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Posted by: siverson Mar 28 2015, 09:41 PM

We bought a new house many months ago, and the house needed a ton of work. The "house" part of our remodel is almost over, and now I'm making plans for the garage. I actually can't believe I haven't but more thought into this yet as one of the primary reasons we (or I ) liked the house is it has a big 2-car garage AND a big 3-car garage. And a big yard. Yay me.

Without benches or storage, I think 10 914s would actually fit in the 2 garages (tandem).

So... What do you think of my layout plan? Any other ideas below. The most space I've had to work with before this was a 22x20 2-car garage.

1. LIFT - We have to do some concrete work in the garage now anyways, so I think I may put some type of scissor lift in the floor. The ceiling is flat and only about 8.5' or 9.0'.

- Any lift recommendations?

- What needs to be plumbed into the lift? Just power or ? (I'm just starting my research now)

- Do you think the center position is the best for the lift?

2. BENCHES. What do you think? Benches as I drew along the top, or benches in the bottom stall? That closet has to stay there.

Any ideas or inspiration? Thanks!

-Steve





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Posted by: stevegm Mar 28 2015, 09:56 PM

All flared cars? No narrow body 914s? :-) Looks like a great plan. I am jealous. :-)

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 28 2015, 11:58 PM

Install a motion sensor light aimed at the entry way(s). That way if you're going in for just a quick errand you don't have to worry about turning the light on and off and if you leave with your hands full you don't have to futz with the switch.

Plan your lighting so it's around the perimeter of each bay instead of centered. You can't have too much lighting.

Enjoy the space, but remember a basic law of physics......nature abhors a vacuum.

Posted by: mepstein Mar 29 2015, 01:05 AM

I love my snap on mid rise lift
Bought it used for $500
It fits under my car without driving up on any ramps
It's built like a tank

Led lights

Posted by: Big Len Mar 29 2015, 03:54 AM

Just a thought, but the lift might be better served on the wall with the window. That way, the lift would be easier to connect to power without having wires running across to the center. Plus, if your planning an a/compressor, again hoses wouldn't be all over the place and can be routed along that wall. If you ever needed to paint, the outside wall would be near for a fan and you could drape off that area easier. Plus the extra light helps.

I think I might shorten the bench on the "B" end somewhat to store rolling table there.

What a great setup. Best of luck with it.

Posted by: somd914 Mar 29 2015, 07:28 AM

Looking great. Our garage is 24' x 36' with a an 8' x 12' bump out for the workshop area.

A few thoughts/questions/suggestions:

- Are you running 220 outlets?
- Are you plumbing a sink?
- 28 ft width is interior or exterior width? Looks like exterior. Fitting three across will work but be a bit tight for a lift on the side, therefore I would go center.
- Shelving, any thoughts for shelves or cabinets?
- Lifts - my neighbor has this one:
http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-TD6MR-Portable-Scissor-Lift
- This one will be going in my garage this spring (friend is an independent mechanic running this one up and down several times a day times 3 years now w/o issues):
http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-BP8000
- Lighting? I have 13 twin-bulb 48" fluorescent shop lights on three switch banks so they are zoned. Plenty of light from above, but I'm going to run a few down low along the walls and down the corners - Concur there is never too much light in my opinion.
- Bench area - definitely in my opinion as working with parts on the floor gets old.
- Agree with motion sensor lights outside - love ours, plus from a security standpoint motion sensors make more sense than leaving lights on all the time - light is on, someone is coming or going and grabs attention.
- Storage area - what are the dimensions? Looks narrow.

Good luck, keep us posted - off to a great start.

Posted by: thieuster Mar 29 2015, 08:49 AM

Do not put the lift in the middle. At one point, you'll want to grind something. With the lift in the middle, you're always too close to the car!

A 2 post car lift is the best solution: e.g. when you want to drop an engine, it's really a one man's job! Again, don't put in the middle.

Position a sink close to the door; that way, you can be 'clean' without crossing the workshop towards the door.

Consider the best layout for your bench & tools: are you left or right handed? Do you have space to position a vice? Do you need a blasting cabinet or a lathe?

Tools: personally, I prefer a trolley with the most common tools next to the car. Other, larger or specialised tools need a prominent place on the wall.

When you restore a car, you need 4x its space: one for the car, two for all the items and one for yourself to work. You can store the parts off course, then you need less room.

In my garage, I've wired the electrics through one main switch: all power, including the lights on the ceiling + radio are centrally controlled. One single flick of the switch and I'm certain that all is safe.

