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Posted by: billium01 Aug 26 2015, 09:21 PM
Found this on craigslist. Looks pretty solid. First 914 and I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with it yet. Almost bought Scott Mann's orange peel a couple of years ago. Thinking I might do an 8 or a subie 6.
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Posted by: 914Sixer Aug 26 2015, 09:26 PM
You got to start somewhere. Hopefully not too many of the rust worms.
Posted by: billium01 Aug 26 2015, 09:49 PM
You got to start somewhere. Hopefully not too many of the rust worms.
Yep! Me too! Found some in the rain gutter around the hood so far and a little in the hellhole. Battery tray is rusted. Got to dive deeper to see what I really have. After seeing some of the cars on here and how much rust people have dealt with I'm pretty confident just about anything can be fixed. I've got Tig welder and a good size shop. Let the games begin!
Posted by: RobW Aug 26 2015, 09:51 PM
Looks like a winner. Have fun! 
Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 26 2015, 09:51 PM
Terrific! 
With an attitude like that you are going to have a lot of fun and get into some trouble. Fun will be had by all. Welcome again.
Posted by: rick 918-S Aug 26 2015, 10:57 PM
Posted by: mgp4591 Aug 27 2015, 12:30 AM
Buckle up, you're in for a fun ride and 
Posted by: sb914 Aug 27 2015, 06:47 AM
nice deal. I paid more for just my bumpers 
Posted by: Dave_Darling Aug 27 2015, 09:30 AM
If you can, I suggest driving it for a while with the stock motor. Far too many people buy the car and yank the drivetrain out first thing; they never get to drive it. Even the ones who finish the swap never get to enjoy the car the way it was originally designed, as a low-powered momentum-preserving grin machine.
Try it, you may like it...
--DD
Posted by: 76-914 Aug 27 2015, 09:42 AM
Posted by: Tom_T Aug 27 2015, 10:33 AM
Note Rick's screen name above .... he's the guy who you can talk with about implanting a Porsche 928 V8 in yours, if you want to keep it all Porsche in your resto-mod build!
Cheers!
Tom
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Posted by: cpavlenko Aug 27 2015, 10:38 AM
If you can, I suggest driving it for a while with the stock motor. Far too many people buy the car and yank the drivetrain out first thing; they never get to drive it. Even the ones who finish the swap never get to enjoy the car the way it was originally designed, as a low-powered momentum-preserving grin machine.
Try it, you may like it...
--DD
I'm still daily driving my stock 71 (1.7)
Posted by: Montreal914 Aug 27 2015, 09:03 PM
Just make it run safely, clean it, wax it, and drive it 
and enjoy!
When you want to do something major to it, get another one instead so you can still enjoy your 914. 
Posted by: Beeliner Aug 27 2015, 09:12 PM
Just make it run safely, clean it, wax it, and drive it
and enjoy!When you want to do something major to it, get another one instead so you can still enjoy your 914.
I agree, drive it for a few months then work on it.
Get addicted first, then you are more likely to finish it in a reasonable amount of time.
Posted by: billium01 Aug 28 2015, 12:56 PM
Thanks everyone! Glad to be here. I wish it were ready for the road! I'd happily drive it the way it is. They are great just the way porsche made them but this one, unfortunately, doesn't run in its current incarnation. Not sure I want to spend the money to rebuild it. I appreciate the idea of restoring a car to what the factory envisioned but its all pistons and con rods to me. I just like mechanical things. You go back far enough all cars are related to Otto.
Posted by: Dave_Darling Aug 28 2015, 06:34 PM
That's why I said "if you can". 
Often enough, these are bought with non-running engines ("a little JB weld can fix that hole in the crankcase!") or without drivetrains.
If it doesn't run, then it's a total blank canvas. Have fun with it, just don't let it sit on jack stands too long! These cars like to be driven, and get upset when they aren't.
--DD
Posted by: steuspeed Aug 28 2015, 07:16 PM
I agree with Dave. Clean it up a bit and drive it. More power would be great, but I have more fun just cruising with my gf with the top down. They think it's fast b/c it says PORSCHE down the side. Plenty of pointing, smiles and thumbs up as is.
Posted by: billium01 Aug 28 2015, 09:34 PM
That's why I said "if you can".
Often enough, these are bought with non-running engines ("a little JB weld can fix that hole in the crankcase!") or without drivetrains.If it doesn't run, then it's a total blank canvas. Have fun with it, just don't let it sit on jack stands too long! These cars like to be driven, and get upset when they aren't.
--DD
Gonna dive right in! Just got a Haynes tear down manual in the mail. Thanks Dave
Posted by: boxsterfan Aug 28 2015, 11:19 PM
Congrats! Now lets see pics of the longs and hell hole. 
Posted by: billium01 May 18 2016, 12:29 AM
Here's the concept. 
Posted by: SirAndy May 18 2016, 12:34 AM
This might help:
http://www.eggscollective.org/914visualizer/914_visualizer.html
Posted by: Cuda911 May 18 2016, 01:12 AM
This might help:
http://www.eggscollective.org/914visualizer/914_visualizer.html
Wow!!!! I never saw that visualizer site before. Is it available for other car models?
Posted by: 74ravenna May 18 2016, 03:57 AM
If you can, I suggest driving it for a while with the stock motor. Far too many people buy the car and yank the drivetrain out first thing; they never get to drive it. Even the ones who finish the swap never get to enjoy the car the way it was originally designed, as a low-powered momentum-preserving grin machine.
Try it, you may like it...
--DD
Lots of fun as they are!
Posted by: jrblackbox May 18 2016, 05:15 AM
thats cool! now if i can only lose the hubcaps on the early steelies and paint them black, and change the targa roof to body color!
