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Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 09:50 AM

As the title reads this is my build off thread. First this is what the car looked like when I picked her up in 2011, she was on conceinmeent.




Oh she was beautiful in her 1.8 glory. The car had 4 owners and all the paperwork to include the window sticker. Since owning her I have put over. 30k miles on her. That is more than the previous three owners combined. I have driven her through snow and rain. Earlier this year the engine went from 0 r.p.m. To turned off the ignition when it climbed past 7k, it was too late. I spun the bearings and made some round holes oval.

Andy.

Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 09:54 AM

Here is my resume:
Welding nope I can melt metal so it should be fun.
Painting other then interiors of houses and drywall none.
Engine rebuilding experience ummmmm none.
I will be doing the work from start to finish by myself with some mentoring from a good buddy. So sit back and be ready to laugh as I am sure I will.

Andy

Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 10:16 AM

This is how she currently sits.

Disclaimer: to those that have seen her in person, don't judge me stuff happens.

Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 10:18 AM

Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 10:22 AM

Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 10:24 AM

That's all for now.

Posted by: Tom_T Oct 1 2015, 12:12 PM

Why isn't she in your big ole barn Andy!!??

This is your other acquisition - not Scarlet - right??

Also - get a rev limiter next time! .... saves money in the long run!
Hopefully that wasn't the motor Tangerine built for you!?

BTW - Michael should have his 3rd stripe now! He passed promo board late Aug, then went for 2 weeks at the lovely sunny NTC - left on Labor Day Sat. (115-120 degrees there then! ), but haven't heard from him since!
Kids!!!!

Hey - Good Luck Buddy!

Take Care,
Tom
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Posted by: Racer Chris Oct 1 2015, 01:08 PM

It is Scarlet. The engine we built.
I like that he's rebuilding that engine as opposed to the conversion he's been threatening to do.

Rev Limiter won't help a no load over rev from a stuck throttle.
Probably would have survived if not for the stone cold startup, ie. no chance to build pressure when the oil is so thick.
He shut it off quick enough that it didn't go boom at least.

Posted by: Tom_T Oct 1 2015, 01:26 PM

Dang Chris, that's sad!!

I haven't been back there fto his area or a couple of years - since our son got transferred from Ft Drum where Andy worked, over to Ft Carson CO - so haven't seen Scarlet, but he did say last time that he was t thinking of a Subie or Porsche -6 transplant.

When I drove his 914 once before your rebuild of that /4, I did notice that it had a very stiff & sticky acc cable/spring - especially as compared to my 73 2L when it ran & my current BMW 325e & other folks 914s I've driven. It gave me fits & I kept stalling his car - which I rarely ever do on any stick, since I DD my 325e (of course he gave me a ration of shit for it anyway ).

I just wrote it off to the stiffer acc spring they put in the 75-76 models.

Was the over rev stuck throttle anything to do with that?


Tom
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Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 01:28 PM

Nope 5 degree weather and sitting for weeks will do that. Ask me how I know

Posted by: injunmort Oct 1 2015, 02:04 PM

wow

Posted by: rjames Oct 1 2015, 02:07 PM

Is the moral of this photo 'Don't start prepping for paint until you're ready to paint' ?

Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 02:30 PM

Nope the moral of that story is why would you cover a perfectly good door with a 1/4 inch of bondo. But those photos come later.

Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 02:35 PM

Besides everyone knows they are primed with rust then painted.

Posted by: wndsnd Oct 1 2015, 02:48 PM

Looking forward to your build Andy.

Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 02:51 PM

Thanks John

Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 02:55 PM

What this engine?

Posted by: Tom_T Oct 1 2015, 03:59 PM

OK - so you are going to do the subie!? 4 or 6?

BTW I'll be at a biz conference in Toronto 10/13-15 via Buffalo, then flying to DC/VA etc.,

But I don't know if I can get up your way to Philly/Watertown too, in the limited time I have Thurs eve end of meetings in TOR, to 11 am report to airport/TCA for my noon-ish flight.