I've mounted curtain rails + runners on the ceiling of the garage. I mounted an extension cord on the runners, that way I can reacht through the complete garage for power.


Invest in proper LED lighting: it has several advantages.

Finally: most of my tools are electrically powered. In hindsight, I would have opted for air powered tools. Lighter, often stronger.

Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 29 2015, 08:54 AM

To clarify, the motion sensor light goes inside the shop.

If it's feasible, build a shed off the outside wall for the compressor so you can isolate the noise.

Posted by: Camaro Mike Mar 29 2015, 10:09 AM

The best place I know for garage inspiration is still http://www.garagejournal.com.

Posted by: somd914 Mar 29 2015, 12:06 PM

Also, are those posts between the row of cars? If so, ask your builder to run an i-beam and get rid of them if possible.

Too bad your ceiling is too low for a two post, but for a 914 or 911 you can still drop the engine from a scissors lift, and certainly makes suspension work easy.

With a lift on the side, just make sure you will truly have enough room to work between the car and wall. I prefer no less than 4 ft to make room to work with others, but that is me.

Motion light in the interior - not a bad idea, never thought of that.

Also, is that a large garage door on the side? If so, could be handy...

Besides garage doors, any regular doors to get in/out of the garage?

Off to a great start - when's the garage warming party?

Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 29 2015, 12:10 PM

No entry door other than the bay doors? The 16x7 notated in the wall on the left is what? Also, what is the compass direction that wall faces? Bear in mind any conflict with overhead door tracks. You might post some photos of the interior.

Greg smith equipment sells a 10' 2 post that might work for you with a couple of smallish holes in the ceiling for the extra post height to slip into.

Looking at the side elevation, the exterior wall of the room above the garage is supported by the posts. Clear spanning the space will involve major engineering and surgery

Posted by: somd914 Mar 29 2015, 01:28 PM

Oops, lost track that this is an existing house, so yes, if those are posts it's not an easy change at this point...

Posted by: Phoenix-MN Mar 29 2015, 01:47 PM

Max Jax two post lift, you can set it up/take it down quickly when you need the room. I put one in last year and kick myself for not getting one years ago

http://www.maxjaxusa.com/

Posted by: siverson Mar 29 2015, 08:01 PM

Hi - thanks for the input!

> You can't have too much lighting.

Yup - I'm my current 2-car (22x20) garage I have a total of 32 4 foot t-8 bulbs. It's like daylight and I love it and plan on duplicating that.


> Are you running 220 outlets?

Yup, they were already there. The previous owner was a truck guy.


> Are you plumbing a sink?

Unfortunately, no, and adding a drain is cost prohibitive at this point. It is the lowest part of the house and far from other drains or the sewer line.


> 28 ft width is interior or exterior width? Looks like exterior. Fitting three across will work but be a bit tight for a lift on the side, therefore I would go center.

Where to put the lift is the big question. It is 28 ft interior, and there is probably room to put the lift on the side,


> Just a thought, but the lift might be better served on the wall with the window

Yes, I think you may be right. I spent a bunch of time their this afternoon and I think I'll move it to the wall. There is still enough room, and the old 2-car garage door will still be there to provide lots of room to open things up.


> Storage area - what are the dimensions? Looks narrow.

Yeah it is narrow and not ideal, but would have been difficult to change.


> At one point, you'll want to grind something

You are forgetting this is 914world. You mean at some point I might stop grinding and welding...


> Also, are those posts between the row of cars? If so, ask your builder to run an i-beam and get rid of them if possible.

Yup, existing house, and I'm done with major structural work at this point.


I'll post some more pictures of how it looks today later tonight...

In the interim, here is my last idea based on more input and research.

-Steve



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Posted by: siverson Mar 29 2015, 08:02 PM

with 914s for scale

-Steve



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Posted by: Chris914n6 Mar 29 2015, 08:04 PM

I just built a 20'x28' Porsche space. Don't know what you have for shop equipment but this is how I'd do it. I find if there is no space to work around the cars then the cars don't get worked on.

Bench- 3 feet deep with 6-8" shelves for the little stuff; spray paint, bolt jars, clock, stereo, fluids.

Pegboard- I hang keys, hammers, tie downs, plastic bins +. I've seen tools hung too.

Shelves- I like 18" deep, or 24" as they fit Avon boxes really well. Find an Avon rep and acquire their shipping boxes, they are sturdy and at 12" x 16" x 9" can keep quite a few things organized, or out of sight.