Posted by: jkb944t May 18 2016, 05:54 AM
This might help:
http://www.eggscollective.org/914visualizer/914_visualizer.html
This is so cool! somehow I never saw this before. Thanks
Jeff B
Posted by: rgalla9146 May 18 2016, 06:01 AM
If you can, I suggest driving it for a while with the stock motor. Far too many people buy the car and yank the drivetrain out first thing; they never get to drive it. Even the ones who finish the swap never get to enjoy the car the way it was originally designed, as a low-powered momentum-preserving grin machine.
Try it, you may like it...
--DD
Totally agree.
Also, by doing so you'll establish the condition (and value) of the original drivetrain should you decide to go forward with the transplant.
Posted by: mepstein May 18 2016, 06:12 AM
This might help:
http://www.eggscollective.org/914visualizer/914_visualizer.html
Wow!!!! I never saw that visualizer site before. Is it available for other car models?
it was custom made for a 914 but i would love one for a 911
Posted by: Reverend Troublemaker May 18 2016, 06:21 AM
That is too cool - thanks for the link!
...and I agree with others - drive it for awhile and enjoy the car. Too many of these stay perpetually on JS for years (and years) during "projects" and upgrades.
Tony
Posted by: billium01 May 18 2016, 08:56 AM
This might help:
http://www.eggscollective.org/914visualizer/914_visualizer.html
Thanks SirAndy!
Posted by: iwanta914-6 May 18 2016, 09:19 AM
That visualizer has been posted so many times, where have you all been that are just now discovering it? lol J/K It is fun to play around with, the jack stand option is a nice touch!
Posted by: billium01 May 18 2016, 09:33 AM
Too late! Already up on blocks. 
Posted by: Andyrew May 18 2016, 09:33 AM
Looks like a great start!
FYI A tig welder is not a good welder for dirty/rusty metal. Be prepared to get or borrow a Mig welder. Much easier to get to difficult to reach and dirty areas.
Posted by: Gmanscott55 May 18 2016, 09:43 AM
Welcome!! Like the rendering. Give some thought to black front and rear hood. Have fun with the build.
I have a subie WRX 2.0 turbo conversion which previous owner had completed by Precision Chassis Works in Phoenix.
Posted by: billium01 May 18 2016, 09:53 AM
The engine is an L33. 5.3 liters 315hp stock. Got a 92mm fast intake and a batwing oil pan. Planning a cam swap and headers. Maybe I'll turbo charge it later like that Kiwi fellow! Boxster 6 speed, done and done, all except flares a cage and a thousand other things. Hot rod! 
Posted by: billium01 May 18 2016, 09:58 AM
Welcome!! Like the rendering. Give some thought to black front and rear hood. Have fun with the build.
I have a subie WRX 2.0 turbo conversion which previous owner had completed by Precision Chassis Works in Phoenix.
Thanks! Planning the car on my computer. Been using rhino 3d for the last 7 years or so for another project in the works. It's a great tool.
I've seen your car lots of times. She's a beauty.
Posted by: billium01 May 18 2016, 10:04 AM
Looks like a great start!
FYI A tig welder is not a good welder for dirty/rusty metal. Be prepared to get or borrow a Mig welder. Much easier to get to difficult to reach and dirty areas.
Thanks! Yeah thought about buying a mig. She's a little rusty but not too bad. Compared to some projects I've seen on here I got very lucky. Front has a little crash damage, rust in the front trunk a little under the battery right rear jack point and the door sill. It was garaged when I found her. Guy had big plans but was moving to a condo. Dough!
Posted by: Reverend Troublemaker May 18 2016, 10:08 AM
You went from acquisition to engine in a matter of a couple weeks? If so, fast moving...
Strongly consider installing some significant reinforcements - if you've come this far, this quickly, you probably already know this but just sayin.
Best of luck.
T
Posted by: billium01 May 18 2016, 01:34 PM
Looks like a great start!
FYI A tig welder is not a good welder for dirty/rusty metal. Be prepared to get or borrow a Mig welder. Much easier to get to difficult to reach and dirty areas.
Thanks! Yeah thought about buying a mig. She's a little rusty but not too bad. Compared to some projects I've seen on here I got very lucky. Front has a little crash damage, rust in the front trunk a little under the battery right rear jack point and the door sill. It was garaged when I found her. Guy had big plans but was moving to a condo. Dough!
Posted by: billium01 May 18 2016, 01:42 PM
You went from acquisition to engine in a matter of a couple weeks? If so, fast moving...
Strongly consider installing some significant reinforcements - if you've come this far, this quickly, you probably already know this but just sayin.
Best of luck.
T
Oh its been awhile since I got her. Remodeling a house too. Was thinking reinforcement wise, I'll put a full cage in it, with tubes triangulation the front and rear. Was thinking those reinforcement kits aka doubling the panel thickness might not be the right way to go. Gonna keep the uni body intact as much as possible. Sorry I'm not making her what she came out of the factory as! I've always wanted to hot rod stuff. Don't worry I won't put Porsche badging on my Chevy motor.
Posted by: Reverend Troublemaker May 18 2016, 01:44 PM
Sounds like a plan...I could care less what kind of badge you put on it. Its your's. Enjoy the build!
Tony
You went from acquisition to engine in a matter of a couple weeks? If so, fast moving...
Strongly consider installing some significant reinforcements - if you've come this far, this quickly, you probably already know this but just sayin.
Best of luck.
T
Oh its been awhile since I got her. Remodeling a house too. Was thinking reinforcement wise, I'll put a full cage in it, with tubes triangulation the front and rear. Was thinking those reinforcement kits aka doubling the panel thickness might not be the right way to go. Gonna keep the uni body intact as much as possible. Sorry I'm not making her what she came out of the factory as! I've always wanted to hot rod stuff. Don't worry I won't put Porsche badging on my Chevy motor.
Posted by: pete000 May 18 2016, 02:11 PM
Nice find and a great price !
Posted by: billium01 May 22 2016, 07:06 PM
Got the engine out today. 
