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Posted by: HalfMoon Oct 16 2015, 04:49 PM

Thinking of getting off my unrestored (and very badly rusted nearly taco'd) LE.
Actually, I would prefer to trade it for a 5-lug tub without an engine or trans.
Where would it be best to test interest for something like that, here or the classified's (rules in classified's stipulate placing a price on all posts)?
Chime in admins.

Posted by: Mueller Oct 16 2015, 05:41 PM

QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Oct 16 2015, 03:49 PM) *

Thinking of getting off my unrestored (and very badly rusted nearly taco'd) LE.
Actually, I would prefer to trade it for a 5-lug tub without an engine or trans.
Where would it be best to test interest for something like that, here or the classified's (rules in classified's stipulate placing a price on all posts)?
Chime in admins.



I think posting as many detailed pictures here wouldn't be a bad idea to get a general pricing feel.

Just from your description, I wouldn't trade a 4-lug chassis without a drive train for an LE in that bad of condition.


Posted by: HalfMoon Oct 16 2015, 10:05 PM

QUOTE(Mueller @ Oct 16 2015, 07:41 PM) *

QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Oct 16 2015, 03:49 PM) *

Thinking of getting off my unrestored (and very badly rusted nearly taco'd) LE.
Actually, I would prefer to trade it for a 5-lug tub without an engine or trans.
Where would it be best to test interest for something like that, here or the classified's (rules in classified's stipulate placing a price on all posts)?
Chime in admins.



I think posting as many detailed pictures here wouldn't be a bad idea to get a general pricing feel.

Just from your description, I wouldn't trade a 4-lug chassis without a drive train for an LE in that bad of condition.


Here's a link to photobucket. Some 20 pictures. If there's interest in more (detailed) images I'll spend some time to take them and upload to photobucket.
http://s32.photobucket.com/user/david16481960/library/914%20LE
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Posted by: RobW Oct 16 2015, 10:18 PM

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Hope it looks better underneath. shades.gif

Posted by: boxstr Oct 16 2015, 10:53 PM

Take as many pics as you can and post it on the 914 world, pelican and Craigslist and the Samba. Get it out there as much as you can that's the only way anyone will know that it's available.
Craig at CAMP

Posted by: HalfMoon Oct 16 2015, 10:55 PM

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Hope it looks better underneath. shades.gif


No. It doesn't.
This will be a VERY major restoration effort involving a large sum of money and skill.
It was rescued days before the PO was to send it off for destruction. I only saved it as it's an LE.
This would not be for the faint of heart.
As my pal Dr. Evil has said of it, "that things a zombie"
But what would you have done, right? Let an LE go off to the crusher?

Posted by: HalfMoon Oct 16 2015, 10:59 PM

QUOTE(boxstr @ Oct 17 2015, 12:53 AM) *

Take as many pics as you can and post it on the 914 world, pelican and Craigslist and the Samba. Get it out there as much as you can that's the only way anyone will know that it's available.
Craig at CAMP


Good tip Craig. I'm in the process of posting it all over. It's also at the fb LE group. Over the next few days I'll be posting it at all the usual places.
It's been in my garage for too long already. Between poor health, other projects and the amount of money and resources to do the kind of restoration this would require...well, ya'll get the picture.

Posted by: HalfMoon Oct 18 2015, 06:42 PM

Close to taco :-(
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Posted by: DirtyCossack Oct 18 2015, 08:28 PM

I'm a car optimist, but that thing's toast.

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Oct 18 2015, 09:06 PM

Its technically savable with enough time/skills/money. 1 of only ~150 surviving and it has important parts with it. I would learn to weld and take it on if it were nearer to me. Please do not destroy this one.

You will probably have better luck just selling it and buying the tub/parts you would rather have than trade it.

Posted by: RobW Oct 18 2015, 09:24 PM

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Oct 18 2015, 08:06 PM) *

Its technically savable with enough time/skills/money. 1 of only ~150 surviving and it has important parts with it. I would learn to weld and take it on if it were nearer to me. Please do not destroy this one.

You will probably have better luck just selling it and buying the tub/parts you would rather have than trade it.

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This would be a cool project for someone with mad skills....

Posted by: HalfMoon Oct 18 2015, 09:41 PM

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Oct 18 2015, 11:06 PM) *

Its technically savable with enough time/skills/money. 1 of only ~150 surviving and it has important parts with it. I would learn to weld and take it on if it were nearer to me. Please do not destroy this one.

You will probably have better luck just selling it and buying the tub/parts you would rather have than trade it.


Rest assured Jeff, I have no intention at all of allowing it to be destroyed and will only sell or trade to someone I feel VERY confident will restore it. Failing that, I will keep it and continue it's dry storage (although as we all know...rust never sleeps).
Agree important parts-dealer installed AC, rear window defrost, intermitent wipers and even the electric antenae option. Not many had this level of both dealer and factory options.

