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Posted by: 914350 Apr 27 2015, 08:55 AM

I received the COA for the 914-6 That Andy and I hauled back from Tennessee and it has the Transmission number listed on it (it is matching by the way biggrin.gif ). Andy mentioned that he has seen many COA's that don't have the Trans. number on them so the question is... "Does your COA list a Transmission number or does it not?
...also What are your thoughts on why some due and many don't? The obvious answer being that the info. wasn't logged or has been lost but if you have any other idea as to why.

Thanks.

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Apr 27 2015, 09:30 AM

I own 2 914's & have 2 COA's. Both say the same thing: "Trans number not recorded". I'd like to see a COA from a 1970's 911, 924 or a 928 to see if those were recorded.
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Posted by: Socalandy Apr 27 2015, 09:45 AM

I was told by the COA dept. That not all the info was documented by the factory. different workers were more complete than others? other have said once they moved to Atlanta the info listed decreased and maybe due to the loss of records.

I'm sure we'll never know for sure mad.gif

Posted by: Luke M Apr 27 2015, 09:45 AM

My trans # is not listed on my COA also. It states the same thing as yours not recorded. I guess you could always check the Porsche archive if you are ever in Germany. The next time I visit the museum I'll check on mine to see if it was ever recorded.

Posted by: rdauenhauer Apr 27 2015, 09:49 AM

Not.

Posted by: 914Next Apr 27 2015, 10:32 AM

QUOTE(rdauenhauer @ Apr 27 2015, 11:49 AM) *

Not.



Mine says not available.

Posted by: Kansas 914 Apr 27 2015, 10:34 AM

I have an early 1972/4 and it is not recorded. I ordered my COA about 5 years ago.

Posted by: andrew15 Apr 27 2015, 10:37 AM

My 1970 911E didn't have the transaxle number recorded on the COA either

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Apr 27 2015, 10:45 AM

QUOTE(andrew15 @ Apr 27 2015, 12:37 PM) *

My 1970 911E didn't have the transaxle number recorded on the COA either

Thanks for the info. Nice to see the 914 was not singled out as the redheaded stepchild.

Posted by: zambezi Apr 27 2015, 11:13 AM

My understanding (coming from the 356 world) is that the COA info comes from the Kardex, which was used for warranty purposes. So based on that, if your car never experienced a warranty issue with the transmission, the number may not have been noted.

Posted by: 914350 Apr 27 2015, 11:26 AM

QUOTE(zambezi @ Apr 27 2015, 10:13 AM) *

My understanding (coming from the 356 world) is that the COA info comes from the Kardex, which was used for warranty purposes. So based on that, if your car never experienced a warranty issue with the transmission, the number may not have been noted.


That is interesting but I thought the COA was information from the time of manufacture, not dealer records on warranties.

Posted by: MJHanna Apr 27 2015, 12:41 PM

My COA on my 69 911S has the trans number listed.

Posted by: bembry Apr 27 2015, 07:24 PM

Mine's a 73 2.0 (4732913367)--no trans number on my COA. I've had the COA for 5 or 6 years.

Posted by: r_towle Apr 27 2015, 09:00 PM

Maybe it's possible that the 914/6 listed the transmission because they are unique to the 914/6 cars.
The /4 trannies are the same across the three engine lines, well the gearing is at least.

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Apr 27 2015, 09:03 PM

QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 27 2015, 11:00 PM) *

Maybe it's possible that the 914/6 listed the transmission because they are unique to the 914/6 cars.
The /4 trannies are the same across the three engine lines, well the gearing is at least.

Nope, my six is a real six & the COA has no tranny # recorded.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 27 2015, 10:03 PM

My Six has the transaxle listed on the COA.

Posted by: balljoint Apr 28 2015, 08:23 AM

If the serial numbers were hand written by the assemblers, and the data was transferred at a much later date to a digital format it is certainly possible that not all numbers were legible. They may have had a policy to disregard the data if it was possible to transpose it incorrectly.

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Apr 28 2015, 08:50 AM

The 914 Grasshopper had a COA with the tranny # on it. I simply told PCNA what it was and they put it on the COA. That was then.


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Posted by: rudedude Apr 28 2015, 08:59 AM

My six is not recorded, my 72T has a # both coa about 10 yrs old

Posted by: Steve Apr 28 2015, 08:59 AM

My 1975 COA also says not recorded for the transmission.