Posted by: billium01 May 22 2016, 07:08 PM
looks pretty good in there
Posted by: billium01 May 22 2016, 07:13 PM
A little rust down there. Now to do some cleanup 
ps can't rotate that pic to be upright
Posted by: billium01 Jun 8 2016, 08:46 PM
got some nice bits in the mail the other day
kennedy engineering LS1 to boxster trans. Work of art!
Posted by: billium01 Jun 8 2016, 08:48 PM
nice looking clutch from kennedy too
Posted by: billium01 Jun 25 2016, 09:49 PM
Anyone know who makes this front valance?
Posted by: Andyrew Jun 26 2016, 07:33 AM
Thats a hellova clutch/flywheel package!
I think that front lip is custom.
Posted by: poorsche914 Jun 26 2016, 10:41 AM
Looks like a 916-style front bumper with added orange lenses as turn signals.
Posted by: billium01 Jun 26 2016, 02:16 PM
Thats a hellova clutch/flywheel package!
I think that front lip is custom.
Thanks Andyrew! Yea they do have some nice stuff over at kennedy. Yea might be a custom job. Looking for a simple style front valance/bumper with an air inlet and air dam. haven't found anything to fit the bill yet. This ones close though.
Posted by: billium01 Jun 26 2016, 02:20 PM
Looks like a 916-style front bumper with added orange lenses as turn signals.
Thanks poorsche914! you might be right! Like the name btw haha
Posted by: green914 Jun 26 2016, 06:22 PM
Posted by: get off my lawn Jun 28 2016, 05:32 PM
Here's what I suggest, (not the fun way):
Get it running, clean it up a little, and sit on it for a couple years and dump it for big profit.
oops, too late.
Posted by: billium01 Jun 29 2016, 11:57 PM
Here's what I suggest, (not the fun way):
Get it running, clean it up a little, and sit on it for a couple years and dump it for big profit.
oops, too late.
oh its getting cleaned up!
Posted by: billium01 Oct 25 2016, 03:58 PM
Found this build table on Craigslist for 175 bucks. 1800 pounds of government issued reinforced flatness. 
Posted by: Garold Shaffer Oct 25 2016, 05:07 PM
You went from acquisition to engine in a matter of a couple weeks? If so, fast moving...
Strongly consider installing some significant reinforcements - if you've come this far, this quickly, you probably already know this but just sayin.
Best of luck.
T
Oh its been awhile since I got her. Remodeling a house too. Was thinking reinforcement wise, I'll put a full cage in it, with tubes triangulation the front and rear. Was thinking those reinforcement kits aka doubling the panel thickness might not be the right way to go. Gonna keep the uni body intact as much as possible. Sorry I'm not making her what she came out of the factory as! I've always wanted to hot rod stuff. Don't worry I won't put Porsche badging on my Chevy motor.
Building a street car or track car? If street, not a real fan of roll cages in street cars unless you plan to wear a helmet.
Oh - nice find. Whatever you do enjoy it!
Posted by: Jamie Oct 25 2016, 06:54 PM
Not too sure what the problem is with your foggy pics, maybe fingerprints on the camera lens? 
Posted by: Andyrew Oct 25 2016, 08:20 PM
Not too sure what the problem is with your foggy pics, maybe fingerprints on the camera lens?
Yup, Always clean your phone camera before taking a picture
Posted by: billium01 Oct 25 2016, 08:30 PM
Not too sure what the problem is with your foggy pics, maybe fingerprints on the camera lens?
Yup, Always clean your phone camera before taking a picture
Yea there's dried up beer behind my lens. Phone was supposedly water proof. Not so much.
Posted by: billium01 Oct 25 2016, 08:32 PM
You went from acquisition to engine in a matter of a couple weeks? If so, fast moving...
Strongly consider installing some significant reinforcements - if you've come this far, this quickly, you probably already know this but just sayin.
Best of luck.
T
Oh its been awhile since I got her. Remodeling a house too. Was thinking reinforcement wise, I'll put a full cage in it, with tubes triangulation the front and rear. Was thinking those reinforcement kits aka doubling the panel thickness might not be the right way to go. Gonna keep the uni body intact as much as possible. Sorry I'm not making her what she came out of the factory as! I've always wanted to hot rod stuff. Don't worry I won't put Porsche badging on my Chevy motor.
Building a street car or track car? If street, not a real fan of roll cages in street cars unless you plan to wear a helmet.
Oh - nice find. Whatever you do enjoy it!
I know what you mean. Gonna pull double duty. Probably pad the cage really well.
Thanks so much!
Posted by: billium01 Oct 25 2016, 08:34 PM
Not too sure what the problem is with your foggy pics, maybe fingerprints on the camera lens?
yea my lens is proper f#@$ed. Cant get my computer to recognize my sd card either.
Posted by: billium01 Feb 8 2019, 04:18 PM
I found a local shop here in Spokane to get this car back on track. Too cold to work in my garage. Derek and Bryce over at "OCD Customs" are doing an excellent job on the metal work.
https://ocdcustomcars.com/
Posted by: ValcoOscar Feb 8 2019, 04:31 PM
Looks like it's in good hands 
Oscar
Posted by: Mayne Feb 8 2019, 04:53 PM
I found a local shop here in Spokane to get this car back on track. Too cold to work in my garage. Derek and Bryce over at "OCD Customs" are doing an excellent job on the metal work.
https://ocdcustomcars.com/
Wow, those seem like some impeccably installed flares! Looks like it's going to be a great project.
Posted by: billium01 Feb 8 2019, 05:51 PM
I found a local shop here in Spokane to get this car back on track. Too cold to work in my garage. Derek and Bryce over at "OCD Customs" are doing an excellent job on the metal work.
https://ocdcustomcars.com/
Wow, those seem like some impeccably installed flares! Looks like it's going to be a great project.
yeah they got quite a bag of tricks to get the metal where they want it. He was using an angle grinder with some kind of special wheel (its in the picture) that heated up the metal. Then they'd quench it with water to move it around. Like sword smiths making a blade!
