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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 2 2005, 02:03 PM

914 AX Shootout

Loma Prieta Region PCA and 914club are coming together for a one-time event: the 914 AX shootout!

On Sunday morning, March 20th, plan to be in one place: Marina Airfield near Monterey and Laguna Seca. This is a fabulous AX site with excellent pavement. Course design will be by our own Randal Barrick. Lunch will be catered in by a nearby Deli. Expect to be able to order a sandwich, chips, and drink for $10 or less.

This event is being hosted by the Loma Prieta region PCA. As such, participation will limited to PCA members (driving any Porsche) and 914's (PCA membership not required) only. V8 and other conversions are welcome! So, although it's not an all-914 AX, it's close! (Besides, we can show those tail-draggers and water-pumpers who's boss!). Expect about eight runs -- maybe more!

Sunday March 20th
Marina Airfield, CA
Registration 7.15-8.30 AM
Driver's meeting 8.45AM
$30 Entrance fee

Snell 1990 or better helmet required.
Instruction and limited loaner helmets available.
Drivers must work for runs.

For those out-of-towners, Trekkor will chime in here soon about nearby motel discounts that he has arranged.

I know that it's late notice, but we need to get about 20+ 914's at this event! We can do it!! So commit now!!! Also, I'm looking for a few volunteers to come early and do some setup (this counts for your work requirement!).

Please RSVP in THIS thread. We need to know how many 914club members to expect. Questions? Post 'em here, or PM me.

Thanks, and get those cars ready!

Nathan

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 2 2005, 02:06 PM

Directions to Marina:

Take Highway 1 south toward Monterey and Laguna Seca Raceway. Take the Reservation Road exit south toward Marina. After one short block, turn right in order to stay on Reservation Road. Follow the road through Marina approximately two miles south of town. Turn left at (Imjin Road)signal into Marina Airfield. Turn right after the first large building on the right and follow the cones to the autocross site.

Posted by: skline Mar 2 2005, 02:10 PM

Man I wish I were closer. I would run this in a heart beat. I just have so much more to do on this car to get it ready for WCC. Plus the fact that you are like 9 hours away driving. The price is cheap too. One of these days I will be able to come up there and do some driving. I am even a PCA member.

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 2 2005, 02:11 PM

Commited 914club members:

Randal
Nathan
Trekkor
Britain
Patrick P (and son?)
Grant
Theo
Birgit
Chris Julian in his MONSTER V8!
Maybe Otmar?!!
Dave! (w/ or w/o legal representation)
Andy?
Jenny?
Howard?
Rob Ways?

Early AM Set-Up (need 5 only)

Randal
Nathan
Trekkor



Want to hear from:

Richard Linsdall
Demick
Mueller
Fiid
Michael (V8 car)
Kelly Thorsen
Jeff Keyzer
PatW
Dennis
RichB
James Montebello
MarkD
Mikey
Gwen
Mike Ambriskkskksoooo
Carl Cilker
Meredith
Kim Knuttila
DMan
Chris Reale
Steve N
Joy N

-College-age people can crash at my place!

Posted by: J P Stein Mar 2 2005, 02:23 PM

I'm not gonna have the car done in time to make it, but I intend to get down there in May/June for an AX.

Posted by: ppickerell Mar 2 2005, 02:52 PM

My 914 will not be ready by then so Peridot Racing will be there in the ass dragger and the boxster.

Posted by: Britain Smith Mar 2 2005, 02:54 PM

Count me in for the fun...

-Britain

Posted by: nocones Mar 2 2005, 03:35 PM

Dammit!

Unless I can figure out my linkage issues in time I'll have to pass.
Haven't got tires yet either so it would be street tires... Hmmm...

I doubt I'll make it.

Michael
74' 914/8

Posted by: nine14cats Mar 2 2005, 03:35 PM

Hey JP,

If you don't want to haul your car down, wait until June to come down and you can take laps in the new 3.6 beast....

meow...

Bill P.

Posted by: Jenny Mar 2 2005, 03:39 PM

My teener can't hold her own swepco as of right now. I'll keep you posted... If not in my own, I may be sharing Birgit's car.

Jen

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 2 2005, 04:01 PM

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 2 2005, 12:11 PM)

Andy

Me (if i can get my car ready by then) ...

