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Posted by: Chris H. Jul 17 2015, 01:08 PM

Looks pretty crusty (not Krusty...then it would be AWESOME) but intact.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-914-6-targa-top-/161765740185?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25a9fd4e99&item=161765740185

No interest at all, just pointing it out.

Posted by: pete000 Jul 17 2015, 03:21 PM

Always amazes me these turn up after being burred for years. Cool !

Posted by: Porschef Jul 17 2015, 03:26 PM

C'mon Len, go have a look.

I know you want to... drooley.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 17 2015, 03:36 PM

I wonder if that is numbers matching. Sure looks pretty original. Definitely needs a complete restoration.

Posted by: lalee914 Jul 17 2015, 03:39 PM

In case anyone is interested, This car has been advertised in Excellence and Panorama. Here is the advertising history for this car with personal information deleted:

70 914 0 "Roadster" 9140431380
"Registered 1971, minor rust but all original solid car. Complete with some new parts.
$8500 OBO."
"Joe"
"201-***-****" 4/1/1989 "Excellence" PG 84

70 914 0 "Roadster" 9140431380
"59 Convertible D #86653, 54 bent window Cab #60614, 70 914-6 #9140431380,
75 911S #9115201855 black/tan, Carrera-look, new paint, new tires $16,900.
61 356 twin grill Notch back #201839, runs great, $9,800. 2 `63 coups #213366
& #213314, $10,900 for both."
$0
"Jack" "*********"
"Brimingham" "MI" "48009"
"313-***-****" 6/1/1989 "Excellence" PG 84

70 914 0 "Roadster" 9140431380
"Sig org/blk, 3rd owner, all orig, some pan rust, some new parts, great daily driver,
80,000 mi, runs, looks & drives great"
$8500
"Joe" "*****"
"Brick" "NJ" "08723"
"201-***-****" 12/1/1989 "Panorama" PG 92

70 914 0 "Roadster" 9140431380
"Signal orange & black comp. orig. car, runs great, many new parts, needs pan work."
$8500
"Joe" "*****"
"Brick" "NJ" "08723"
"908-***-****" 6/1/1991 "Excellence" PG 107

for information on 914/6 advertising histories visit: www.p914-6info.net

Larry Lee
Vestal, NY


Posted by: Johny Blackstain Jul 17 2015, 04:26 PM

$16,100 & reserve not met, in that condition. Genuine sixes are really getting pricey!

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Jul 17 2015, 04:31 PM

My hopes of ever finding a -6 just died if that rotted out one still brings in that kind of dough...

Maybe its Magnus bidding on it!

Posted by: Kansas 914 Jul 17 2015, 04:40 PM

QUOTE(iwanta914-6 @ Jul 17 2015, 04:31 PM) *

My hopes of ever finding a -6 just died if that rotted out one still brings in that kind of dough...


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Posted by: Chris H. Jul 17 2015, 05:00 PM

Center storage bin top is gone...dry.gif . WTF.gif

Yeah the days of $30k buying you a NICE one are gone. I guess you only wish it was still like that if you DON'T own one now. If you do, good for you beerchug.gif .

Posted by: bandjoey Jul 17 2015, 05:26 PM

Looks like original Dunlap tires and a good restoration car. Wish I had the money hissyfit.gif

Posted by: rick 918-S Jul 17 2015, 07:08 PM

Wonder what the reserve is?

Posted by: VZ935 Jul 17 2015, 07:46 PM

I just bought a barn find 1970-6 last week in the San Jose /Monterey area of California. It is not listed on the http://p914-6info.net/ so I can find no earlier info on the car.

But if you people think at 16k that car is expensive then I think I made a big booboo... oh well smile.gif

Posted by: Larmo63 Jul 17 2015, 08:04 PM

I would give $15-16K for it.

There is a limit.

Posted by: r_towle Jul 17 2015, 09:30 PM

Where is that car?

Posted by: rick 918-S Jul 17 2015, 09:40 PM

QUOTE(r_towle @ Jul 17 2015, 10:30 PM) *

Where is that car?


Location showing on the ebay post is NY.

Posted by: Larmo63 Jul 17 2015, 10:30 PM

Where's NY?

Lol.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jul 17 2015, 10:33 PM

QUOTE(Larmo63 @ Jul 17 2015, 11:30 PM) *

Where's NY?