Posted by: 914-300Hemi Feb 8 2019, 08:05 PM
Looks great.
Posted by: jmitro Feb 9 2019, 03:29 AM
Wow, those seem like some impeccably installed flares! Looks like it's going to be a great project.
+1. amazing!
Posted by: Krieger Feb 9 2019, 04:31 AM
Really nice work! Got some video of them doing the fancy metalwork?
Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 9 2019, 07:49 AM
Outstanding metal work. If you are building to that quality, this is going to be one hell of a fun project to watch come together and a great car when finished. Good luck.
Posted by: billium01 Feb 13 2019, 02:20 AM
Really nice work! Got some video of them doing the fancy metalwork?
no video unfortunately.
Posted by: billium01 Feb 13 2019, 02:20 AM
Outstanding metal work. If you are building to that quality, this is going to be one hell of a fun project to watch come together and a great car when finished. Good luck.
thankyou! got lots of cool stuff planned
Posted by: billium01 Feb 15 2019, 07:08 PM
Got all the flares on! Need some first class metal work done on your car I highly recommend these guys. Was gonna attempt this myself but I'm glad I left it up to the professionals. Well worth the investment. 
Posted by: billium01 Feb 15 2019, 07:09 PM
Another shot 
Posted by: billium01 Feb 15 2019, 07:10 PM
These files are too big!
Posted by: billium01 Feb 15 2019, 07:12 PM
Sorry I wasn't able to document the process. 
Posted by: billium01 Feb 15 2019, 07:27 PM
Got some cool bits coming in the mail. Almost the entire front lower trunk area from restoration designs. Got a nice front valance from Patrick motorsports. Ahhh and bigcats recommendation for a radiator too. Fun stuff! 
Posted by: billium01 Feb 15 2019, 07:42 PM
Question.......has anyone ever made a center tunnel for the radiator hoses? Could double as a center console to mount the shifter to. Or maybe just run the cooler water return line through that and run the hot water to the radiator under the passenger side rocker and through the foot well. Trying to not put hoses under the car being that it's gonna be pretty low to the ground.
Posted by: Mayne Feb 15 2019, 11:14 PM
Another shot
Looks amazing! What are you going to do for the rockers?
Posted by: billium01 Feb 16 2019, 12:54 PM
Another shot
Looks amazing! What are you going to do for the rockers?
Thanks! My guys are going to flare the rockers next. I've read it's better to match the flare than buy some read made rocker flares. That front lower valance is a nice piece but turns out it has to be narrowed about an inch or so to match my flares.
Posted by: billium01 Feb 23 2019, 08:18 AM
We've got flare! Amazing how much you can get done when someone else is doing it. Hehe 
Posted by: Krieger Feb 23 2019, 08:38 AM
Really nice work!
Posted by: SirAndy Feb 23 2019, 12:16 PM
Looks like they picked the perfect name for their shop, i can clearly see the OCD in their work!
Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 23 2019, 12:51 PM
^ That looks like nice work!!
See if they can add a way to close off the front of the new rocker, behind the wheel. Might save you some rust (or at least extra baggage in the form of leaves and rocks) down the road.
This is a cool project!
Posted by: billium01 Feb 23 2019, 07:37 PM
Looks like they picked the perfect name for their shop, i can clearly see the OCD in their work!
They're really cool! Glad I found em.
Posted by: billium01 Feb 23 2019, 07:38 PM
^ That looks like nice work!!
See if they can add a way to close off the front of the new rocker, behind the wheel. Might save you some rust (or at least extra baggage in the form of leaves and rocks) down the road.
This is a cool project!
Top tip. Thanks so much!
Posted by: Andyrew Feb 24 2019, 08:47 AM
Those flares and rocker work is spot on!!!
Posted by: ctc911ctc Feb 24 2019, 12:21 PM
If you can, I suggest driving it for a while with the stock motor. Far too many people buy the car and yank the drivetrain out first thing; they never get to drive it. Even the ones who finish the swap never get to enjoy the car the way it was originally designed, as a low-powered momentum-preserving grin machine.
Try it, you may like it...
--DD
BUMP
Posted by: Jonathan Livesay Feb 24 2019, 12:28 PM
If you can, I suggest driving it for a while with the stock motor. Far too many people buy the car and yank the drivetrain out first thing; they never get to drive it. Even the ones who finish the swap never get to enjoy the car the way it was originally designed, as a low-powered momentum-preserving grin machine.
Try it, you may like it...
--DD
BUMP
I think he has progressed far beyond that point.
Posted by: billium01 Mar 2 2019, 09:14 PM
More progress on the car! On to the front trunk. 
Posted by: billium01 Mar 12 2019, 11:13 PM
Here's some meat and potatos from the front trunk rebuild portion. 
Posted by: billium01 Mar 14 2019, 07:04 PM
Sorry these photos aren't in chronological order. Some are from the dismantling I did 2 years ago and some are from today. Trunk is coming together. There was quite a bit of rust and some crash damage too. 
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Posted by: billium01 Mar 14 2019, 07:34 PM
Posted by: Mayne Mar 14 2019, 08:24 PM
Looking great. This is going to be a nice car!
Posted by: billium01 Mar 15 2019, 05:51 AM
Looking great. This is going to be a nice car!
Thanks!
Posted by: billium01 Mar 15 2019, 06:17 AM
If you can, I suggest driving it for a while with the stock motor. Far too many people buy the car and yank the drivetrain out first thing; they never get to drive it. Even the ones who finish the swap never get to enjoy the car the way it was originally designed, as a low-powered momentum-preserving grin machine.
Try it, you may like it...
--DD
BUMP
I've driven them both before. Almost bought Scott from renegade hybrids Orange peal a few years back. I drove a stock 1.7 machine too. They were both great! I like anything with an engine. I understand the idea of keeping things the way they were envisioned from the original idea. I like the idea of building unique things too. It's all conrods and poppet valves to me. Imagine a world without the Cobra. The car could easily be put back to all Porsche if anyone ever wanted to.
