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Posted by: mepstein Jul 25 2015, 11:28 AM
Parts acquisition
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Posted by: mepstein Jul 25 2015, 11:34 AM
Harness - brain surgery
Big thanks to Kevin today for helping me remove the harness.
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Posted by: mepstein Jul 25 2015, 11:40 AM
My mechanic pulled the engine
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Posted by: mepstein Jul 25 2015, 11:44 AM
Next step is remove the roll cage and get it up on 4 wheels.
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Posted by: Mueller Jul 25 2015, 11:48 AM
Nice....now to stop reading your threads....I don't need anymore distractions! hahaha
Posted by: mepstein Jul 25 2015, 11:53 AM
Nice....now to stop reading your threads....I don't need anymore distractions! hahaha
I received the hubs - thanks!
Almost too pretty for the "budget build"
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Posted by: Chris H. Jul 25 2015, 12:13 PM
Nice work pulling the harness complete. Are you doing the wiring conversion yourself? PM me before you start if so. I also have some SVX manuals and other info (might have already sent it to you).
Posted by: mepstein Jul 25 2015, 12:22 PM
Nice work pulling the harness complete. Are you doing the wiring conversion yourself? PM me before you start if so. I also have some SVX manuals and other info (might have already sent it to you).
I looked at the smallcar booklet and it was completely overwhelming. So one step at a time. I will remove the tape and plastic and then go from there. Maybe I can trade Wire harness conversion for parts or money.
Posted by: Chris H. Jul 25 2015, 06:05 PM
Oh you picked up the smallcar directions? 
wouldn't mind having a gander at that...
They do harnesses for $700 and only if you don't cut any wires beforehand. Sounds outrageous but it takes a LONG time the first time you do it yourself.
Really though, a lot of the wires for the ECU stay where they are. Relatively few are cut as a percentage. You just change the power circuit, starter circuit, etc.
I found some videos that helped me, including this series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnDlYqHDthU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HderShN-dc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayxEfRvhLEE
There are more, so watch all of them that pertain to you and you'll get more confidence. He's doing an Impreza swap, but you want to use the ECU as a standalone as well to control just the engine, not swap out the entire 914 harness for the SVX one.
Also have a lot of supplemental info I can send if you PM me your e-mail address.
Posted by: 914forme Jul 25 2015, 06:06 PM
Lets get to rocking, Im guessing we could have a race going on for completion. 
I think you'll most likely be driving before I will. I still have flares to weld on.
BTW, whats with the cage, them welds look like 
If it is a full SCCA spec cage, I know some one who was looking to pickup a 914 cage. PM me if you want me to get ahold of them.
Posted by: 914forme Jul 25 2015, 06:09 PM
Wow Chris those videos make me glad I'm doing PEFI, lol I don't have a genius wiring dog.
Posted by: Chris H. Jul 25 2015, 06:14 PM
Yeah the first vid is a bit cheesy but it explains the reason he's paring down 80% of the harness, which is what we do. Could have been about 1:30 shorter 
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Posted by: Andyrew Jul 25 2015, 06:16 PM
Awesome!!
Posted by: mepstein Jul 25 2015, 09:11 PM
Lets get to rocking, Im guessing we could have a race going on for completion. I think you'll most likely be driving before I will. I still have flares to weld on.BTW, whats with the cage, them welds look like
If it is a full SCCA spec cage, I know some one who was looking to pickup a 914 cage. PM me if you want me to get ahold of them.Here's the link to the previous build. http://www.914club.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=212085&hl=
I don't want the cage but it and some other ugly mods allowed me to get the car cheap enough that once some nice brake and suspension parts were sold, the tub cost $0.00
Since the engine shelf was removed and the trunk bulkhead was hacked out, this car is perfect for a suby conversion. I don't plan to save the cage. It will be cut out and scrapped. I appreciate any and all helpful advise.
Posted by: mepstein Jul 26 2015, 09:11 AM
Since I have these trailing arms I'm guessing I should use the 911 parking brakes.
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Posted by: mepstein Jul 26 2015, 09:45 AM
T struts and M calipers. Not pretty but functional from a 911 that upgraded to S calipers.
911 front suspension with elephant bushings came with the car.
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Posted by: mepstein Aug 6 2015, 03:19 PM
Using 911 e brake so I bought these from tangerine racing. Seems to be the least hassle solution (just the adapters, using my own trailing arms)
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Posted by: mepstein Aug 27 2015, 07:44 PM
So I need a trans. Can anyone help me find the right trans for sale. Not just type but an actual trans for sale so I can just purchase and drive home. I'm around Newark, DE 19711 so anything within about a 2 hour drive would be great. Needs to be a 5mt that will hold up to the 6 cylinder eg33. Thanks!
*I would really like it complete with clutch, flywheel, trans stubs, ect.
Posted by: 76-914 Aug 28 2015, 08:52 AM
So I need a trans. Can anyone help me find the right trans for sale. Not just type but an actual trans for sale so I can just purchase and drive home. I'm around Newark, DE 19711 so anything within about a 2 hour drive would be great. Needs to be a 5mt that will hold up to the 6 cylinder eg33. Thanks!
*I would really like it complete with clutch, flywheel, trans stubs, ect.
Go back and read Chris' or my build thread. Pretty sure all the clutch/tranny info you'll need is there. The TY75 MT5 comes with 4:11's or 3:9's. The 3:9's will give you better hi way gearing.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 28 2015, 10:09 AM
Mark - How do you keep track of which car you are working on? 
Posted by: mepstein Aug 28 2015, 11:41 AM
Mark - How do you keep track of which car you are working on?
There's more than one? I told my wife I'm building up the red car.
Posted by: mepstein Aug 28 2015, 11:43 AM
So I need a trans. Can anyone help me find the right trans for sale. Not just type but an actual trans for sale so I can just purchase and drive home. I'm around Newark, DE 19711 so anything within about a 2 hour drive would be great. Needs to be a 5mt that will hold up to the 6 cylinder eg33. Thanks!
*I would really like it complete with clutch, flywheel, trans stubs, ect.