Andy

Posted by: Aaron Cox Mar 2 2005, 05:30 PM

uh...anyone from socal want to team up and tow my car up/thrash my car??? trekkor wants to bow down to me

Posted by: GTeener Mar 2 2005, 06:03 PM

Maybe. Saturdays are better for me.

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 2 2005, 09:48 PM

keepin' it on the first page!

n

Posted by: trekkor Mar 2 2005, 11:21 PM

I need at least ten guaranteed motel rooms before I can offer the phone number/rate info.

It will be at the Super 8 on Reservation rd in Marina.
10 minutes from the a/x site and car trailer friendly.

Good restaurant across the street and 5 min walk to the beach.

PM me if you want to stay at the reduced club rate.

1. Trekkor


KT

Posted by: trekkor Mar 2 2005, 11:54 PM

QUOTE

trekkor wants to bow down to me

Are you insane?...
SIXES scarf up FOURS...mostly

KT

Posted by: Aaron Cox Mar 2 2005, 11:57 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Mar 2 2005, 10:54 PM)

QUOTE trekkor wants to bow down to me Are you insane?... SIXES scarf up FOURS...mostly KT

i need a ride/ tow up there first.....

ill see if skline wants to go... we can both thrash my car.... (you can do 2 drivers right?)

Posted by: trekkor Mar 3 2005, 12:03 AM

Two driver cars all day long.
Just put two numbers on it.

Randal may run my car with me
#222 will be under my magnetics. Just lift it off when he runs.

KT

Posted by: carreraguy Mar 3 2005, 01:21 AM

Just confirming I'm in!

Posted by: J P Stein Mar 3 2005, 03:09 AM

QUOTE (nine14cats @ Mar 2 2005, 01:35 PM)

Hey JP, If you don't want to haul your car down, wait until June to come down and you can take laps in the new 3.6 beast.... meow... Bill P.

Well of course I'm gonna bring my car down......no one want's to see just me I well may wait till you have your cats in the corral, tho.....just to see how my little 2.7 stacks up against your he-man 3.6 . Then we can swap cars for a pass or 2.

Posted by: trekkor Mar 3 2005, 08:54 PM

Posted by: kermit Mar 4 2005, 12:03 AM

If the weather is good, 80% change I'll be there.

Posted by: Steve_7x Mar 4 2005, 01:36 PM

I doubt Joy and I can make it. If the AutoX were on Satruday the odds would have been better for us - but alas...

Y'all have fun without us!

Just remember...

Full Throtle Until You See God... then Brake!

Steve

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 6 2005, 03:31 PM

let's go people, surely there are more of you who can commit to this!!!

Posted by: mikey Mar 6 2005, 07:18 PM

My car's still on jackstands , maybe it will be ready by summer (insert wishful thinking smiley). I'd come down and watch but I think I have pager duty that weekend. Hope you guys and gals have fun.

Mikey

Posted by: trekkor Mar 6 2005, 09:14 PM

How many '14ers are going to be there?

Nobody has replied to the group rate for the motel.
Hope to see more interest.

I'll be there if that helps

KT

Posted by: McMark Mar 6 2005, 09:28 PM

I'm trying to tune my car. If I make progress I'll be there.

Posted by: Rob Ways Mar 6 2005, 09:50 PM

There's a chance I'll be there.... perhaps just to work for ya'all.

Posted by: Randal Mar 6 2005, 10:09 PM

QUOTE

SIXES scarf up FOURS...mostly

What?

Posted by: trekkor Mar 6 2005, 10:36 PM

You'll see...You'll all see...Mwaahahahahhhaaaaaa.

Back me up here, Bill.

KT

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 7 2005, 10:49 AM

I'll be there defending my home region turf in the 1.8. I'm trying to make a commitment to hit all the LPR events this year.

Posted by: merrill Mar 7 2005, 11:20 AM

I'd like to try, but I have to get my car from Utah to my house before I can commit.
What are the requirements for seat belts and roll bars for an event like this? Virgin ax'er

Posted by: trekkor Mar 7 2005, 11:34 AM

Basic req's: Tight wheel bearings, good tires, no major oil leaks, good firm brake pedal, secured battery, factory seat belts or better. Roll bar NOT required.

Easy tech. Come run.

KT

Posted by: merrill Mar 7 2005, 11:38 AM

Thank you so much for the info! What is the drop dead date for registration? I am going to PM the member with the help list for my trip from Utah.

