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Posted by: rightpedal Sep 27 2015, 07:45 AM

Hi all

Steve here in Maryland. I just got notified that I am in for the 914 challenge. I will post pics as soon I see how the moderators of the challenge want to proceed.


Ok maybe one teaser....


And maybe another.....


This aint gonna be pretty!

Steve

Posted by: PanelBilly Sep 27 2015, 08:43 AM

Is that the parts car?

Posted by: Andyrew Sep 27 2015, 10:18 AM

Wow, that is severe...

You really going to be able to finish that in a year?

Watching!

Posted by: mepstein Sep 27 2015, 10:24 AM

Once you tear into that body, It's going to get ugly.

Posted by: LowBridge Sep 27 2015, 12:08 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Sep 27 2015, 12:24 PM)

Posted by: Chris H. Sep 27 2015, 04:25 PM

Yeah does this one have sentimental value? That's a lot of bondo there. Probably the whole sail panel is full of it.



Do the doors open and close freely?

Posted by: Mikey914 Sep 27 2015, 04:46 PM

Well, this one will be some work, the good news is the metal is available. This will serve as an excellent opportunity to keep this one alive, and who knows maybe get some free parts. All of us will be the winners if the cars get back on the road!

In the Portland area I have a client of mine that does a media blasting with a water medium that is excellent for stripping metal, there are soda blasting companies that can help strip it down too. Interested to see how bad it really is.

I'm sure there will be some good stories that come from this.

Posted by: 914forme Sep 27 2015, 04:55 PM

The water media blasting thing is cool, and seems complete odd to the concept, but I would love to find one in the Dayton, Ohio Area.

Bust of luck with the build, wish I had a parts car, I would send the fenders your way as I think you will need a large chunk of them, for both sides.

This is really saving one

Posted by: rightpedal Sep 27 2015, 05:22 PM

I'm not scared....but yea its ugly. The doors... sure they open... with a jack and a hammer.

I have fixed this. so metal work is no problem for me.

Posted by: FourBlades Sep 27 2015, 05:25 PM

I fixed one that bad, it can be done.

Look at the third car in my signature.

If you fixed that truck you can fix that 914.

John

Posted by: OU8AVW Sep 27 2015, 05:40 PM

Yeah, Steve has some tallent with metal. He has some sweet old trucks. He's my neighbor so I'm stoked to help.

Posted by: Chris H. Sep 27 2015, 05:45 PM

Alright then, go for it! Just making sure you know what you got there. All the metal is available one way or another. We love a good rustoration . Nothing better than bringing one back from the grave.

Posted by: rightpedal Sep 27 2015, 07:54 PM

So the full story...

I bought a 73 (red car) and 74 (blue car) with a ton of parts for $1000.00. I was going to part them out and be done with them..... but they grew on me. The blue car has been in a garage for the last twenty years. The owner shredded the crank and sold it to the guy who I bought it from. the blue car had its drivetrain pulled and disassembled. The red car has no title and is really rusty. The motor will fire and sort of run on a spray bottle with fuel.

My plan is to make a driver out of the blue car. The BIG monkey wrench is i want to do it for zero cost. That's my my challenge to me. I have already sold off some parts.

-$1000.00 Original purchase

+$200.00 sold 2 sets of seats

+$400.00 sold targa top, center counsel, muffler, and sun visors
__________
- $400.00

So right now I'm $400 in the hole.

I have quite a bit of parts to get rid of. Thats great except I just dont see the money going very far. The plan is to reuse, freshen up, recycle, and rebuild. My en goal is just a driver. Not a full bore resto or a show car. I have to keep it in mind that this is a car that was a day away from the great sawzaw in the sky.

Posted by: rightpedal Sep 28 2015, 04:17 AM

Some more pics of the blue car

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Posted by: rightpedal Sep 28 2015, 04:22 AM

Some pics of the red car.

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Posted by: Annapolis914 Oct 4 2015, 04:12 AM

I have seen both vehicles and lucky to have secured Steve's services for parts and more. He is an amazing guy with a wrench, and I have no doubt he can make it happen. Best thing is he will be an asset to all on 914World with his experience.
Glad to suport his mission of zero costs by taking more parts off his hands.
Best of luck Steve!

