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Posted by: scott thacher Feb 25 2005, 04:03 PM
its alivvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 
it started, its loud with no exhaust but it started the only trouble code is the gas tank sender, its needs a bigger resistor
Posted by: redshift Feb 25 2005, 04:05 PM
ROCK! Dood, I am so happy for you! Damn!
M!
Posted by: Headrage Feb 25 2005, 04:08 PM
Hey Miles, do you really mean it or are you still in a drug induced euphoric state? Way to go Scott.
Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Feb 25 2005, 04:13 PM
Way to GO!!!!!
What did you do for a VSS
Posted by: scott thacher Feb 25 2005, 04:14 PM
this is some much stress off of my back, i did not know if there was something fried in the brain ( ecu ), or one of 200 something connections, or just a fucked up wiring.
now i KNOW the car is going to be okay, its just things that we all do every week around here like bolting the exhaust on, clutch cable, cy joints ect ect
Posted by: scott thacher Feb 25 2005, 04:18 PM
| QUOTE (BIGKAT_83 @ Feb 25 2005, 02:13 PM) |
| What did you do for a VSS |
nothing yet that is an easy 10 dollar or less fix
but its ALIVE, hiede has a heart beat and brain power, shes off of life support doing very well
Posted by: aircooledboy Feb 25 2005, 04:19 PM
Big Honking Congrats my man!!!!
Posted by: scott thacher Feb 25 2005, 04:20 PM
the PORSHARU is alive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Feb 25 2005, 04:22 PM
| QUOTE (scott thacher @ Feb 25 2005, 05:18 PM) | ||
nothing yet that is an easy 10 dollar or less fix but its ALIVE, hiede has a heart beat and brain power, shes off of life support doing very well |
Give me a clue I need one myself and how many ppr do you use with your sabaru
Bob
Posted by: scott thacher Feb 25 2005, 04:24 PM
| QUOTE (BIGKAT_83 @ Feb 25 2005, 02:22 PM) |
| Give me a clue I need one myself and how many ppr do you use with your sabaru Bob |
its supposed to have 4 but i am only doing 3 so the speed governer does not kick in, i will send you something later
Posted by: seanery Feb 25 2005, 04:26 PM
sweet dude!
Congrats!!
Posted by: scott thacher Feb 25 2005, 04:39 PM
did i mention the 98 subaru engine is in a 75 porsche 914 and running
Posted by: spare time toys Feb 25 2005, 05:09 PM
I like when that happens. It gives me a boost to get mine done.
Posted by: pete-stevers Feb 25 2005, 05:13 PM
got any pics 
Posted by: redshift Feb 25 2005, 05:17 PM
Oh, I am sick as a dog, and I am still happy!
Posted by: mattillac Feb 25 2005, 05:49 PM
i hate you. i'm just kidding! i'm soooo jealous right now! '98 ej25 is dohc right? by the way...
WAY TO GOOOOOOO!
TIME TO PARTY! 
now lets see some pics! 
Posted by: MecGen Feb 25 2005, 06:11 PM
CONGRATS
I've been folowing your stuff in different threds since the start. You Rock !
I am an aircooled purist, but I find myself taking your stuff to a "saved" folder. Its a real option....can't wait till you drive it.
Cheers
Joe
Posted by: Chris H. Feb 25 2005, 07:43 PM
Good for you Scott. That's a relief I'm sure. Hell, I feel relieved and I didn't do anything but read all the posts!
Posted by: mattillac Feb 25 2005, 07:47 PM
and have a couple of these... 
you earned it.
Posted by: scott thacher Feb 25 2005, 09:38 PM
okay before anybody asks and for the free bump : hehe, here is a basic break down of my costs not including the car but with some stuff left to do
engine 1500 including delivery
sold stock for 450 ( so minus )
adapter kit from kep 450
various steel costs 50 bucks
wiring stuff about 10 bucks ( solder tape resistors etc )
gas welder including gas 100
very good used clutch and pressure plate 40 bucks
new suby radiator 180
new radiator fan 12 inch 1400 cfm 42 bucks
new steel fuel line 5 bucks
various hoses 30 bucks
new battery 40 bucks ( not optima yet )
stuff left to buy/do
flexible scoop for radiator intake will be about 40 buck or less
parts for speed sensor 10 or less
exhaust maybe 100
total to date $ 1997
stuff that will cost more money $ 150
total cost priceless
Posted by: redshift Feb 26 2005, 02:44 AM
But how much is the cost in dog dollars?