Lol.


Comeon fellas your killen me here. Forgetabout it!


Shipping:

Buyer responsible for vehicle pick-up or shipping | Vehicle shipping quote available






Item location:

Millerton, New York, United States



Posted by: carr914 Jul 18 2015, 04:09 AM

QUOTE(VZ935 @ Jul 17 2015, 09:46 PM) *

I just bought a barn find 1970-6 last week in the San Jose /Monterey area of California. It is not listed on the http://p914-6info.net/ so I can find no earlier info on the car.

But if you people think at 16k that car is expensive then I think I made a big booboo... oh well smile.gif


Hi Van! bye1.gif

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Posted by: Big Len Jul 18 2015, 05:53 AM

QUOTE(Porschef @ Jul 17 2015, 05:26 PM) *

C'mon Len, go have a look.

I know you want to... drooley.gif


No, I don't want to.

2 hours away......

No, I don't want to.

It's a six for God's sake....

No, I don't want to.

Posted by: Chris H. Jul 18 2015, 08:33 AM

Do the door gaps look weird? Check the drivers side front. Pretty wide at the bottom. Someone needs to go look at this thing...

And who did the weird bid biggrin.gif ? $16,867.76 and NOT A PENNY MORE!

Posted by: VZ935 Jul 18 2015, 09:36 AM

Thanks T.C.

Though it seems by this thread I paid too much for this 6 it kind of fell into my lap and as much as I know about some Porsche's I know a 914-6 is mid engine and that is about it. Just enough to get myself in trouble smile.gif
I did check with a friend at the factory and it is numbers matching.
It is what it is but this will be a nice car when I am finished with it.


QUOTE(carr914 @ Jul 18 2015, 03:09 AM) *

QUOTE(VZ935 @ Jul 17 2015, 09:46 PM) *

I just bought a barn find 1970-6 last week in the San Jose /Monterey area of California. It is not listed on the http://p914-6info.net/ so I can find no earlier info on the car.

But if you people think at 16k that car is expensive then I think I made a big booboo... oh well smile.gif


Hi Van! bye1.gif

welcome.png


Posted by: Dave_Darling Jul 18 2015, 11:48 AM

Hopefully yours isn't as rough as the one being discussed here. Condition is so very important with these cars--it is easy to spend more than they are worth on fixing structural rust...

--DD

Posted by: Heeltoe914 Jul 18 2015, 12:52 PM

Half the joy of purchasing a classic car is the enjoyment of restoring it playing with it and searching out the parts. If you got all that then you got a good deal...

Posted by: VZ935 Jul 18 2015, 05:53 PM

I have restored a few Porsche's so I am no stranger to that process and understand the advantages of having a complete car that is not full of rust. This 914 has some areas that need attention but not bad and very complete.

Helltoe914 your car looks a lot like a guy I ran with in the mid 90's named Bill Newlin

Posted by: Dave_Darling Jul 18 2015, 10:11 PM

Yup, that's Newlin's old car. smile.gif You knew Bill? Cool, I used to autoX with him at one point. He drove me to John Clever's memorial in his 928; I think that's the last time I talked to him.

--DD

Posted by: VZ935 Jul 19 2015, 06:07 AM

Both of us were members of the GGR of PCA. Bill was more of a auto x and time trial guy and I pretty much raced but did do some time trialing with the club.
Last time I saw Bill and his wife Rebecca was when I won the Porsche Parade race at Thunderhill around 2000. Rebecca sang the National Anthem. Can't remember if Bill raced or not.
I recognized the car right away even in that little photo.
Very nice people .


QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Jul 18 2015, 09:11 PM) *

Yup, that's Newlin's old car. smile.gif You knew Bill? Cool, I used to autoX with him at one point. He drove me to John Clever's memorial in his 928; I think that's the last time I talked to him.

--DD


Posted by: URY914 Jul 19 2015, 06:37 AM

Hey Van,

Welcome to the 914world. welcome.png


Paul

Posted by: RobW Jul 19 2015, 07:09 AM

QUOTE(URY914 @ Jul 19 2015, 05:37 AM) *

Hey Van,

Welcome to the 914world. welcome.png


Paul

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We all love to see build threads and pictures. Good luck with your 914/6 restoration.