Posted by: rightpedal Oct 31 2015, 04:36 AM

Any body go to the extremes of dissembling the fresh air boxes. I tried one with ok results but it took a while.

Posted by: rightpedal Oct 31 2015, 04:57 AM

Some of the engine tin got blasted. I acid coated the larger pieces and decided I didn't like the process. I left the other parts bare. They developed a little flash rust but nothing bad. When i pick a day I will reblast everything. Epoxy prime and paint it all at once.

Posted by: stevegm Oct 31 2015, 08:43 AM

QUOTE(rightpedal @ Oct 31 2015, 06:57 AM)

Some of the engine tin got blasted. I acid coated the larger pieces and decided I didn't like the process. I left the other parts bare. They developed a little flash rust but nothing bad. When i pick a day I will reblast everything. Epoxy prime and paint it all at once.

Posted by: rightpedal Nov 9 2015, 01:30 PM

BIG DIRECTION CHANGE..............



I bought a 75 from ghuff. We worked out a deal and he was very kind to me. Spent the weekend fitting a ten hour drive (each way) around work.

Here is his build thread

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=97015&hl=

He started with a pretty nice car that had some glaring issues. I am going to scrap the 74 and use the 75 tub it is soooo much better.

The build stays the same just using a different tub.

Posted by: rightpedal Nov 9 2015, 01:36 PM

I guess technically I'm out of the build off. I am not going to build the car I entered. The spirit, direction and work load doesn't change.

So what say the masses? More importantly what do the judges think.

Steve

Posted by: rightpedal Nov 9 2015, 01:42 PM

So i have been clearing house to make room and concentrate on one thing at a time.

my 1966 chevy went to another home.






Next on the chopping block

Posted by: Andyrew Nov 9 2015, 02:02 PM

QUOTE(rightpedal @ Nov 9 2015, 11:36 AM)

Posted by: stevegm Nov 9 2015, 02:14 PM

If an owner cuts out all the rusty sheet metal on their 914, is it the same 914? How much must you cut out for it to be a different car? Idk.

Major directional changes is par for the course in the 914 restoration game. We aren't going to start splitting hairs about how much sheet metal you can replace. Build on.

(It's going to take more effort than that to get that awesome jacket Rick is giving to the first Challenger to drop out.)

Posted by: rightpedal Nov 9 2015, 02:36 PM

That's one jacket I don't want.

Thanks guys

Posted by: rightpedal Nov 15 2015, 04:29 PM

QUOTE(stevegm @ Oct 31 2015, 09:43 AM)

QUOTE(rightpedal @ Oct 31 2015, 06:57 AM)

Some of the engine tin got blasted. I acid coated the larger pieces and decided I didn't like the process. I left the other parts bare. They developed a little flash rust but nothing bad. When i pick a day I will reblast everything. Epoxy prime and paint it all at once.

Sandblast? I have a set of tin that I just got and need to strip it before painting. I was considering taking it to a sandblaster or have it beed blasted?

Posted by: rightpedal Nov 16 2015, 05:16 AM

Up date. I have the 75 tucked away in the garage. The 74 is now stowed out side till I need parts and the 73 is getting disassembled.

Between leaf collection and work i was only able to put 6/7 hr of work in on the 914s.


Why do I need the jack receiver boxes? My thinking is I don't. Its not something I would ever use and originality is really low on the list. About 8 steps below function.

Posted by: rightpedal Nov 16 2015, 05:32 AM

The wiring harness I now out of the 75. I hacked it at the tunnel to make it easy to remove. The plan is to use a universal 9+3 from Rebel wire.

http://rebelwire.com/rebel-wire-products.php?cat=Wire%20Kits

I have used painless and americian auto wire but rebel was the best all around value and quality.

There will be some mixing and matching between after market and original.

I like the the distribution box from waytec.

http://www.waytekwire.com/item/46095/Bussmann-37702-1AN0022-Power-Relay-Module-/

The goal is to clean up the engine compartment, lose some of the spaghetti mess, eliminate unnecessary circuits (seatbelt system) and some weight.

