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Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 21 2015, 05:22 PM
I'm working on having new master cylinders made for the 914's. They are going to be 19mm to crossover for the 911 also. Now you can get a quality part at a reasonable price. These are about 90 days out, but they will be a quality product, that is fully engineered.
Who's in?
Posted by: sb914 Oct 21 2015, 05:25 PM
I'm in for one.
Posted by: Kansas 914 Oct 21 2015, 05:40 PM
I would buy at least 2 of them. My '74 needs one that I can't get a good pedal on (kind of scary). I think it is a URO 19mm.
Posted by: edrotol Oct 21 2015, 06:05 PM
I'm working on having new master cylinders made for the 914's. They are going to be 19mm to crossover for the 911 also. Now you can get a quality part at a reasonable price. These are about 90 days out, but they will be a quality product, that is fully engineered, not some junk imported from China.
Who's in?
i am in.
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 21 2015, 06:18 PM
I would buy at least 2 of them. My '74 needs one that I can't get a good pedal on (kind of scary). I think it is a URO 19mm.
One of the reasons I'm doing this. I had a similar experience.
Posted by: fasthonda Oct 21 2015, 06:23 PM
I'm interested in one.
Michael
Posted by: Zimms Oct 21 2015, 06:27 PM
I am in
Posted by: draganc Oct 21 2015, 06:32 PM
Great price. Why oh why did I just buy one 2 weeks ago?
Posted by: rmdinmd Oct 21 2015, 07:12 PM
I am in for one.
Posted by: Shadowfax Oct 21 2015, 07:14 PM
I'm in. Brakes are on my to-do list 
Posted by: Mr. Olympic Blue 2 You Oct 21 2015, 07:18 PM
1 please!
Posted by: RAX 914 Oct 21 2015, 07:18 PM
I'm in
Posted by: Chris H. Oct 21 2015, 07:46 PM
In for 1.
Posted by: r3dplanet Oct 21 2015, 07:53 PM
One for me please.
Posted by: billh1963 Oct 21 2015, 07:57 PM
I'm in
Posted by: mgp4591 Oct 21 2015, 08:05 PM
Yes please! 
Posted by: Jett Oct 21 2015, 08:49 PM
Yes sir - 1, but know I'll have to do an entire brake job
Posted by: walterolin Oct 21 2015, 09:15 PM
I'm in for one.
Posted by: jeffdon Oct 21 2015, 09:52 PM
I'm working on having new master cylinders made for the 914's. They are going to be 19mm to crossover for the 911 also. Now you can get a quality part at a reasonable price. These are about 90 days out, but they will be a quality product, that is fully engineered, not some junk imported from China.
Who's in?
Not looking for one now. But goddamn, Mikey. You are a sourcing master.
Well done, sir.
Posted by: rjames Oct 21 2015, 10:09 PM
Count me in, please!
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 21 2015, 10:12 PM
Great price. Why oh why did I just buy one 2 weeks ago?
Hopefully you bought an ATE, because friends don't let friends buy URO.
My new signature mantra.
Posted by: pete000 Oct 21 2015, 10:27 PM
Upgrading to M caliper front brakes, so I will need on too !
Thanks !
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 21 2015, 10:38 PM
I'm sure Eric can help you on that front. I actually already partner with him on some calipers. The master cylinders we had discussed in the past, now I have a reason to go after this.
Mark
Posted by: Porscheless Oct 21 2015, 10:59 PM
I am in....Is there a larger(23? )mm option?Is this even necessary if i do a larger engine
Posted by: mobymutt Oct 21 2015, 11:03 PM
I'd be in for one.
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 22 2015, 12:37 AM
I am in....Is there a larger(23? )mm option?Is this even necessary if i do a larger engine
Possible,
I'll be discussing with Eric tomorrow. Going to see how we can optimize the program.
Mark
Posted by: mgp4591 Oct 22 2015, 02:48 AM
I am in....Is there a larger(23? )mm option?Is this even necessary if i do a larger engine
Exactly what I was thinking...
Posted by: mepstein Oct 22 2015, 05:08 AM
I am in....Is there a larger(23? )mm option?Is this even necessary if i do a larger engine
Exactly what I was thinking...
mc size has nothing to do with engine size.
Posted by: '73-914kid Oct 22 2015, 07:49 AM
Put me down for 1 as well. My dad's car needs a 19mm MC bad..
Posted by: 76-914 Oct 22 2015, 08:11 AM
I don't need one presently, but if this is a product that bURrO offers then count me in. 
'em.
Posted by: BillC Oct 22 2015, 08:27 AM
I'd like to get one, too.
However, if at all possible, I'd prefer to get one that is the correct stock size for my '73 1.7, since I'm planning to keep it all-stock. Any chance of doing a second GB at some point for the original size?
What is the original size, anyway? 17mm?
Posted by: Dave_Darling Oct 22 2015, 08:32 AM
But it does help you get a good leg workout!
--DD
Posted by: kid914 Oct 22 2015, 10:38 AM
Ooooh new parts 
in for one.
Posted by: aharder Oct 22 2015, 10:45 AM
I'm in for 1
Posted by: john77 Oct 22 2015, 11:12 AM
I'm in for one, thanks.
Posted by: Garland Oct 22 2015, 11:18 AM
In for 2
Posted by: Kansas 914 Oct 22 2015, 11:25 AM
Almost 30 units already - it will continue to be a good seller especially when the 911 guys get wind of it!
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 22 2015, 03:13 PM
I am in....Is there a larger(23? )mm option?Is this even necessary if i do a larger engine
Possible,
I'll be discussing with Eric tomorrow. Going to see how we can optimize the program.
Mark
Looks like we are best at sticking with the 19mm for the time being. Yes we will be proceeding on these. May even make some improvements
Posted by: Harpo Oct 22 2015, 03:24 PM
I will take one
Thanks
David
Posted by: Kansas 914 Oct 22 2015, 03:33 PM
May even make some improvements
Like threads for a fitting (3/8 NPT to hose barb) for the reservoir hoses?
Posted by: BeatNavy Oct 22 2015, 03:40 PM
May even make some improvements
Like threads for a fitting (3/8 NPT to hose barb) for the reservoir hoses?
Yeah, anything that can be done to improve that setup. Getting the supply hoses to set blows.
Be nice to not have to remove the fuel tank to replace. Please count me in for one as well, Mark!
Posted by: gandalf_025 Oct 22 2015, 03:40 PM
I'll take one also....
Posted by: stimpyvan Oct 22 2015, 03:41 PM
I'm in for one.
Posted by: draganc Oct 22 2015, 04:29 PM
Great price. Why oh why did I just buy one 2 weeks ago?
Hopefully you bought an ATE, because friends don't let friends buy URO.
My new signature mantra.
lol, I wouldn't buy anything from those URO Schweinehund.
Ate from pmb. Support the community.
Posted by: WLD419 Oct 22 2015, 05:52 PM
Please put me down for 1 , cool I've been wanting to replace my 23mm 
,
it requires to much foot pressure , especially for street driving ,
Posted by: patssle Oct 22 2015, 06:07 PM
I'd go for one too - good idea to have a quality backup!
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 22 2015, 07:12 PM
I'd like to get one, too.
However, if at all possible, I'd prefer to get one that is the correct stock size for my '73 1.7, since I'm planning to keep it all-stock. Any chance of doing a second GB at some point for the original size?
What is the original size, anyway? 17mm?
I'll get you covered, trust me
Posted by: 914bub Oct 22 2015, 07:24 PM
May even make some improvements
Like threads for a fitting (3/8 NPT to hose barb) for the reservoir hoses?