Posted by: trekkor Mar 7 2005, 12:14 PM

http://lpr.pca.org/flyers/20050320-lprax1.pdf

Register on site, day of event by 8:30am.

KT

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 7 2005, 01:28 PM

Hi Merrill

Welcome. Registration happens at the event, but try to let me know before hand -- i need a rough count of how many 914ers to expect.

looks like i may still be breaking in my engine for this event...

Posted by: theol00 Mar 7 2005, 01:34 PM

I will try to make it with my 914 - Theo
Trekkor - run - don't hide

Posted by: carreraguy Mar 7 2005, 02:21 PM

Looks like I may not be able to make it after all - forgot about the big Porsche event at Fontana Speedway that weekend.

Posted by: 9146R Mar 8 2005, 12:47 AM

Wanna be there in worst way - however 29th wedding anniversary presents minor (major) conflict in my schedule. Both the car and driver need to blow some soot out and put some heat in the tires. Have fun...

Posted by: Andyrew Mar 8 2005, 02:26 AM

20th eh?

A: im probably working

B: I dont have the clutch for it!

C: no trailer

Ah, I would love to come!!!!

Andrew

Posted by: Birgit Mar 8 2005, 07:21 PM

I will be there for SURE, no matter what

Gotta support the 914 Auto-X so we can maybe have some more in the future.

-Birgit

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 9 2005, 01:54 PM

QUOTE (Birgit @ Mar 8 2005, 05:21 PM)

Gotta support the 914 Auto-X so we can maybe have some more in the future.

WTG Birgit!

that's the spirit -- i'm beginning to worry that we're not going to have a substantial turnout -- get those cars ready, folks!

Posted by: anthony Mar 10 2005, 04:35 PM

I can't make this one. I'm going to Tahoe that weekend.

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 10 2005, 05:07 PM

bummer, but have fun!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Mar 11 2005, 05:04 PM

Nathan.. call me. I built half that list.. I dont want to leave Kathy hanging.



B

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 11 2005, 09:20 PM

QUOTE (Brad Roberts @ Mar 11 2005, 03:04 PM)

Nathan.. call me. I built half that list.. I dont want to leave Kathy hanging.

tried, couldn't get through (even blocked call waiting!)

will try again tomorrow, or feel free to call me 650 498 1017

nate

Posted by: Jenny Mar 11 2005, 09:30 PM

don't feel bad. No one can get thru.
He an equal opportunity discriminator.

Jen

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 11 2005, 11:39 PM

QUOTE (Jenny @ Mar 11 2005, 07:30 PM)

don't feel bad. No one can get thru.

i can. but i won't tell you how. you have to figure that one out for yourself ...

you are a smart girrrrrl, i'm sure you figure it out!
Andy

Posted by: Jenny Mar 13 2005, 12:42 AM

yeah, I use the bat phone. Seriously, I've got a way, but I feel bad inconveniencing others.

Jen

Posted by: neo914-6 Mar 13 2005, 02:32 AM

I will be nearby in the Salinas (w/o 914) working on my parents rental house.

Chris Julian is planning to debut his V8 monster. I can't miss that!

Tomorrow I'll see if Jason will participate (yes still bugging him, Brad)

Posted by: Otmar Mar 13 2005, 03:09 AM

I am way overworked lately, haven't done diddly on the car, and probably have a battery going out that will show itself after a few runs, but I do have a place to crash in Monterey and there are not nearly enough people on that list!

I think I'll try to make it.

I hate racing twice without modifying my car in between. Especially since I did so poorly last time out (WCC 04)
I can think of two things that I would like to do:
1) De-Camber the rears and toe out the front (not too hard).
2) Get some AX rubber.

Does anyone in central Kalifornia have some 4 bolt AX wheels wth rubber to sell me?
I've got a little cash to throw at it, and not a lot of time, I'd love a bolt on solution even if I have to buy new rubber (does anyone stock decent stuff around here?) I've got no flares, and am running 2.0 mags for my street tires so nothing too wide.
I've got a set of EMPIs but no short bolts to mount them with and I don't like the incorrect offset. Should I even consider making them my track wheels?
When the PO used them he burned the paint off the left fender from rubbing.

Posted by: trekkor Mar 13 2005, 09:56 AM

Who is on the "yes" list?
One week away...