Posted by: rightpedal Nov 16 2015, 05:39 AM

A couple of 75 shots before I bury it in the garage.

Posted by: rightpedal Dec 28 2015, 07:04 PM

Disassembled the parts car.

Posted by: rightpedal Dec 28 2015, 07:11 PM

Every once and a while my anger issues bubble to the surface. Who the F@$& uses striped old flat head screws to attach the header pad. Some one tell me Porsche didn't use flat heads and it was some asshat former owner.

Posted by: rightpedal Dec 28 2015, 07:22 PM

Interior is out.

Posted by: 76-914 Dec 28 2015, 07:26 PM

IIRC, they're phillips and shitty phillips at that. Maybe they were slotted but I still remember shitty so there you are. Correct angle of the screwdriver is critical or they will punish you. The very first thing that I ever did on a 914.

Posted by: rightpedal Dec 28 2015, 07:28 PM

Enough with the threats......

Posted by: rightpedal Dec 28 2015, 07:31 PM

Dad standing with my very own sad little "Porsche Ranch"

Posted by: rightpedal Dec 29 2015, 12:22 PM

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IIRC, they're phillips and shitty phillips at that. Maybe they were slotted but I still remember shitty so there you are. Correct angle of the screwdriver is critical or they will punish you. The very first thing that I ever did on a 914.
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Yea there was no way to see inside and determine what was going on. I really just wanted the laches. I probably should have taken my time but the Mr Hyde came out and found a pry bar.

Posted by: rightpedal Jan 16 2016, 06:08 AM

Got the 1/4 started. Not bad at all. A little rust at the vent tube. Such a shame the crack heads with a ark welder decided to fill door handles. (we need a crack head with a ark welder smile)

Posted by: Annapolis914 Jan 16 2016, 06:27 AM

looking good might drop by today as I will be out for a "spin".

Posted by: oldie914 Jan 23 2016, 09:29 AM

The steering wheel and horn button in the blue car look like early 911/912 parts. You should check it out because they could be worth selling.

Posted by: rightpedal Jan 26 2016, 05:09 AM

I think the horn button is an original porsche part (read not a repoduction). It is on the top of the list of items to be sold.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 31 2016, 11:03 PM

Hey, the jacket is cool and all but it is does symbolize the wall of shame... Keep on welding bro!

Posted by: RJMII Jan 31 2016, 11:30 PM

QUOTE(rightpedal @ Jan 26 2016, 04:09 AM)

Posted by: rightpedal Jun 12 2016, 07:56 PM

A looooooog over due update.

I bought a radiator fan combo
A Subaru 3.0, 5mt trans, computer, starter, harness, and mounts(Crazy Rays pickurpart)
clutch slave (luk from rockauto)
honda clutch master (luk rockuto)
clutch kit from ebay
chunk of 1/4 aluminum

Started cleaning up the floor and adding the tunnel for the cooling tubes.



I used an old shelving unit for the sheet metal. My thinking is a 1 1/2 deep tray sits just under the factory consul hump. Since I'm not using the factory shifter, wiring harness or fuel lines I might as well take up space with two 1 1/2 tubes. I don't like to use soft lines if i can help it. The plan is to run hard lines under the car with soft connections front and rear.

the Subie 3.0 is from a 2002 outback that was completely caved in on the driver side. No Idea of the millage but everything in the engine compartment pointed to a running engine that had been well maintained.
The glitch was I went back two days later to pull the harness and computer. The car was already crushed. A couple weeks later another 3.0 showed up at a different crazy rays. I love pick ur parts.


The 5mt trans was pulled from a 2002 Impreza that had a pretty hard front impact. This is more of a gamble. The drive pulleys were mangled and it cracked the alt/ac mount. the trans appears to have escaped the the bulk of the impact.

Posted by: rightpedal Jun 12 2016, 08:08 PM

I did a quick clean up to the 3.0





Made a block off plate from some scrap aluminum. way easier than i thought it would be.

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Posted by: rightpedal Jun 12 2016, 08:10 PM

Simple....pattern, drill, jig saw, hole saw, file..... done



Cut down the factory bolts. Thinking back it was a bit of a mistake. i need two of the bolts to hold the bracket for the cable shifter.