THIS!..... I have a brand new MC in my car that I have tried and tried and tried to get those stupid Fuching lines to seat and seal in. If you could PLEASE put a reasonable fitting on it,.....I'm in.
Posted by: fixer34 Oct 22 2015, 07:35 PM
I'll join the crowd. I'm assuming this is a proper replacement for a '70 -6? I think mine is still the original MC; maybe replaced the insides about 25yrs ago, but it still holds a solid pedal.
Probably pull all the calipers and send to PMB (?) for rebuild this winter
Posted by: jkb944t Oct 22 2015, 08:20 PM
I'll interested in one too.
Jeff B
Posted by: mepstein Oct 22 2015, 08:29 PM
i'm in for at least 3
Posted by: 914-300Hemi Oct 22 2015, 08:38 PM
Count me in for one.
Posted by: euro911 Dec 3 2015, 01:35 AM
Mark, maybe you could cross-post this on the 912BBS too
Posted by: mgp4591 Dec 3 2015, 02:35 AM
When will we learn more about this? 
Posted by: jacquot Dec 3 2015, 10:05 AM
I'm in for one.
Posted by: worn Dec 3 2015, 10:57 AM
I'm in for one.
Count me in too for 1.
Posted by: AndyB Dec 3 2015, 11:47 AM
Price? Or did I miss that?
Posted by: rfinegan Dec 3 2015, 11:53 AM
+1 please
Posted by: Amphicar770 Dec 3 2015, 12:18 PM
+1 for me
Posted by: budk Dec 3 2015, 01:54 PM
Price? Or did I miss that?
you missed it.... " NEW Group Buy 914 Master Cylinders $110 each" .... hidden in plain sight.
Posted by: Mike D. Dec 3 2015, 01:57 PM
I want 1 too, or 2 too, maybe.
Posted by: 80cap Dec 3 2015, 02:18 PM
I also am in for one
Posted by: mbseto Dec 3 2015, 02:26 PM
I think there was another thread recently cautioning against getting a larger master cylinder with the stock calipers. IIRC, the problem was that braking becomes less progressive. My gut tells me 17mm to 19mm is probably OK, can someone share practical experience?
Posted by: Dave_Darling Dec 3 2015, 06:23 PM
When you install a larger master cylinder, you reduce your "hydraulic advantage" over the caliper pistons. It's almost exactly the same effect as moving the pivot point of the brake pedal.
The 19mm M/C has 25% more area to the piston than the 17mm one does. That means to get the same clamping force at the calipers, you have to exert 25% harder, though the pedal moves 25% less distance.
Most people seem to agree that the 19mm is a reasonable swap, but going up to 23mm (which I believe the earlier thread was talking about) is a Very Bad Idea unless you are significantly upgrading the caliper piston sizes.
--DD
Posted by: mb911 Dec 3 2015, 07:21 PM
I would also be in for one
Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 3 2015, 08:14 PM
I'm in for one for sure...maybe put me down for two.
I don't think you'll have any trouble getting rid of the extra one if I don't take it.
Posted by: 7TPorsh Dec 4 2015, 02:33 PM
I'd be in for a 17mm.
Posted by: PotterPorsche Dec 4 2015, 03:37 PM
I'm in for 1
Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 4 2015, 04:04 PM
I'd be in for a 17mm.
If I get the jist Mikey (Mark) trying to put together the numbers for a fair size production run, so he's likely he's going to only be able to do the one size, 19mm.
19mm was likely chosen as it's the best size for a large enough production run to re-coop his investment from both the 914 and 911 crowd.
Likely he can't get the same per unit price on smaller runs for different sizes.
Posted by: jcd914 Dec 4 2015, 04:17 PM
I'd be in for a 17mm.
If I get the jist Mikey (Mark) trying to put together the numbers for a fair size production run, so he's likely he's going to only be able to do the one size, 19mm.
19mm was likely chosen as it's the best size for a large enough production run to re-coop his investment from both the 914 and 911 crowd.
Likely he can't get the same per unit price on smaller runs for different sizes.
That is what he says back in post 38.
I am in....Is there a larger(23? )mm option?Is this even necessary if i do a larger engine
Possible,
I'll be discussing with Eric tomorrow. Going to see how we can optimize the program.
Mark
Looks like we are best at sticking with the 19mm for the time being. Yes we will be proceeding on these. May even make some improvements
Posted by: 7TPorsh Dec 4 2015, 04:27 PM
I'd like to get one, too.
However, if at all possible, I'd prefer to get one that is the correct stock size for my '73 1.7, since I'm planning to keep it all-stock. Any chance of doing a second GB at some point for the original size?
What is the original size, anyway? 17mm?
I'll get you covered, trust me
Guess I should have quoted. i assumed 17mm would be covered at some point. Can't you just sleeve the cylinder down to 17mm? I obviously have no clue.
"I would gladly pay you today for a 17mm on Tuesday."
Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 4 2015, 10:29 PM
These will be 19mm.
Progress is that we are working on the tooling for the casting now. We have located a new ATE sample and are reverse engineering it. There are over 20 parts we will need to fabricate to make this we have 3 done at this point. Just like making a V2 rocket, but we will be doing some extensive testing on it to. It's being made with under our new manufacturing division. It will be a fully engineered part.
Posted by: 02loftsmoor Dec 5 2015, 12:06 AM
I'm working on having new master cylinders made for the 914's. They are going to be 19mm to crossover for the 911 also. Now you can get a quality part at a reasonable price. These are about 90 days out, but they will be a quality product, that is fully engineered, not some junk imported from China.
Who's in?
I'm in
Posted by: eric914 Dec 5 2015, 10:34 AM
+1
Posted by: Bossman Dec 5 2015, 10:54 AM
+2
Posted by: restore2seater Dec 5 2015, 11:00 AM
Add 1 to the list for me.
Posted by: kid914 Dec 5 2015, 11:43 AM
me likes new parts...even more when they are improved....
in for 1... 
Posted by: TC 914-8 Dec 31 2015, 12:07 PM
Mark I'm in for 1 if they are still available ?!?!
Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 31 2015, 02:56 PM
Actually not ready yet. SO no problem.
Mark
Posted by: TC 914-8 Dec 31 2015, 06:42 PM
When you install a larger master cylinder, you reduce your "hydraulic advantage" over the caliper pistons. It's almost exactly the same effect as moving the pivot point of the brake pedal.
The 19mm M/C has 25% more area to the piston than the 17mm one does. That means to get the same clamping force at the calipers, you have to exert 25% harder, though the pedal moves 25% less distance.
Most people seem to agree that the 19mm is a reasonable swap, but going up to 23mm (which I believe the earlier thread was talking about) is a Very Bad Idea unless you are significantly upgrading the caliper piston sizes.
--DD
Dave,
My car has the Brembo Boxster calipers up front, not sure if the MC was ever changed. My petal is still soft after many bleedings and purgings. You think a 19mm is a good choice? Or 23mm that came w boxters?
I have stocks w V kit in rear
Just curious
T
Posted by: 914bub Jan 4 2016, 09:56 AM
Mark
Not to beat a dead horse,....but......any word on weather you might tap the reservoir hose holes for actual fittings? My MC is brand new and works well besides that,(it leaks). If you tap those I'm in, otherwise I can't really justify buying another. Any info would be great.
Thanks again for all you do for us!
Posted by: danoswork Jan 4 2016, 09:59 AM
Actually not ready yet. SO no problem.
Mark
interested in one, local, live in Tigard.
Cheers!
Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 4 2016, 10:00 AM
We have a better solution for these that when available you more than likely will want. Unfortunately, since we are actually doing testing on these and the number of parts required to make these means we have to work on it one at a time. It will be awhile before these are available.