Go back and read Chris' or my build thread. Pretty sure all the clutch/tranny info you'll need is there. The TY75 MT5 comes with 4:11's or 3:9's. The 3:9's will give you better hi way gearing.
I don't want to find the right trans, I want you guys to find it for me so I can buy it. Really.
Posted by: mepstein Sep 16 2015, 06:32 AM
Zach found me a trans. Picked it up last night. Thank you Vatican Rabbit.
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Posted by: mepstein Sep 16 2015, 02:54 PM
A little controversy, or not.
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Posted by: strawman Sep 17 2015, 11:32 AM
I'm using the transaxle out of a U.S. 1998 Forester into which I've fitted an OBX helical gear limited slip differential. Haven't had it up to highway speeds, so I can't provide opinions. In fact, I haven't yet had it past second gear...
Good luck with your project!
Posted by: nsyr Sep 17 2015, 01:57 PM
I have had a fwd subaru trans in my now svx powered 914 for about 9 years. It uses a push type clutch but the stock clutch is strong enough for n/a applications. And it does not need to be converted from awd.
Posted by: mepstein Sep 24 2015, 08:45 PM
more stuff
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Posted by: mepstein Jun 25 2016, 07:46 PM
Back on the suby build
I sent out the wire harness to get done. It's almost ready.
Timothy is making some stock looking gauges that will work with the suby sensors.
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Posted by: 76-914 Jun 26 2016, 09:29 AM
I don't know why you'd "farm out" that harness? 
JK. It's about time you got back on the conversion. Those projects can bury themselves if you let them sit too long. 
Kent
Posted by: mepstein Jun 26 2016, 01:33 PM
If I didn't farm it out, it wouldn't get done. The 3.2 conversion is almost on the road so I'd like to start working on suby assembly soon.
Oh, I get it. JK.
Posted by: flmont Jun 27 2016, 08:31 PM
Whom,..May I asked did u send it out too,..smallcar,..??? Thanks Frank
Posted by: mepstein Jun 27 2016, 09:17 PM
Whom,..May I asked did u send it out too,..smallcar,..??? Thanks Frank
A guy on the samba. He's done quite a few and seems very responsive and easy to work with. Asked me questions how I was using the engine, where ecu was going, how I wanted fans to work. Much more than smallcar- fill out the form and send us the money. I think he's also about $150 less than smallcar but that really wasn't how I chose him. There's so much to do on a suby conversion that I wanted as much help and support as I could get.
He mostly worked with the vanagon guys. Here's some of his info - www.facebook.com/jeffrobenolt
www.AutoVenturesLLC.net
Posted by: mepstein Jul 10 2016, 04:30 PM
Here's the harness all done and ready to ship. Jeff labels all the wires and makes it as plug and play as possible. He asked me where and which direction each wire should go and set up the controller for the radiator fans. He told me I'm welcome to call with questions when I get around to putting it all together.
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Posted by: flmont Jul 11 2016, 05:34 PM
Who did your harness,..?? if I may ask
Posted by: flmont Jul 11 2016, 05:35 PM
Sorry,..I just scrolled up,..Jezz.. Thanks
Posted by: flmont Jul 11 2016, 06:20 PM
Sorry,..I just scrolled up,..Jezz.. Thanks
Posted by: mepstein Jan 4 2017, 09:14 PM
I don't want to be known as the guy to where 914 projects go to die. So... Making plans to send this car off to get built by one of the members on this site. He will do engine, trans, mechanicals and get the car running and then I will work on interior and paint. I have to make it a roller and then deliver it around march. At least that's the working plan for now. Details to follow. 
Posted by: 76-914 Jan 5 2017, 10:13 AM
That harness looks nice. Who and where is the car going? Build plans???? Any specific's??
Posted by: mepstein Jan 5 2017, 10:33 AM
That harness looks nice. Who and where is the car going? Build plans???? Any specific's??
The plan is to put it together with all the parts already purchased. I'll let the builder talk about his plans when he's ready.
Posted by: 914forme Jan 5 2017, 05:37 PM
Glad to see this one getting finished up this spring
Posted by: 76-914 Jan 5 2017, 05:46 PM
That harness looks nice. Who and where is the car going? Build plans???? Any specific's??
The plan is to put it together with all the parts already purchased. I'll let the builder talk about his plans when he's ready.
I should have looked at the title.
So let's see; how may have running/completed 3.3 conversions? Chris H. & Bob (aka BIGKAT83), who recently retired, BTW. 
Who am I forgetting?
Posted by: flmont Jan 5 2017, 06:40 PM
Mines not completed yet,..But I do have all major componets required,..just got to assemble everything,..???
Posted by: mepstein Jan 5 2017, 06:57 PM
I still need a radiator and fuel pump but I'll leave the builder to pick the parts he likes. First step is to get it running, then make it pretty with a hardtop and a/c.
Posted by: 914forme Jan 5 2017, 08:27 PM
That harness looks nice. Who and where is the car going? Build plans???? Any specific's??
The plan is to put it together with all the parts already purchased. I'll let the builder talk about his plans when he's ready.
I should have looked at the title.
So let's see; how may have running/completed 3.3 conversions? Chris H. & Bob (aka BIGKAT83), who recently retired, BTW. Who am I forgetting? 
Posted by: 914forme Jan 5 2017, 08:29 PM
I still need a radiator and fuel pump but I'll leave the builder to pick the parts he likes. First step is to get it running, then make it pretty with a hardtop and a/c.
That stuff is easy, the hardtop and a/C
Posted by: 76-914 Jan 5 2017, 09:09 PM
That harness looks nice. Who and where is the car going? Build plans???? Any specific's??
The plan is to put it together with all the parts already purchased. I'll let the builder talk about his plans when he's ready.
I should have looked at the title.
So let's see; how may have running/completed 3.3 conversions? Chris H. & Bob (aka BIGKAT83), who recently retired, BTW. Who am I forgetting? I didn't know you had gotten yours running. Sorry Stephen.
Posted by: 76-914 Jan 5 2017, 09:11 PM
I still need a radiator and fuel pump but I'll leave the builder to pick the parts he likes. First step is to get it running, then make it pretty with a hardtop and a/c.