I'll let you know if it might work to get up there for a visit.

Good Luck!
Tom
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Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 04:15 PM

No that's what I keep telling Racer Chris. She is still going to be air cooled. Now the other car well that's a different story.

Posted by: Smallblockbug Oct 1 2015, 04:30 PM

Your a little over an hour and a half away from me. Depending on things i may be able to help some.

Posted by: RobW Oct 1 2015, 04:31 PM

You get points for being ambitious!

Posted by: crawler Oct 1 2015, 04:32 PM

We need some kind of prof ot the date of your build.
Maybe a newspaper with the date on it.

Posted by: FourBlades Oct 1 2015, 04:34 PM

Best of luck with your build!

This should be entertaining to read and end up a cool car.

John

Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 04:42 PM

Happy Now?

Posted by: Tom_T Oct 1 2015, 05:00 PM

What the F is that motor then - a 2.4 or 2.7 flat-6 Porsche air cooled?

TT
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Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 05:06 PM

A 2.2 liter 4 cylinder air cooled. Same engine that those who drove it know it's pull. I need to bring it back, I don't like not having a running car. Ambitious that depends. Ever ride shotgun in a 914? I did and did not enjoy it. Driver was a great guy.

Posted by: Tom_T Oct 1 2015, 05:14 PM

LOL That's only cuz I kept stalling your 914 Baby - between it's stiff gas linkage, my big running shoe's sole catching on the center console .... oh, & mostly due to my not having driven my own nor any 914 for a quarter of a century!

Good choice! The 2.2 & the Raby 2270's etc. can be set up with as much HP as the 70s flat-6's - but without the added weight of the extra bank of cylinders.

I'm guessing carbed, but watch out for the PMOs - ask Dave W./toolguy on here before you look at them, if you're considering PMOs.


Tom
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Posted by: AndyB Oct 1 2015, 05:30 PM

This time around it will Have carbs but that's my preference.

Posted by: AndyB Oct 4 2015, 09:16 AM

So for those that are curious as to why I stripped major paint I would like you look at the following photos.

Posted by: AndyB Oct 4 2015, 09:47 AM

If they were gonna use this much bondo the could of at least sculpted some flares.

Posted by: AndyB Oct 4 2015, 03:32 PM

You know the saying go big or go home. Wait a second I am home.

Posted by: AndyB Oct 4 2015, 04:16 PM

Cantley914 took a trip south and visited me from Canada. Now that's cool finally another 914 owner has been to my house.

Posted by: 914itis Oct 4 2015, 06:10 PM

Posted by: AndyB Oct 4 2015, 06:23 PM

Paul it says another 914 owner

Posted by: Tom_T Oct 5 2015, 10:33 AM

Hey Andy -

I resemble that remark by Paul ... he & I are both "another 914 owner" .... or are we just dog meat unless we our own 914s to your house!>

.... for me, not a likely chance of doing a sunny SoCal to Frostbite Falls NY in my 73!

Just ya!

Apparently Michael has been out in sunny NTC all this time - just got a text this past weekend that he's leaving CA for Carson! He thought it would only be 2 weeks.

PS - Tip: get some zinc primer rattle cans (Wurth, Eastwood, etc.) & flash coat the bare metal anytime it's going to sit for more thean 12-24 hours - especially back there in the high humidity, to prevent that surface rusting after you've taken off the paint to bare metal in areas. That stuff can stay on with the repaint, be welded through it, or quickly sanded off or sode/media blasted if need be - but in the meantime you won't get all that rust restarting. I did that with the pair of early-beamless `73 doors I got from Beach914 a while back, the PO before him had sanded them & left them to rust, so I sanded off the surface rust & Wurth zinc primed them til the can be worked on with the rest of the body work, so far good for 2+ years! The zinc goes sacrificial to oxidation, instead of the steel to rust!