Posted by: enikolayev Jan 4 2016, 10:12 AM
Count me in for one as well.
Eugene
Posted by: 914bub Jan 4 2016, 10:36 AM
We have a better solution for these .......
Could you give any more insight into improvements? If it's too early in the game I understand.
Posted by: whitetwinturbo Jan 4 2016, 11:57 AM
+1 please 
Posted by: maddin Jan 4 2016, 03:41 PM
I'd have one too please!
Posted by: 02loftsmoor Jan 4 2016, 03:58 PM
If I didn't put my name in the hat, I am now..
Wes
Posted by: ctkellett Jan 4 2016, 08:15 PM
I am in for one.
Posted by: Dave_Darling Jan 4 2016, 09:34 PM
My car has the Brembo Boxster calipers up front, not sure if the MC was ever changed. My petal is still soft after many bleedings and purgings. You think a 19mm is a good choice? Or 23mm that came w boxters?
The Boxster MC will be boosted. Without a power assist, you may find that the 32mm one requires a large amount of leg to activate.
I don't know what the piston sizes in the Boxster calipers are like compared with the stock ones. It's good to keep near the stock ratio of total caliper piston area to master cylinder piston area, but I don't know the specific numbers for your case. But that should keep the pedal effort near stock.
--DD
Posted by: pneuhyde Jan 4 2016, 10:35 PM
I am in for one, too.
Steve
Posted by: marksteinhilber Jan 5 2016, 12:22 AM
I'll need one too. I'm reworking all brakes as I complete the five lug upgrade and refresh the suspension. Just over a year on the jack stands... Count me in.
Posted by: mbseto Jan 5 2016, 11:06 AM
I'm thinking I'll be in for one by the time they come out. Why so early in the process, is the GB more for gauging interest than economics?
Posted by: marksteinhilber Mar 11 2016, 01:02 PM
Any news on progress, improvements, and how far out on these? Excited about the ugrade and planned improvements. I hope the connection for the reservoir lines is one of them! 
Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 11 2016, 02:00 PM
Yes some progress, but there are many parts we have to make to get these done, I'd like to say they will be ready on X date, but it's a dart in the calendar at this point. I can say by end of summer (or before) I will have a needed related item.
Posted by: RoadGlue Mar 11 2016, 05:12 PM
Thanks for the update. I missed this the first time around. +1 for sure.
Posted by: NeunEinVier Mar 11 2016, 06:39 PM
Cool, video the testing while you're at it, no doubt everybody would like to see it.
Posted by: SKL1 Mar 11 2016, 07:24 PM
Boy if these have some better arrangement for the supply lines I'd be in for 2. I absolutely HATE getting those damned lines to fit and get the rubber connections and washers in correctly, especially without removing the gas tank!!!!
Posted by: Kansas 914 Mar 12 2016, 01:51 PM
I can say by end of summer (or before) I will have a needed related item.
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Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 12 2016, 07:55 PM
Cool, video the testing while you're at it, no doubt everybody would like to see it.
We will be sending these parts out for independent testing. So maybe, I would expect these will be poles of documentation
Posted by: 914-300Hemi Sep 3 2016, 02:21 AM
Mark,
Any update on this?
Posted by: v82go Sep 3 2016, 06:22 AM
I am driving on limited time (URO) now, so please add me to the list if its not too late. thanks Bob
Posted by: Mark Henry Sep 3 2016, 10:18 AM
I said that I would take one and maybe two MC's, now if this comes together I'd be for sure on the two...
Please don't make me buy a URO 
Posted by: smj Sep 3 2016, 05:06 PM
In for one, maybe two. Curious about what the improvements will be...
Posted by: Mikey914 Sep 3 2016, 10:04 PM
These are still in the works, and the improvements will be significant. Still I wouldn't buy URO again, after having the new master cylinder fail in less than 5 miles! Eric has the ATE's at PMB and if you are doing the job, do it right, and do it once, hey what the heck they are only brakes!
Posted by: Mikey914 Sep 3 2016, 10:05 PM
This project is literally like building a V2 rocket, we keep redesigning things. Lets say they will more than likely out last the factory ones! Still months away, but will be worth the wait.
Posted by: turbonet Sep 15 2016, 03:16 PM
I'm in if not too late.
Posted by: Mikey914 Sep 15 2016, 03:40 PM
Not too late.
Still building these just lots of parts, and they have to work well together
Posted by: turnaround89 Sep 15 2016, 09:03 PM
I'm in for one as well!
Posted by: N_Jay Sep 15 2016, 09:11 PM
Any improvement over the ATE part?
I just installed a 20 some year old NOS ATE 19mm one.
Posted by: Mikey914 Sep 16 2016, 12:27 AM
There are some changes we want to make in the casting, but it's the last part we will be making. It will at least be comparable to the ATE part.
Posted by: enikolayev Sep 16 2016, 08:18 AM
In for one as well.
Posted by: brownaar Oct 27 2016, 07:27 AM
I'll take one as well.
Aaron
Posted by: BeemerSteve Oct 27 2016, 07:39 AM
+1 yes!!
Posted by: rgolia Oct 27 2016, 10:02 AM
Count me in for 1
Posted by: Amphicar770 Oct 27 2016, 10:27 AM
Count me in for 1
These were 90 days out over a year ago.
Posted by: blackmoon Oct 27 2016, 10:44 AM
I'm in for one 19
Posted by: dtkennedy930 Oct 27 2016, 11:05 AM
>> Who's in?
If you have any opening I'd like to acquire one. Have recently installed a URO one and you have me suspicious. Not sure if that's the only reason the brakes are feeling a bit "vintage" but have rebuilt calipers, new lines and a couple fluid flushes.
Thanks,
D
Posted by: 914Sixer Oct 27 2016, 01:38 PM
Put me down for one 19 mm.
Posted by: 02loftsmoor Oct 27 2016, 02:49 PM
I need one Wes
Posted by: aggiezig Feb 27 2017, 11:26 PM
I realize this is an old thread... but any update / did this ever make it to production?
Posted by: Mikey914 Feb 28 2017, 01:24 AM
Very timely.
We have all the drawings complete and have pulled the trigger on getting all the parts made on this. We will be making the housing from aluminum and hard coat anodizing it. The 1st parts will be ready in about 8-9 weeks and we will have a optin for a customization I think many of you will like.
Mark
Posted by: djway Feb 28 2017, 03:19 AM
Posted by: falcor75 Feb 28 2017, 04:59 AM
option.....?
threaded connection for the reservoir hoses??
Posted by: Mikey914 Feb 28 2017, 10:46 AM
Lets' just say they will install without as many swear words.
Posted by: turnaround89 Feb 28 2017, 12:58 PM
Id like one as well, count me in for a new 19mm MC.
Posted by: amfab Feb 28 2017, 01:05 PM
Very interested, count me in
Posted by: aggiezig Feb 28 2017, 01:06 PM
Glad I posted... Please count me in for one!
Posted by: paintracer1 Feb 28 2017, 01:51 PM
I'm in for 2. Thanks
Posted by: djway Feb 28 2017, 08:26 PM
In for two
Posted by: 914Sixer Feb 28 2017, 08:29 PM
In for one for sure
Posted by: Kansas 914 Feb 28 2017, 08:33 PM
I definitely need 2 of them.
Well done Mark!
Posted by: cali914 Feb 28 2017, 08:44 PM
I'm in need one
Posted by: mobymutt Feb 28 2017, 09:00 PM
I'll take one.
Posted by: Mike D. Feb 28 2017, 09:12 PM
Still Interested!
Posted by: duane33 Feb 28 2017, 09:23 PM
I will take also
Posted by: Hans Jan Feb 28 2017, 09:48 PM
Please let me know when and how I can order this.