KT

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 13 2005, 06:32 PM

Otmar, if for some reason i can't get my engine together, installed, tuned, and atleast somewhat broken in before next sunday (i should make it, but it's damn tight at this point), then you can use my race-rubber/wheels for a six-pack. even if my car's not done, i'll be down there.

n

Posted by: dan10101 Mar 13 2005, 10:03 PM

QUOTE (Neo914 @ Mar 13 2005, 12:32 AM)

Chris Julian is planning to debut his V8 monster. I can't miss that!

Now that would be worth the price of admission

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=10888&hl=chris+julian

This 4 car garage is going to be nice when it's done, but until then I see 2x4s in my sleep... And we're missing all the good stuff..

Posted by: Otmar Mar 13 2005, 10:28 PM

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 13 2005, 05:32 PM)

Otmar, if for some reason i can't get my engine together, installed, tuned, and atleast somewhat broken in before next sunday (i should make it, but it's damn tight at this point), then you can use my race-rubber/wheels for a six-pack.

That's real great of you Nathan.
I'd rather you get your car together in time but if it doesn't happen then you can take a lap or two on your tires in my car .

Posted by: SilverBullet Mar 14 2005, 09:04 AM

You can count Darren and I (Jason) in for this one. See you all there.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Mar 14 2005, 07:22 PM

If I can convince the car to get there, I'll be there!!! I already said I'd be there.

(My attorney is not pleased, though. That's the 1st anniversary of the day we met... I think I need to go buy some flowers & chocolate, or I'll be sleeping on the couch yet again!)

--DD

Posted by: neo914-6 Mar 14 2005, 08:21 PM

QUOTE

sleeping on the couch yet again!

Just tell her you're bringing her to Monterey for dinner with one stop...

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 14 2005, 09:47 PM

that's a good one, felix!

Posted by: Dave_Darling Mar 15 2005, 03:51 PM

Man, that'd be worse than completely ignoring her!! She doesn't like autoXing; she only wants to drive and you don't get much of that at an autoX. If we were running at Seca, that'd probably be regarded as the best anniversary present ever. But she really doesn't like all the standing around we do during an autoX.

Not to mention the whole waking up at 6:30 AM on a Sunday bit. (Hard enough to get her moving at 7:30 on a weekday!!)

--DD

Posted by: trekkor Mar 16 2005, 01:04 AM

Weatherman says we may have rain. I'm in rain or shine.

KT

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 16 2005, 02:48 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Mar 15 2005, 11:04 PM)

Weatherman says we may have rain. I'm in rain or shine. KT

I'm sorta wimpy when it comes to weather since I have to run with the top off to fit with my helmet. If its sprinkling I'm in. If we are having downpours I'll probably not go.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Mar 16 2005, 05:58 PM

Grant--just take the bottom seat cushion out when you run. It's quick, easy, and it works. It gets you down almost 2" further in the car, and gives you better lateral support!

If you have racing seats, that's another matter. Bolt 'em directly to the floor and get rid of the seat rails and adjusters.

--DD

Posted by: trekkor Mar 16 2005, 06:17 PM

Grant, I have three thin foam cushions that are perfect to take the place of the stock seat. Already cut to fit

First three takers get one.

Here's mine custom covered compared to a stock cushion.

KT


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Posted by: grantsfo Mar 16 2005, 09:06 PM

QUOTE (Dave_Darling @ Mar 16 2005, 03:58 PM)

Grant--just take the bottom seat cushion out when you run. It's quick, easy, and it works. It gets you down almost 2" further in the car, and gives you better lateral support! If you have racing seats, that's another matter. Bolt 'em directly to the floor and get rid of the seat rails and adjusters. --DD

I'm talking about not fitting with the seat cushion out. I'm almost 6'4" tall. So I have to keep my head down. It really distracts me from driving fast.

Posted by: kermit Mar 16 2005, 09:39 PM

How about just bringing the Boxster instead?

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 16 2005, 10:02 PM

Grant -- i saw your car today at HPH. looks great with the header (and awesome choice in muffler!). larry did a good job routing the clutch cable around the hot spots...

can't wait to see it in action.

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 16 2005, 10:19 PM

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 16 2005, 08:02 PM)

Grant -- i saw your car today at HPH.  looks great with the header (and awesome choice in muffler!).  larry did a good job routing the clutch cable around the hot spots... can't wait to see it in action.

Cool! I cant wait to see how it turned out. I have the r compounds and wider wheels ready to go too! My little stock 1.8 needed some help. I may be nipping on heels of the 2.0 prepared cars now on tight courses. ..And if not at least I'll sound cool.