Help me find someone who you think would undertake the level of restoration it surely deserves?
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Posted by: r_towle Oct 18 2015, 09:50 PM

I will bite, how much?

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Oct 18 2015, 09:55 PM

QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Oct 18 2015, 08:41 PM) *

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Oct 18 2015, 11:06 PM) *

Its technically savable with enough time/skills/money. 1 of only ~150 surviving and it has important parts with it. I would learn to weld and take it on if it were nearer to me. Please do not destroy this one.

You will probably have better luck just selling it and buying the tub/parts you would rather have than trade it.


Rest assured Jeff, I have no intention at all of allowing it to be destroyed and will only sell or trade to someone I feel VERY confident will restore it. Failing that, I will keep it and continue it's dry storage (although as we all know...rust never sleeps).
Agree important parts-dealer installed AC, rear window defrost, intermitent wipers and even the electric antenae option. Not many had this level of both dealer and factory options.

Help me find someone who you think would undertake the level of restoration it surely deserves?
D


Those parts are not significant. I was talking about the 2.0L engine with FI (is it the original case?) and the front spoiler. If you want I will put your email on the LE Registry indicating its for sale and so a buyer can contact you.

It will be a tough sell though because it needs so much work. Its one of those "for love, not money" types of projects.

You may just need to be content that a future owner will save it and not cut it up, it will not be a money maker.

Posted by: HalfMoon Oct 18 2015, 10:35 PM

QUOTE(r_towle @ Oct 18 2015, 11:50 PM) *

I will bite, how much?


Send me an offer via PM
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Posted by: HalfMoon Oct 18 2015, 10:46 PM

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Oct 18 2015, 11:55 PM) *

QUOTE(HalfMoon @ Oct 18 2015, 08:41 PM) *

QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Oct 18 2015, 11:06 PM) *

Its technically savable with enough time/skills/money. 1 of only ~150 surviving and it has important parts with it. I would learn to weld and take it on if it were nearer to me. Please do not destroy this one.

You will probably have better luck just selling it and buying the tub/parts you would rather have than trade it.


Rest assured Jeff, I have no intention at all of allowing it to be destroyed and will only sell or trade to someone I feel VERY confident will restore it. Failing that, I will keep it and continue it's dry storage (although as we all know...rust never sleeps).
Agree important parts-dealer installed AC, rear window defrost, intermitent wipers and even the electric antenae option. Not many had this level of both dealer and factory options.

Help me find someone who you think would undertake the level of restoration it surely deserves?
D


Those parts are not significant. I was talking about the 2.0L engine with FI (is it the original case?) and the front spoiler. If you want I will put your email on the LE Registry indicating its for sale and so a buyer can contact you.

It will be a tough sell though because it needs so much work. Its one of those "for love, not money" types of projects.

You may just need to be content that a future owner will save it and not cut it up, it will not be a money maker.

Well those parts obviously are valuable. I presume the case numbers are right, but I need to make sure. I'll check it out tomorrow.
As an aside, I've not seen many COA's that had these many options on one LE. As I understand it COA's wouldn't have the dealer options listed but would have the factory options listed? I believe it may have all the factory options.
Yes, please indicate on the registry that is up for sale, thank you. And, no it will not make money due to the extensive cost of a restoration either in terms of money or effort. As I've said before, the only reason I saved it was due to it being an LE. Had it been anything other than an LE I would have parted it long ago.
I had originally thought I may undertake the task but failing health now makes me aware my limited ability to do so.
But, at the end of the day, if I can't find someone who intends to restore it, I'll let it sit in my garage forever. I'm certainly not looking to make money on it. I just can't bear to see it destroyed or parted. It'd be nice to reclaim some garage space though...winters here can be brutal and my daily driver could use a nice warm garage.

Posted by: HalfMoon Oct 18 2015, 10:51 PM

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Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Oct 18 2015, 11:12 PM

Will do. I have not seen the COA for this LE...can you post it here or email it to me?

Posted by: HalfMoon Oct 19 2015, 11:58 AM

Perplexed. Engine number indicates 1975 or 76. I expected a GA or GB motor number. Perhaps Jeff can shed some light? Were any of the LE's built with a GC engine or has is this in fact had a replacement engine?
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Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Oct 19 2015, 12:03 PM

Replacement engine Dave. Sorry.

Posted by: HalfMoon Oct 19 2015, 12:05 PM

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Replacement engine Dave. Sorry.


The number (according to the below linked chart) is missing a zero? What does that mean?
http://www.p914.com/p914_vin.htm

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Oct 19 2015, 12:52 PM

Doesn't mean anything. The car has a 1976 2.0L engine. Not the end of the world, but does affect the value because its not the original engine.

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