Ahaa. Scotty
Posted by: 914forme Jan 5 2017, 10:18 PM
That harness looks nice. Who and where is the car going? Build plans???? Any specific's??
The plan is to put it together with all the parts already purchased. I'll let the builder talk about his plans when he's ready.
I should have looked at the title.
So let's see; how may have running/completed 3.3 conversions? Chris H. & Bob (aka BIGKAT83), who recently retired, BTW. Who am I forgetting? I didn't know you had gotten yours running. Sorry Stephen.
fired in car the old fashioned way, fogging the engine with fuel. So it does not really count just yet.,
Posted by: 76-914 Jan 6 2017, 08:54 AM
That harness looks nice. Who and where is the car going? Build plans???? Any specific's??
The plan is to put it together with all the parts already purchased. I'll let the builder talk about his plans when he's ready.
I should have looked at the title.
So let's see; how may have running/completed 3.3 conversions? Chris H. & Bob (aka BIGKAT83), who recently retired, BTW. Who am I forgetting? I didn't know you had gotten yours running. Sorry Stephen.
fired in car the old fashioned way, fogging the engine with fuel. So it does not really count just yet.,
A wink is as good as a nod.
Posted by: mgp4591 Jan 6 2017, 02:05 PM
That harness looks nice. Who and where is the car going? Build plans???? Any specific's??
The plan is to put it together with all the parts already purchased. I'll let the builder talk about his plans when he's ready.
I should have looked at the title.
So let's see; how may have running/completed 3.3 conversions? Chris H. & Bob (aka BIGKAT83), who recently retired, BTW. Who am I forgetting? I do the work as I can - I thought it was more important to learn how to walk again...
The doc says I'm good for skiing this year though so that's big news. Just gotta get the muscles talked into it.
Posted by: jmill Jan 6 2017, 04:09 PM
Then make it pretty with a hardtop and a/c.
Steel hardtop? If so
I love the look and the blue one with the 944 sunroof was one of my favorites.
Posted by: 914forme Jan 6 2017, 05:46 PM
Then make it pretty with a hardtop and a/c.
Steel hardtop? If so
I love the look and the blue one with the 944 sunroof was one of my favorites.
This is the exact reason why I am duplicating the same roof in my build. The 944 sunroof panel is huge. And I never take the roof off anyway, but the venting would be great.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 31 2017, 03:52 PM
I need to put this on wheels to get to the builder so I scrounged around the house for parts and put together a front suspension. The rear is in a bin - somewhere.
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Posted by: Andyrew Jan 31 2017, 04:37 PM
Then make it pretty with a hardtop and a/c.
Steel hardtop? If so
I love the look and the blue one with the 944 sunroof was one of my favorites.
This is the exact reason why I am duplicating the same roof in my build. The 944 sunroof panel is huge. And I never take the roof off anyway, but the venting would be great.If I did mine again I am sure I would have gone hardtop, Love the look and I rarely ever have the top off in the summer (sun is my enemy).
Posted by: mepstein Feb 2 2017, 04:03 PM
I got tired of looking at the roll cage.
Step 1 - buy really good blades
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Posted by: mepstein Feb 2 2017, 04:04 PM
Step 2
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Posted by: 914forme Feb 2 2017, 07:11 PM
Mark you also sending brake parts, the builder likes to test his work 
Posted by: mepstein Feb 2 2017, 07:27 PM
Mark you also sending brake parts, the builder likes to test his work
I sold you the front calipers that were supposed to be for this car. My bad. So if you change your mind, sell them back to me please. The rears are getting 911 m calipers with 911 ebrake.
Posted by: 914forme Feb 2 2017, 09:41 PM
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I don't think I bought your calipers
Posted by: mepstein Feb 2 2017, 10:00 PM
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I don't think I bought your calipers
Right after Hershey. Check your usps priority boxes. I only want them back if your plans have changed. Or if I'm just making all this up
it could happen 
Posted by: 914forme Feb 3 2017, 03:26 PM
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I don't think I bought your calipers
Right after Hershey. Check your usps priority boxes. I only want them back if your plans have changed. Or if I'm just making all this up
it could happen Oh yeah I forgot about them, they went onto a different project.
Posted by: Amenson Feb 3 2017, 03:40 PM
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I don't think I bought your calipers
Right after Hershey. Check your usps priority boxes. I only want them back if your plans have changed. Or if I'm just making all this up
it could happen Oh yeah I forgot about them, they went onto a different project.
Are those the calipers I have from you Stephen?
If so, the fronts are unused.
Posted by: 914forme Feb 3 2017, 04:27 PM
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I don't think I bought your calipers
Right after Hershey. Check your usps priority boxes. I only want them back if your plans have changed. Or if I'm just making all this up
it could happen Oh yeah I forgot about them, they went onto a different project.
Are those the calipers I have from you Stephen?
If so, the fronts are unused.
Nope, He could use them if he used a 3.5" strut. Ones I got from Mark where 3" So yeah Mark, slap some 3.5" struts on and Scott's got you covered.
Posted by: mepstein Feb 3 2017, 09:51 PM
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I don't think I bought your calipers
Right after Hershey. Check your usps priority boxes. I only want them back if your plans have changed. Or if I'm just making all this up
it could happen Oh yeah I forgot about them, they went onto a different project.
Are those the calipers I have from you Stephen?
If so, the fronts are unused.
Nope, He could use them if he used a 3.5" strut. Ones I got from Mark where 3" So yeah Mark, slap some 3.5" struts on and Scott's got you covered.
No problem. I'll find some more M calipers. I'm already donating some 3.5" struts to a good cause.
Posted by: mepstein Mar 20 2017, 03:13 PM
I ground down the stumps from the roll cage. Doesn't look like much but it took a while. Especially in the engine compartment. Unfortunately, the welded in pads are going to stay. It's just too much work to remove them. Maybe one day.
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Posted by: 76-914 Mar 20 2017, 03:18 PM
Uh, I hate to ask but is that a rust sensor screwed into the long?
Posted by: Andyrew Mar 20 2017, 03:41 PM
Looks like a seat belt bolt
Posted by: mepstein Mar 20 2017, 03:41 PM
Just the seat belt bolt and a wire.
