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Posted by: 76-914 Sep 14 2015, 09:11 AM
I need to have two AC fittings welded together. Does anyone have a referral. I can ship to the welder so they don't need to be local but close would be nice (SoCal). TIA, Kent
Posted by: zipedadoo Sep 14 2015, 09:14 AM
I know of a company in Arizona that can do it. AAPAK Phone# 1-602-254-1116
Posted by: stugray Sep 14 2015, 11:13 AM
You know you can solder aluminum?
Are they truly butt joints? No male/female slip like copper fittings?
If butt is the only option, then I wouldn't trust the solder but thought I'd mention it.
Posted by: The Cabinetmaker Sep 14 2015, 11:39 AM
My body man that just painted my car builds custom cars from aluminum. Any competent welder should be able to do it. Call mikes welding in temecula.
Posted by: Tom_T Sep 14 2015, 12:56 PM
QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Sep 14 2015, 10:39 AM)
My body man that just painted my car builds custom cars from aluminum. Any competent welder should be able to do it. Call mikes welding in temecula.
It just needs to be TIG welding with Alum. Many exhaust shops & hot rod welders out there should be able to do it for you Kent.
Jeesh, ole Curt knows folks everywhere!
BTW - Soldering Alum won't be a great structural member, if that's what you're using it for.
Tom
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Posted by: scotty b Sep 14 2015, 01:40 PM
QUOTE(Tom_T @ Sep 14 2015, 10:56 AM)
QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Sep 14 2015, 10:39 AM)
My body man that just painted my car builds custom cars from aluminum. Any competent welder should be able to do it. Call mikes welding in temecula.
BTW - Soldering Alum won't be a great structural member, if that's what you're using it for.
Tom
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I need to have two AC fittings welded together"
R.I.F.
Posted by: stugray Sep 14 2015, 01:51 PM
QUOTE(scotty b @ Sep 14 2015, 01:40 PM)
"
I need to have two AC fittings welded together"
R.I.F.
Understood, BUT if it is an AC (Air conditioning fitting) then it should be a male female slip joint not a butt weld.
If that was the case, then soldering for AC is the accepted method.
Reading does not help if you don't have all the facts. (where's the Psychic emoticon?)
So from now on, if I don't get enough facts to provide a useful answer I will just ignore the question....
And did I not condition my response with "If butt is the only option, then I wouldn't trust the solder
but thought I'd mention it."
Posted by: r_towle Sep 14 2015, 01:56 PM
QUOTE(scotty b @ Sep 14 2015, 03:40 PM)
R.I.F.
What does that mean?
Rest in freon?
R u insanely fubar?
Posted by: stugray Sep 14 2015, 02:59 PM
QUOTE(r_towle @ Sep 14 2015, 01:56 PM)
QUOTE(scotty b @ Sep 14 2015, 03:40 PM)
R.I.F.
What does that mean?
Rest in freon?
R u insanely fubar?
Rest
In
Farts (it's a fetish thing :-)...
R.I.F. Reading is Fundamental - Similar to RTFM
Posted by: Andyrew Sep 14 2015, 03:06 PM
Find a hot rod shop in town and ask if they can tig aluminum or call a radiator shop. All of them should be able to weld aluminum.
Posted by: craig downs Sep 14 2015, 07:22 PM
I have a tig welder and could do that for you. I'm about 40 minutes north from you. I live in Eastvale.
Posted by: toolguy Sep 14 2015, 07:23 PM
Straight tig welding will product slag on the inside.
I'd suggest you machine an aluminum sleeve that slides into both pieces, then leave a 1/8 inch gap between the two and tig the gap. .
See Dustin at AJ Sandcars in El Cajon. he can do it while you wait if you have the
sleeve ready. . call for an appointment first. .
The him Uncle Dave sent you. .
Posted by: craig downs Sep 14 2015, 07:25 PM
Just what I was thinking
Posted by: 76-914 Sep 14 2015, 09:12 PM
QUOTE(toolguy @ Sep 14 2015, 06:23 PM)
Straight tig welding will product slag on the inside.
I'd suggest you machine an aluminum sleeve that slides into both pieces, then leave a 1/8 inch gap between the two and tig the gap. .
See Dustin at AJ Sandcars in El Cajon. he can do it while you wait if you have the
sleeve ready. . call for an appointment first. .
The him Uncle Dave sent you. .
Sage advice and one I would have surely missed. I'll give Dustin a call Uncle Dave.
Is this what you are talking about, Dave?
Posted by: toolguy Sep 14 2015, 09:25 PM
Bingo. . . Dustin is magical on tigging alum. .
here is his website. .
http://www.agsandcars.com/
Address: 244 Denny Way, El Cajon, CA 92020
Phone:(619) 449-8308
Posted by: stugray Sep 14 2015, 11:33 PM
Now see! with those two pictures I say I could solder them both.
However if you want it done right, tig is the way to go!
And I know with really high end welding, you minimize the porosity & slag on the inside by purging the tube as you weld.
Posted by: Mark Henry Sep 14 2015, 11:38 PM
QUOTE(stugray @ Sep 15 2015, 01:33 AM)
Now see! with those two pictures I say I could solder them both.
However if you want it done right, tig is the way to go!
And I know with really high end welding, you minimize the porosity & slag on the inside by purging the tube as you weld.
Looking at a stock 911 cooler I'd say the inlet tube is soldered from the factory.
Doesn't look welded.
Posted by: jd74914 Sep 15 2015, 06:26 AM
QUOTE(stugray @ Sep 15 2015, 12:33 AM)
And I know with really high end welding, you minimize the porosity & slag on the inside by purging the tube as you weld.
Just a note, but technically you don't need to back purge aluminum tubing when welding (stainless, etc. is a different story).
Posted by: bretth Sep 15 2015, 06:53 AM
Definitely make sure it is welded by someone who really knows what they are doing. I had to customize an A/C system to put into a 70's Dodge that I was restoring years ago. I painstakingly measured/cut and got everything set up perfect and then brought the 2 pieces to be butt welded together before having the A/C lines crimped into place. Brought it to an old "experienced" welder advertised in town. There was just enough weld porosity that it took about a month before enough refrigerant leaked out to stop blowing cold. Couldn't even see the hole but a drop of water in the spot would show the tiniest of bubbles escaping.
Brett
Posted by: 76-914 Sep 15 2015, 08:51 AM
Thx for all the great replies. I'm glad I posted this here but as usual I am not surprised by the collective knowledge within this group. Looks like another hurdle has been cleared. 1,000,000 thank you's.
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