Will you send us a message to go to your place on the world wide web?
My car needs one. So I will get it for her.
Count me in.
Br,
Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 1 2017, 12:29 AM
I will contact all on the thread to see who's in. Our initial "test run we plan to do 5. One for my car to test, as well as 2 or each variation. We will be creating a test bed and procedure for these so we can assure quality, then we can release a few of these for testing. This also gives us an idea of how we want to set these up for the main production run.
I'm really excited that these will be a big step forward on quality at an affordable price.
Posted by: falcor75 Mar 1 2017, 12:43 AM
Lets' just say they will install without as many swear words.
"914 Rubber, makes the 914 great again"
Posted by: turbonet Mar 1 2017, 01:17 AM
Interested.
Posted by: yellow75 Mar 1 2017, 07:12 AM
I'm in..Why did I just buy one. Dammit.
Posted by: Kansas 914 Mar 1 2017, 07:46 AM
The Early 911 group will eat these up as well.
Great idea to make this!
Posted by: GregAmy Mar 1 2017, 08:10 AM
To avoid slogging through 8 pages...do we have a rough idea of expected price? I'm sure both the street and racer could use some brakes refreshing.
Posted by: Kansas 914 Mar 1 2017, 08:11 AM
To avoid slogging through 8 pages...do we have a rough idea of expected price? I'm sure both the street and racer could use some brakes refreshing.
In the thread title:
"NEW Group Buy 914 Master Cylinders $110 each, Have a company in the US that can make them"
Smoking deal!
Posted by: GregAmy Mar 1 2017, 09:42 AM
In the thread title:
Posted by: Kansas 914 Mar 1 2017, 09:43 AM
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Posted by: dflesburg Mar 1 2017, 09:55 AM
sorry.
Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 1 2017, 11:49 AM
To avoid slogging through 8 pages...do we have a rough idea of expected price? I'm sure both the street and racer could use some brakes refreshing.
In the thread title:
"NEW Group Buy 914 Master Cylinders $110 each, Have a company in the US that can make them"
Smoking deal!
Is the GB price still going to be the same now that some of the spec has changed or TBA?
That said I'm still in for a couple.
Posted by: Costa05 Jun 19 2017, 05:25 PM
I am interested in the GB as well for one. If it is still open at least. Any recent update on schedule that i am missing?
Posted by: 76-914 Jun 19 2017, 05:59 PM
I'll bet we're a year out, minimum. That's a huge undertaking.
Posted by: 914Sixer Jun 19 2017, 07:19 PM
Mark said they are close.
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 20 2017, 12:53 AM
To avoid slogging through 8 pages...do we have a rough idea of expected price? I'm sure both the street and racer could use some brakes refreshing.
In the thread title:
"NEW Group Buy 914 Master Cylinders $110 each, Have a company in the US that can make them"
Smoking deal!
Is the GB price still going to be the same now that some of the spec has changed or TBA?
That said I'm still in for a couple.
We wound up having to part ways with the original company we were working wit. Everything was late and over budget, and not just a little. We did get a solid company to work with on these and have made a significant improvement on the part that when shown you will probably want. It will be a small upgrade and we are adding another option that you may want to add, but when this comes together (hopefully in about 12 days) it will be worth the wait.
Posted by: Kansas 914 Jun 20 2017, 04:45 AM
It will be a small upgrade and we are adding another option that you may want to add, but when this comes together (hopefully in about 12 days) it will be worth the wait.
Posted by: bbrock Jun 20 2017, 07:27 AM
Is it too late to get in on this?
Posted by: ValcoOscar Jun 20 2017, 07:29 AM
Yes Sir....I'm in for two
Thanks
Posted by: 914itis Jun 20 2017, 07:56 AM
In for 1 if not too late
Posted by: markhoward Jun 20 2017, 08:25 AM
Still in for one..
Posted by: PanelBilly Jun 20 2017, 08:51 AM
Is it too late to get in on this?
Me too
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 20 2017, 09:03 AM
Nope and I suspect that there will be a few others when they see them.
Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jun 20 2017, 09:10 AM
17mm? 19mm?
Posted by: Kansas 914 Jun 20 2017, 01:32 PM
17mm? 19mm?
Jeff - IIRC it will be 19mm. The 911 guys will eat it up and the 914 works well with 19mm. That said, I liked the 17mm that was in my early '72. If someone REALLY wants a 17mm they are out there: http://www.pmbperformance.com/catalog/item/1925563/1475460.htm
Posted by: mepstein Jun 20 2017, 03:42 PM
"The 911 guys will eat it up"
Possibly. Remember, a lot of 911 guys order from pelican and other 911 online part stores, Many will want a brand name they are familiar with. Many repair shops order from Porsche, Worldpac and SSF. So it really depends ...
Posted by: Kansas 914 Jun 20 2017, 03:47 PM
"The 911 guys will eat it up"
Possibly. Remember, a lot of 911 guys order from pelican and other 911 online part stores, Many will want a brand name they are familiar with. Many repair shops order from Porsche, Worldpac and SSF. So it really depends ...
Good point -
Posted by: Morph914 Jun 20 2017, 04:53 PM
I'm working on having new master cylinders made for the 914's. They are going to be 19mm to crossover for the 911 also. Now you can get a quality part at a reasonable price. These are about 90 days out, but they will be a quality product, that is fully engineered, not some junk imported from China.
Who's in?
I would like one.
Thanks,
John
Posted by: Jgilliam914 Jun 21 2017, 07:13 AM
I am in for 2!
Posted by: mepstein Jun 21 2017, 07:30 AM
"The 911 guys will eat it up"
Possibly. Remember, a lot of 911 guys order from pelican and other 911 online part stores, Many will want a brand name they are familiar with. Many repair shops order from Porsche, Worldpac and SSF. So it really depends ...
Good point -
And I'm not implying that Mark's product won't be equal or superior to what's currently offered. It's just many shops differ from the way a lot of us search out parts. They traditionally order from a couple major suppliers and that's it.
Posted by: Kansas 914 Jun 21 2017, 07:41 AM
And I'm not implying that Mark's product won't be equal or superior to what's currently offered. It's just many shops differ from the way a lot of us search out parts. They traditionally order from a couple major suppliers and that's it.
I knew exactly what you meant - it is changing old habits. Perhaps if the upgrade/features are worthy then the word will spread and the rest will be history.
Posted by: westo2 Jun 21 2017, 04:30 PM
If this is still available - I'm in on one!
Posted by: 02loftsmoor Jun 21 2017, 07:57 PM
still in for one
Posted by: turnaround89 Jun 21 2017, 10:53 PM
I'm still in for one. Can't wait to see the part!! Keep up the great work!
Posted by: Mikey914 Jun 21 2017, 11:34 PM
Yes 19mm. Soon very soon.
Posted by: pete-stevers Jun 21 2017, 11:51 PM
I will need one too!
Posted by: john77 Jun 22 2017, 01:24 AM
I'm in for one.
Posted by: jesse7flying Jun 22 2017, 08:33 AM
Put me down for one please.
Posted by: seanpaulmc Jun 22 2017, 11:28 AM
Yes please. I am in for one.
Posted by: rvanderpyl Jun 23 2017, 08:51 PM
I have been ignoring all the group buys because I have to many basic things to fix before spending money on stuff I won't need for years, but this one I have to jump one.
So I am in.
Posted by: turnaround89 Jul 10 2017, 10:17 PM
Any update on the master cylinder?
Posted by: amfab Jul 10 2017, 10:39 PM
in for one as well
Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 10 2017, 11:22 PM
Good news the casting (one of the final pieces is now done we are working with a finishing company to put a durable finish on these and I'm supposed to be able to pick up a sample Thursday afternoon!