Cheers!
Tom
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Posted by: cary Oct 6 2015, 06:48 AM

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Posted by: AndyB Oct 7 2015, 10:01 AM

So last night I am removing the last of the bondo on the passenger side when my wife tells me she likes the car better with no paint just bare metal. What do I do?

Posted by: stevegm Oct 7 2015, 10:04 AM

Clear coat the bare metal.

Posted by: 914itis Oct 7 2015, 10:04 AM

Leave it bare metal and clear coat it .

Posted by: Tom_T Oct 7 2015, 10:21 AM

Right Andy, so just paint an "Open for Lunch" sign on it to invite the tin worms in!

Seriously, the answer is that's it's worth more painted the original color, a bit less if color changed to OE silver for 75, & not much as a bare metal clear coated rebel 914. Women understand value, even if not the car hobby.

IMHO, it was just a hint to stop playing with your car so much & come inside honey!


Tom
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Posted by: 914forme Oct 7 2015, 10:25 AM

Keeping Bare Metal Clean http://www.gibbsbrandlubricant.com

Posted by: AndyB Oct 7 2015, 11:38 AM

Not really concerned about value the paint wasn't original to begin with.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 31 2016, 11:33 PM

How goes the progress?

Posted by: AndyB Mar 12 2017, 11:03 AM

The build never died, to be honest the passing of my brother the privious year I thought that this would be the answer to drawing my attention away from it. It wasn't. Up until this past December I struggled with many things, my PTSD being at the top of the list and the realization of being the one to say yes to the doctors. That being said this little guy is my new battle buddy Fenway. He is here to make sure that I get back on track and follow through with this project. He is a PTSD service dog that has the worst breath in the world. Oh did I also mention my vanity tag ITSA914 is at stake?it expires next month, and I am allowed to reregister the car as long as it has been inspected and registered with in 12 months

Andy

Posted by: AndyB Mar 12 2017, 11:06 AM

Today I will begin with starting the 5 lug conversion kit that I got in a group who knows when but I will take pictures along the way.

Posted by: Tom_T Mar 12 2017, 11:20 AM

Just sent you a PM!

Plan B for your plate may be to xfer them to your DD temporarily - if NY allows that.


Tom
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Posted by: AndyB Mar 12 2017, 02:22 PM

Now seriously where is the fun in that?

AndyB

Posted by: AndyB Mar 12 2017, 02:26 PM

Ok cv axel is out, what size sockets should I use to push out the hub? Any help much appreciated.

AndyB

Posted by: Tom_T Mar 12 2017, 02:27 PM

It just saves the plate while you finish up .... that's all!

But then you have that huge barn to knock around in, so you'll probably "git 'er dun" in time to not need to do so!


Tom
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Posted by: 914itis Mar 12 2017, 03:11 PM

Hey Andy , good to hear from you bud
ITSA914
Hm!!
Copyright ... lol

I like it .

Posted by: AndyB Mar 13 2017, 05:51 AM

No Paul you may not try and undercut me at DMV.

Posted by: AndyB Mar 13 2017, 05:58 AM

Stephen,

Thanks for posting this, I just might have to invest in some of that.

Andy

Posted by: AndyB Mar 13 2017, 06:08 AM

So today I am going to attempt to finish one wheel for the 5 lug conversion. I ran into a slight problem with one of the screws, but it's been soaking all night in PB Blaster. Now when I go out there hopefully it will have penetrated enough to back out the last screw. I am doing small tasks to really help get me motivated. After a trip to Tangerine Racing this past weekend, and gettting a well needed shot of motivation. There are some changes being made to the otgional plan, the power plant will be a Subaru 2.5l N/A engine with transmission. I am saving the 2.2 for the yellow bomber.

Andy

Posted by: AndyB Mar 13 2017, 07:04 AM

Ok so I am flea bay shopping for an engine wiring harness a for a 2002 Impreza Outback manual is there a diferance between the automatic and the standard?