If you leave the bottom open on the bench or shelves you can roll the jack or tires or slide stands under and out of the way, and the welder if it's on a cart.

Air- 30 gal compressor. Can't work on cars without one

In my workspace I have a 30"x54" or so folding table with a drip pan on it for doing messy work; trans, calipers, axles. Remove the pan and I have a nice elevated open space for other stuff.

Lights over the car don't work as well as having them in between.

Posted by: Garold Shaffer Mar 29 2015, 08:20 PM

I have a midrise lift and works great for dropping engines since I to do not have a enough height for a two post lift. I have a SCCA buddy that has the Maxjack system and that seems to work well also. I would add for you shelves on along the wall in 3 door garage shown next to the 914 (parked at a angle) I would use some heavy duty closet racking and hang it off the wall above the care so you can park straight. Use that area for storage of parts / stuff that you will not need access to that often. I did that in my garage and it helps keep stuff off the floor .

Posted by: siverson Mar 29 2015, 08:41 PM

some photos from today. we are adding the 3 single car garage doors. the prev owner used the garage for farm equipment or something, but even then it makes no sense where the original 16 x 7 door is. the 16x7 door driveway turn is too sharp for even a 914.

thise window holes will be the 3 single garage doors.


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Posted by: siverson Mar 29 2015, 08:42 PM

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Posted by: siverson Mar 29 2015, 08:53 PM

and our current 2 car garage. lots of home depot shelves.


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Posted by: siverson Mar 29 2015, 08:55 PM

Funny how cars look so much better in photos... I just took that photo, but Green 914 is super dirty and dusty right now.

-Steve

Posted by: eric9144 Mar 29 2015, 08:57 PM

My space is 32x33, I remeber thinking when we were going to move in what a huge space that seemed like...now I have one 914, 6 or so mini bikes and my '44 Willys jeep in it and it's tighter than I thought. Sure you can stack cars double deep but you'll find you want the open space to actually use it as a shop...yes nature does abhor a vacuum!

Congrats on the new place!

Posted by: Chris914n6 Mar 29 2015, 09:48 PM

That's one heck of a house project. It will be awesome when it's done.

My ability to pack a moving truck is legendary. My ability to pack a garage is too much for human eyes. Having a photographic memory and long term planning leads to a different kind of problem solving.

Posted by: 914_teener Mar 30 2015, 08:56 AM

I.ll store that six in my teener for you while your busy on your house.

Posted by: siverson Mar 30 2015, 11:36 AM

> I.ll store that six in my teener for you while your busy on your house.

I know, I can't wait to get it back in the car (orange 914).

-Steve

Posted by: siverson Mar 30 2015, 11:37 AM

> Sure you can stack cars double deep but you'll find you want the open space to actually use it as a shop

Yup, very true. It will be nice to have space to work. I'll probably limit it to 3 small cars and my dirt bike.

-Steve

Posted by: bigkensteele Mar 30 2015, 07:27 PM

Couple of ideas for you to ponder. I built this shelving for all the stuff that I don't need very often like paint/drywall tools, plumbing stuff, etc. I have to use a step ladder to get it down, but that is only once ever few weeks at best. However, it is all up and out of my way in space that would otherwise be unused. The bins are just the 12 gallon units sold at HD/Lowes. Label maker is my friend.

The shelving itself is 18" deep (I believe) from HD/Lowes. The back is fastened at each stud on 16". The front is suspended by 2 x 2s running underneath the front of the shelving and turnbuckles/threaded rod every 4 feet into the trusses. Three bins fit between each support.

You would not believe how much storage this actually is. I can fit 20 bins across my three car garage, but as you can see I have a few Fuchs up there as well.



The other nugget I have is this. I bought two of the 60" hardwood workbenches that HF sells for $139 (with coupon or on sale). I put casters on them and joined them together with window sash fasteners so they can come apart. Nice large work-space that can be moved anywhere I want it. It is also the perfect height for run-off from my table saw (bonus).

Posted by: r_towle Mar 30 2015, 07:59 PM

One word....dust.

Get cabinets with doors for everything.

Posted by: siverson May 9 2015, 01:11 AM

Some progress and the lift arrived today...

Posted by: siverson May 9 2015, 01:13 AM

where the 3 single car garage doors will go.