Posted by: Amenson Jan 9 2019, 09:40 PM
Had an interesting discussion going so I moved it to the proper place...
Scott the flip is not hard, some of the stuff just needs to moved to make it happen, like we talked about. Once you see the EG you will know. The IRIS system is what clutters up the flip.
I don't think You're going to have an issue with it. It is very easy if Mark is not going to have AC in the car, becomes harder if Mark is.
Workshop is looking great, let me know if there is anything you need from me to help these along.
Yeah I know of 5 little round items you need all ready I don’t want to turn this into a thread for my car but...I do want a/c & heat. I was hoping the bulkhead mount might make things a bit easier with positioning but that might not be the case. My plan is not to micromanage the build but to turn it over to Scott A and let him do his thing. The only challenge I see with the build is Scott likes to build to a high standard for both looks and functionality and I’m looking for a good running conversion but not a showcase car. I’m sure it will work out. The nice thing is with my car is there is no fresh paint to worry about.
Fresh paint, and yes this is about PorSTI, we just started talking about EG33 intake flips. I am a huge proponent that the bulkhead mounts for the EG, if anything it allows for even better positioning of the engine giving the clearance needed for the flip.Mark I am sure a build thread will be started to discuss your car, once the process starts.
Oh, don't worry your car will be built to a high standard for looks and functionality...efficiently.
Getting the engine sitting properly in the available space is key. Ditching the cradle will help a lot and I think that we should consider a shortened oil pan. Lowering the engine should open up enough space to flip the manifold so that we can shift the engine back and get the axles straight (and use an electric motor AC compressor maybe) or leave it as is keep AC either way keeping the trunk uncut. It would be a shame to hack it up after spending the time to install the the donor trunk section.
PorSTi has a shortened pan from Outfront but I am not sure if they do one for the EG. If not small car has a nice cast aluminum EG pan.
Tom wants heat on Grey also so I added connections to the radiator lines for it. I have concept for a heater but Grey doesn't have all of the air diverters and stuff installed for mock-up and quite frankly I need to end scope creep on the project so so that Tom can have it back in time to have the opportunity to do final assembly before spring. We can develop it on your car.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 9 2019, 09:51 PM
Had an interesting discussion going so I moved it to the proper place...
Scott the flip is not hard, some of the stuff just needs to moved to make it happen, like we talked about. Once you see the EG you will know. The IRIS system is what clutters up the flip.
I don't think You're going to have an issue with it. It is very easy if Mark is not going to have AC in the car, becomes harder if Mark is.
Workshop is looking great, let me know if there is anything you need from me to help these along.
Yeah I know of 5 little round items you need all ready I don’t want to turn this into a thread for my car but...I do want a/c & heat. I was hoping the bulkhead mount might make things a bit easier with positioning but that might not be the case. My plan is not to micromanage the build but to turn it over to Scott A and let him do his thing. The only challenge I see with the build is Scott likes to build to a high standard for both looks and functionality and I’m looking for a good running conversion but not a showcase car. I’m sure it will work out. The nice thing is with my car is there is no fresh paint to worry about.
Fresh paint, and yes this is about PorSTI, we just started talking about EG33 intake flips. I am a huge proponent that the bulkhead mounts for the EG, if anything it allows for even better positioning of the engine giving the clearance needed for the flip.Mark I am sure a build thread will be started to discuss your car, once the process starts.
Oh, don't worry your car will be built to a high standard for looks and functionality...efficiently.
Getting the engine sitting properly in the available space is key. Ditching the cradle will help a lot and I think that we should consider a shortened oil pan. Lowering the engine should open up enough space to flip the manifold so that we can shift the engine back and get the axles straight (and use an electric motor AC compressor maybe) or leave it as is keep AC either way keeping the trunk uncut. It would be a shame to hack it up after spending the time to install the the donor trunk section.
PorSTi has a shortened pan from Outfront but I am not sure if they do one for the EG. If not small car has a nice cast aluminum EG pan.
Tom wants heat on Grey also so I added connections to the radiator lines for it. I have concept for a heater but Grey doesn't have all of the air diverters and stuff installed for mock-up and quite frankly I need to end scope creep on the project so so that Tom can have it back in time to have the opportunity to do final assembly before spring. We can develop it on your car.
Like I said, I’m not going to micromanage the build. I’ll just sit back, watch and be surprised.
Posted by: jimkelly Jan 10 2019, 09:20 PM
mark, looks like me and you, or you and i, may have some jack stands available for sale in the near future 
Posted by: mepstein Jan 10 2019, 10:02 PM
mark, looks like me and you, or you and i, may have some jack stands available for sale in the near future
What will I use for my other 5 project cars
Right now the chassis is sitting on 2-6x6's so turning into a roller is a springtime project - way too cold in the workshop right now. So i'll just continue getting parts together.
Posted by: KELTY360 Jan 11 2019, 12:00 AM
Unfortunately, the EG33 in my Syncro Westy took a dump and I had a conversion done to a 2.5. I've got a polished intake, nearly new crank pulley, reversed coolant manifold and a small car oil pan for sale; plus other misc parts. Haven't even thought about prices but very fair. PM if you're interested.
Posted by: Amenson Jan 11 2019, 04:48 PM
Unfortunately, the EG33 in my Syncro Westy took a dump and I had a conversion done to a 2.5. I've got a polished intake, nearly new crank pulley, reversed coolant manifold and a small car oil pan for sale; plus other misc parts. Haven't even thought about prices but very fair. PM if you're interested.
Is the small car oil pan the short version? How far down from the bottom of the block does the oil pan sit?
Posted by: 914forme Jan 19 2019, 01:33 PM
Scott I have one in the shop if you want me to measure it.
I hope it is not on the engine the is on the mockup stand
Posted by: 914forme Jan 19 2019, 11:02 PM
While in the shop I dug out my Smaller oil pan, had not even opened the box. Pan is interesting to say the least, cast aluminum, looks decent.
But what I found inside made none too happy.
What is that crap at the bottom of the pan? And who the hell fixes a mold with duct tap, and then uses it to create the sand cast?