Assembly will follow as soon as we finish 2 more parts (in the next week or so). There was no point in doing up too many castings until we had all parts ready and the coating is one of the last steps here!
I'll post pics as soon as I have in hand
Posted by: Mark Henry Jul 11 2017, 07:51 AM
Guys if you look at the timeline of this thread it shows you how long it takes to get an idea on paper to product. Plus the fact that this is not just a simple part.
Lots of time and money invested from any member who builds a product like this for us.
Thanks Mark for doing this 
Posted by: Kansas 914 Jul 11 2017, 08:16 AM
Guys if you look at the timeline of this thread it shows you how long it takes to get an idea on paper to product. Plus the fact that this is not just a simple part.
Lots of time and money invested from any member who builds a product like this for us.
Thanks Mark for doing this
Posted by: mb911 Jul 11 2017, 08:22 AM
Guys if you look at the timeline of this thread it shows you how long it takes to get an idea on paper to product. Plus the fact that this is not just a simple part.
Lots of time and money invested from any member who builds a product like this for us.
Thanks Mark for doing this
That is for sure as both you and I can verify that.
Posted by: Dion Jul 11 2017, 09:58 AM
A 19mm for me please!
Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 11 2017, 10:06 AM
Guys if you look at the timeline of this thread it shows you how long it takes to get an idea on paper to product. Plus the fact that this is not just a simple part.
Lots of time and money invested from any member who builds a product like this for us.
Thanks Mark for doing this
That and it has to be right!
Posted by: Mark Henry Jul 11 2017, 10:06 AM
Guys if you look at the timeline of this thread it shows you how long it takes to get an idea on paper to product. Plus the fact that this is not just a simple part.
Lots of time and money invested from any member who builds a product like this for us.
Thanks Mark for doing this
That is for sure as both you and I can verify that.
Yes
I want peeps who are a bit on the impatient side to realize that these products don't just magically appear.
It takes time to plan, prototype, test, fix issues, 2nd prototype, test, fix issues, rinse repeat, finally put into production, then assemble before a product is ready for prime time.
To quote Homer..."Patience my pet."
Posted by: shoguneagle Jul 30 2017, 04:57 PM
Just knowing the need for critical parts such as the master cylinder AND knowing how Mikey has developed parts in the past everything done will provide a great part. I would take pride in knowing that A UNITED STATES PART PRODUCTION was on my car.
The development appears a lot like how we restore our cars. We expect to complete our cars in 1-2 years; several years we are still working on them and they have developed a reputation of being "jack stand" zombies. This is not the case in what Mikey is trying to do; he has been constantly working, searching, adjusting, etc to bring a new complex product to market for our needs. He has put up with a bad factory builder situation and has changed in mid-stream to move ahead. A lot of "cheer and encouragement" goes to Mikey for pursuing this part development.
What is being done is going to be better the URO parts. 1000 fold better.
If Mikey is doing it, it will be done right; quality, and function will be there.
There is an old tv commercial regarding a kid called "Mikey". This situation reminds me of the saying, "Where is Mikey??? Mikey is out playing with new parts development. Therefore, let Mikey do it!!". I have the highest respect for all his parts he has developed in the past; they are on my 12 year 914 restoration.
Without all our suppliers/manufacturers/developers we could not have supported/restored so many of our 914s that are on the road. They would still be resting on jack stands.
Thanks, Mikey and the rest of our suppliers for taking on large tasks such as this one and getting them completed.
Steve Hurt
PS: If there are any left, you can put me down for one. 
Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 30 2017, 05:10 PM
Good news is these have been completely made - All parts are done. We have assembled one and set to an independent party for verification of fitment and some testing.
We've been a little quite about these lately as we want to do these right.
With that being said not all part are 100% US. We were able to source some spring clips and a few other parts. We were happy with the performance, or we would not have proceeded. I wanted to disclose that we did do this, but we unlike the name we shall not mention are actually committed to QC on these parts.
We anticipate word in the next 10 days or so, then full production to follow!!!
Posted by: drem914 Jul 30 2017, 06:17 PM
Perfect timing. I am in for one as soon as they are available.
Posted by: shoguneagle Jul 30 2017, 06:26 PM
Like I said earlier. "Let Mikey do it!". This also means giving credit to all the others who supported and were involved in getting this job done. There is always a little outsourcing but the focus was US made.
Posted by: turnaround89 Jul 30 2017, 08:42 PM
Keep up the great work! Can't wait to see(buy) the new part!
Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 31 2017, 12:59 AM
Also there is a secret upgrade that we will announce as an option for those that want it.
Posted by: Frankvw Jul 31 2017, 02:32 AM
Thanks for the update. The secret update is keeping us in suspense here !
Give us a hint.... willll it be a 914 specific update...?
Thanks for the development in this area.
Posted by: westo2 Jul 31 2017, 05:43 AM
Perfect timing!
Posted by: db9146 Jul 31 2017, 08:35 AM
I'm in for 1...maybe 2.
Posted by: Mikey914 Jul 31 2017, 10:46 AM
Thanks for the update. The secret update is keeping us in suspense here !
Give us a hint.... willll it be a 914 specific update...?
Thanks for the development in this area.
Yes it is specific to this part. I think it will be a hit. once you know what it is I think most will want it.
Posted by: 76-914 Jul 31 2017, 10:54 AM
It must be a new attach method for the hoses off the reservoir.
Posted by: 911buff Jul 31 2017, 03:05 PM
I am in for one, if any are not spoken for!!!!
Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 1 2017, 01:22 AM
We've geared up to do 100 on the 1st run. so there should be plenty to go around.
Posted by: markhoward Aug 1 2017, 08:28 AM
also in for one
Posted by: amfab Aug 1 2017, 09:55 AM
Me2
Posted by: Nie Zu Alt Aug 1 2017, 10:59 AM
Put me down for one also!
Thanks,
Doug
Posted by: JoeD Aug 1 2017, 11:00 AM
Mark not sure if I ever put my hand up, but put me on the list for one if you are making a list!
Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 1 2017, 11:50 AM
Thanks, we are anticipating some feedback on the evaluation late this week. I'm guessing Friday'ish.
I'm not pressing the company to push this through. It's done on their time and they have been quite busy, so as soon as I can confirm we will go into full production.
Mark
Posted by: drem914 Aug 10 2017, 02:40 PM
Just checking how the evaluation went???? 
Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 10 2017, 05:18 PM
I'm hoping to hear tomorrow. I'd love to go forward on production for these, but until we have the OK we can't.
Our QC checked out, but it's all about the details.
Posted by: drem914 Aug 11 2017, 10:26 AM
I'm hoping to hear tomorrow. I'd love to go forward on production for these, but until we have the OK we can't.
Our QC checked out, but it's all about the details.
Thanks, currently holding off on replacing my MC until your GB goes forward. The refurbished visors showed up yesterday and they look great. I will put them in this weekend.
Posted by: turnaround89 Aug 23 2017, 04:39 PM
Any word yet? Can't wait to see these. Im sure they are worth the wait.
Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 24 2017, 12:18 AM
Testing will wrap up Friday. We need 10,000 cycles min.
Posted by: SKL1 Aug 24 2017, 11:29 AM
Haven't gone all the way back thru the thread, but if you're making a 19mm I'd take 2.
Posted by: Ed_Turbo Aug 25 2017, 02:37 PM
These are about 90 days out, but they will be a quality product, that is fully engineered, not some junk imported from China.
Who's in?
That is what I am talking about! I was about to do a brake flush but I think I will hold out and do the 19mm master cylinder as well.
Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 27 2017, 10:20 AM
Yes these are 19mm and more pick to follow this week as testing wraps up.
Mark
Posted by: Morrie Aug 27 2017, 11:16 AM
I am in for 1 for sure for the 914, and a second for the 68 912 if the modifications do not conflict with fitment there. Very cool and very exciting!
Posted by: Mikey914 Aug 27 2017, 03:24 PM
Will be selling the bone stock version and the "improved version", so would be able to get you one.
Posted by: KELTY360 Oct 13 2017, 09:56 PM
What is the status of this? I'd be in for one.
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 13 2017, 10:32 PM
Evaluation went well, we got over 10,000 cycles on the test unit before the weld broke. It kept cycling for some time, so we are not really shur how many more , but we were comfortable there were at leas that many. Never thought that we should put a kill switch on it, so it cycled for some time after.
Our evaluation as show that the design has worked and we are satisfied on the outcome. The housings are machined and in finishing. Assembly work will begin as soon as we get them back as we are finishing up some of the internals parallel to this. We didn't want a bunch of parts sitting on the shelf if we had to re work the part after we evaluated it. We are on track for 1st parts end of the month and as soon as we all the pieces of the puzzle ready we will open the flood gates.
As I mentioned we are working on some special enhancements to the assembly that as soon as we are ready will announce as some options you can add if you see fit.
Lots of pieces coming together on this one, literally over a year in making. I may not always be the fastest, but I will stick to it until it's done.
Posted by: 914Sixer Oct 14 2017, 07:40 AM
Posted by: 76-914 Oct 14 2017, 10:09 AM
Hopefully one of those enhancements is threaded ports vs.the push in style.
Posted by: PanelBilly Oct 14 2017, 11:12 AM
Hopefully one of those enhancements is threaded ports vs.the push in style.
Posted by: Mark Henry Oct 14 2017, 11:29 AM
Not an immediate need, but I'm going to grab at least two when available.
Posted by: BeatNavy Oct 14 2017, 11:39 AM
Hopefully one of those enhancements is threaded ports vs.the push in style.
I think that's everyone's best guess at this point, although Mark's being coy. Would really make swapping a m/c easier, if not just plain easy.
I'm in for 1.
Posted by: turnaround89 Oct 14 2017, 01:22 PM
Great to hear, can't wait to order 1
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 14 2017, 01:50 PM
Yes,
I',m not letting the cat out of the bag yet, but there are some improvements that we have made that you will see an an obvious advantage, but if not we can sell you the "factory" version. Still working out price points, but the stock version will probably be a few bucks less.
Posted by: Calwaterbear Oct 14 2017, 03:12 PM
in for one improved version
Posted by: Ed_Turbo Oct 14 2017, 03:46 PM
Good luck with that Mark. I got a great deal for an ATE so I could not pass.
-Ed
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 14 2017, 03:54 PM
Are you sure it was an ATE? Best price I've seen is 210.
Either way after you see the Improvement that we've made I think you would have been happy to pay more.
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 14 2017, 04:16 PM
I am in....Is there a larger(23? )mm option?Is this even necessary if i do a larger engine
We have not made it 23 mm version. For our application that's completely Overkill not to say that we might not make one in the future, but first we are going to perfect what we need for the 914
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 28 2017, 04:22 PM
We've machined the 1st 50 and assembled with the testing just wrapping up. I will post more on the details of the improvements this next week. Just been too busy with all of this to get good pictures and give a full explanation. I spent the entire morning just on the computer getting notifications to all.
I think you will find these worth the wait.
Thanks to all,
Mark
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Posted by: mb911 Oct 28 2017, 04:27 PM
Looks great
Posted by: cuddyk Oct 28 2017, 04:29 PM
I'm in for 1!
Posted by: ConeDodger Oct 28 2017, 05:43 PM
Well damn. I bought a new ATE about 10 years back, but that looks like something I could put on the shelf and hold on to.
In for one of the improved models.
Posted by: RoadGlue Oct 28 2017, 06:35 PM
Ordered mine, thank you!!
Posted by: turnaround89 Oct 28 2017, 07:37 PM
Order mine with the easy install option. Thank you!
Posted by: SKL1 Oct 28 2017, 08:45 PM
The easy install option looks like a no brainer! Working on the MC etc is one job I HATE the most! The easy install option may also make it actually possible to replace the MC without removing the gas tank!!
Posted by: KELTY360 Oct 28 2017, 09:07 PM
Ordered with easy install option. Perfect timing!
Posted by: djway Oct 28 2017, 09:35 PM
Order placed A big Thank You!
Posted by: mb911 Oct 29 2017, 06:43 AM
Where do we order this?? I didn't see a link?
Posted by: sb914 Oct 29 2017, 07:07 AM
Placed order and paid. Not sure the clamps ,hoses,nipples ,are included for the "easy-installment" didn't see that option?
Posted by: Shadowfax Oct 29 2017, 07:19 AM
Thanks, Mark! Just placed my order.
Posted by: 914-300Hemi Oct 29 2017, 10:22 AM
Mark,
Looks like a great product. Unfortunately I couldn’t wait had just installed a 19mm ATE mc from Pmb
The easy option looks like a great option and it will make the install much easier.
Posted by: enikolayev Oct 29 2017, 10:24 AM
Placed order and paid. Not sure the clamps ,hoses,nipples ,are included for the "easy-installment" didn't see that option?
You have to check a box before adding to cart to select the option.
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 29 2017, 10:32 AM
Placed order and paid. Not sure the clamps ,hoses,nipples ,are included for the "easy-installment" didn't see that option?
PM me the last name, I can convert your order over to the easy. I'm really happy with the way they turned out I'll post some more details on the easy option this afternoon.
I'll forward PMs to all here shortly for the code.
The link is right here, but if you want the code you have to sign up on the thread.
http://shop.914rubber.com/searchquick-submit.sc;jsessionid=70B94AC4AE1DB534613F2A2836566F41.p3plqscsfapp003?keywords=master
Posted by: Morrie Oct 29 2017, 10:48 AM
Placed my order just now. Thanks Mike. I do admire your ambition here taking on critical systems like brakes. We appreciate your hard work. Looking forward to reviews from folks who get these installed. Mine will go in when I finish my brake system refresh. I've got my front PMB calipers, new front hard lines, and soft lines all done. Next will be rear calipers, lines, the "ABS" regulator, and the MC.
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 29 2017, 12:20 PM
Working from home today but I can give you a little idea of what the easy option looks like.
We have the fittings made and the fit is so tight on the hose you can literally suspend it by the hose. The clearance on the barb makes it an easy push on. However, we are including the clamps just to make sure there are no problems.
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Posted by: bobboinski Oct 29 2017, 12:31 PM
I'm in for one.
Posted by: 74ravenna Oct 29 2017, 01:15 PM
I'll take one please and thank you.
Posted by: cdn914 Oct 29 2017, 02:31 PM
I'll take one.
Posted by: SKL1 Oct 29 2017, 07:22 PM
Just ordered one with easy option. Anything is better than those damned rubber boots!!!
Posted by: Dck356 Oct 29 2017, 08:00 PM
I'll take one too. Thanks Mike!
Posted by: Chris Scott Oct 29 2017, 08:53 PM
I will take on too with the easy option
Posted by: 914six Oct 30 2017, 08:25 AM
Hello,
how much for 19 mm with easy option..? also will you make a 23mm
with easy option..? Very interested in both. Please contact me at
porschesix2003@yahoo.com
Thanks,
harry
Posted by: 76-914 Oct 30 2017, 10:52 AM
Ordered mine this weekend. Thx again for doing this Mark.