Posted by: billium01 Apr 9 2019, 12:15 AM
the car was more of a basket case than I originally thought
Car was placed on an exceptionally big heavy welding table and leveled. They added fixtures for all the critical points, suspension, engine mount, wheel hub etc...and started cutting out the bad. Thankfully the replacement metal that is not offered as new pieces (engine mount, and outer suspension console) were in good shape. Those were sent off to the sandblaster and positioned with the new metal. Challenger now is to get the inner wheel house piece into place and weld it all back together again. Thanks for looking!
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Posted by: billium01 Apr 13 2019, 05:03 PM
Posted by: billium01 Apr 13 2019, 05:04 PM
Getting her buttoned back up again.
Posted by: billium01 Apr 13 2019, 05:08 PM
inner long was a little rusty. Going to por-15 this area. It'll have a new sill threshold and outer long metal. Getting there!
Posted by: tygaboy Apr 13 2019, 05:09 PM
You already know this but:
That is a series of repairs done right!
Looks like someone is having fun building that car.
Keep the pics coming - we can't wait to see this one as you bring it back to life.
Posted by: billium01 Apr 13 2019, 05:10 PM
Saw this V8 914 at the speed and custom show in Spokane. Very nice!
Posted by: billium01 Apr 13 2019, 05:30 PM
You already know this but:
That is a series of repairs done right!
Looks like someone is having fun building that car.
Keep the pics coming - we can't wait to see this one as you bring it back to life.
Thanks Tygaboy! Man I've really enjoyed watching all the cool things you're doing to your car. The real credit for mine goes to a fellow named Bryce. He's been putting his blood sweat and skills to work on this thing for me going on 9 weeks now. He's been doing hotrod and custom body work for 14 years and it definitely shows! Glad I found this shop.
Posted by: billium01 Apr 13 2019, 05:33 PM
I think of all the spoilers I've seen the original duck tail looks the best. Beautiful car. Looks like a ton of fun.
Posted by: billium01 Apr 13 2019, 05:35 PM
What a nice rad setup!
Posted by: billium01 Apr 13 2019, 05:51 PM
Posted by: billium01 Apr 13 2019, 05:55 PM
looks a little dreamy huh? Yep broken lense cover on my phone.
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Posted by: billium01 Apr 27 2019, 08:46 PM
All buttoned up! Time to check the other long. Hope its better than this one. Car is getting expensive. Heard something the other day....the cheapest Porsche is the most expensive porsche you'll ever buy. hahah
Posted by: billium01 Apr 28 2019, 12:37 PM
Got a nice low mileage boxster S transaxle off of ebay. Supplier seemed pretty reputable. Been burned on ebay before. Decided to go with a little more wallop in the engine department too. Got an LS6 out of a Cadillac CTSV.
Posted by: Tdskip Apr 28 2019, 05:08 PM
Just slightly more power
Posted by: get off my lawn Apr 29 2019, 04:15 PM
If you can, I suggest driving it for a while with the stock motor. Far too many people buy the car and yank the drivetrain out first thing; they never get to drive it. Even the ones who finish the swap never get to enjoy the car the way it was originally designed, as a low-powered momentum-preserving grin machine.
Try it, you may like it...
--DD
I'm still daily driving my stock 71 (1.7)I drove a stock 1.7 for two years after high school, loved it.
So when I got back into 914s nearly 20 years later, naturally I went with a turbocharged 2 liter, and then a 350 chebby in the next one.
Posted by: billium01 May 4 2019, 09:30 AM
Here's the next step. Messed around with a few different designs and looked at, I think, every scheme for keeping the air moving other people have done. Settled on this one. Seems to work exceptionally well and no need to cut the fenders. 
Here's his car in action. https://youtu.be/lqFlQKnv_r0
Posted by: billium01 May 4 2019, 09:42 AM
Decided to go back to a more old school look with an original front valance. Planning on using an oil cooler air scoop to cool the radiator. Many folks have reported success with that setup. Happy to say the other long had no holes in it. Looks like I have a rust free car!
Posted by: billium01 May 4 2019, 09:59 AM
After many years shes almost back to a roller.
Posted by: billium01 May 4 2019, 10:09 AM
Cheap 5x130mm bolt pattern wheels are hard to come by. Just to get her back on her feet I found some Ram Promaster wheels that barely fit. Only 45 bucks a piece too. Gonna need some spacers once the tires are mounted though. Have little idea of what the final wheel tire combo will need to be. The back end is still 4 lug.
Posted by: billium01 May 4 2019, 10:54 AM
After finding another angle of this guys race car I'm now wondering if my radiator exhaust will be big enough. Any thoughts?
Posted by: billium01 May 8 2019, 09:38 AM
Got a vent for the radiator. The grate will be removable. Maybe put a less restrictive mesh in there, or nothing at all. Got some really good info from a book "Tune to Win" on radiator ducting.
Posted by: billium01 May 8 2019, 09:47 AM
The book said to use a straight duct for the inlet when canting the radiator at an angle. Baffling in the duct will be tight and the nozzle will be of the convergent variety. The exhaust has a gurney flap of sorts to make a low pressure behind the radiator. The book also warns of knife edge inlets and the turbulent flows behind them. Can't wait to see if it works!
Posted by: tygaboy May 8 2019, 10:33 AM
That looks really nice!
I'm in the process of designing a hood vent for my LS build and I'm curious to know if you calculated the area of the hood vent opening and accounted for the non-open space of the louver panel.
I'm not challenging the design, just trying to learn as I understand you want to end up with more open area in exit than the intake opening.
Maybe others with knowledge ( @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=172 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=209 ) can chime in?
Again, it looks fantastic! You're going to have quite the hot rod there. Can't wait to see it come together.