Posted by: infraredcalvin Jul 19 2015, 09:59 AM

Another turbo guy seduced by the 914, good to have you here! beer.gif

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Posted by: ice cold Jul 19 2015, 11:06 AM

QUOTE(VZ935 @ Jul 17 2015, 09:46 PM) *

I just bought a barn find 1970-6 last week in the San Jose /Monterey area of California. It is not listed on the http://p914-6info.net/ so I can find no earlier info on the car.

But if you people think at 16k that car is expensive then I think I made a big booboo... oh well smile.gif



Are you feeling better about your purchase yet? If a nicely restore six is going for $70-$80k there is a fair amount of expense that can be incurred and still be in the black money wise.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Jul 19 2015, 01:05 PM

Millerton NY is near Lime Rock Ct.
Pretty sure his car belongs to a family of known Porsche enthusiasts.

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Jul 19 2015, 02:14 PM

EEK, $21,600 for this one on ebay, wow!

I understand that these can go for $70K+ if restored well, but man I'll just have to be happy if I can find a decent 2.0 for around $10K when I'm ready...

Posted by: stevegm Jul 19 2015, 02:21 PM

QUOTE(ice cold @ Jul 19 2015, 01:06 PM) *

QUOTE(VZ935 @ Jul 17 2015, 09:46 PM) *

I just bought a barn find 1970-6 last week in the San Jose /Monterey area of California. It is not listed on the http://p914-6info.net/ so I can find no earlier info on the car.

But if you people think at 16k that car is expensive then I think I made a big booboo... oh well smile.gif



Are you feeling better about your purchase yet? If a nicely restore six is going for $70-$80k there is a fair amount of expense that can be incurred and still be in the black money wise.



I bet I would get the award for buying the worst condition six. Mine is pretty rough. And as I collect parts to restore it, they add up fast. But, my guess is still that the reserve on this one is between $25k - 30k.

Posted by: VZ935 Jul 20 2015, 09:43 AM

Paul ! Guys thanks for the warm welcome !



I feel okay about the purchase. Would have liked to have paid less but at least I got a car that is pretty clean. Other than a couple of wrinkles on the passenger side door and some rust on the back edge of the rear deck lid the body is real straight, no accidents and original paint , though very faded. Battery tray has a little surface rust in spots but solid.

I like cars no one has ever seen before. My yellow #84 935 is like that. I think I am the fourth owner and between me and the previous owner it has been in our hands since 1988. Though there is nothing wrong with it, it is nice when you go to an event and five different people there didn't own your car before you did.



QUOTE(URY914 @ Jul 19 2015, 05:37 AM) *

Hey Van,

Welcome to the 914world. welcome.png


Paul

Posted by: VZ935 Jul 20 2015, 09:57 AM

Ebay car
reserve met at $27,500.00 with a day to go

QUOTE(Chris H. @ Jul 17 2015, 12:08 PM) *

Looks pretty crusty (not Krusty...then it would be AWESOME) but intact.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-914-6-targa-top-/161765740185?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25a9fd4e99&item=161765740185

No interest at all, just pointing it out.


Posted by: iwanta914-6 Jul 20 2015, 10:06 AM

QUOTE(VZ935 @ Jul 20 2015, 10:43 AM) *

Paul ! Guys thanks for the warm welcome !

I feel okay about the purchase. Would have liked to have paid less but at least I got a car that is pretty clean. Other than a couple of wrinkles on the passenger side door and some rust on the back edge of the rear deck lid the body is real straight, no accidents and original paint , though very faded. Battery tray has a little surface rust in spots but solid.

I like cars no one has ever seen before. My yellow #84 935 is like that. I think I am the fourth owner and between me and the previous owner it has been in our hands since 1988. Though there is nothing wrong with it, it is nice when you go to an event and five different people there didn't own your car before you did.



I'm sure everyone would like to pay less, but if someone has the money, the opportunity to purchase a -6 doesn't come up often and it shows in what they are worth now when restored.

The rising prices of all 914s I fear is eventually going to price me out of the market when I have the funds to make a purchase. It's awesome for everyone that already has one though. Congrats on your purchase, it sounds like you got a nice project!

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Jul 20 2015, 10:10 AM

QUOTE(Chris H. @ Jul 17 2015, 02:08 PM) *

Looks pretty crusty (not Krusty...then it would be AWESOME) but intact.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-914-6-targa-top-/161765740185?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25a9fd4e99&item=161765740185

No interest at all, just pointing it out.