Posted by: drem914 Oct 30 2017, 10:55 AM
Mike, I asked how it was going, but never asked to be put on the GB. Please put me down for one. Now I can finish up my brake refresh. Thanks,
Posted by: 02loftsmoor Oct 30 2017, 10:58 AM
I would like one also
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 30 2017, 02:50 PM
PMs sent to all so far (I think - Let me know if I missed anyone).
Also, we have have sold out all of the easy option. We are in production of the next 200 units and will have them finished up in 3 weeks (or less). The good news is we will keep the GB open until production is complete. The other items on GB will close Nov15th, but we have a whole new grouping of parts for GB that will be ready at that time so the good news is we can combine if you so choose. I can only say that they are a major grouping I think at least a few of you will want. Again with improvements to make your like easier.
Posted by: mepstein Oct 30 2017, 04:18 PM
There goes my kids Christmas present money
Posted by: rjames Oct 31 2017, 09:31 AM
Evaluation went well, we got over 10,000 cycles on the test unit before the weld broke. It kept cycling for some time, so we are not really shur how many more , but we were comfortable there were at leas that many. Never thought that we should put a kill switch on it, so it cycled for some time after.
What is the industry standard for acceptable number of cycles before a failure?
10,000 seems like a low number if it refers to the number of times the master cylinder is engaged, but maybe I'm thinking about it wrong.
Also curious if you tested for side-loading.
Not criticizing, just asking after coming across this web site: http://www.hydraulicspneumatics.com/cylinders-amp-actuators/how-we-test-cylinders-side-loading These are what stops the car after all.
For the record, I'm very happy you're making the part and have already bought one.
Posted by: Mikey914 Oct 31 2017, 10:10 AM
Well if URO is using industry standard it must be 5 cycles.
But seriously, we did do our homework, and have an outside company (that this is their business) running QC on these (each one) before they ship. This is one of the reasons it takes a little longer in the production cycle on these.
Posted by: Jazzy Oct 31 2017, 10:33 AM
I'm late to the party, but what if I would like one with the easy option too?
Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 3 2017, 09:20 PM
Update on the Easy Kit.
I went to do installation instructions today and noted that one of the components was not optimal. It’s the nipple closest to the foot pedal bulkhead. . We did clear the bulkhead t, but the hose was close enough that it was not an ideal install. We are re-machining these right now and will ship the rest out this last week. For those of you that we have shipped. We will send you the corrected part. We also included the splice hoses longer than you needed as they can be cut to length, but we will be finalizing the cut length to make for minimal cutting.
I appreciate your patience, we had been focused more on the master cylinder itself and the CQ for operation prior to shipping, and even though I had measured this all out before I had not allowed for the hose being installed. I have Taylor working on these this weekend and Carry will be helping to get the installation pics so we can show you the how to.
Sincerely,
Mark
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Posted by: RoadGlue Nov 3 2017, 11:52 PM
Thanks for the update and for making this kit in the first place. Can't wait, though no rush for my order.
Posted by: 76-914 Nov 4 2017, 05:41 PM
Update on the Easy Kit.
I went to do installation instructions today and noted that one of the components was not optimal. It’s the nipple closest to the foot pedal bulkhead. . We did clear the bulkhead t, but the hose was close enough that it was not an ideal install. We are re-machining these right now and will ship the rest out this last week. For those of you that we have shipped. We will send you the corrected part. We also included the splice hoses longer than you needed as they can be cut to length, but we will be finalizing the cut length to make for minimal cutting.
I appreciate your patience, we had been focused more on the master cylinder itself and the CQ for operation prior to shipping, and even though I had measured this all out before I had not allowed for the hose being installed. I have Taylor working on these this weekend and Carry will be helping to get the installation pics so we can show you the how to.
Sincerely,
Mark
In that case I'm glad I haven't received mine yet!
Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 4 2017, 09:34 PM
Actually had Cary I stall today. And we're modifying these to start you g out Wed. Thanks all. I just need to get the pics from Cary and I'll get the instructions done up too.
Posted by: 02loftsmoor Nov 6 2017, 12:02 PM
I've got my new Cylinder, I'm think I missed something, I do I need to buy the fitting kit?
Posted by: sb914 Nov 6 2017, 01:04 PM
Posted by: RoadGlue Nov 6 2017, 01:08 PM
Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 6 2017, 03:23 PM
I've got my new Cylinder, I'm think I missed something, I do I need to buy the fitting kit?
I can check, a few didn't opt for the easy option that decided they wanted it. Drop me a PM with your last name I can check.
We will allow for a upgrade after the fact, but you'll need to send the stock version back as it's not interchangeable. If its our mistake we will cover the postage back too.
Just PM me we can get you what you need.
Thanks,
Mark
Posted by: restore2seater Nov 13 2017, 04:33 PM
Any update, Mark?
Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 14 2017, 12:51 AM
Got the modified kit finalized and installed in my car. Doing instructions tomorrow. Been out at the day job since Friday. I'll be checking in and posting tomorrow. I know we are close on having all the pieces ready and will update delivery schedule.
Mark
Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 15 2017, 09:56 AM
Unfortunately, things got a little behind in my absence. The schedule to complete and have tested will put these just after thanksgiving. Look for these to ship the 27th. If we can get them earlier we will, but best to be done right.
Sincerely,
Mark W
We will be closing out the GB today as the end of the production run is eminent.
Posted by: Mueller Nov 15 2017, 11:56 AM
Unfortunately, things got a little behind in my absence. The schedule to complete and have tested will put these just after thanksgiving. Look for these to ship the 27th. If we can get them earlier we will, but best to be done right.
Sincerely,
Mark W
We will be closing out the GB today as the end of the production run is eminent.
Too late to get on it then? Saw that you are backdated on your website. ETA on new batch?
Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 15 2017, 04:43 PM
PM's sent
Posted by: GregAmy Nov 15 2017, 04:57 PM
Sorry if I missed it earlier in the thread, but is there a way to visually identify while on the car what MC is in it? I'm sure the street car has the original, but I want to know about the race car, which has shown itself to have a history of minor "regs-questionable" mods...
Posted by: Chris914n6 Nov 15 2017, 08:09 PM
I'd like one too with the easy option.
Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 15 2017, 10:00 PM
PMs sent
Posted by: 914six Nov 16 2017, 12:50 AM
hello,
i would like a 19mm master cylinder with the easy option..
can paypal you or give you my cc#..
Thanks,
Harry
porschesix2003@yahoo.com
Posted by: drem914 Nov 18 2017, 09:43 AM
Unfortunately, things got a little behind in my absence. The schedule to complete and have tested will put these just after thanksgiving. Look for these to ship the 27th. If we can get them earlier we will, but best to be done right.
Sincerely,
Mark W
We will be closing out the GB today as the end of the production run is eminent.
So shipping on these will take place after thanksgiving on all orders placed under the first and second wave of GB with the "easy kit option" included?
Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 19 2017, 12:41 PM
No not quite correct.
We are wrspping rhese up. We have an outside company running QC and are somewhat at the mercy of thier schedule. Thrse are supposed to be ready this week, so maybe some will run into Thanksgiving.
Also the easy kit IS AN OPTION,
You have to select it.
Because the body is machined differently you cant just add it onto the base model. We will take exchanges back for full credit and allow you to upgrade it if there is any confusion.
Posted by: Shadowfax Nov 19 2017, 04:30 PM
Mine arrived yesterday. Thanks, Mark.
Posted by: 76-914 Nov 19 2017, 09:17 PM
Me too. It's still in the box and will be for the next several months but what a deal.
Posted by: 02loftsmoor Nov 19 2017, 10:02 PM
what is the easy kit???