Posted by: sixnotfour May 8 2019, 10:42 AM
Nice !! the shop down the road from me does a bunch of LS swaps,,
they went LS fest in Vegas last weekend there was a red 914 autcrossing
Posted by: Andyrew May 8 2019, 11:57 AM
That looks really nice!
I'm in the process of designing a hood vent for my LS build and I'm curious to know if you calculated the area of the hood vent opening and accounted for the non-open space of the louver panel.
I'm not challenging the design, just trying to learn as I understand you want to end up with more open area in exit than the intake opening.
Maybe others with knowledge ( @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=172 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=209 ) can chime in?
Again, it looks fantastic! You're going to have quite the hot rod there. Can't wait to see it come together.
Hood vent is far more efficient at expelling hot air than going through the fenders.
The math suggests you need 50% more outlet size than inlet size.
How big is your radiator?
Posted by: billium01 May 8 2019, 02:58 PM
That looks really nice!
I'm in the process of designing a hood vent for my LS build and I'm curious to know if you calculated the area of the hood vent opening and accounted for the non-open space of the louver panel.
I'm not challenging the design, just trying to learn as I understand you want to end up with more open area in exit than the intake opening.
Maybe others with knowledge ( @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=172 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=209 ) can chime in?
Again, it looks fantastic! You're going to have quite the hot rod there. Can't wait to see it come together.
Thanks a bunch! No I didn't do any calculations for the hood exhaust. The location seemed to fit between the hood structure underneath while still maximizing size as well. My metal guy said he's seen lots of hoods go wonky after changing underlying structure. The grill is just for aesthetics but will possibly end up coming out so as not to restrict air flow. Might see about making the gurney flap bigger too. I'm sure it'll take some fiddling. Somebody in a later post mentioned the exit should be 50% bigger than the intake. I'll see about measuring the exhaust area. Today I found an old school lower valance from Erik at carquip. They are super nice btw. Anyways my guys are going to make the opening for the radiator later this week. I'll definitely post some more. Thanks again! Curious to see what you will come up with!
Posted by: billium01 May 8 2019, 03:08 PM
That looks really nice!
I'm in the process of designing a hood vent for my LS build and I'm curious to know if you calculated the area of the hood vent opening and accounted for the non-open space of the louver panel.
I'm not challenging the design, just trying to learn as I understand you want to end up with more open area in exit than the intake opening.
Maybe others with knowledge ( @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=172 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=209 ) can chime in?
Again, it looks fantastic! You're going to have quite the hot rod there. Can't wait to see it come together.
Hood vent is far more efficient at expelling hot air than going through the fenders.
The math suggests you need 50% more outlet size than inlet size.
How big is your radiator?
Thanks! my radiator is an AFCO 80133N. The core is 22.25" wide 15.75" tall and 2.25 inches thick. Double pass radiator with the cap deleted. Thanks for the info too. Going to look into the underlying math for the rest of the design.
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/AFCO-80133N-Double-Pass-Racing-Radiator-16-Inch-Height-1-25-Inch-Inlet,39512.html
Posted by: billium01 May 8 2019, 03:25 PM
Nice !! the shop down the road from me does a bunch of LS swaps,,
they went LS fest in Vegas last weekend there was a red 914 autcrossing
Very cool. Thanks! Cant wait to get it out onto a track.
Posted by: ConeDodger May 9 2019, 08:04 AM
Just noticed this. Wow!
Posted by: jd74914 May 9 2019, 12:04 PM
That looks really nice!
I'm in the process of designing a hood vent for my LS build and I'm curious to know if you calculated the area of the hood vent opening and accounted for the non-open space of the louver panel.
I'm not challenging the design, just trying to learn as I understand you want to end up with more open area in exit than the intake opening.
Maybe others with knowledge ( @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=172 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=209 ) can chime in?
Again, it looks fantastic! You're going to have quite the hot rod there. Can't wait to see it come together.
Hood vent is far more efficient at expelling hot air than going through the fenders.
The math suggests you need 50% more outlet size than inlet size.
How big is your radiator?
Thanks! my radiator is an AFCO 80133N. The core is 22.25" wide 15.75" tall and 2.25 inches thick. Double pass radiator with the cap deleted. Thanks for the info too. Going to look into the underlying math for the rest of the design.
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/AFCO-80133N-Double-Pass-Racing-Radiator-16-Inch-Height-1-25-Inch-Inlet,39512.html
I've never gotten where people get the 50% bigger outlet thing from. Radiator outlet duct sizing is a somewhat contentious topic for a lot of aerodynamics engineers even. Lots of disagreement over whether is should be huge or a converging duct (vs. radiator size). Huge is old school, smaller is new school. The overall idea is you want lower pressure on the outlet-huge potentially gets you higher dump-to-ambient efficiency, smaller has lower pressure due to flow velocity. Keeping the same velocity throughout would mean a 33% larger duct than inlet.
Car progress looks great!
Did you make the solid (surface?) model?
Posted by: billium01 May 9 2019, 02:03 PM
That looks really nice!
I'm in the process of designing a hood vent for my LS build and I'm curious to know if you calculated the area of the hood vent opening and accounted for the non-open space of the louver panel.
I'm not challenging the design, just trying to learn as I understand you want to end up with more open area in exit than the intake opening.
Maybe others with knowledge ( @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=172 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=209 ) can chime in?
Again, it looks fantastic! You're going to have quite the hot rod there. Can't wait to see it come together.
Hood vent is far more efficient at expelling hot air than going through the fenders.
The math suggests you need 50% more outlet size than inlet size.
How big is your radiator?
Thanks! my radiator is an AFCO 80133N. The core is 22.25" wide 15.75" tall and 2.25 inches thick. Double pass radiator with the cap deleted. Thanks for the info too. Going to look into the underlying math for the rest of the design.