M
Posted by: VegasRacer Feb 26 2005, 03:01 AM
Great news Scott. I can't wait to see and hear it at the WCC.
Posted by: Hydra Feb 26 2005, 10:23 AM
any news about that cooling?
Posted by: Chris H. Feb 26 2005, 10:35 AM
Although I am not really an expert on engineering side of this deal, I think it's gonna work. I'm a little worried about a stop-and-go traffic situation, but Scott will probably figure that out too. Anyone who can go through the Subaru wiring harness and cut out all the stuff you don't need and then actually get the thing started afterwards is a superhero in my book.
Posted by: scott thacher Feb 26 2005, 09:44 PM
todays update, i installed the radiator and hooked up the top cooling hose, the bottom hose is being a PIA. so i might modify the radiator to make it easier in the future. i also hooked up the heater bypass, as well as replaced a hose under neith the motor that had be cut when the motor got pulled from the suby. i tried to bolt up the exaust manifold but it hits the clutch pulley, i was hoping it would clear and i could use the stock manifold, but i get to modify the stock one, oh what fun.
i had it idleing for about a min tonight and 2 more codes poped up ( yes i ran it with no cooling for 1 min block did not even get warm ) they were codes for evap stuff that i can fix with resistors. and the last thing i found is i must have a wire wrong when i turned the key off it kept running, so i think i have the wire from the on key postion tied to the battery line, that would explain why the check engine light is on all the time.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 26 2005, 09:58 PM
Scott,
THis is TOO COOL!!! It sounds like an amazing car. Can you put the cobb tuning package on this motor? That would be a trick setup!!!
Posted by: Series9 Feb 26 2005, 10:02 PM
There is NOTHING like the first time an engine lights off.
Major congrats.
I'm looking forward to seeing it in person.
Posted by: scott thacher Feb 26 2005, 10:04 PM
yes it would take the cobb package but i have read a few things about the 96 to 99 dohc block. things like a weak point that shows up at about 210 hp, so i will stick with it as it is
Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 26 2005, 10:08 PM
| QUOTE (scott thacher @ Feb 26 2005, 10:04 PM) |
| yes it would take the cobb package but i have read a few things about the 96 to 99 dohc block. things like a weak point that shows up at about 210 hp, so i will stick with it as it is |
I saw where some of the WRX motors are getting 300 HP with the cobb package. Now that would be a real trip in a 914!!!!!!!
BTW.....
Posted by: fiid Feb 26 2005, 11:39 PM
nice work dude. shit. better get my ass in gear
Posted by: redshift Feb 26 2005, 11:42 PM
how much power will this thing mill?
What is the rev range like again?
M
Posted by: scott thacher Feb 26 2005, 11:47 PM
| QUOTE (redshift @ Feb 26 2005, 09:42 PM) |
| how much power will this thing mill? What is the rev range like again? M |
stock is 165 hp and 160 fp, after egr and removing one cat, i would guess about 175 hp. revs are to 7k, rev limiter at 7200, the stock tach had the red at 6500
Posted by: redshift Feb 27 2005, 12:31 AM
Being a similar design, I guess it likes being held at 3/4 power forever... hmm..
I never seem to be able to google out what I am looking for about these motors. Where are the Xtreme!!! Tuner thingys for them?
I know there are like 320hp+ /6 out there too..
I just really like this conversion... it's smart.
M
Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 27 2005, 01:23 AM
WTG!
Posted by: Hydra Feb 27 2005, 09:37 AM
once again great job scott
Posted by: 914helo Feb 27 2005, 10:01 AM
Way to go Scott This is great motivation to finish up the bodywork on my car so I can get my SVX motor installed in mine. Congrats!
