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Posted by: kupcar Sep 21 2015, 10:36 PM

I've made the decision to add a hood badge. I found some old info saying that the bottom of the badge to the start of the hood should be 80mm. Is that right? I'm seeing pictures of them all over the place. Thanks.

Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 21 2015, 10:43 PM

Anywhere is fine considering there never was a hood badge.

You will find some info saying lined up with the top of the headlight lines... Not sure. Just know that it isn't an original feature so any rules would be a fabrication...

Posted by: Steve Sep 21 2015, 10:52 PM

QUOTE(kupcar @ Sep 21 2015, 09:36 PM) *

I've made the decision to add a hood badge. I found some old info saying that the bottom of the badge to the start of the hood should be 80mm. Is that right? I'm seeing pictures of them all over the place. Thanks.

That sounds about right. My car is a 75 and there was a badge on it when I bought it.
The bottom of the badge is 3" from the bottom of the trunk lid.
The purists frown upon the badge, but the 914-8 gift to Ferry Porsche had a badge on it, so neener, neener, neener.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=261542&hl=ferry%20porsche&st=20
Scroll down the above link to see Ferry Porsche's 914-8 badge. Mine looks similar to that.

Posted by: Tom_T Sep 21 2015, 10:54 PM

Well I sorta agree.gif with Rob at post #2 ....

There was one or two or ?? early press photo's of at least one prototype 914-6 with a crest hood badge, & the "custom made" 914-8's for Ferry Porsche & Ferd. Piech had them.

And then any dealer could add them at customer request or if they thought it helped sell them - IIRC it was Rusnak Porsche in Pasadena CA that did it to all 914s .... or one of the SoCal dealers .... & maybe others.

IMHO they look best on a 914 as close to the front edge as you can get & still clear the underside framework.

The 80 mm was for the 911/912 hood/front lid, but it didn't have the extra front length of the 914's bumper in front of it.

Some folks still use that dimension, others use a line across the tops of the headlight doors, & others split the difference & center them on the headlight doors (set an "X" between the top inside corner & opposite lower inside corner of the headlight doors), & all sorts of spots in between those.

So bottom line, look around at as many as you can find by googling or binging (??) for images of 914s with hood badges, then put it where YOU like it's look!

Good Luck! beerchug.gif
Tom
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Posted by: Chris914n6 Sep 21 2015, 11:09 PM

Little known fact about the 911 badge is that the badge is what you are supposed to press on to close the lid.

On a 914 it's all open space regarding the inner structure, so I suppose it doesn't really matter.

Posted by: jeffdon Sep 21 2015, 11:18 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ

Posted by: Dave_Darling Sep 22 2015, 12:18 AM

QUOTE(Steve @ Sep 21 2015, 09:52 PM) *

The bottom of the badge is 7.5 meters from the bottom of the trunk lid.


7.5 meters? I like that one--that puts it over the car, out into the driveway... smile.gif

--DD

Posted by: porschetub Sep 22 2015, 02:48 AM

Put a little body sealer under the speed nuts to seal them.
My badge wasn't original but period correct off a 1974 911,has a nice patina to it also,regardless of what some say I like them.

Posted by: maf914 Sep 22 2015, 05:31 AM

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Sep 21 2015, 10:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Steve @ Sep 21 2015, 09:52 PM) *

The bottom of the badge is 7.5 meters from the bottom of the trunk lid.


7.5 meters? I like that one--that puts it over the car, out into the driveway... smile.gif

--DD


7.5 m = 24.6 ft (approx) laugh.gif

Posted by: RobW Sep 22 2015, 06:34 AM

Its too bad they don't make a 1 ft tall badge you can see from 100 yards away. I'd mount that one... aktion035.gif

Posted by: RohJay Sep 22 2015, 07:02 AM

QUOTE(kupcar @ Sep 22 2015, 10:06 AM) *

I've made the decision to add a hood badge. I found some old info saying that the bottom of the badge to the start of the hood should be 80mm. Is that right? I'm seeing pictures of them all over the place. Thanks.


If you have not already seen this Pelican article:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/914_hood_crest/914_hood_crest.htm

I put mine at 100 mm up.
Using the template given in the above article.
Just see where it looks best to you.

Posted by: Steve Sep 22 2015, 08:34 AM

QUOTE(maf914 @ Sep 22 2015, 04:31 AM) *

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Sep 21 2015, 10:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Steve @ Sep 21 2015, 09:52 PM) *

The bottom of the badge is 7.5 meters from the bottom of the trunk lid.