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/AFCO-80133N-Double-Pass-Racing-Radiator-16-Inch-Height-1-25-Inch-Inlet,39512.html
I've never gotten where people get the 50% bigger outlet thing from. Radiator outlet duct sizing is a somewhat contentious topic for a lot of aerodynamics engineers even. Lots of disagreement over whether is should be huge or a converging duct (vs. radiator size). Huge is old school, smaller is new school. The overall idea is you want lower pressure on the outlet-huge potentially gets you higher dump-to-ambient efficiency, smaller has lower pressure due to flow velocity. Keeping the same velocity throughout would mean a 33% larger duct than inlet.
Car progress looks great!
Did you make the solid (surface?) model?No I bought the model and know enough to tweak things in Rhino 3d. In the books I've read little is mentioned on duct sizing. Yes they do say have a lower pressure creating flap of some kind at the exhaust. From what I know about aerodynamics air through a beurnouli tube should have constant flow with the speed of the air increasing and pressure decreasing when the air is made to go through the narrowed throat. I wonder if the gurney flap accomplishes the same thing as upsizing the duct exhaust. The guys at renegade said they cut 4x6 holes in the wheel wells at a minimum to get the radiator to flow sufficiently. I'm thinking having a channeled duct with baffleing would be a better and more efficient approach. Like how it looks too. My duct in the hood measures 4.5" by 23.5 inches. Looking at making the inlet the right size now. Thanks for the info.
Posted by: billium01 May 9 2019, 02:06 PM
Some tilton pedals will be nice for the quick heel toe.
Posted by: billium01 May 9 2019, 02:38 PM
It appears the 911 rack and pinion input shaft is a bit shorter than the 914. Is that what's going on here? There isn't enough spline to attach the u joint to. Always heard the 911 would bolt right up to a 914 and that the front suspensions were interchangable. 
PS not sure why my pics are sideways. If you click on them they show right side up.
Posted by: billium01 May 12 2019, 05:59 PM
So gonna stick with this radiator exhaust minus the grate. Going to open up the bumper and lower front valance for the intake and form the duct work out of aluminum. The radiator is going to mount to the down bars via some tabs and triangulated tubes. More to come.
Posted by: billium01 May 12 2019, 06:49 PM
Got one of the rear hubs that work well for a 5 lug conversion with higher horsepower. It's a rear hub off a 1969 through 1973 Porsche 911. These hubs can be identified in part by the flat flange on the stud side of the hub which has the threads. Not sure if there's any other differences. They are getting harder to find all the time from what I hear. Parts Heaven sent me this one and some bearings as well. Was also able to stop by Carquip in Boulder CO the other day and pick up an old school front valance. Both those outfits have super nice people and are good places to source parts. Just keeping an eye out for another hub.
Posted by: Luke M May 13 2019, 09:39 AM
It appears the 911 rack and pinion input shaft is a bit shorter than the 914. Is that what's going on here? There isn't enough spline to attach the u joint to. Always heard the 911 would bolt right up to a 914 and that the front suspensions were interchangable.
PS not sure why my pics are sideways. If you click on them they show right side up.
The 911 racks (69-89) will bolt up to the 914. The steering shaft from 911 to 914 are different. At least by the part numbers they are..
914 : 91434721000
911 : 90134721004
You may need to pull the rack to swap the shaft out for a 914 one.
Posted by: billium01 May 13 2019, 09:52 AM
It appears the 911 rack and pinion input shaft is a bit shorter than the 914. Is that what's going on here? There isn't enough spline to attach the u joint to. Always heard the 911 would bolt right up to a 914 and that the front suspensions were interchangable.
PS not sure why my pics are sideways. If you click on them they show right side up.
The 911 racks (69-89) will bolt up to the 914. The steering shaft from 911 to 914 are different. At least by the part numbers they are..
914 : 91434721000
911 : 90134721004
You may need to pull the rack to swap the shaft out for a 914 one.
Thanks! I found this thread on 914world too. Says in addition to input shaft length being different between 914 and 911 racks, the hardness of the 2 rack splines are different as well.
Posted by: billium01 May 14 2019, 08:43 PM
Mocking up the radiator and mounts.
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Posted by: billium01 May 21 2019, 11:49 PM
Been scouring the internet for wheels. Looked at many manufacturers and finding the right size with the appropriate offset, bolt pattern etc has been a challenge. So far I think I like these the best. Might do 17" fronts and 18" rears.
Posted by: dan10101 May 22 2019, 07:52 AM
Been scouring the internet for wheels. Looked at many manufacturers and finding the right size with the appropriate offset, bolt pattern etc has been a challenge. So far I think I like these the best. Might do 17" fronts and 18" rears.
I feel your pain. Still looking for my wheels. But, I like those Momo wheels.
LS6 and Boxster S trans. I'll be watching closely!
Keep up the great work. It's looking to be a very nice build.
Posted by: billium01 May 22 2019, 01:15 PM
Been scouring the internet for wheels. Looked at many manufacturers and finding the right size with the appropriate offset, bolt pattern etc has been a challenge. So far I think I like these the best. Might do 17" fronts and 18" rears.
I feel your pain. Still looking for my wheels. But, I like those Momo wheels.
LS6 and Boxster S trans. I'll be watching closely!
Keep up the great work. It's looking to be a very nice build.
Thanks! Yep type in 5x130 and watch the selection drop sharply. These are called the heritage 6 wheels. The prices are quite resonable too. Lots of history there and look cool. The ratios on the boxster S trans are pretty close. A bigger overall rear tire diameter will give it a little more speed. Always like the look of staggered wheel sizes. It'll give it a slammed raked stance and plenty of ground clearance too.
Posted by: Andyrew May 22 2019, 01:44 PM
Always like the look of staggered wheel sizes. It'll give it a slammed raked stance and plenty of ground clearance too.
Agreed.
Posted by: billium01 May 22 2019, 02:17 PM
Always like the look of staggered wheel sizes. It'll give it a slammed raked stance and plenty of ground clearance too.
Agreed.
Looks awesome! Is that your car?