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 16 2005, 10:28 PM

QUOTE (kermit @ Mar 16 2005, 07:39 PM)

How about just bringing the Boxster instead?

My tires are almost gone on the Boxster and I just dumped a bunch of $$ into the 914. I need a couple of months more out of the S03's. They are so damn expensive to replace.

Actually I could drive my Echo! That car would rock on a wet course with the Falkens I have on it.

Posted by: AndrewBlyholder Mar 17 2005, 11:48 AM

Sorry to disappoint, but I have to bow out, too many other projects on my plate for the weekend. You'll have a great time, Marina's got great grip. I used to get my white car up on two wheels there. That takes a lot of grip to get a 914 healed over that much.

Don't forget to post pictures after for those of us that can't make it!

Andrew

Posted by: trekkor Mar 17 2005, 11:52 AM

I am really looking foward to this event. April 25th of last year was my first in a bone stock, dead shocked streeter "B" car.

Now, almost a year later, I'm in "FM" and all cocky.

I can't wait to throttle up through the start lights at 7k rpm's.

Let's have some fun.

KT

Posted by: Dave_Darling Mar 17 2005, 12:04 PM

QUOTE (grantsfo @ Mar 16 2005, 07:06 PM)

I'm talking about not fitting with the seat cushion out. I'm almost 6'4" tall.

Then cut out all the hinge crap and bracketry and bolt the seat directly to the floor! See Steve Iverson's pics in the "five-point harness" thread.

--DD

Posted by: GTeener Mar 17 2005, 01:22 PM

I'll be there if it rains a lot Saturday night and my prior commitment gets cancelled...

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 17 2005, 07:05 PM

QUOTE (Dave_Darling @ Mar 17 2005, 10:04 AM)

QUOTE (grantsfo @ Mar 16 2005, 07:06 PM) I'm talking about not fitting with the seat cushion out.  I'm almost 6'4" tall. Then cut out all the hinge crap and bracketry and bolt the seat directly to the floor! See Steve Iverson's pics in the "five-point harness" thread. --DD

Yeah thats what Rich said today at HPH. Thats the only way I'm going to fit with the top on.

Posted by: Otmar Mar 18 2005, 09:50 PM

Bad news,
With way too much work still undone and feeling under the weather it doesn't look like I will be making it after all. Sorry to miss it.

Have fun though and take pictures please!

Posted by: trekkor Mar 18 2005, 11:47 PM

Rain tires are on.

KT

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 19 2005, 11:01 AM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Mar 18 2005, 09:47 PM)

Rain tires are on. KT

I'll bring my kayak. ...looks like I may have time today to get the Yoko's mounted on my skinny Fuchs. I'll bring the 914 and just pull the top off for runs.

Is there anyone going who would like to take a look at my American racing wheels? I can bring them. I can bring some Falkens that have 50% tread left too if anyone is intersted.

Posted by: trekkor Mar 19 2005, 02:52 PM

Grant, those Yok's will be perfect on your 914 rims.
I have mine on my 5.5" Pedrini's and it's good.

Nathan, hope you can make it.

I'm going to get trailered up and be outta town within the next hour or two.

The weater look's pretty good right now. The ground is actually dry again, so I'll pack the Hoosiers, too.

See ya all at 7:00am or after...slackers!

KT

Posted by: Chris Julian Mar 19 2005, 05:27 PM

Not going to make it. The cars still at Custom Alignment torn apart. Bummer- I was looking forward to this. Good luck with the weather.

Chris

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 19 2005, 10:17 PM

bummer to hear about that, chris.

i won't be driving, but i'll be there bright and early to setup the course and give any technical support i can.

cheers, n

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 07:48 PM

For those that missed, it -- the Marina LPR/914club AX was a good time. The weather had been threatening to rain, but we had none, and the course was dry by early in the AM.

I left a little early, so no results yet...

here are some shots from the morning...

weather was beautiful, if a little chilly




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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 07:50 PM

off the top of my head, we had about 10+ 914's (but about another 6 of us showed up w/ out cars just to watch).




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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 07:51 PM

birgit was a little frustrated in the am -- but she REALLY drove smooth and fast in the pm.


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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 07:53 PM

britain flogged the hell out of his early 1.7, and by pm was being really consistent. i was impressed with your driving today, britain




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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 07:54 PM

but you're still my bitch.


