pull the engine back out. But did a bunch of research for my first oil change and will never touch that stuff again. Running VR-1 here as well - the ZDDP numbers are pretty solid for 20w50...Advanced has it for $6/quart which is about the same price as Mobil1 at Wal-Mart!
Posted by: PancakePorsche Mar 27 2015, 11:49 PM
+1 for VR-1 20/50
On the shelf at O'Reilly
135K mi on my engine still strong with next to no oil consumption. Good stuff.
Posted by: skier2.0 Mar 28 2015, 06:38 PM
Its a 6 SOHC not a pushrod flat tappet engine. ZDDP is important on the fours not so much on the sixes. I run Mobil1 15-50.
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