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Posted by: MikeM Sep 4 2015, 04:10 PM

Hi all...I have a 2 part question that hopefully someone can help me with.

1. It seems I can't tighten the front wheel bearings quite enough to get to the "tightness" that I want. The adjuster doesn't want to turn in any more and I don't want to force it. Is this an indication of not enough grease in the bearings?

2. I have the front wheels off the car. When I spin the hub and rotor back and forth I get a slight knock when the rotor starts and stops. I can really feel it in the strut also.
Is this normal? Am I explaining this properly? It is not wheel bearing slop.

Thanks,
Mike

Posted by: Dave_Darling Sep 4 2015, 05:55 PM

1- The "book" spec is: Tight enough that you can just move the washer behind it with a screwdriver. (Yes, that's actually what it says.) I'm pretty sure you should not be able to run out of threads, unless you're missing the washer or maybe have the wrong one in there?

2- I can't tell exactly what you mean. Do you mean when you spin the hub as in the wheel is rolling down the road? Or do you mean rotating it around the strut, as in the steering wheel is being turned?

--DD

Posted by: MikeM Sep 4 2015, 06:01 PM

Hi Dave...

1.It does seem like I've run out of adjustment. The washers are there and the screwdriver method is what I'm using.

2. Like it's going down the road.If I hold the hub/rotor in 2 hands and rock it (turn it)
back and forth.
Mike

Posted by: MikeM Sep 5 2015, 08:07 AM

Any ideas???
Mike

Posted by: JawjaPorsche Sep 5 2015, 08:27 AM

Is it possible you have wrong wheel bearings? Just asking.

Posted by: MikeM Sep 5 2015, 08:43 AM

It is possible I suppose. I would have to install new bearings to find out!!
Thanks.

Posted by: RobW Sep 5 2015, 08:51 AM

I don't know, but what you are describing isn't right. The proper parts should go together fine and be adjustable.

Posted by: RobW Sep 5 2015, 08:51 AM

Maybe its camera time? (post pictures)

Posted by: JawjaPorsche Sep 5 2015, 08:53 AM

QUOTE(MikeM @ Sep 5 2015, 10:43 AM) *

It is possible I suppose. I would have to install new bearings to find out!!
Thanks.



Not nessarily. Just compare your bearings to a new one. You can do this at a store without buying. Not first time FLAPS gave you the wrong part.

Posted by: MikeM Sep 5 2015, 09:28 AM

RobW...good idea. Is it possible to post video?
Mike

Posted by: Jetsetsurfshop Sep 5 2015, 11:37 AM

QUOTE(MikeM @ Sep 4 2015, 02:10 PM) *

Hi all...I have a 2 part question that hopefully someone can help me with.

1. It seems I can't tighten the front wheel bearings quite enough to get to the "tightness" that I want. The adjuster doesn't want to turn in any more and I don't want to force it. Is this an indication of not enough grease in the bearings?

2. I have the front wheels off the car. When I spin the hub and rotor back and forth I get a slight knock when the rotor starts and stops. I can really feel it in the strut also.
Is this normal? Am I explaining this properly? It is not wheel bearing slop.

Thanks,
Mike



1. Did you just redo your bearings?

Posted by: MikeM Sep 5 2015, 11:42 AM

Nope. Not sure when they were done.

Posted by: Jetsetsurfshop Sep 5 2015, 11:48 AM

What made you remove the grease cap to check if the hub was lose?

Was there anything in the cap? Water? Dirt? Metal??

Posted by: mrfourteen Sep 5 2015, 11:54 AM

Add a washer and see if it will get tight.

Posted by: stugray Sep 5 2015, 12:13 PM

Can you tighten the nut enough that you cannot move the washer with a screwdriver?

If the answer is YES then you have enough threads.

Posted by: MikeM Sep 5 2015, 12:14 PM

Nothing in the cap. I just wanted to make sure the adjustment was correct.
Mike

Posted by: Jetsetsurfshop Sep 5 2015, 12:36 PM

Are you missing the washer?

Posted by: MikeM Sep 5 2015, 02:24 PM

Any ideas on the clunk when turning the rotor back and forth?
I can really feel it in the strut with my hand.
Mike

Posted by: Dave_Darling Sep 5 2015, 05:06 PM

Are you sure it's in the hub/spindle joint? I know that some cars have had loose ball joints or loose strut tops and produced that clunking feeling, even when the wheel bearings were in spec.

--DD

Posted by: MikeM Sep 5 2015, 05:56 PM

No. I'm not really sure where it's coming from. Strut top is all tight, and ball joints don't seem to have any play but you never know!!
Mike

Posted by: wndsnd Sep 5 2015, 07:23 PM

Strut nut inside the cover?

Not sure on spindle nut.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Sep 5 2015, 09:54 PM

QUOTE(wndsnd @ Sep 5 2015, 06:23 PM) *

Strut nut inside the cover?


That's what I meant, actually. Not the strut top, the upper nut on the housing, under the cover.

--DD

Posted by: MikeM Sep 6 2015, 05:35 PM

Guys...I figured out my "clunk" issue. I removed the brake pads and the noise is gone.
They must move a little as the rotor starts and stops.
Thanks,
Mike

Posted by: rgalla9146 Sep 6 2015, 06:01 PM

Is it( the clunk) on both sides of the car ?
A galled spindle ? meaning a reduced diameter to support the races an the spindle.

Posted by: stugray Sep 6 2015, 10:36 PM

QUOTE(MikeM @ Sep 6 2015, 05:35 PM) *

Guys...I figured out my "clunk" issue. I removed the brake pads and the noise is gone.
They must move a little as the rotor starts and stops.
Thanks,
Mike


Yes this is a noise that drives some people crazy.
If you drive your car forward and repeatedly press the brake, the pads dont move and dont make a noise they are hard against one side of the 'pad cavity'
If you reverse and apply the brake, the first time the brakes will make a noise as the pads move to the opposite end of their "cavity".
backup & stop again - no noise.
Now chage dir & move forward & apply, they will make the noise again on the first press..

Posted by: MikeM Sep 7 2015, 08:30 AM

Thanks....still learning!!!

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