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Posted by: siverson May 9 2015, 01:14 AM

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Posted by: somd914 May 9 2015, 06:12 AM

Thanks for the update, I was thinking about your thread the other day as I start my garage renovation, and am now debating lift types (thought I had it settled, but so many choices...) and location.

Keep the updates coming.

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 9 2015, 10:49 PM

I am very excited for you in tackling your garage project. I am just finishing up the remodel of the home we bought about 18 months ago. All the inside except the laundry room, guest bath, master bedroom and master bath has already been completely redone, even all new Anderson top of the line windows and all new doors, floors, electrical, appliances cabinets, plumbing, tankless heater with recirc pump, insulation, etc. I hope to crank that project up in June and be done by end of August, maybe September.

Once the inside is finished I will begin the next big project, adding a 4th stall to the garage and then front and rear landscape and a complete new driveway, patio, walkways, etc. I will sink a scissor lift into the garage floor next to the new wall with a nice 4x6 window.

Really want to do the 4th stall. Wife not so much but grudgingly said OK - it's your money I considered that a win and just said cool.

We will see what happens- my time frame is to be able to begin a year from now .

Posted by: SixerJ May 19 2015, 05:25 PM

After doing my garage I would consider the following

Lighting, loads of it / split on two switched ccts. One for popping in / picking stuff up and the second to beef up lighting levels for serious work
Ceiling mounted power sockets to avoid trailing power leads for things like trickle chargers / tripping over leads
Wall mounted surface trunking around the work bench, plus extra sockets around the place for general stuff
Really good insulated and draft excluded sectional garage door
Decent two pack epoxy floor paint / paint walls / ceiling before electrical 1st fix
Consider looking for ex office metal lateral filing units. I picked up some three draw units FOC and they work great for shallow / tall storage for things like paint, power tools, larger spare parts. Pull the drawer out and it's right there
Plumbed in air lines?
L6-20 or 30 socket for say a big welder? Not really sure if this is applicable or even allowable by the AHJ in a domestic environment
Couple of RJ45 sockets for a phone & Ethernet for computer / SONOS etc.....

My garage is a bit of an awkward shape but lighting wise I have 8x 5ft and 6x 6ft battens which are salt and peppered on the two switched ccts. No more scrabbling in the dark for a dropped nut

Posted by: siverson May 27 2015, 08:41 PM

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Posted by: Cairo94507 May 27 2015, 09:00 PM

Very cool

Posted by: siverson May 27 2015, 09:13 PM

concrete should be poured this week.




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Posted by: siverson May 27 2015, 09:31 PM

Here are some photos of the area when we first bought the house. My kids still call it "The Junk House".

I still really have no idea why they put the 2 car garage door on that wall that is totally inaccessible.

-Steve



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Posted by: siverson May 31 2015, 12:17 PM

footings in.

and i made the driveway a little wider (move existing rock wall) to make it easier to pull into the 3rd bay. but its still a bit tight. but i also hate to lose that persimon tree... hmmm...




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Posted by: siverson May 31 2015, 12:18 PM

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Posted by: siverson Jun 2 2015, 04:33 PM

am i boring you guys with concrete photos?



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Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 2 2015, 04:41 PM

I'd like to see the vista from the deck top.

Posted by: siverson Jun 9 2015, 03:44 PM

i just decided to move a couple trees and got rid of the whole dirt penisula thing.


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Posted by: siverson Jun 9 2015, 03:45 PM

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Posted by: db9146 Jun 9 2015, 04:36 PM

The garage is looking great!!!

Couple of ideas on the electrical and air plumbing.

I have a 28 x 30 garage and ran two 20 amp circuits to each outlet (one circuit with gray outlets and another with white outlets) so that at any point in the garage, if I had high electrical demands, I'd have two circuits readily available.

I also plumbed in air lines inside each wall spaced the outlets so when using air tools, I can just use a shorter hose to the nearest outlet w/o snaking an air line all over the place (be sure to install an outlet near at least one garage door for outside use). I also recessed one of the retractable air reels into the ceiling between the two primary bays near the center of the garage for air access there.

Lastly, and I realize it might be a little late for you on this one, but when I built my detached garage, I used a 14" I-beam to span the width of the garage. I then used truss floor joists across the top of the i-beam for the 2nd story floor that I used for car part storage upstairs. The floor joists left about 4" of the I-beam exposed across the garage ceiling which works great for a chain hoist trolley that I can use when unloading anything too heavy for me to deal with by myself.