Posted by: jimkelly Jun 13 2016, 05:40 AM

plate is looking great. jig saw, huh

Posted by: Andyrew Jun 13 2016, 08:03 AM

QUOTE(rightpedal @ Jun 12 2016, 07:10 PM)

Simple....pattern, drill, jig saw, hole saw, file..... done



Cut down the factory bolts. Thinking back it was a bit of a mistake. i need two of the bolts to hold the bracket for the cable shifter.

Posted by: 76-914 Jun 13 2016, 08:25 AM

Wow! You stole that drive train. Your going to love that 3.0. Smooth as a sewing machine and nice torque curve, 25mpg! Two things; did you get the ECU for that motor (IIRC, 2001-02 are the same; 2003 is different) and did you clean that oil cooler? I couldn't see it in the pics after you cleaned the motor.

Posted by: 914350 Jun 13 2016, 09:01 AM

Way cool...I love the tunnel modification.

Posted by: Andyrew Jun 13 2016, 11:11 AM

I also love the center tunnel mod!

Be sure you use SS tubes. I contemplated welding in stainless steel tubes in my setup. May still do that.

Ifin you do do that I would suggest that you add another layer of steel between the cabin and the tubes and put some insulation in there or at least some kind of heat barrier. If the tubes are held off the steel 1/2" then the radiant heat should be much better.

Posted by: rightpedal Jun 13 2016, 05:00 PM

QUOTE(76-914 @ Jun 13 2016, 10:25 AM)

Wow! You stole that drive train. Your going to love that 3.0. Smooth as a sewing machine and nice torque curve, 25mpg! Two things; did you get the ECU for that motor (IIRC, 2001-02 are the same; 2003 is different) and did you clean that oil cooler? I couldn't see it in the pics after you cleaned the motor.

Posted by: rightpedal Jun 13 2016, 05:06 PM

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Jun 13 2016, 01:11 PM)

Posted by: Andyrew Jun 13 2016, 10:07 PM

Are you going to do stainless or aluminized(conduit) tube?

Posted by: rightpedal Jun 14 2016, 04:47 AM

I have not committed one way or the other. It is going to depend on available funds and my ability to bend them. I could get away with strait pipes given the shape of the tunnel but I would like to see the tube kick up front and rear toward the target end.

Stainless.... well its stainless and will last about forever.
aluminized exhaust tube.... cheap a little easier to bend.

Leaning toward exhaust tube. The concept/challenge of this build is is zero end cost. Im ahead on the budget right now but we all know how fast it disappears once the reassembly starts to happen. I figure painted and taken care of the exhaust tube has a 8-10 year life span. I rarely keep vehicles 2-3 years past completion. If I or the next owner has to redo the coolant pipes 10 years down the road....so be it.

steve

Posted by: rightpedal Jun 14 2016, 04:54 AM

Woooooftaa I just bought a couple of mounts for the 3.0 subie motor. $165.00 after shipping. To compare 2.5 mounts $80. The joy of supply and demand.

Posted by: jd74914 Jun 14 2016, 05:08 AM

Aluminum (non-heat treated so T-0 condition) tubing should be less expensive than stainless and still bend pretty well. It might be worth a look since you will avoid the rust and galvanic corrosion problems without incurring too high a cost penalty.

I like the tunnel mod as well!

Posted by: rightpedal Jun 14 2016, 07:13 AM

Oooo hadn't thought of that! I will do some research.

Posted by: Andyrew Jun 14 2016, 08:34 AM

QUOTE(rightpedal @ Jun 14 2016, 03:47 AM)

Posted by: rightpedal Oct 30 2016, 06:35 PM

Big news I'm moving across the country. This has been in the works for a couple of months now. The 914s are a casualty of the move. I am putting the whole lot up for sale. I will list details on all parts and cars in the for sale section some time this week. The basic list is as follows.

1975 Georgia car
1974 blue car
1/4s, doors, suspension, and breaks from the red car.
3.0 subie motor with all the accessories and transmission.
subie cradle and trans mounts.
new parts: clutch kit, clutch slave and master, radiator/fan combo, 3.0 subie mounts.
boxes and boxes of used parts.
3 tops

$2000.00