The seller of this one can't be too thrilled with a high bidder that has one feedback. It looks fishy too with that bidder upping his/her own high bid a couple of times. Reserve is met too.

Posted by: Heeltoe914 Jul 20 2015, 10:12 AM

QUOTE(VZ935 @ Jul 18 2015, 04:53 PM) *

I have restored a few Porsche's so I am no stranger to that process and understand the advantages of having a complete car that is not full of rust. This 914 has some areas that need attention but not bad and very complete.

Helltoe914 your car looks a lot like a guy I ran with in the mid 90's named Bill Newlin




Glad you noticed the car. Yes from the records I can find Bill was the owner and builder. This was the second version of the car. Somewhere down the line the first version got totaled at the Grand Opening event at Buttonwillow with POC. I have the molds for the bodywork. It had been run by bill with a 4 now it has a 3.6 very fun car..

Posted by: tweet Jul 20 2015, 12:14 PM

So, the bid is up to $27,500.00. I wonder if these bidders have noticed that the ad makes no reference to any documentation. The seller does not make any reference to title work. That's a lot of money to fork over without having clear title in hand.

Seller does however state, "Car sold as is With NO warranties or guaranties".

Posted by: Mike Fitton Jul 20 2015, 12:36 PM

QUOTE(iwanta914-6 @ Jul 20 2015, 08:10 AM) *

QUOTE(Chris H. @ Jul 17 2015, 02:08 PM) *

Looks pretty crusty (not Krusty...then it would be AWESOME) but intact.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-914-6-targa-top-/161765740185?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25a9fd4e99&item=161765740185

No interest at all, just pointing it out.


The seller of this one can't be too thrilled with a high bidder that has one feedback. It looks fishy too with that bidder upping his/her own high bid a couple of times. Reserve is met too.



My guess is the current high bidder with 1 feedback is really a friend of the seller.

Posted by: tweet Jul 20 2015, 12:43 PM

Scroll to the bottom of the bid page you will see:

Bid retraction and cancellation history

Bidder Action Date of Bid and Retraction

l***1 ( 774Feedback score is 500 to 999)
Retracted: US $23,000.00

Bid: Jul-18-15 16:02:44 PDT
Retracted: Jul-19-15 16:25:03 PDT
u***u ( 1 ) Retracted: US $29,500.00

Bid: Jul-20-15 05:27:12 PDT
Retracted: Jul-20-15 05:31:19 PDT
u***u ( 1 ) Retracted: US $29,000.00

Bid: Jul-20-15 05:35:19 PDT
Retracted: Jul-20-15 05:37:12 PDT
u***u ( 1 ) Retracted: US $29,000.00

Bid: Jul-20-15 05:42:47 PDT
Retracted: Jul-20-15 05:46:13 PDT

Whomever this is "u***u ( 1 )" is willing to pump it up to $29,500.00.

At this point a lot of people should retract their bids as well. It's all suspicious and that car is very rough. It almost looks like it has suffered water damage.

Seller has a feedback score of 11. All of the feedback is over one year old and 9 of that was for purchases. So, he actually has a seller feedback score that is 100% positive for the past twelve months because it is blank for 12 months. He has 100% positive of nothing.

Posted by: toolguy Jul 20 2015, 01:07 PM

what it looks like is that bidder bid the 29.5 and may have gotten past the reserve price, then decided to retract those high bids and go back to bumping his own lower
bids once he figured out what the reserve range was. .
Then I got an EBay message that the the seller lowered the reserve... still always seems fishy when a bidder with a '1' feedback gets involved and the effect is the prices gets bumped up. .

What I don't get is this car will require a minimum of $30-40 K to get it right and make it worth the $70-80 K that driver Six's go for.
When the auction clearly say's "Needs Floors Replaced" that is cause to be concerned that what it should include is 'Longitudinal's need replacing"

Posted by: iwanta914-6 May 2 2016, 12:45 PM

It's back on eBay!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-6-/162057585399?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25bb6282f7:g:OBMAAOSwLs5XJ4QL&item=162057585399

Posted by: Cairo94507 May 2 2016, 03:51 PM

Yeah, that poor car is very rough. That's a $50-60K restoration assuming it is all there to begin with. That is a $20K car as it sits. Hope someone rescues it and restores it.