Posted by: billium01 May 22 2019, 02:21 PM
Posted by: dan10101 May 22 2019, 05:48 PM
Nice !! the shop down the road from me does a bunch of LS swaps,,
they went LS fest in Vegas last weekend there was a red 914 autcrossing
Not mine. but very nice.
https://www.lsfest.com/porsche-914-ls-seat-time-ls-fest-west/
A goal of mine is to make it to LS Fest.
Mine also has the hood vent.
it seems to work very well.
Posted by: billium01 May 22 2019, 09:34 PM
Nice !! the shop down the road from me does a bunch of LS swaps,,
they went LS fest in Vegas last weekend there was a red 914 autcrossing
Not mine. but very nice.
https://www.lsfest.com/porsche-914-ls-seat-time-ls-fest-west/
A goal of mine is to make it to LS Fest.
Mine also has the hood vent.
it seems to work very well.
LS fest sounds interesting. What a great motor. Like your hood duct
Posted by: billium01 May 22 2019, 09:44 PM
So the metal piece on the hood is to help retain it's shape as the final welding is completed. Heat is the enemy. The rear valance has been reshaped to delete the exhaust pipe cutout and blended into the flare.
Posted by: billium01 May 23 2019, 10:19 PM
Time to clean this lump up.
Posted by: billium01 May 26 2019, 12:02 PM
All welded up. Guys said there were some small defects in the hood from the heat of welding. A hammer a dolly will take care of it though. So all that's left for them to do is flare the front valance and duct the radiator. Get her back after that!
Posted by: tygaboy May 26 2019, 01:04 PM
Great job on the hood vent. That's not an easy bit of fabrication or welding.
Really, really impressive. 
Posted by: horizontally-opposed May 26 2019, 01:15 PM
All welded up. Guys said there were some small defects in the hood from the heat of welding. A hammer a dolly will take care of it though. So all that's left for them to do is flare the front valance and duct the radiator. Get her back after that!
Really nice looking hood vent—complements the 914's simple lines, and reminds me of some of the great racing hood vents of all time.
Suspect this cancels a fair bit of lift at the front, as well. The much smaller versions seen at the nose of GT3s, GT2s, and GT4s are very effective. I'm sure they are wind-tunnel optimized, but I wonder which placement is preferable? I am guessing yours, which would delete the only trunk in modern Porsche sports cars have.
Quick thought: Now is the time to ace the antenna hole if you want to...though maybe you've thought of that long ago?
Posted by: billium01 May 26 2019, 09:21 PM
All welded up. Guys said there were some small defects in the hood from the heat of welding. A hammer a dolly will take care of it though. So all that's left for them to do is flare the front valance and duct the radiator. Get her back after that!
Really nice looking hood vent—complements the 914's simple lines, and reminds me of some of the great racing hood vents of all time.
Suspect this cancels a fair bit of lift at the front, as well. The much smaller versions seen at the nose of GT3s, GT2s, and GT4s are very effective. I'm sure they are wind-tunnel optimized, but I wonder which placement is preferable? I am guessing yours, which would delete the only trunk in modern Porsche sports cars have.
Quick thought: Now is the time to ace the antenna hole if you want to...though maybe you've thought of that long ago?
Thank you, yeah I think it will probably help out in the down force arena. Have to get her out on the track see what happens. Haven't even noticed the antenna yet. That's a good idea though. Wasn't planning on having a radio.
Posted by: horizontally-opposed May 27 2019, 01:40 PM
Thank you, yeah I think it will probably help out in the down force arena. Have to get her out on the track see what happens. Haven't even noticed the antenna yet. That's a good idea though. Wasn't planning on having a radio.
Three paint jobs later, I see these cars differently—as in what to do/not to do and when.
This is the stage to question every hole or bracket on the car, and the stage where I aced the antenna on paint job #2. Front of the car is that much cleaner, and who listens to FM anyway? (when you can plug a smartphone into an audio system, if you have one, or just get news/traffic on the phone)
Other hole to consider removing is for the trunk button. I got rid of mine as I had to weld up a bunch of holes from a Porsche reflector and planned to pop a new hole in. Never ended up putting it in...as I had a remote release thanks to the reflector and liked the clean look—though it was a bit too clean for me until I added a Euro emblem. YMMV, but it's nice to have choices, and pre- and post-paint choices differ significantly!
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Posted by: billium01 May 27 2019, 11:55 PM
Thank you, yeah I think it will probably help out in the down force arena. Have to get her out on the track see what happens. Haven't even noticed the antenna yet. That's a good idea though. Wasn't planning on having a radio.
Three paint jobs later, I see these cars differently—as in what to do/not to do and when.
This is the stage to question every hole or bracket on the car, and the stage where I aced the antenna on paint job #2. Front of the car is that much cleaner, and who listens to FM anyway? (when you can plug a smartphone into an audio system, if you have one, or just get news/traffic on the phone)
Other hole to consider removing is for the trunk button. I got rid of mine as I had to weld up a bunch of holes from a Porsche reflector and planned to pop a new hole in. Never ended up putting it in...as I had a remote release thanks to the reflector and liked the clean look—though it was a bit too clean for me until I added a Euro emblem. YMMV, but it's nice to have choices, and pre- and post-paint choices differ significantly!
Hey thanks for the top tip. I'll definitely have a look at cleaning her up. The guys doing the welding are big on details like that. Thanks again.
Posted by: billium01 Jun 1 2019, 01:48 PM
Got her back! Rust free and ready to go.
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Posted by: tygaboy Jun 1 2019, 03:25 PM
That.
Looks.
GREAT!
Gonna be very cool, that's for sure.
Posted by: billium01 Jun 1 2019, 10:10 PM
That.
Looks.
GREAT!
Gonna be very cool, that's for sure.
Thank you!
Posted by: billium01 Jun 3 2019, 02:20 AM
A little simple green cleaned her up nicely.
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