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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 07:56 PM

Dave Darling was there, sans lawyer, driving the hell out of his 2.0 Bi car.


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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 07:58 PM

i didn't meet this guy -- someone told me his name, but i forgot it... (sorry, guy).

but he was HELLA fast. i believe he still had the TTOD at the time that i left... nice car, too


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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 08:00 PM

and grant did some seriously impressive driving with his 1.8 (equipped with new header and ultra-bite front brake pads that would lock too early... there was another second on the course for him if he could get his bias resolved)


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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 08:03 PM

howard yao is just a damn good driver. he could flog a damn horse and carriage around the course faster than most 911's.

proving something to this effect, he brought a stock mercedes on street tires, and promptly showed us that the driver is the most important factor.


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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 08:06 PM

i forget this gentleman's name -- nice looking stock car -- but he made some impressive strides throughout the day, and was earning some impressive times when i left.

imagine if he had a swaybar...


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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 08:12 PM

trekkor was, of course, out in full force. during lunch, he game me a ride in his /6 conversion. ughhh,,, it's F A S T. maybe not quite scary-fast, but really, really fast. it made me shout like a cowboy a few times.

cam doesn't really come on until about 5k, though -- and then it pulls HARD clear past 7k. keeping those revs high w/ a stock tranny is going to be his season's challenge.

trekkor, re. that noise -- it sounded to me like it could be some baffling in a muffler coming loose.

nice job, trekkor


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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 08:13 PM

mo' tk


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Posted by: nebreitling Mar 20 2005, 08:14 PM

i've got about 70 other photos if any of you racers want 'em.

hi-res too. email me.

Posted by: kermit Mar 20 2005, 09:05 PM

Nathan, thanks for posting the cool pics. If you have a couple hi-res pics of the 190e, please email them my way.

Like I announced in the trailer today, any 914club members that didn't beat my time - owes me a beer! But judging by how well everybody was driving though, I'm not expecting one. We'll see when the results get posted on the LPR site in a few days...

It was funny, I started going faster when I eased off the gas a bit, the rear tires were just spinning out like crazy. I hate street tires! But hydroplaning on the 101 on the way home would have sucked more...

Great meeting a lot of you guys in person today.

Posted by: McMark Mar 20 2005, 11:07 PM

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 20 2005, 06:06 PM)

i forget this gentleman's name -- nice looking stock car -- but he made some impressive strides throughout the day, and was earning some impressive times when i left. imagine if he had a swaybar...

That looks like Matt (plas76targa)! Nice to see he could make it out. Looks like I got his battery tray welded in just in time.

Posted by: plas76targa Mar 20 2005, 11:36 PM

Mark - yep dat was me! Had a blast. The grin is still barely evident 12 hours later!

Nice photo's Nathan. I'd like to see more of #34 if you have any. I'll email you tomorrow from work

I'll add thanks to DD who got me pointed towards the right people to get me set up to start. Add to Randall who rode as my instructor. He set up a fun course too!

I'm hooked. Starting my wish list already!

Matt

Posted by: Britain Smith Mar 20 2005, 11:42 PM

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 20 2005, 06:54 PM)

but you're still my bitch.

That was a fun day...good weather also.

I was able to pull off a 55.9 in my little 1.7L, almost enough to catch Trekkor's top time. It was definitely a course that you could not make any mistakes on.

-Britain

Posted by: Britain Smith Mar 20 2005, 11:44 PM

QUOTE (plas76targa @ Mar 20 2005, 10:36 PM)

Mark - yep dat was me! Had a blast. The grin is still barely evident 12 hours later! Nice photo's Nathan. I'd like to see more of #34 if you have any. I'll email you tomorrow from work I'll add thanks to DD who got me pointed towards the right people to get me set up to start. Add to Randall who rode as my instructor. He set up a fun course too! I'm hooked. Starting my wish list already! Matt

Hey Matt...I really wanted to meet you. I also drive a bone stock 1.7L, orange, with steel wheels. Well, I put on the fuchs for the events. Anyway, when I started a year ago I had no sway bars either. I have come a long way in a year, but if you need any advice on catching the 2.0L guys with you 1.7L I can help you out.

-Britain

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 21 2005, 12:08 AM

yeah -- all you guys driving less-than-2.0's really kept up the pace today.