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Apr 28 2015, 09:02 AM

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Apr 28 2015, 10:50 AM) *

The 914 Grasshopper had a COA with the tranny # on it. I simply told PCNA what it was and they put it on the COA. That was then.

GRASSHOPPER?! biggrin.gif

This goes with what I've said before regarding COA's... the more "homework" you do for them, the better the results are. It's absurd, since you're paying them to do the work, yet the results are garbage unless you do it for them. You end up doing the work & paying for it as well; Porsche should address this ASAP, or stop offering COA's. dry.gif

Posted by: toolguy Apr 28 2015, 10:08 AM

FWIW, my real Six transmission number last 4 digits are identical to the Karman 'trunk' number.

Posted by: Gustl Apr 28 2015, 11:37 AM

QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Apr 28 2015, 04:02 PM) *

This goes with what I've said before regarding COA's... the more "homework" you do for them, the better the results are.

in Europe - well at least in Germany and Austria - it works a little different
when you order the COA for your car, you have to tell them your VIN, engine number and tranny number - and only if the numbers you provided match the numbers recorded in their documents, you get them written down onto the COA

they say this is to prevent "fake matching numbers cars" ...


btw - my car has all matching numbers (including transmission), certified by Porsche aktion035.gif


Posted by: Johny Blackstain Apr 28 2015, 12:28 PM

QUOTE(Gustl @ Apr 28 2015, 01:37 PM) *

QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Apr 28 2015, 04:02 PM) *

This goes with what I've said before regarding COA's... the more "homework" you do for them, the better the results are.

in Europe - well at least in Germany and Austria - it works a little different
when you order the COA for your car, you have to tell them your VIN, engine number and tranny number - and only if the numbers you provided match the numbers recorded in their documents, you get them written down onto the COA

they say this is to prevent "fake matching numbers cars" ...


btw - my car has all matching numbers (including transmission), certified by Porsche aktion035.gif

It figures- a PCA problem, not a factory one. Still, the factory needs to "supervise" PCA more.

Posted by: 914350 Apr 28 2015, 02:16 PM

QUOTE(Gustl @ Apr 28 2015, 10:37 AM) *

QUOTE(Johny Blackstain @ Apr 28 2015, 04:02 PM) *

This goes with what I've said before regarding COA's... the more "homework" you do for them, the better the results are.

in Europe - well at least in Germany and Austria - it works a little different
when you order the COA for your car, you have to tell them your VIN, engine number and tranny number - and only if the numbers you provided match the numbers recorded in their documents, you get them written down onto the COA

they say this is to prevent "fake matching numbers cars" ...


btw - my car has all matching numbers (including transmission), certified by Porsche aktion035.gif


That's exactly how it works with VW Bugs and Ghia's ect. when getting a "Birth Cert." they will only verify a number that you give them. This wasn't the case years back but again because people were alegedly (most likely) faking engine numbers, they changed their policy.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Apr 28 2015, 08:21 PM

'69 911S , yes
'70 914 6, no
And, as noted elsewhere, trans numbers on 914s' and 914 6s' are usually within a
few numbers of the chassis number. And sometimes a match.
Also, if a car is ordered with a factory ltd. slip diff, it is more likely to be recorded.

Posted by: larryM Apr 29 2015, 05:59 PM

nope - 9140430919 - "not recorded"

QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 27 2015, 08:00 PM) *

Maybe it's possible that the 914/6 listed the transmission because they are unique to the 914/6 cars.
The /4 trannies are the same across the three engine lines, well the gearing is at least.


Posted by: Mr.242 May 6 2015, 05:02 PM

Just got mine today and I have a transmission number. Now to climb under to see if it matches. smile.gif

Posted by: mskala Nov 28 2015, 12:30 PM

Got my COA for the -6 and it lists transmission serial number.

So I have matching eng, trans, and equipment is what I was expecting piratenanner.gif

Posted by: rgalla9146 Nov 28 2015, 01:27 PM

My 69 S has the trans number recorded on the COA.
However, it was an ordered car with a long list of options.
The COA is from February, 2013
The 914 6 that I've owned since 1984 had no transmission number noted according to a letter I received from Porsche AG (via AirMail !) in 1984.

Holy Cow, I'm gettin' old !.......... Just see now that I responded to this thread in April

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