And I agree, you can never have too much light!!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jun 9 2015, 05:40 PM

Oh heck no! For me, I love watching cement work, construction, anything that involves building stuff. It amazes me to see experts make it look so easy. Looking very good

Posted by: bandjoey Jun 9 2015, 07:48 PM

don't forget the LAN wires for hot internet access... What a garage.

Posted by: Philip W. Jun 10 2015, 09:55 AM

is that earthquake resistant concrete?

Posted by: siverson Jun 24 2015, 11:11 PM

> don't forget the LAN wires for hot internet access

Yup, it's in there!

-Steve

Posted by: siverson Jun 24 2015, 11:15 PM

A visitor...

-Steve


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Posted by: siverson Jun 24 2015, 11:16 PM

Framing




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Posted by: siverson Jun 24 2015, 11:18 PM

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Posted by: siverson Jun 24 2015, 11:19 PM

Stucco




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Posted by: PlantMan Jun 24 2015, 11:35 PM

Who is responsible for the artwork left of the garage door???

Posted by: siverson Jun 25 2015, 12:49 AM

> Who is responsible for the artwork left of the garage door???

Ha. No idea. Not me.

Posted by: RobW Jun 25 2015, 06:52 AM

Nice work!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jun 25 2015, 06:55 AM

Very cool - looking nice.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 25 2015, 06:58 AM

smart move straightening out the stone retaining wall now rather than after the driveway is in. sooner or later the wall was going to tattoo one of your cars. the plan to put the lift in the bay forward of the tree seemed a bit awkward. did you relocate and save the tree?

Posted by: siverson Jun 27 2015, 12:52 AM

yup i have tried to save the persimmon tree but we will see. it doesnt look to good so far....

Posted by: rhodyguy Jun 27 2015, 08:38 AM

try Liquinox B-1 transplant solution as per the instructions. a light pruning of any dead branches. set up a soaker hose and place it around the root ball perimeter to the drip line and 2-3 inches of some sort of mulch over the the surface. DEEP water to keep the roots from trying to surface to find water. give the tree a fighting chance.

Posted by: siverson Jul 13 2015, 10:47 PM

Slow progress (more on the house), but drywall went up today.

-Steve




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Posted by: siverson Jul 13 2015, 10:48 PM

Concrete this week... ?!?! (was supposed to be last week)

-Steve



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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jul 14 2015, 12:23 AM

Make sure that the sealed deck above your garage is 110% water proofed.
Get a reputable deck contractor/waterproofer. Don't let your GC talk you into the carpenter or roofer doing your deck prep/coatings/ flashing/ counter-flashing.
Been there done that, not only are water leaks annoying on the cars below...the hidden water damage to the wood structure is hella dangerous
Great new crib , enjoy it !
Marty

Posted by: siverson Jul 22 2015, 07:47 PM

texture, stone, getting ready to pour driveway


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Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 22 2015, 09:17 PM

Making very nice progress.

I remember in my last house having a 21 yard concrete driveway poured, exposed aggregate with a brick border. I got 23 years out of that before we sold that house.

In my new (old) house I am going to go with stamped concrete for the driveway, patio, walkways, etc. That is probably still 2 years out as we finish up the inside and then remodel the garage after the inside. I can't wait for the garage! My Six will need a nice place to live.

Posted by: siverson Aug 4 2015, 03:02 PM

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Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 4 2015, 03:07 PM

That's a large amount of flat work! Looks like your house is in a beautiful area. Once the walls get covered things tend to speed up. Makes everybody happy.

Posted by: eric9144 Aug 4 2015, 04:46 PM

Damn that's looking great! You've got to be exited as heck to be nearing the completion of the construction!

Posted by: siverson Aug 4 2015, 06:53 PM

> You've got to be exited as heck to be nearing the completion of the construction

Yup. We bought the house more than a year ago, but are finally moving in this weekend.

I'm honestly more looking forward to not having a giant "house project", than I am actually living in the "new" house. Hopefully the house projects start to be much smaller soon, and then I can get back to putting my orange car back together.

-Steve

Posted by: siverson Aug 9 2015, 07:32 PM

no garage doors (problem with order), still a ton to do, but weve moved in...


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Posted by: mepstein Aug 9 2015, 07:45 PM

Very nice! Enjoy.

Posted by: JmuRiz Aug 9 2015, 07:51 PM

B-ball goal is so low, the 914 can dunk on it

Best of luck on the doors, they can make/break a design.
BTW I've always loved a 914/6 in Irish green!

