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Posted by: Type 4 Mar 2 2005, 10:48 AM

I am looking at on bring a totally programable FI system on to the market.
The system is a Type 4 specific setup that is both fuel and spark tunable.
It will work with a stock 1.7 or a big bore 2771cc.
The price will be about $1K.
I am seeing if this is of interest to you guys.

Posted by: JmuRiz Mar 2 2005, 11:02 AM

Dang, I'm in the process of buying some Dell DRLA 45s. The FI setup sounds good though...especially remembering your tests with the kitcarlson stuff a few months back.
(EDIT: I was thinking this was Jake for a second)
BTW will this be a kitcarlson setup or something else?

Posted by: MarkG Mar 2 2005, 11:02 AM

sounds good, especialy for a 2270.....

Posted by: jwalters Mar 2 2005, 11:03 AM

If it can be done and had for a grand or even close to it--I believe it would pan out well--I am waiting myself for a decent, reliable, inexpensive system to come out so as I can replace my duals---I would have went with a stockish one but there is just so much clutter with that system--very difficult to make it clean and presentable and get good power numbers from.....

Posted by: bd1308 Mar 2 2005, 11:06 AM

totally flippin sweet!

Posted by: dinomium Mar 2 2005, 11:10 AM

Im listenin Im listenin

Posted by: StratPlayer Mar 2 2005, 11:12 AM

I don't think you'll find any problem with the FI owners on a 1K system that works

Posted by: azbill Mar 2 2005, 11:14 AM

Who's the developer Kit Carlson, MegaSqu. or yours? Will be looking forward to see it. Keep around a grand and then I'm real interested.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Mar 2 2005, 11:25 AM

What would be included with the kit? The "hard parts" (throttle, manifolding, fuel distribution system, injectors, wiring) can get really really expensive in a huge hurry.

--DD

Posted by: Type 4 Mar 2 2005, 11:34 AM

The system has Intake runners Throttle body ECU Injectors sensors Dizzy ect.
It will be a get it in tmail on Friday put it in on Sat drive it on Sundat set up complete with every thing in the box to get the job done even if you live in Waterloo Iowa.

Posted by: sean_v8_914 Mar 2 2005, 11:35 AM

what does it measure to determine fuel metering? Manifold pressure? intake flow? O2 out?

Posted by: Type 4 Mar 2 2005, 11:41 AM

Without going into detail it is a state of the art system.
It will control Fuel Mixture
Spark timing advance curve ie it will retard the timing at the upper RPM or if you turbo when the boost comes on.
Like I said Fully programable.

Posted by: mike_the_man Mar 2 2005, 12:00 PM

Sounds pretty sweet! I'd be interested. If you could keep the price down and have it fully programable, I think it would fly. I'm also curious as to how you would monitor the mixture. I'm assuming you would need a lap top to do the tuning?

What ever happened to the Kit Carlson stuff? I haven't seen him post here in a while. Last I heard Jake was still playing with it. Is it ready? Any pricing for it?

Posted by: Type 4 Mar 2 2005, 12:06 PM

Yes you will need a laptop.

I dont know about the Kit Carlson.

Posted by: Joe Ricard Mar 2 2005, 12:11 PM

I'm skeptical about the price and promises. Show me and I may buy. get one of the old 914 club guys to put on his car test / tune and on a dyno and I WILL buy.

Posted by: Type 4 Mar 2 2005, 12:18 PM

I will Have the first one hopefully on my 914 by the WCC.
I am building a 2563cc to test it with.
This engine has 48 x 36 valves and 86M cam with 9 to 1 Cr.

Posted by: ematulac Mar 2 2005, 12:22 PM

I'm interested.

I was looking at the Redline kit, which is $3k+.

Posted by: lapuwali Mar 2 2005, 12:35 PM

Not to put you on the spot, but a LOT more detail would be required, esp. for this crowd, which is better educated on EFI than most. $1K is a decent price, but it's not earth shattering.

You say "intake runners, throttle body, dizzy, etc", you're including ALL of that? Can we get the ECU only for less if we supply our own intake runners, throttle body, and dizzy?

Does it do data logging? Does it use an airflow meter?

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 2 2005, 12:56 PM

you've got my attention. need details.

Posted by: type47 Mar 2 2005, 01:11 PM

i'd be interested for $1k

Posted by: Jake Raby Mar 2 2005, 01:42 PM

I wanna see this.....

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 2 2005, 02:17 PM

Me too! What size is the manifolds? Plenum? Injectors?

Geoff

Posted by: Type 4 Mar 2 2005, 02:28 PM

Patience
I will hopefully have it at the WCC ( this is my goal)and you guys can see it and drive it.

Like all electronic's the cost is dropping .

Remember the first calculator's were over $500 now they just can give them away.

Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 2 2005, 02:29 PM

go for it steve.

k

Posted by: Hi_Fi_Guy Mar 2 2005, 02:58 PM

Another great reason to attend WCC. You have my attention.

Posted by: rdauenhauer Mar 2 2005, 03:32 PM

Hmmm Dizzy? What about a module approach so those of us who might be considering a crank triggered system could upgrade?

Posted by: Flat VW Mar 2 2005, 04:05 PM

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,

In my business, we call this "vaporware".

Best of luck,

John

Posted by: Type 4 Mar 2 2005, 04:19 PM

The system can be used with a Crank fire the cost will be a bit less due to not needing the Dizzy.

Posted by: martinef1963 Mar 2 2005, 04:49 PM

QUOTE (Type 4 @ Mar 2 2005, 11:48 AM)
I am looking at on bring a totally programable FI system on to the market.
The system is a Type 4 specific setup that is both fuel and spark tunable.
It will work with a stock 1.7 or a big bore 2771cc.
The price will be about $1K.
I am seeing if this is of interest to you guys.

I have a BBK, EI, and stock CAM - is it compatible? You stated 1.7 "OR"..........

thanks

Posted by: martinef1963 Mar 2 2005, 04:50 PM

Sorry BBK is makes me a 1.9L.

Posted by: ThinAir914 Mar 2 2005, 09:53 PM

I'll be interested. Like others have said, it will take more details and some testimonials, but it sounds promising.

Posted by: redshift Mar 2 2005, 10:30 PM

How much for a 2270, crankfired, and injected?

I like your website, and I have been thinking about making a westcoast roller thing. How much for me to drop a car, less engine package at your place, and pick it up ready to drive home?

Clutch, engine, injection, ignition, install.

Hurry up! I got nothing but time!

M

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