Posted by: Kansas 914 May 2 2016, 07:31 PM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ May 2 2016, 03:51 PM) *

Yeah, that poor car is very rough. That's a $50-60K restoration assuming it is all there to begin with. That is a $20K car as it sits. Hope someone rescues it and restores it.

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Those are the numbers I ran too assuming the market doesn't tank.

Posted by: rgalla9146 May 3 2016, 05:21 AM

The failing re-paint in the front trunk and the body color front bumper are not good signs.

Posted by: bretth May 3 2016, 07:01 AM

Didn't it sell at 39k last time? Guess the buyer changed their mind? This one is not too far from me but money I don't have.

Brett

Posted by: iwanta914-6 May 3 2016, 08:08 AM

QUOTE(bretth @ May 3 2016, 08:01 AM) *

Didn't it sell at 39k last time? Guess the buyer changed their mind? This one is not too far from me but money I don't have.

Brett


I think there was some shady shill bidding going on last time.

Posted by: RobW May 3 2016, 08:11 AM

Listed VIN is missing a number....

Posted by: porbmw May 3 2016, 10:56 AM

QUOTE
The seller of this one can't be too thrilled with a high bidder that has one feedback. It looks fishy too with that bidder upping his/her own high bid a couple of times. Reserve is met too.


Then imagine how the vendor of my 6 (yes, it languishes) might have felt. He lived in Pennsylvania, listed his sisters original 6, and his own (completely disassembled Convertible D). My buddy and I had never been to ebay before, our first transactions. We bought his D, and I bought his 6.

NOW for the kicker, he then agreed to rent a UHaul at our expense, pack the D into the UHaul, tow the 6, and drive from Pennsylvania to Vancouver BC...to be flown back (he was retiring, wanted to drive across the US, and we wanted the cars)...was a great guy, wish I had not lost track of him

Posted by: pete000 May 3 2016, 12:05 PM

I looked at this one around 4 years ago. It went for 21K on ebay and was not much better.

It dis run, but the paint was a disaster.




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Posted by: Jonathan Livesay May 3 2016, 12:20 PM

QUOTE(RobW @ May 3 2016, 07:11 AM) *

Listed VIN is missing a number....

It's 9140431380

Posted by: bretth May 3 2016, 12:40 PM

I wonder where the front trunk vin plate went? Don't see it in the pics.

Brett

Posted by: iwanta914-6 May 13 2016, 09:57 PM

Forgot to follow up on this. Sold for the buy it now price of $34,500...

Posted by: iwanta914-6 May 20 2016, 07:40 AM

It's back again? There's definitely something fishy going on here...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-6-/162077228095?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25bc8e3c3f:g:OBMAAOSwLs5XJ4QL&item=162077228095

Posted by: porschetub May 21 2016, 01:36 AM

Cars a rotbox most likely,mouldy damp storage,the door panels and most of the interior are slowly disentergrating, really if this area is doing this what is the body like ,well on the way also......as the overused saying "run Forrest run".
Barn find whats that ? a damp wet leaking building to put tractors animals and such like,besides the seller appears to be a little dodgy confused24.gif

Posted by: Luke M May 21 2016, 06:33 AM

QUOTE(iwanta914-6 @ May 20 2016, 06:40 AM) *

It's back again? There's definitely something fishy going on here...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-914-6-/162077228095?forcerrptr=true&hash=item25bc8e3c3f:g:OBMAAOSwLs5XJ4QL&item=162077228095



I reached out to this person the a few weeks ago. I saw he was located in my state and figured if he's not far that I could go check it out. I never heard anything from the seller. Fishy seller maybe or he doesn't want a real description of the car out there?

Posted by: iwanta914-6 Oct 3 2016, 09:18 AM

And now this "barn find" is up on craigslist for $5,000???????

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/5810517499.html

Posted by: billh1963 Oct 3 2016, 09:34 AM

QUOTE(iwanta914-6 @ Oct 3 2016, 11:18 AM) *

And now this "barn find" is up on craigslist for $5,000???????

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/5810517499.html


Scam for sure

Posted by: bretth Oct 3 2016, 09:41 AM

This car was for sale not very far from me originally. Now says in Florida? I contacted the seller to see what they say. Has to be a scam.

Brett

Posted by: mb911 Oct 3 2016, 10:13 AM

For sure.. What's wrong people get a real job.

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