Well I found the crap at the bottom of the pan, I had small car modify the pickup tube. Now that I know what they did, I might have to redo this one. 
And well that explains the crap in the pan. 
It is inside the pickup screen also. 
Hard to see but that crap is in there.
So Scott I would recommend you modify the pickup your self if your using this pan. I will keep this one out of the car and most likely use the one from my my running engine to build another one.
And to answer the question.
4 1/8" from flange to table. You can figure out clearances from there. Being cast AL, I might drop an Aluminum Skid plate under it.Just to make sure I don't lose it some how. VW has cast AL pans on some of the Jettas, and well the wife cracked one hitting a man hole cover, right place right time sort of thing.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 20 2019, 08:44 AM
I didn't think a shallow oil pan was needed on a svx build.
Stephen - Did they use drywall paste to "glue" it together?
I'll have to find the engine and trans at the shop.
God knows where the guys hid a bunch of Suby parts in a Porsche shop.
You guys are getting me excited again about this car.
Posted by: tazz9924 Jan 20 2019, 08:49 AM
While in the shop I dug out my Smaller oil pan, had not even opened the box. Pan is interesting to say the least, cast aluminum, looks decent.
But what I found inside made none too happy.
What is that crap at the bottom of the pan? And who the hell fixes a mold with duct tap, and then uses it to create the sand cast?
Well I found the crap at the bottom of the pan, I had small car modify the pickup tube. Now that I know what they did, I might have to redo this one.
And well that explains the crap in the pan.
It is inside the pickup screen also.
Hard to see but that crap is in there.
So Scott I would recommend you modify the pickup your self if your using this pan. I will keep this one out of the car and most likely use the one from my my running engine to build another one.
And to answer the question.
4 1/8" from flange to table. You can figure out clearances from there. Being cast AL, I might drop an Aluminum Skid plate under it.Just to make sure I don't lose it some how. VW has cast AL pans on some of the Jettas, and well the wife cracked one hitting a man hole cover, right place right time sort of thing.
Idk why the pickup tube was done like that. Ive met the welder they get to modify all of those pickups (he does hundreds at a time) and all of them are just tig welded. Ive never seen one he’s made, including the one i got personally, thats looked like that
you must’ve really gotten the oddest of ones out. I also didnt junk in my pan when i got it, though I don’t remember the duct tape in the casting or not. Posted by: mepstein Jan 20 2019, 08:51 AM
Sold the coldwater cradle a while ago.
Here's the firewall mount that I picked up from JRust.
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Posted by: Amenson Jan 20 2019, 02:22 PM
Stephen,
Thanks for the measurements and pictures...that pickup modification
The depth is the same as my Outfront modified pan on the Porsti.
I didn't think a shallow oil pan was needed on a svx build.
Stephen - Did they use drywall paste to "glue" it together?
I'll have to find the engine and trans at the shop.
God knows where the guys hid a bunch of Suby parts in a Porsche shop.
You guys are getting me excited again about this car.
It is not needed, plenty of guys have made the stock pan work. Lowering the engine a few inches really opens up space up top where everything is cramped. Even on the EJ engine it blows me away how much better the engine sits in Porsti compared to Grey, more like the stock engine. Also, I would have had to cut the trunk to make the starter fit in Porsti if the engine were not lowered.
We should use a lowered pan on your EG.
Posted by: 914forme Jan 20 2019, 02:38 PM
100%
Mine is dropped and saves all the trunk cutting. I even filled my trunk where I cut it out, so full back trunk is a plus.
Scott we can use this pickup for the placement / design, and you can TIG up one that actually looks and functions well.
I have contacted @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=5344 to see if I can work out a deal on the parts, I need a few items off of an EG. Fingers crossed he has them. But I will gladly share with Mark, he has dug me out of a few odd parts needs. Mark if you worked out a deal, let me know I'll give you my list.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 20 2019, 02:50 PM
100%Mine is dropped and saves all the trunk cutting. I even filled my trunk where I cut it out, so full back trunk is a plus.
Scott we can use this pickup for the placement / design, and you can TIG up one that actually looks and functions well.
I have contacted @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=5344 to see if I can work out a deal on the parts, I need a few items off of an EG. Fingers crossed he has them. But I will gladly share with Mark, he has dug me out of a few odd parts needs.
Mark if you worked out a deal, let me know I'll give you my list. Stephen - Thank you. I always appreciate your help. I'm going to let Scott decide what I need or don't need. I'm still gathering up some brake and suspension parts but I'm going to try to stay hands off when it comes to the engine and trans details since he has a vision on how this should all go together and I don't. And that's ok, I'm a pretty good parts sourcer but I know my limits.
Posted by: KELTY360 Jan 20 2019, 03:55 PM
Mark, Stephan and Scott - I haven't gone MIA, it's just complicated since I moved and the parts are 100 miles away and I don't know what's still intact. I plan on seeing the engine on Wednesday when I'm in seatle and I'll report after that.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 20 2019, 04:10 PM
Mark, Stephan and Scott - I haven't gone MIA, it's just complicated since I moved and the parts are 100 miles away and I don't know what's still intact. I plan on seeing the engine on Wednesday when I'm in seatle and I'll report after that.
Posted by: 914forme Jan 20 2019, 06:23 PM
Mark, Stephan and Scott - I haven't gone MIA, it's just complicated since I moved and the parts are 100 miles away and I don't know what's still intact. I plan on seeing the engine on Wednesday when I'm in seatle and I'll report after that.
Sounds great
Posted by: JRust Jan 20 2019, 06:52 PM
Sold the coldwater cradle a while ago.
Here's the firewall mount that I picked up from JRust.
Yeah I have regretted selling that for the last 4 months
. LOL!
Posted by: mepstein Jan 20 2019, 07:48 PM
Sold the coldwater cradle a while ago.
Here's the firewall mount that I picked up from JRust.
Yeah I have regretted selling that for the last 4 months
. LOL!Ben is working on a version.
As Porsche engines continue to go up in price, I think we will see more suby conversations
Can’t tell you how how many thing I’ve sold the day before I need them.
Posted by: mepstein Sep 7 2019, 12:33 PM
Only took 4 years to get suspension on the car.