7.5 meters? I like that one--that puts it over the car, out into the driveway... smile.gif

--DD


7.5 m = 24.6 ft (approx) laugh.gif


I flunked the metric system and can't read a metric tape measure, so I changed my post to inches.
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Posted by: 76-914 Sep 22 2015, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(RobW @ Sep 22 2015, 05:34 AM) *

Its too bad they don't make a 1 ft tall badge you can see from 100 yards away. I'd mount that one... aktion035.gif

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Posted by: mrfourteen Sep 22 2015, 09:42 AM

I think they look good in the glove box left in the wrapper. stirthepot.gif
On the way to a swap meet where you can trade it for a cup holder bye1.gif

Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 22 2015, 09:42 AM

Little known fact: Original Customs in Grand Rapids Michigan will install your hood badge in any "proper" location you designate for $500, if you supply the badge. It takes $15 minutes so he is basically raising his shop rate to $2000/hour for your job... lol-2.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 22 2015, 11:14 AM

QUOTE(Steve @ Sep 22 2015, 07:34 AM) *
I flunked the metric system and can't read a metric tape measure

I can help you with that:
1cm | 2cm | 3cm | 4cm | 5cm | 6cm | 7cm | 8cm |

3" ~= 7.62cm
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Posted by: toolguy Sep 22 2015, 11:20 AM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Sep 22 2015, 10:14 AM) *

QUOTE(Steve @ Sep 22 2015, 07:34 AM) *
I flunked the metric system and can't read a metric tape measure

I can help you with that:
1cm | 2cm | 3cm | 4cm | 5cm | 6cm | 7cm | 8cm |

3" ~= 7.62cm
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Easy way to remember. . .30 caliber is 7.62 mm. . another tidbit drilled into my head by the Army way back before 914's were made .

Posted by: KELTY360 Sep 22 2015, 11:53 AM

QUOTE(RobW @ Sep 22 2015, 05:34 AM) *

Its too bad they don't make a 1 ft tall badge you can see from 100 yards away. I'd mount that one... aktion035.gif

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That is a troubling image on so many levels...not that there's anything wrong with that. shades.gif

Posted by: Steve Snyder Sep 22 2015, 12:38 PM

QUOTE(RobW @ Sep 22 2015, 08:34 AM) *

Its too bad they don't make a 1 ft tall badge you can see from 100 yards away. I'd mount that one... aktion035.gif


You could always go for the negative side script like on the LEs. You can see that from well over 100 yards. stirthepot.gif

Posted by: RobW Sep 22 2015, 01:26 PM

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Sep 22 2015, 08:42 AM) *

Little known fact: Original Customs in Grand Rapids Michigan will install your hood badge in any "proper" location you designate for $500, if you supply the badge. It takes $15 minutes so he is basically raising his shop rate to $2000/hour for your job... lol-2.gif


No hard feelings about the move? blink.gif

Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 22 2015, 02:00 PM

QUOTE(RobW @ Sep 22 2015, 03:26 PM) *

QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Sep 22 2015, 08:42 AM) *

Little known fact: Original Customs in Grand Rapids Michigan will install your hood badge in any "proper" location you designate for $500, if you supply the badge. It takes $15 minutes so he is basically raising his shop rate to $2000/hour for your job... lol-2.gif


No hard feelings about the move? blink.gif


He's going to be back to pick up project cars. I think mine might go out there this winter for some engine work. I may have a valve guide issue. Those who were behind me on the drive around Lake Tahoe at WCR a couple years back are fairly sure I have a valve guide problem. blink.gif

Will I miss him? Yes... All us West Coasters will.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 22 2015, 02:19 PM

I have thought about a hood crest but since they did not come from the factory (yeah, yeah, couple cars had them installed, but in reality, it was not factory installed) and God knows that is the bible for me happy11.gif I guess I can't add one.

I think they look fine if they are mounted low on the hood, say with the top of the crest at the half-way point of the headlight cover.

I know a member posted that was where you were supposed to push to close the hood. I disagree and believe it is best to close the hood with two hands placed flat on the hood along the leading edge and maybe 1 foot apart and press down gently. I think pushing on the emblem will not only possibly bend the emblem but could dent the hood too. That is how I have always closed the hoods on my P-cars. Interestingly, when I bought my C4S the dealership told me the same thing - and of course those cars come with the crest on the hood.

At this point I do not think my car will have one. The only emblems on the car will be the rear panel 914-6 and the engine lid lettering. I do have a brand new NOS european Porsche VW 914-6 emblem. Though I have had that for well over 30 years, I don't think I am going to install it. Just the 914-6 emblem.

Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 22 2015, 02:21 PM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Sep 22 2015, 04:19 PM) *

I have thought about a hood crest but since they did not come from the factory (yeah, yeah, couple cars had them installed, but in reality, it was not factory installed) and God knows that is the bible for me happy11.gif I guess I can't add one.

I think they look fine if they are mounted low on the hood, say with the top of the crest at the half-way point of the headlight cover.

I know a member posted that was where you were supposed to push to close the hood. I disagree and believe it is best to close the hood with two hands placed flat on the hood along the leading edge and maybe 1 foot apart and press down gently. I think pushing on the emblem will not only possibly bend the emblem but could dent the hood too. That is how I have always closed the hoods on my P-cars. Interestingly, when I bought my C4S the dealership told me the same thing - and of course those cars come with the crest on the hood.

At this point I do not think my car will have one. The only emblems on the car will be the rear panel 914-6 and the engine lid lettering. I do have a brand new NOS european 914-6 VW Porsche emblem. Though I have that for well over 30 years, I don't think I am going to install it. Just the 914-6 emblem.


Sell it to me! evilgrin.gif

Posted by: rick 918-S Sep 22 2015, 02:23 PM

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Sep 22 2015, 01:18 AM) *

QUOTE(Steve @ Sep 21 2015, 09:52 PM) *

The bottom of the badge is 7.5 meters from the bottom of the trunk lid.


7.5 meters? I like that one--that puts it over the car, out into the driveway... smile.gif

--DD


lol-2.gif av-943.gif Where it belongs.. first.gif on the 911 parked behind you. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 22 2015, 02:23 PM

Sorry, That emblem is not for sale. I may yet change my mind - at my age it happens quite a bit biggrin.gif

Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 22 2015, 02:26 PM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Sep 22 2015, 04:23 PM) *

Sorry, That emblem is not for sale. I may yet change my mind - at my age it happens quite a bit biggrin.gif


I thought that at our age, we were pretty cemented and didn't change our minds! blink.gif

Well, if you do, let me know. I have one on order from George but given that he hasn't shipped it, I have to assume he doesn't have one and will ship it 12 years from now when he does... mad.gif

Posted by: Johny Blackstain Sep 22 2015, 02:29 PM

I've always loved the 916 & some came w/ a 356 hood handle badge mounted on the back, so I did that instead of a hood badge. The old badge, NLA, was black & orange stripes unlike the new ones which are black & red stripes. Black & orange looks good on a Creamsicle smile.gif


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Posted by: Scott S Sep 22 2015, 03:11 PM

I messed with location for flipping ever. I finally decided on the bottom edge of the badge (the point) at the same height as the bottom of the headlight cover.

Even though there is no right way (because they were never there), this looked the most right to me....
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Posted by: kupcar Sep 22 2015, 03:31 PM

I know that technically the 914 never came with a badge. I'm thinking it must have been some sort of agreement they had with Volkswagen. From a purists point of view it's not correct. But then my car is a GT clone, so it's really not going to factory original. I just think it deserves some respect, and a badge. Thought about keeping the 1.7 on the back for a laugh. But that would look funny with a six and gt flares! I guess every car is customized to the owner, unless it's a concours car.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 22 2015, 03:51 PM

Scott S - That badge placement looks spot-on. first.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 22 2015, 04:14 PM

QUOTE(Cairo94507 @ Sep 22 2015, 02:51 PM) *
Scott S - That badge placement looks spot-on. first.gif

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Posted by: AndyB Sep 22 2015, 04:20 PM

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Sep 22 2015, 02:18 AM) *

QUOTE(Steve @ Sep 21 2015, 09:52 PM) *

The bottom of the badge is 7.5 meters from the bottom of the trunk lid.


7.5 meters? I like that one--that puts it over the car, out into the driveway... smile.gif

--DD


Where it belongs IMO.

Posted by: kupcar Sep 22 2015, 04:50 PM

That does look good! I like the Martini stripes as well.

Posted by: C-Ya MK Sep 22 2015, 10:27 PM

QUOTE(Scott S @ Sep 22 2015, 02:11 PM) *

I messed with location for flipping ever. I finally decided on the bottom edge of the badge (the point) at the same height as the bottom of the headlight cover.

Even though there is no right way (because they were never there), this looked the most right to me....
beerchug.gif

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without the green line:
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I really like that placement and your car. I've been on the fence about this and continue to decide not to add a badge. However, I see that and know it would look great on my car.
Mike

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