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 9 2015, 08:01 PM

Congrats! The low aspect of the bed stones is a nice touch.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 9 2015, 10:15 PM

Very exciting- congratulations.

Posted by: siverson Aug 10 2015, 02:21 PM

> the 914 can dunk on it

And so can my 6yo!

-Steve

Posted by: KELTY360 Aug 10 2015, 05:02 PM

Man, that concrete looks so pristine. Do you screen your friends to make sure their cars don't leak oil? I'd hate to leave the first spot.

Posted by: siverson Aug 23 2015, 07:35 PM

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Posted by: euro911 Aug 23 2015, 11:36 PM

Nice garage, Steve!

I'll be gearing up for some garage modifications at our new place soon, so soaking up all the ideas brought up in this thread

Our new RV garage has very high ceiling, so I'm planning on some adding lighting low along the walls illuminating the underbelly of anything that's on the 4-post lift

Can't wait to see your project finished with the new doors

Posted by: siverson Oct 3 2015, 12:25 AM

geez i hate unpacking. for those of you that move actual shops: i dont know how you do it. i still have a lot of organizing and cleaning to do, but i actually parked my car in the garage for the first time tonight. yay.




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Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 3 2015, 06:44 AM

You sprung for the fancy liftmaster door openers. smart move. I love the one I bought. Eliminating the ceiling motor and drive system makes for such a clean install and opens up the space overhead. The lighted door is very cool too.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Oct 3 2015, 07:42 AM

Congratulations. I love the lift in the center stall.

Posted by: siverson Oct 3 2015, 08:54 AM

> You sprung for the fancy liftmaster door openers. aktion035.gif smart move

Yes I used two of the wall mount lifters. On the side glass door I had to, because that door actually slides up above the single door.

And I used one above the lift to provide just a little more height (if needed) when the garage door is down.

-Steve

Posted by: rhodyguy Oct 3 2015, 09:03 AM

The relatively small price dif compared to chain or screw drives makes the wall mounts a no brainer. The self locking feature is sweet too.

Posted by: AZ914 Oct 3 2015, 10:05 AM

Most excellent! Congrats!

Posted by: 396 Oct 3 2015, 10:21 AM

Congrats, looks great. I guess if I was younger and was doing a restro on my place, I would do the same.

Posted by: siverson Feb 19 2016, 05:13 PM

I've been slowly using the garage as an actual garage to get things done, and continue to organize the garage and set things up.

Somehow I had several leftover 4' lights from our old house, so I decided to hang them as well. I guess you can't have too much light.

I ended up with 58 4' bulbs.

-Steve


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Posted by: siverson Feb 19 2016, 05:15 PM

Here is the planned layout.

Next up is the build the benches/extend the tool chest "island".

-Steve



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Posted by: euro911 Feb 19 2016, 07:16 PM

Now you need to convert to the new LED lamps. With 58 40w fluorescent lamps, you're drawing 2320 watts (almost 20 amps)

Love your garage though

Posted by: johnpierre Feb 21 2016, 01:32 AM

holy crap that was awesome...

Posted by: siverson Apr 2 2016, 08:32 AM

i copied this "sucken scissor lift" design and i can report it works very well.

here isthe 3/4" panel i made a couple weeks ago for when not in use.


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Posted by: KELTY360 Apr 2 2016, 09:39 AM

Looks like your garage floor is on life support.



Seriously, you've done a great job of tailoring the space for a 914 collection.

Posted by: euro911 Apr 2 2016, 12:32 PM

You have to drive over the hydraulic hose to get a car on the lift though. If/when I decide where my mid-rise will reside, I think I'll bury an ABS conduit from the pit to where the pump will be located.

Posted by: Cracker May 16 2016, 07:16 AM

Envious - well done. I sent you an email...take a look please. All the best!

Tony

Posted by: Puebloswatcop May 16 2016, 02:58 PM

Man, that looks awesome. I love the layout and the room (as it is measured by 914's). I miss San Diego. Are you out in east county? My parents still live in SD right above Charger Stadium. Gotta come visit.

Posted by: siverson May 16 2016, 08:58 PM

> Now you need to convert to the new LED lamps. With 58 40w fluorescent lamps, you're drawing 2320 watts (almost 20 amps) yikes.gif

Yeah, it ends up being 16 amps with all on (32w bulbs) but I've found I'm just turning on the lights in the applicable bay/work area.