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Posted by: 76-914 Sep 7 2019, 01:59 PM
Don't rush it!
Posted by: 914forme Sep 7 2019, 07:42 PM
Hoping that means what I think it means
Always nice to see them back on four wheels.
Posted by: mepstein Sep 7 2019, 08:16 PM
Hoping that means what I think it means Always nice to see them back on four wheels.
Yes, trying to set up a drive to Scott asap, deliver your engine and then another engine delivery near Pittsburgh.
Putting parts on the car goes pretty quick but getting the right hardware together has taken some time.
I appreciate your patience.
Posted by: mepstein Sep 9 2019, 10:36 AM
I purchased as a bare chassis so I’m happy to finally see it on four wheels.
Most of the suspension has been refreshed but there’s still a lot of assembly to go.
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Posted by: mepstein Feb 8 2020, 07:50 PM
Loaded up and on it’s way to Scott Amerson to get it running.
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Posted by: 914forme Feb 8 2020, 08:30 PM
Can not wait too see this unfold. ![popcorn[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
Looking forward to it, and another item that is in that truck bed.
Posted by: Amenson Feb 8 2020, 09:53 PM
That is a nice trailer...does it stay with the project?!
Posted by: 76-914 Feb 8 2020, 10:12 PM
So you're going Turbo?
Posted by: Tdskip Feb 8 2020, 11:57 PM
Oh man, I had no idea this was underway. Nice moment to be able to roll her.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 9 2020, 02:46 PM
Congratulations Mark 
. That is a major milestone. Looking forward to seeing a video clip of it running. Cheers, Michael
Posted by: 76-914 Feb 9 2020, 08:50 PM
Once you go Subaru you never go back! 
Posted by: Amenson Feb 9 2020, 09:23 PM
The stars aligned and the EG has landed. Unfortunately there was a bit of a crash landing and the engine was banged up a bit but nothing terminal.
Cam gear is toast but the cams turn fine. Cam sensor mount will need to be welded back on.
While checking the carnage I noticed the center cover was a bit deranged. Somehow the accessory belt and idler were rubbing.
Pulled the AC and power steering so that I could get a better look at what is going on under the manifold...a whole lot of sludge. The engine could probably use a full reseal to take care of the various leaks.
Tucked away. Won't be a ton of progress in the near future, just have to figure out what all is here and make a plan, and a whole lot of cleaning when the weather permits.
In the meantime I'll keep plugging away on the porsti. I need to make a long overdue update that thread with the engine build and some other fun stuff.
Posted by: mepstein Feb 9 2020, 09:29 PM
Yea, that fall was a small blemish on a fun trip. Glad it wasn't Stephen's engine. Scott's suby engine looks great.
Long day, I'm going to bed.
Posted by: 914forme Feb 10 2020, 08:44 PM
Yes, luckily nobody got in the way of the engine and gravity. It was a sad end to a good morning.
Good to see everyone.
Posted by: Chi-town Feb 10 2020, 09:37 PM
Oh well looks like scrap, time to swap for the better EZ30D
Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 11 2020, 11:13 AM
Sounds like the incident was a blessing in disguise. A reseal? How deep do you go and what are the 'while you're in there's'?
Posted by: mepstein Feb 11 2020, 11:39 AM
Sounds like the incident was a blessing in disguise. A reseal? How deep do you go and what are the 'while you're in there's'?
All Scott’s decision now.
I’m sure Dylan is right about there being better engines but this was my budget build, I already have the engine and a wire harness built for it. So we’ll just see where Scott takes this for now.
Posted by: Amenson Feb 11 2020, 01:23 PM
Sounds like the incident was a blessing in disguise. A reseal? How deep do you go and what are the 'while you're in there's'?
All Scott’s decision now.
I’m sure Dylan is right about there being better engines but this was my budget build, I already have the engine and a wire harness built for it. So we’ll just see where Scott takes this for now.
Scott's decision and budget build...
The while I am in there on the porsti engine turned in to new block, crank, rods, pistons, 11mm oil pump, springs, retainers, Kevlar timing belt, cast impeller water pump and most of the fasteners. Initial plan was forged pistons, bearings and maybe rods.
With the EG it seems silly not to take care of the oil and other leaks and do timing belt, idlers and water pump while the engine is accessible. Rear main seal would probably be a good idea also.
Posted by: mepstein Feb 11 2020, 02:06 PM
Sounds like the incident was a blessing in disguise. A reseal? How deep do you go and what are the 'while you're in there's'?
All Scott’s decision now.
I’m sure Dylan is right about there being better engines but this was my budget build, I already have the engine and a wire harness built for it. So we’ll just see where Scott takes this for now.
Scott's decision and budget build...
The while I am in there on the porsti engine turned in to new block, crank, rods, pistons, 11mm oil pump, springs, retainers, Kevlar timing belt, cast impeller water pump and most of the fasteners. Initial plan was forged pistons, bearings and maybe rods.
With the EG it seems silly not to take care of the oil and other leaks and do timing belt, idlers and water pump while the engine is accessible. Rear main seal would probably be a good idea also.
You're the boss.
Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 11 2020, 02:57 PM
Nope. Boss writes the checks.
Posted by: Amenson Feb 11 2020, 03:08 PM
Nope. Boss writes the checks.
Posted by: mepstein Feb 11 2020, 03:14 PM
Nope. Boss writes the checks.
OK, then talk to my wife
But seriously, I told you I was sure we'd have project creep once you got a look at things. Just jot it down in a text or email so I have a ballpark and we'll keep moving forward. Thanks!
Posted by: Chris H. Feb 11 2020, 07:21 PM
Yeah you really have to do the re-seal kit on that engine. You also want to change the oil separator cover under the flywheel from the plastic one to a metal one (e-bay has them). FYI the oil pan does not have a gasket, you just use sealant like Permatex grey. Usually don't need to do head gaskets, which makes it a lot easier.
Posted by: 914forme Feb 11 2020, 07:29 PM
And there is a magical box that has a bunch of that stuff in it. It is in one of the two sets of part drop offs that I did.