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 21 2005, 12:10 AM

matt -- i think i've got another 4 or 5 of you...

send me your email address and i'll pass them on.

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 21 2005, 09:10 AM

QUOTE (Britain Smith @ Mar 20 2005, 09:42 PM)

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 20 2005, 06:54 PM) but you're still my bitch.  :finger2:  :finger2:   That was a fun day...good weather also. I was able to pull off a 55.9 in my little 1.7L, almost enough to catch Trekkor's top time. It was definitely a course that you could not make any mistakes on. -Britain

Britian, I want to drive as smooth as you when I grow up. I managed a 56.1 But I know it looked and sounded a lot uglier than your 55.9.

Nathan, I'd like some of my car if you have anymore. Cant wait to see your completed car. ...and I still cant get over how much those 75 bumpers weigh!

Trekkor, Great meeting you and thanks for the pad again!

Posted by: plas76targa Mar 21 2005, 10:09 AM

Britian - I meant to walk over and say hi. Your reputation preceeds you. I'll take all the advice you want to share.

I believe we actually sat at the same table at a 914 breakfast back in November? Hopefully I can make it up to the 914 lunch this Sat - see you then if possible?

Item #1 on the wish list, where to buy a helmet?

Posted by: Britain Smith Mar 21 2005, 11:33 AM

QUOTE (plas76targa @ Mar 21 2005, 09:09 AM)

Britian - I meant to walk over and say hi. Your reputation preceeds you. I'll take all the advice you want to share. I believe we actually sat at the same table at a 914 breakfast back in November? Hopefully I can make it up to the 914 lunch this Sat - see you then if possible? Item #1 on the wish list, where to buy a helmet?

Unless you have an issue with having your head in someone elses helmet...I would spend the money on car upgrades first. I don't even own a helmet yet!

I would/have spent that money on front and rear sway bars (stock rear bar and Welt front bar)and tires (falkin azenis). I still have the non-turbo tie rods, stock brakes, and even the tailshifter. You don't need to do too much to get faster...just get some seat time and drive as smooth and consistant as possible. Every one of my runs yesterday were in the 56's with the exception of the 57 that I ran in the first lap around the course, and the 55.9 that I ran on the last run of the day.

-Britain

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 21 2005, 11:43 AM

i hate you guys!


damm that was frustrating watching you guys run.
why am i doing this to myself?

Andy

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 21 2005, 12:41 PM

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 20 2005, 05:58 PM)

i didn't meet this guy -- someone told me his name, but i forgot it... (sorry, guy). but he was HELLA fast. i believe he still had the TTOD at the time that i left... nice car, too

I worked the field with Albert or was it Alberto? In talking with him he has a 2056 with dual carbs and a cam. That car flew with him at the wheel. I think the red Boxster S got TTD which was impressive driving as well.

Posted by: GTeener Mar 21 2005, 12:55 PM

Looks like a great day! Great pix N! Thanks for sharing

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 21 2005, 01:12 PM

QUOTE (grantsfo @ Mar 21 2005, 10:41 AM)

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 20 2005, 05:58 PM) i didn't meet this guy -- someone told me his name, but i forgot it... (sorry, guy). but he was HELLA fast.  i believe he still had the TTOD at the time that i left...  nice car, too I worked the field with Albert or was it Alberto? In talking with him he has a 2056 with dual carbs and a cam. That car flew with him at the wheel. I think the red Boxster S got TTD which was impressive driving as well.

that's right, it was "Albert".

hmmm, i'll have a 2056, carbs and cam

that boxster driver was good.

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 21 2005, 01:27 PM

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 21 2005, 11:12 AM)

that's right, it was "Albert"

yupp, he blew up his motor and brad had to trailer him home ...

nice car tho and he certainly knows how to drive it!
Andy

Posted by: Mueller Mar 21 2005, 01:31 PM

QUOTE

yupp, he blew up his motor and brad had to trailer him home ...

.....now I don't have to call Brad and see if he knew his trailer was missing

we've had a rash of break-ins and thefts around here since the Fremont police no longer respond to alarms or even drive around here once in a while.....

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 21 2005, 01:39 PM

QUOTE (SirAndy @ Mar 21 2005, 11:27 AM)

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 21 2005, 11:12 AM) that's right, it was "Albert" yupp, he blew up his motor and brad had to trailer him home ... nice car tho and he certainly knows how to drive it! Andy

Dang! He wasnt sure when he first brought it in. It certainly was smoking pretty bad after his last run.