Posted by: AndyB Mar 13 2017, 09:11 AM

5 lug rims with tires. Rears are 245/40 R17. The fronts are 225/45R17 got these for a very reasonable price. They are custom so the look is exactly what I am looking for.

Posted by: AndyB Mar 13 2017, 09:14 AM

The scariest part for me is getting ready to happen.

Posted by: mepstein Mar 13 2017, 09:39 AM

Heat it with a torch. Even propane will work. Get it nice and hot. Then as it cools, touch it with an old candle and let the wax seep in. Wax wont flame like penetrating oil but it works well.

Posted by: AndyB Mar 13 2017, 10:04 AM

Thanks Mark

Posted by: AndyB Mar 14 2017, 12:26 PM

Thanks Mark that work.

AndyB

Posted by: saigon71 Mar 15 2017, 03:57 PM

Welcome back Andy!

Posted by: AndyB Mar 25 2017, 01:15 PM

Ok so I see time has once again eluded me. I am trying to do a once a week update as I continue this build. I have been busy pinning my flares to where I felt they just look the best. I am also working the 5 lug conversion. I already know the rear is going to need a spacer.

Posted by: AndyB Mar 25 2017, 01:16 PM

I was given the all clear to start cutting so it's time to get a cutting..

Posted by: AndyB Mar 25 2017, 03:18 PM

Just cut my first fender no turning back now.

Andy B.

Posted by: injunmort Mar 25 2017, 05:12 PM

burn em in

Posted by: Tom_T Mar 28 2017, 09:23 AM

Hmmmm.....
I don't see anything askew you said on here.

Well, it looks like Scarlet's hips have gotten bigger pal!

Keep at it Bud!
Tom
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Posted by: AndyB Mar 28 2017, 12:20 PM

Thanks TomT. However here are the pictures that make me queasy....







There is some body work that I need to take care of. So the question is, since the areas are at the front and rear of the flare should I fix the bumps now or after welding the flare on? Enquiring mnds want to know.

AndyB

Posted by: Tom_T Mar 28 2017, 12:37 PM

I recall some of the pix at the start of this thread, & would say fix them first so your flares are going onto "done" clean body work & giving best fit. Just the metal work - not any bondo nor build for finish, which you'll want to do with the flares on to blend it all nicely.

Maybe Alien Rick or one of our other bodywork Pro members will weigh in on it too?

You might also want to protect your bare metal with some Wurth weld-through High Zinc primer (or similar from Eastwood, etc.) so it stays rust-free.

I've been doing that religiously whenever I wire wheel any surface rust areas on mine, since I'm on the 50-year-plan for my resto!


Tom
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Posted by: Tom_T Mar 28 2017, 12:39 PM

Hey! .... I just noticed that you got your barn floor concreted in!!

PS - Don't mind me, I'm old & have Half-zymers, so I only catch half the s**t half the time!

.... (Cheers to Slits!)


Tom
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Posted by: AndyB Mar 28 2017, 12:48 PM

Pssssst Tom, it's always been that way

Andy B

Posted by: Tom_T Mar 28 2017, 12:55 PM

Andy .... you had gravel in the barn - most of it anyway, when I was in there, & talked about wanting to get it completely paved! So I thought you did it all.

I'm not that far gone!


Tom
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Posted by: AndyB Mar 28 2017, 01:00 PM

Ok so here is the rear corner piece in question. I have a piece that I got from Racerchris that should fit the area. So do I cut out and put the new/old piece or do I do some body work and beat this area into submission? Looking for some ideas here folks.




Thanks,

AndyB

Posted by: AndyB Mar 28 2017, 01:23 PM

PMB suspension on the way. Can't wait for it to arrive Just another part in a long list.

Posted by: Tom_T Mar 28 2017, 01:55 PM

Depending on how good you are with a hammer & dolly, etc. - you should be able to straighten that out yourself, &/or get a local body pro or hobbyist-expert to help or advise for getting it smooth.

I've done that much of a dent myself on dents in other cars in the past with borrowed body tools, so it's possible.


Tom
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