Water pump, that is also in a box that I dropped off. It just came from Australia, so water flows clockwise. 
Posted by: mepstein Feb 11 2020, 09:14 PM
And there is a magical box that has a bunch of that stuff in it. It is in one of the two sets of part drop offs that I did.Water pump, that is also in a box that I dropped off. It just came from Australia, so water flows clockwise.
Thank you Stephen
Posted by: Amenson Jul 28 2020, 02:37 PM
This project has had enough time to settle into the garage, let's get to work.
First step was to get a hitch on the C10 that was on back order forever due to the covid so that I could bring the engine to the power wash booth.
It was a bit dirty.
Best tow beast ever.
Clean, or at least clean enough to go near without getting filthy. 
No idea how many miles were on the car since the last timing belt change but the idlers were all approaching the end of their service life. Most subies are 100k then replace belt, idlers, tensioner and water pump. This is definitely in order for the EG. All of the timing belt plastic was cracked from the drop or from the middle on over deteriorated from use. Fortunately Stephen had all but the center piece in the boxes of goodies. He also had all of the gaskets/seals for the reseal and a metal cover for the rear.
Cheers
Scott
Posted by: 914forme Aug 25 2020, 12:16 PM
Wow how did I miss this, also a bit bummed you actually ordered a hitch.
More than welcome on the seals and items to get it right.
BTW, do the valve covers outside of the car. I did them in the SVX learned a few new words, and made a sacrificial offering to the Subaru goods with my blood.
This tread needs and update.
Posted by: Amenson Feb 14 2021, 05:43 PM
Probably about time to update the thread.
Managed to find a rear trunk section in a local junk yard.
Brought along my neighbor gearhead in training along with to help with the extraction.
It is amazing how many layers come together in this part of the car.
Sort of kinda have it down to just what I need. Just another 30 spot welds to cut. Being very cautious to make sure that I don't cut out anything that is needed.
Also working on the suspension. Pulled the rear hubs to replace the bearings and install the 911 park brake.
Installed the front sway bar.
Assembling the park brake and calipers.
Shiny!
Couldn't resist test fitting the new oil pan.
Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2021, 05:56 PM
Posted by: mepstein Feb 14 2021, 06:11 PM
Wow, I'm getting excited about this car again. Thank you!
I never showed a pic of the rear trunk but I'm happy that Scott is making it oem again. The metal bar connecting the shock towers was a terrible hack.
Posted by: CptTripps Mar 4 2021, 08:08 AM
Scott does the best work, and at some point will be crowned the "Finisher of stalled projects" by those of us that have benefitted from his extremely talented hands.
Posted by: Amenson Mar 12 2021, 11:32 AM
Scott does the best work, and at some point will be crowned the "Finisher of stalled projects" by those of us that have benefitted from his extremely talented hands.
There are some things that I do that are getting pretty good but best is a bit of a stretch...there are a few guys here that make some of my work look like I am just starting to learn.
Posted by: Amenson Mar 12 2021, 11:42 AM
The trunk replacment is pretty much free of extra sections. Still lots of grinding to clean up the weld areas and will need to trim the floor to size once in place.
This is what it will be replacing.
I needed a couple of nice days to work on the trailing arms so that I cold grind/paint outside. Last weekend was an amazing couple of days of Ohio spring.
Do have a bit of a snag with the calipers. The spacers on the outside of the bearing took care of the long hub issue but the calipers do not fit. Looks like there should be a spacer between the caliper and the mounting bracket.
Am I missing something obvious?
Posted by: Retroracer Mar 12 2021, 12:51 PM
I don't think you've missed anything. My set up is almost identical to yours; I ended up needing a small spacer between caliper and mount to center the caliper too. I have Carrera rear calipers / rotor / drums.
If I recall, when I was putting together mine (and memory is dim here, but): the front of the mounting lugs rides very close to the back of the rotor. It did not rub/interfere, but looked super close. Some restrained adjustment (grinder) was deemed necessary. Might want to assess that clearance on yours.
Nice job on the welding BTW,
- Tony
Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 12 2021, 01:30 PM
backing plate bracket, not present= washer
Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 12 2021, 02:06 PM
Nice catch.
Posted by: mepstein Mar 12 2021, 02:37 PM
I hate what the prior owner did to that trunk. Thank you Scott.
Posted by: Retroracer Mar 12 2021, 05:27 PM
backing plate bracket, not present= washer
The 911 backing plate is wafer thin at this point, so does not account for all of the gap even when fitted. I can check, but think 3mm or so is needed to center it from the 914 mounts (I ditched the dust shield too)... did I try the 914 dust shield? Don't recall...
- Tony
Posted by: 2mAn Mar 12 2021, 06:28 PM
Scott does the best work, and at some point will be crowned the "Finisher of stalled projects" by those of us that have benefitted from his extremely talented hands.
That is a wonderful title , as someone who has both had to abandon projects and picked up abandoned projects it’s so great to finish them and so heartbreaking to throw in the towel...
Can’t wait to see this done
Posted by: Literati914 Mar 12 2021, 07:08 PM
Wow, this is coming along nicely.. way to go Scott.
What Calipers are you using on the back again?
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Posted by: mepstein Mar 12 2021, 07:13 PM
Wow, this is coming along nicely.. way to go Scott.
What Calipers are you using on the back again?
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M calipers f & r. Rebuilt by PMB. Tangerine racing 911 e brake kit.
Posted by: 914forme Mar 12 2021, 08:32 PM
Txt sent I have spacer material for the rear calipers.
Posted by: Amenson Mar 16 2021, 08:43 AM
I don't think you've missed anything. My set up is almost identical to yours; I ended up needing a small spacer between caliper and mount to center the caliper too. I have Carrera rear calipers / rotor / drums.
If I recall, when I was putting together mine (and memory is dim here, but): the front of the mounting lugs rides very close to the back of the rotor. It did not rub/interfere, but looked super close. Some restrained adjustment (grinder) was deemed necessary. Might want to assess that clearance on yours.
