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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ 912E 2.0 vs. 914 2.0

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 16 2005, 11:08 AM

any differences?

Posted by: ArtechnikA Feb 16 2005, 11:13 AM

you're talking about just the engine, right ?

basically the long blocks are the same. exhaust is different.

914 2,0 uses D-Jet (MPC) injection, 912E used L-Jet (AFC) injection.

there are tinwork differences due to the different mounting positions.

Posted by: Hi_Fi_Guy Feb 16 2005, 11:13 AM

If memory serves the 912 E engine uses L-Jet F.I. while the 914 2.0 uses D-Jet.

That is the first thing that springs to mind.

Posted by: SLITS Feb 16 2005, 11:15 AM

No difference, except for the FI and Dizzy....It's esentially a '75-'76 Porsche Type 4 engine.

Posted by: URY914 Feb 16 2005, 11:21 AM

The biggest differance is they rotate in different directions. 912 being rear engine facing backwards and 914 facing front.

OK, OK, OK, just messin' with ya.

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 16 2005, 11:24 AM

sweet....do you think that around 1500 for a 912E engine (with sorta-unknown state) is worth it?

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 16 2005, 11:30 AM

They are different, but the differences lie in the FI system and EGR arrangement for the Smog...

The internals and etc are the same as a 76 spec 914/2.0 engine.

912E engines DO NOT have serial numbers on the cases. I do a ton of 912E engine work and have yet to see a real E engine with a serial number.

I have an engine from a 76 912E with 50K miles on it for sale.. It is a factory built well maintained engine that drove into my shop a few years back and has been in my corner every since.. 1400.00 takes it in longblock form... I know its solid.

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 16 2005, 11:33 AM

longblock being complete without FI stuff?

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 16 2005, 11:35 AM

Longblock=
Flywheel installed...

No tin, no induction, and no ignition...

Complete out to the valve covers only...

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 16 2005, 11:40 AM

you might have a buyer.....lemme think about it...where are you located?

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 16 2005, 11:44 AM

Georgia...

I can EASILY have it anywhere in the US in 4 days at a damn good rate...

Location doesn't matter to us at all- 99% of my work goes over 1000 miles away..

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 16 2005, 11:46 AM

I could prolly drink LOTS of coffee and drive my 74 2.0 down there to get it

Posted by: mike_the_man Feb 16 2005, 11:50 AM

If you want to buy an engine, buy it from Jake. If he says it's good, odds are that it'll be very good. Much better than buying one in unknown condition. Just my opinion, fo course, but Jake seems like a very stand up guy. I would not hesitate to buy from him.

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 16 2005, 11:51 AM

me either....i just need to get the FI parts and tin. or i could just use the heads off of the 912E engine if i buy it.

Posted by: jkeyzer Feb 16 2005, 11:52 AM

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 16 2005, 09:46 AM)
I could prolly drink LOTS of coffee and drive my 74 2.0 down there to get it

You're going to try to carry an engine in a 914?

Posted by: bondo Feb 16 2005, 11:58 AM

QUOTE (jkeyzer @ Feb 16 2005, 10:52 AM)

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 16 2005, 09:46 AM)
I could prolly drink LOTS of coffee and drive my 74 2.0 down there to get it

You're going to try to carry an engine in a 914?

You need one of http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-1063414057.jpg.

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 16 2005, 12:10 PM

dude that IS cool anybody got a project car I could buy?....yeah i was gonna carry an enigne in my 914

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 16 2005, 12:18 PM

I have been keeping this engine for myself for the last 5 years...

I was going to install one of my shrouds and slap it into my 62 VW Bus...

I have too many projects and that bus will take another 10 years to complete.....

The engine doesn't need to sit around that long so I decided to sell it......

Its a used engine with no warranty. Like any engine it could go 5 miles or 500,000- its mechanical.

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 16 2005, 12:21 PM

so the heads are obviously good then correct? Would I be competiting with other people on this engine?

Posted by: Jake Raby Feb 16 2005, 12:37 PM

The heads alone as cores are worth 5-700.00...

If the heads were not "good" I would not be selling the engine. It passed a leak down and compression check when I removed it- thats the reason why I didn't just tear it down and make a best out of it..

A factory assembled low mileage engine is difficult to beat.

Thats why I was gonna keep it.

One more person wants it, but I have no money yet..

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 16 2005, 12:59 PM

that's awesome man!!!!! i'll get back to you in a day or two....my father wanted to get a 2.0 for my new pink car and i NEED new heads...so this sounds like a great deal!

Posted by: anthony Feb 16 2005, 01:23 PM

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 16 2005, 10:24 AM)
sweet....do you think that around 1500 for a 912E engine (with sorta-unknown state) is worth it?

If it's a complete 912E engine with tin and everything it might be worth some bucks. I thought that some 912E specific parts were priced like unobtanium. Couldn't hurt to do some research.

Posted by: jkeyzer Feb 16 2005, 01:44 PM

Budget at least a couple hundred bucks for a set of 2.0 engine tin and a fuel injection system (or carbs).

Posted by: SLITS Feb 16 2005, 02:04 PM

QUOTE (anthony @ Feb 16 2005, 12:23 PM)

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 16 2005, 10:24 AM)
sweet....do you think that around 1500 for a 912E engine (with sorta-unknown state) is worth it?

If it's a complete 912E engine with tin and everything it might be worth some bucks. I thought that some 912E specific parts were priced like unobtanium. Couldn't hurt to do some research.

Sheetmetal primarily...correct dizzy....some of the smog stuff

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 16 2005, 03:04 PM

QUOTE (anthony @ Feb 16 2005, 01:23 PM)

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Feb 16 2005, 10:24 AM)
sweet....do you think that around 1500 for a 912E engine (with sorta-unknown state) is worth it?

If it's a complete 912E engine with tin and everything it might be worth some bucks. I thought that some 912E specific parts were priced like unobtanium. Couldn't hurt to do some research.

yeah but i dont trust this porsche guy....i really don't. He's shady. If i ever had anything needed to be done I take my 914 to the VW shop....the guy there is super awesome

Posted by: bd1308 Feb 16 2005, 03:28 PM

Jake, you are a savior for cheap bastards liek me.....YOUR AWESOME!!!!