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 21 2005, 02:08 PM

QUOTE (SirAndy @ Mar 21 2005, 11:27 AM)

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 21 2005, 11:12 AM) that's right, it was "Albert" yupp, he blew up his motor and brad had to trailer him home ... nice car tho and he certainly knows how to drive it! Andy

are you serious? tell me more -- what happened?

that sucks big time for him...

Posted by: Dave_Darling Mar 21 2005, 06:20 PM

Consensus was that he had dropped a valve seat. The motor sounded pretty bad, but at least no clashity-clashity (valve impacting piston) noises.

I told Matt to watch Britain's driving. You really ought to be an instructor, Britain! You sure are a better driver than I am, and I've been an instructor for years! (I really ought to run more than a couple of autoXes a year, though.) Kicked my butt by two full seconds yesterday!!

Matt, it was nice to meet you. Next time, stay through the afternoon runs--it's more of the same!

Grant, I liked seeing another Olympic Blue out there running. And you're right, you don't fit with the top on. Only things left to do are: Cut out the rails and bolt the seat directly to the floor; Slouch.

Thanks to Randall for a fun course. Thanks to Britain for reminding me (through example) that smooth is the way to drive.

--DD

Posted by: trekkor Mar 21 2005, 08:51 PM

I had a great day despite the fact that I can't drive.

How many spin out did you count?
Brad said, " you're only allowed one spin per run".

I know I had at least two runs with 2 spins and just avoiding a third was fun. I must have spun out in 50% of my runs

Thanks to my 914Club "pit crew" with the tire change and other help. Just watching me run and offering suggestions helped me out.

Randal, thanks for the in car instruction in the a.m.!

More than one person said they saw my rear wheels locking up and putting me around.

I told Andy that it felt like I was pulling the E-brake.

I post some video soon. Both in car and out.

KT

Posted by: 914 novice Mar 21 2005, 09:33 PM

I had a good time just watching everyone run and talking with everyone.I can see how this could be addicting.
Bump that a/x schedule back up so I can make plans to be at another one.Maybe one of you guys could take me for a cruise.
Paul

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 22 2005, 12:55 AM

paul, nice meeting you and chatting it up. get yourself a car and come out and play.

Posted by: fiid Mar 22 2005, 01:04 AM

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 20 2005, 06:03 PM)

howard yao is just a damn good driver. he could flog a damn horse and carriage around the course faster than most 911's. proving something to this effect, he brought a stock mercedes on street tires, and promptly showed us that the driver is the most important factor.

Daymn. This just goes to show that I ought to AX even though my car is on stands. It would be fun to AX the 2.5GT wagon or the miata.

me gotta get out more.

Posted by: ChrisReale Mar 22 2005, 01:52 AM

dude, kick some butt in the miata....

Posted by: J P Stein Mar 22 2005, 02:07 AM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Mar 21 2005, 06:51 PM)

I had a great day despite the fact that I can't drive.

Hay, quit stealin' my material.

Posted by: nebreitling Mar 22 2005, 09:16 AM

trekkor, you just need to get reacclimatized to your car now. you put some extra weight and power in the rear without beefing up your suspension, your tires, or your brakes. not to mention you were driving like a cowboy (yeee-haw)!

also, i was looking at some of the photos i shot of you (i'll compress and send) -- i think you need to check your trailing arms for lateral play. in one shot, the left-rear is moving over what looks to be too much.

ever figure out that noise?

Posted by: trekkor Mar 22 2005, 09:41 AM

That noise, sounded like fuel starvation or mis-fire to me.
It only came on after 5500 rpm's and only during a few of the afternoon runs. Only under load.

It went away during the fun runs and I squeaked out a 54.xx.

KT

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 22 2005, 11:13 AM

QUOTE (nebreitling @ Mar 22 2005, 07:16 AM)

not to mention you were driving like a cowboy (yeee-haw)!

Yeah remeber only us guys in lightwieght wimpy 4 cylinder cars get to drive like cowboys and get away with it.

Posted by: trekkor Mar 22 2005, 11:20 AM

But, I don't want to be a cowboy...

Here's a shot my wife took.

Britain's in the background about 15 secs behind.

KT


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Posted by: trekkor Mar 22 2005, 11:31 AM

Don't forget about this contender, John Beck.
Fast 911. Great sounding mill as well.

KT


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