> You have to drive over the hydraulic hose to get a car on the lift though. If/when I decide where my mid-rise will reside, I think I'll bury an ABS conduit from the pit to where the pump will be located.

Yes, I started to do this but I would have had to tear up a lot of good concrete to get the pump where I wanted it. My plan is to build some hard lines with 90 degree turns so I can mount it on a post in the middle of the garage and then I won't have to run over it anywhere. But it really hasn't been a big deal as-is.


> I sent you an email...take a look please.

Got and will do!

> Are you out in east county?

I'm in Encinitas. Just got lucky with a big yard and garage(s).

-Steve

Posted by: siverson May 16 2016, 09:08 PM

From this weekend (and on my other thread). It's so nice to have room to work in.

-Steve



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Posted by: euro911 May 16 2016, 09:12 PM

Posted by: siverson May 16 2016, 09:21 PM

Here is the garage attached to my apartment from 1999-2005 or so that I did the conversion of my orange car. Couldn't fully open either door and that single light builb was the entire lighting in the garage.

Funny [to me] story: This was at a super run down apartment in Pacific Beach (like most in PB). I didn't realize it at the time, but the drywall on the right side of that photo there was literally the interior wall of another apartment unit. I had no idea. There was no insulation or anything. I did a ton of welding and even more grinding in that garage over the course of many months. When I would grind in there, it was just as loud in the apartment as in my garage.

After many months of this, I ended up meeting the girl in that apartment and we dated for about year. But she turned out to be crazy (like most in PB).

-Steve


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Posted by: euro911 May 16 2016, 10:02 PM

Used to be that garages were required to have a minimum 1-hour fire rating if attached to a residential unit - typically gyp board on both sides of all adjoining walls and ceiling.




Not exactly sure WHEN it became code, but my garage/rear house (built in 1949) only had a coating of plaster on the garage ceiling (house is on 2nd story). I installed gyp board under the exterior stairs (when we turned it into an enclosed storage area) and also in the water heater closet in the corner of the garage. IF I ever have enough 'spare' time, I'll insulate and install gyp board on the garage walls too.

I remember two garages in my past, (originally built for model 'T's), that didn't even have concrete floors ... just dirt!

Posted by: rhodyguy May 16 2016, 10:18 PM

Looks like it was just easier to leave the doors off during the build. You new place turned out swell. I love that green car. How do you like the lift master? Quiet and the no motor track makes for lots of headroom.

Posted by: siverson Jul 5 2016, 09:23 AM

The yard is still a mess, and I got tired of climbing up and down this dirt slope to get to the 914 garage from the backyard. So I saw stairs like on Youtube and thought that looked easy. Technically easy, but way more manual labor than I was expecting.

Anyways, I finished now and added some 914 parts to finish it off (from my conversion).

-Steve




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Posted by: siverson Jul 5 2016, 09:23 AM

in progress



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Posted by: siverson Jul 5 2016, 09:25 AM

All done!


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Posted by: siverson Jul 5 2016, 09:28 AM

914 parts!



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Posted by: JmuRiz Jul 5 2016, 10:33 AM

Looks like a good way to sneak in a workout for people that don't like working out...but like not paying someone for yard work (I'm pointing at myself right now).

Very cool space, and VERY cool property!

Posted by: green914 Jul 5 2016, 12:23 PM

Wow! Nice job.

Posted by: euro911 Jul 5 2016, 12:39 PM

Nice

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 5 2016, 12:59 PM

Looks very nice indeed.

Posted by: siverson Apr 27 2017, 05:58 PM

And we got some plants around the stairs [down to the 914 garage] now.

But first, what we started with...




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Posted by: siverson Apr 27 2017, 05:58 PM

And moved some dirt...




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Posted by: siverson Apr 27 2017, 05:59 PM

And built some stairs and added some plants! (and a pool)

-Steve




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Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 27 2017, 06:03 PM

That looks very nice and relaxing.

Posted by: euro911 Apr 28 2017, 01:56 AM

Really awesome job, Steve


When can we come down and hang out?

