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Posted by: 914guy Jun 9 2003, 03:08 PM

Does anyone have a procedure to grease the wheel bearings? Does it involve removing the caliper, or is there a way to work around having to do that?

Thanks,
~Eric

Posted by: Mueller Jun 9 2003, 03:24 PM

You can only service the smaller outer bearing if you do not remove the caliper. I'd just remove the caliper and get them both out of the way.

Wear gloves!!! That grease is nasty

Posted by: Lawrence914-6 Jun 9 2003, 04:47 PM

A guy nicknamed as Dirty Dan used to sell some very nice blue CV/bearing grease. I haven't heard from him lately, but I bought two quarts, and it was good stuff.

-Rusty
Time for dinner

Posted by: Bleyseng Jun 9 2003, 05:08 PM

Take everything apart and clean all the old grease out. Install with new grease ( I like that red stuff I found) and seals. How old are the bearings? I just as soon replace them if I don't know how old they are since they are cheap.
Seems like most 914's front wheel bearings are set too loose or worn out. They shouldn't go clunk when you push/pull on the tire.

Geoff

Posted by: Lawrence914-6 Jun 9 2003, 05:09 PM

Like the new smilies, Geoff?

Posted by: MarkV Jun 9 2003, 05:17 PM

Posted by: Lawrence914-6 Jun 9 2003, 05:22 PM

Mark,

That one is special for Zois.

Posted by: Bleyseng Jun 9 2003, 05:27 PM

Yeah , I just saw them!
geoff

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 9 2003, 05:28 PM

when i did new rotors, i bough new bearings from FLAPS. used castrol wheel bearing grease.

i like the new smilies

Posted by: tod914 Jun 30 2003, 07:33 AM

what exactley are races? I understand they are in the hub and the wheel bearings pop into them???
Do they need to be replaced when u do wheel bearings? And do the kits include them?

Posted by: 914Timo Jun 30 2003, 07:48 AM

When you do bearings..... oh, I am not sure if I understand, but if you are going to grease them, you dont need to remove them. If you are going to chance the bearings, you have to chance them.

The bearing consist of two rings and balls or rollers between them. The races are the outter ring of the bearing. I hope someone can explain better what the races are.

Kits usually do include them.

Posted by: tod914 Jun 30 2003, 07:52 AM

That makes alittle more sence. I was confused when I read that in the book. The shop book was saying that the races need to be pressed on by a shop. Or is it easy enough to do yourself?? Im totally ignorant on this so bear with me.

Posted by: Part Pricer Jun 30 2003, 08:06 AM

You thought you were confused before...we're just getting started.

Timo is right, the race is the outer ring of the bearing. This is the part that gets seating into the rotor. Can you do it yourself? Sure, with the proper tools and patience.

If you look in the Haynes manual, it tells you to install the races using a "soft drift". When I read that I thought, "WTF is a drift and where do I find a soft one?" Well, when Chris and I did my bearings, he had a piece of aluminium pipe that was the same size as the race. The idea is that you want to use something that is softer than the race to push it into place so that you don't damage the race itself. A couple of smacks on the aluminum pipe with a mallet and the race was in place.

If you've got a shop nearby, it might be worth a couple of bucks to take the rotors and races to them to have them pressed in. You could probably just go around to the side door with a six-pack in hand and get them done real quickly.

Posted by: ArtechnikA Jun 30 2003, 06:15 PM

Dan Petchel - posts to the 914 Rennlist group from time to time, i'm sure you'll find something from him in the archives. New Jersey area, not too far from me, actually. reputed to be one of the better Targa top restorers, i may have to look him up one of these years ...

Posted by: tryan Jul 1 2003, 07:33 AM

leslie tools makes a pretty cool aparatus for greasing up a bearing, but a blob in your palm works just as well. be sure to remove all the old grease from the hub. mixing different types is a no-no. just take a good look at the old races. if they are not pitted or blued, leave them alone.

if you are going to reuse your old bearings, clean them and dry them. put a golf ball size blob in your left hand. scrap the opened/large side of the bearing across the edge of the grease to push it into the cage. when fresh grease come out of every hole you are done.

Posted by: cgnj Jul 1 2003, 08:08 AM

I've met Dan. Friendly and knowlegeable. I stopped by his house Saturday and gave him some small parts for his 73 restoration (neve know when you'll need a favor). He is also having a six prepped for racing. Warning: A visit to his house will result in a serious case of car, tool, and part envy.

Carlos

Posted by: tod914 Jul 1 2003, 08:11 AM

Does he still have that green 6 sitting in his garage?
I was down there 3 years ago for some parts. Nice little setup he has there.

Posted by: cgnj Jul 1 2003, 06:24 PM

Tod,

That's the car that being prepped.

Carlos

Posted by: GWN7 Jul 2 2003, 12:30 PM

When repacking bearings, take them out, wipe off the old grease with rags, hub too. Wash the bearing and hub with solvent. About 1" of solvent in a old coffee can & paint brush will do. let dry, do not use air to blow them dry, just pat and shake in rags. Check for "Blueing" or wear spots. If found, replace. Or load into this gizzmo (about $6 FLAPS).


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Posted by: tod914 Jul 2 2003, 04:30 PM

what is that device that the bearing packer attaches too?

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jul 2 2003, 04:35 PM

a grease gun

Posted by: tryan Jul 2 2003, 04:48 PM

i have one of those tools, but still prefer the palm method. see if http://www.diynet.com/DIY/article/0,2058,10211,00.html helps.