Posted by: scott thacher Feb 27 2005, 03:14 PM
| QUOTE (redshift @ Feb 26 2005, 10:31 PM) |
| I never seem to be able to google out what I am looking for about these motors. Where are the Xtreme!!! Tuner thingys for them? I just really like this conversion... it's smart. M |
well miles for the best tuning info go to http://www.cobbtuning.com/main.html , they have a cam that gives 19 hp at the fly wheel on a stock head and ecu. then if you want more power they have heads good for 30 hp, pricey but nice up grade, between the cam and the head getting to 215 on an other wise stock motor would be wild.
and yes i think it is a smart conversion more hp, more reliable, modern and easy to find fi parts, and basicly the same design. i personally see it as what porsche would have done if the had keep the design and water cooled it for the modern world.
now for the update cooling is great, i put the hoses in for the radiator, filled her up, and fired her up. after about 10 mins the thermostat opened, then kept her running for another 10 mins on idle. the top hose got warm so water was flowing, the passenger side of the radiator got warm ( supply to rad. ) the drivers side ( return to engine ) never even got warm it stayed at about ambinat temp ( about 50 degrees ) the whole time, for 10 mins of idleing while sucking some exhaust gases due to no exhaust pipe. all this was done with the fan hot wired to run all the time ( 1400 cfm fan ). so it appears cooling wont be a problem
Posted by: MecGen Feb 27 2005, 04:23 PM
Cool ST
You have to make sure you have a guage on that puppy.
T-stat opens at 90deg cel or 180 f , so if your thermosat is working/opened but your guage says 50 ?
Maybe I'm confused, this is such a cool project, don't want anything to go wrong
Let us know
Cheers
Joe
Posted by: Chris H. Feb 27 2005, 06:02 PM
How about some pics of what the engine bay looks like now with the radiator installed Scott? 
Posted by: neo914-6 Feb 27 2005, 06:11 PM
Sweeet!
Posted by: scott thacher Feb 28 2005, 12:30 PM
okay pics it is, sorry the car needs a clean up
drivers side view
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Posted by: scott thacher Feb 28 2005, 12:31 PM
pass side view
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Posted by: scott thacher Feb 28 2005, 12:33 PM
close up
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Posted by: dmenche914 Mar 8 2005, 12:40 AM
Judging from your costs of about 2 grand for the conversion, and I take a guess at the car costing say 4 grand, you have a 6 grand Boxster, what a good deal! You might even be eating them new fangled Boxsters for lunch if they want to race you. You should have at least as much power, and maybe 30% less wieght. That equals one faster car, and one that can handle quicker, all for 6 grand.
Great job. I hope you can photographically document your car on this posting some more, any underside shots? (No I not a pervert!)
I appears you have the radiator in the location that once was for the fan on the type IV engine, is that correct?
Posted by: scott thacher Mar 8 2005, 09:06 AM
yes your correct, the radiator is in front of the motor. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=24791&hl=radiator is my radiator thread, it shows pics of the radiator support frame and shrouding.
as for boxters they have 80 more hp than i do, but i have them with weight. i will have between 170 to 180 hp when all said and done.
on last thing, my car is a 2300 dollar ebay car, that needed a paint job, at the time it was almost rust free, on the surface, i have a few spots i need to fix.
Posted by: Gint Mar 8 2005, 09:15 AM
'grats Scott!
Posted by: TonyAKAVW Mar 8 2005, 02:18 PM
Any idea how hard this conversion would be if it had to be smog legal? It seems like it just needs the cats and everything else is already there?
-Tony
Posted by: scott thacher Mar 8 2005, 02:35 PM
| QUOTE (TonyAKAVW @ Mar 8 2005, 12:18 PM) |
| Any idea how hard this conversion would be if it had to be smog legal? It seems like it just needs the cats and everything else is already there? -Tony |
not too hard they do em with the vanagons. as i found out the stock exhaust will not work, the cats become another issue. i did figure out how to do it but the exhaust would cost a couple of hundred alone.
but as you said everything else is there and not too bad to do.
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