Posted by: mlindner Apr 28 2017, 07:28 AM

Very nice garage and Lift Steve. Best, Mark

Posted by: mlindner Apr 28 2017, 07:55 AM

Steve, on my lift I cut a 1 inch wide by 1 1/2 deep notch in the cement with just a skill saw and cement blade. Where the hydraulic line goes down to the lift, that needs to be at an angle deeper to give the line room for movement. Best, Mark

Posted by: ValcoOscar Apr 28 2017, 09:00 AM

I made this wall set up from some old scrap metal I had laying around. Roughly 27 ft long X 12 ft tall X 26" deep. All cabinets were just inserted into their openings from the front. Added my wood countertop, pegboard & LED light..ready to work. Huge spacesaver

I have 2 lifts in my garage a 4 post and a 2 post Bendpak

Posted by: JmuRiz Apr 28 2017, 10:23 AM

It's glorious!

Posted by: siverson Apr 28 2017, 11:18 AM

Wow that's awesome.

-Steve

Posted by: jkb944t Apr 28 2017, 06:52 PM

The whole setup looks amazing! Hopefully now you can enjoy all your hard work.

Jeff B

Posted by: siverson Apr 28 2017, 08:15 PM

and the side view from the pool into the 914 garage (where the glass door is).


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Posted by: TheWeatherMan Jul 7 2017, 09:51 AM

did you consider a MaxJax?

Posted by: Ed_Turbo Jul 7 2017, 01:22 PM

Looking great! Tons of work in these hot days but things progressing nicely there. I do not know if people mentioned it since there are a thousand suggestions and comments before me, but a nice concrete sealer would help a ton if you are working on cars. Good to seal the floor while empty.

Also, LED is awesome for lighting. Here check out my little 2 door garage area. Installed (4) 4' foot fixtures (2 lights each fixture which brings it a total of 8) and the output is great at half the power output and longer lasting than flourescent.



What kind of compression system you running?

Posted by: euro911 Jul 7 2017, 09:03 PM

I'm green with envy, Steve ... (or was it indica)

Posted by: siverson Nov 28 2017, 12:05 AM

Garage sunset.


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Posted by: siverson Nov 25 2020, 08:38 PM

Well I've lived here for a little more than 5 years now and thought I'd provide an outside the garage update... The driveway was bad when I moved here and now it's horrible. So I'm finally tackling it (and some front yard landscaping) before I have to move to rally-only 914s.

The top part and circle will be concrete, but the rest of the driveway up will be new asphalt (in January-ish). The driveway demo has begun...

-Steve




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Posted by: siverson Nov 25 2020, 08:38 PM

The plan...


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Posted by: siverson Nov 25 2020, 08:41 PM

Demo (and more playing with the drone)...


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Posted by: siverson Nov 25 2020, 08:43 PM

Looking the other way...


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Posted by: euro911 Nov 25 2020, 11:14 PM

The circular portion will make for a most excellent go-kart track, Steve





I'm going to have to pave from the side roadway in to the detached 4-car garage that's situated on the 'upper 40' at my new place in AZ. Thinking $$$ for asphalt instead of $,$$$ for concrete ... I'll only be around for another 20 years if I'm lucky ... asphalt will work just fine

Posted by: sixnotfour Nov 26 2020, 12:33 PM

Fuch I just thru out 4 930 rotors...cool idea.

Posted by: rhodyguy Nov 26 2020, 02:45 PM

WOW! Cool spread. It's nice to have room. I could never go back to suburban living.

Posted by: siverson Dec 11 2022, 10:02 PM

Driveway update...


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Posted by: siverson Dec 11 2022, 10:07 PM

And I took this before/after photo the other day. Not the same 914... parts car vs my six conversion I recently got running again.

-Steve



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After...



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Posted by: JmuRiz Dec 12 2022, 09:51 AM

Nice....I have a garage, but it's up a steep hill and driveway is 10' wide with a fence and brick house on either side. All that space to actually wash a car and park two-wide would be nice.

Posted by: dstudeba Dec 12 2022, 11:13 AM

Your setup really is so nice. I live in San Diego also but in the part where I am lucky to have a two car garage for the Porsches and ample street parking for the daily drivers.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 13 2022, 09:48 AM

Very nice set-up Steve. Love lots of room for the cars so nothing is crowded together.

Posted by: KELTY360 Dec 13 2022, 05:52 PM

You've come a long way with your place. Fantastic! The only thing missing is oil spots.

Posted by: burton73 Dec 13 2022, 07:56 PM

Your place is totally bitchen. Garage envy but one should not of covet there neighbor but you have built a really great property. well done


Bob B

Posted by: rick 918-S Dec 15 2022, 09:00 PM

Very Nice Steve!! This is out new place. finally got the second garage done.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 16 2022, 07:55 AM

That came out very nice Rick.