Posted by: Mikey914 Nov 21 2017, 06:46 PM
The easy kit is a modified master cylinder that allows for easier installation with solid connections. Designed to minimize the swearing required with the OEM version.
Posted by: JoeD Dec 1 2017, 10:05 AM
Mark, I received my new master cylinder with easy-install option; planning on doing the install this weekend. I haven't seen the install write-up- maybe it's buried in thread and I've missed it. Will it be obvious how the easy-install kit connects to the reservoir lines?
Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 1 2017, 10:41 AM
It's actually pretty straight forward but I will work on this today so I can send it out to you.
Thanks,
Mark
Posted by: SKL1 Dec 1 2017, 04:30 PM
Mark- you may want to post that here too. I need a refresher on bench bleeding it.
At least with the easy option I shouldn't have to take out the fuel tank!!
Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 1 2017, 05:20 PM
We didn't need to either.
Posted by: fixer34 Dec 4 2017, 09:26 PM
Yes, some instructions would help. Received mine today with the EZ install kit.
One of the threaded adapters was already installed (nearest the bellows); in a plastic bag there is a hose with plastic webbing on it and a screw clamp. In a smaller bag, another hose with 3 spring clamps and the second adapter. Curious why the second adapter is smaller than the first one.
Let us know what you designed to go where.
Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 5 2017, 01:41 AM
I've completed the instructions and forwarded to another member to review and add notes. I planned to get some feedback and modify to make a s clear as possible. I'll forward everyone a copy tomorrow.
mark
Posted by: JoeD Dec 5 2017, 06:59 AM
I've completed the instructions and forwarded to another member to review and add notes. I planned to get some feedback and modify to make a s clear as possible. I'll forward everyone a copy tomorrow.
mark
Mark, did not get a chance to install the MC this weekend. Hoping to get under the car today but it may be the weekend. Sorry for that.
Posted by: JoeD Dec 6 2017, 05:47 AM
Well, the easy option turned out not to be so easy for me, but not Mark's fault.
Got the old MC pulled and removed the reservoir clamp yesterday but ran into a snag. I'm pretty sure someone zip-tied the reservoir lines are together underneath the gas tank, likely just before they separate, connect to the flared tubes and pass through the grommets. Although I have plenty of slack under the reservoir, I can't pull even a half-inch of reservoir line free under the car- impossible to cut and attach the 2 pieces of hose to connect to the MC.
The lines were zip-tied together twice under the reservoir that I can see before they disappear under the tank; I can only assume more of the same under there and that's what's keeping me from being able to pull any line under the car to work with. The lines are definitely hung up on something, somewhere under the tank.
So... going to have to pull the tank anyway, and it certainly didn't save me any swearing. Again, not Mark's problem, but as usual with this car, any "easy" job QUICKLY turns into 
Posted by: drem914 Dec 19 2017, 11:32 AM
I've completed the instructions and forwarded to another member to review and add notes. I planned to get some feedback and modify to make a s clear as possible. I'll forward everyone a copy tomorrow.
mark
Mark, did not get a chance to install the MC this weekend. Hoping to get under the car today but it may be the weekend. Sorry for that.
So has there been a final write up done yet and sent out? Just want to make sure I don't mess up anything with the switch over to the new MC. And, since it's up in the air and have to bleed down everything I am installing a new complete set of PMB calipers all around.
Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 19 2017, 12:15 PM
We have the initial instructions that I've emailed to all that have purchased on Dec 5th. The initial feedback is that the initial set is pretty complete. Bleeding the master cylinder is still an issue. Mostly due to the nature of the layout. I have cautioned to not use power bleeders to bleed the system. This is primarily because I did not test the pressure at which the hoses will leak. The old hoses may not take the load. We have included clamps to help hold the lower section.
These install like the factory master cylinders, but the inlet ports can be mechanicaly secured.
Let me know if you can't find in your inbox.
Mark
Posted by: restore2seater Dec 19 2017, 11:56 PM
Mark,
This was in an email sent to me on Dec. 5th.
"We are compiling our instruction sheet for this part. It is a relatively straight forward process, The big issue was the insertion of the tubes with the rubber grommets. These are particularly troublesome. This kit allows for a much easier installation of the reservoir lines. You will still need to bleed the system and insure that the pedal pin is correctly inserted into the master cylinder.
If you have any tips or tricks you would like us to include we would look forward to your input.
Thanks again,
Mark Whitesell"
Haven't received any other email about instructions since then.
Posted by: Mikey914 Dec 20 2017, 01:19 AM
Just sent out. Check your email should be there.
Mark
Posted by: restore2seater Dec 20 2017, 09:29 AM
Got it. Pretty simple. Just wanted to make sure there wasn't something out of the ordinary I didn't know of. Customer service second to none.
Thanks Mark.
Posted by: 76-914 Dec 20 2017, 10:35 AM
Hey guys, if you haven't bench bled a master cylinder there are lots and lots of videos on youtube on how to bench bleed brake master cylinders.
Posted by: drem914 Dec 20 2017, 11:33 AM
Just sent out. Check your email should be there.
Mark
Got it. Thanks,
Posted by: Calwaterbear Jan 3 2018, 12:04 PM
Just sent out. Check your email should be there.
Mark
Got it. Thanks,
Mark,
Can i get a copy of the instructions, just now getting around to installing
thanks
Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 3 2018, 11:07 PM
Just sent out. Check your email should be there.
Mark
Got it. Thanks,
Mark,
Can i get a copy of the instructions, just now getting around to installing
thanks
Drop me your email. I can resend.
Mark
Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 3 2018, 08:38 PM
Has anybody installed the MC using the quick connect kit? Do you have to cut off the flares from the resevoir lines?
Posted by: PanelBilly Mar 3 2018, 08:48 PM
I bought one but it’s still in my sock drawer
Posted by: cuddyk Mar 3 2018, 09:39 PM
I just completed this install and made a how to video. As soon as power and WiFi is restored in my neighborhood I’ll upload. Crazy ass nor’easter yesterday in the NY burbs. They say our power will be out for “multiple days”
Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 3 2018, 09:54 PM
I just completed this install and made a how to video. As soon as power and WiFi is restored in my neighborhood I’ll upload. Crazy ass nor’easter yesterday in the NY burbs. They say our power will be out for “multiple days”
Did you cut off those flared ends?
Posted by: cuddyk Mar 3 2018, 10:27 PM
Yes. My tank and the steering rack are out so I had lots of room to work with, but it’s pretty straightforward. I released the clamps at the reservoir end so I could pull the supply lines down enough to easily cut right at the edge of the metal tubes. The short nipple on the Mc is to the back, and the worm clamp goes around the hose on that fitting, since it’s too close to the bulkhead to use a spring type clamp. The orange protective webbing goes on the rear hose as well. And you’ll need to trim both new hoses to fit, unless you can get them to pop up through the rubber grommets n the tank compartment floor.
Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 3 2018, 10:46 PM
Yes. My tank and the steering rack are out so I had lots of room to work with, but it’s pretty straightforward. I released the clamps at the reservoir end so I could pull the supply lines down enough to easily cut right at the edge of the metal tubes. The short nipple on the Mc is to the back, and the worm clamp goes around the hose on that fitting, since it’s too close to the bulkhead to use a spring type clamp. The orange protective webbing goes on the rear hose as well. And you’ll need to trim both new hoses to fit, unless you can get them to pop up through the rubber grommets n the tank compartment floor.
Thanks
Posted by: pete-stevers Mar 4 2018, 12:27 AM
I will be needing one of these as well!
Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 4 2018, 01:26 PM
Little late on the GB but these are in stock and ready to ship.
https://shop.914rubber.com/914-MM-master-Cylinder-NOT-URO-91130501200-91130501200.htm?categoryId=-1
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