Nice job on the welding BTW,
- Tony
Pretty welds are the easy part...although there is a reason that I didn't take a macro shot of these welds. I didn't quite get pretty colors due to some crud suck in the small corrosion pits in the trailing arms.
backing plate bracket, not present= washer
Thanks for the confirmation that spacers are required. I moved porsti onto the 4 post lift this weekend so that I can drive the C10 and was able to confirm that I used spacers on the PorSti rear calipers too.
Scott does the best work, and at some point will be crowned the "Finisher of stalled projects" by those of us that have benefitted from his extremely talented hands.
That is a wonderful title , as someone who has both had to abandon projects and picked up abandoned projects it’s so great to finish them and so heartbreaking to throw in the towel...
Can’t wait to see this done
Don't tell my BMW 2002 that I am a protect finisher...haven't touched it in nearly 20 years!
Posted by: Amenson Nov 6 2021, 08:08 PM
About time for an update....'eh.
Had a spell of very little time in the shop. Then when I did get back it was pre power tour time and Mark was nice enough to let me work on Porsti a bit. That turned out to be a debacle, I'll update that build thread later. Been plugging away on Marks car lately but nothing super photogenic. Cleaning up the engine quite a bit more and deleting things that are not needed between plotting how to install the rear trunk section. I think that because I have so much time into the new section and getting another will be basically impossible I am having a hard time committing to cutting it down to fit the hole. Lot of time wasted measuring things over and over again...I guess if it goes well it won't be wasted but feels very unproductive.
One cool thing that is worth sharing is the header from Small car. With the shorter oil pan the stock exhaust manifolds were way too low.
We have all of the seals for the engine but still need a timing belt kit. I usually get the Gates kits for our daily drivers because they seem to work fine and are much cheaper than Subaru parts but these don't seem to be available any more for the EG33. Anyone have a place where they have purchased one lately or have one left over from a project?
Pretty much the only thing in stock is this GMB kit on ebay. 
Rock Auto carries the same kit but it has been out of stock for ever. Anyone use GMB stuff before?
Cheers,
Scott
Posted by: Chris H. Nov 8 2021, 09:17 AM
Should be fine. It's a non-interference engine.
Posted by: mepstein Nov 8 2021, 11:45 AM
That was a great suggestion to get the small car headers. Thanks
I have no choice but to drive over 4 speed bumps to where we live on campus.
I know you have high standards for your work but whatever you do for the trunk will be an improvement. The prior owner put a lot of time and effort into making a mess of that section.
Posted by: partwerks Aug 5 2022, 05:57 PM
So I need a trans. Can anyone help me find the right trans for sale. Not just type but an actual trans for sale so I can just purchase and drive home. I'm around Newark, DE 19711 so anything within about a 2 hour drive would be great. Needs to be a 5mt that will hold up to the 6 cylinder eg33. Thanks!
*I would really like it complete with clutch, flywheel, trans stubs, ect.
Go back and read Chris' or my build thread. Pretty sure all the clutch/tranny info you'll need is there. The TY75 MT5 comes with 4:11's or 3:9's. The 3:9's will give you better hi way gearing.
Is TY75 MT5, one or two different transmissions, or all one part number for just the one?
Does the 3:9 run slower in road gear?
Posted by: mepstein Aug 5 2022, 06:31 PM
I got one from a bug eye Impreza. Have no idea what the ratio is.
Posted by: 76-914 Aug 5 2022, 06:33 PM
So I need a trans. Can anyone help me find the right trans for sale. Not just type but an actual trans for sale so I can just purchase and drive home. I'm around Newark, DE 19711 so anything within about a 2 hour drive would be great. Needs to be a 5mt that will hold up to the 6 cylinder eg33. Thanks!
*I would really like it complete with clutch, flywheel, trans stubs, ect.
Go back and read Chris' or my build thread. Pretty sure all the clutch/tranny info you'll need is there. The TY75 MT5 comes with 4:11's or 3:9's. The 3:9's will give you better hi way gearing.
Is TY75 MT5, one or two different transmissions, or all one part number for just the one?
Does the 3:9 run slower in road gear?
One. TY75 is the # assigned to all 5 speeds. Here is all you would want to know re: the trans........... IIRC, 2006 & 2007 have 3.6 final drive https://www.rallispec.com/downloads/Transmission%20ID%20Chart_Public.pdf
Posted by: partwerks Sep 17 2022, 08:29 PM
Probably about time to update the thread.
Managed to find a rear trunk section in a local junk yard.
Brought along my neighbor gearhead in training along with to help with the extraction.
It is amazing how many layers come together in this part of the car.
Sort of kinda have it down to just what I need. Just another 30 spot welds to cut. Being very cautious to make sure that I don't cut out anything that is needed.
Also working on the suspension. Pulled the rear hubs to replace the bearings and install the 911 park brake.
Installed the front sway bar.
Assembling the park brake and calipers.
Shiny!
Couldn't resist test fitting the new oil pan.
That's the oil pan on the EZ30D?
Posted by: 76-914 Sep 17 2022, 08:44 PM
Probably about time to update the thread.
Managed to find a rear trunk section in a local junk yard.
Brought along my neighbor gearhead in training along with to help with the extraction.
It is amazing how many layers come together in this part of the car.
Sort of kinda have it down to just what I need. Just another 30 spot welds to cut. Being very cautious to make sure that I don't cut out anything that is needed.
Also working on the suspension. Pulled the rear hubs to replace the bearings and install the 911 park brake.
Installed the front sway bar.
Assembling the park brake and calipers.
Shiny!
Couldn't resist test fitting the new oil pan.
That's the oil pan on the EZ30D?
The thread title says it all. But you're new to Subaru so...........SVX used a 3.3L 6 called the EG33. Very desirably engine but getting more rare as are the parts for them.
Posted by: mepstein Jul 23 2023, 04:33 PM
I plan to put the car up for sale this week.
I just brought the chassis, engine, trans and all the parts back from Scott’s house. I’ll catalog what is there, take pics and then post a price.
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Posted by: Aerostatwv Jul 23 2023, 05:04 PM
I saw your car in Scott's garage. Still in shock...
Posted by: mepstein Jul 23 2023, 06:02 PM
I saw your car in Scott's garage. Still in shock...
Yes. I was just there yesterday. Very sad for his family.
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